transmission.............OT........Maxwells Smart...........
From : marsh monster
Q: =========== =========== terrific info if you own an old musclecar and want to install a 518 in it. but the original poster to which you promised info on a tsb had a 2002 dakota with a 45rfe trans. so you are full of shit as usual. -- max snip ============ ============ maxwell smartass f u l l o f s h i t ! ! ! ! that link is t h e b e s t technical info and printable link that the op of t h i s t h r e a d has gotten yet. and......damn sure better than what youve offered up so far. so....... go suck a monkeys ass. or.......give better advice. on second thought.......... forget the better advice....... just suck a monkeys ass. marsh .
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From : tom lawrence
you continue to dance around the question and refuse to answer. that speaks volumes. were done here... ive had enough of the merry-go-round. the last word is yours. you can either use that to finally explain yourself... or continue your pattern of self-indulgant rambling. the choice is yours though im pretty sure which direction youre going to choose. .
From : tom lawrence
guess hes running around limp. limp mode... on a 94 3spd... this should be good. please explain how this could happen. .
From : marsh monster
tom lawrence wrote guess hes running around limp. limp mode... on a 94 3spd... this should be good. please explain how this could happen. ======== ======== tom why would he be wanting to convert a 94 3spd. ...to...a 96 setup what happens on a 96 up when the puter sees a ratio prob marsh answering questions with questions .
From : tom lawrence
that link is t h e b e s t technical info and printable link that the op of t h i s t h r e a d has gotten yet. how the op has a 96 truck which was originally equipped with a 4spd transmission that he wants to put a 94 3spd transmission in. the link you provided is all about putting a 4spd trans into a vehicle that originally came with a 3spd non-lockup transmission. two completely different applications. in your link its all about providing electronic switching using mechanical inputs engine vacuum and oil pressure to a transmission thats expecting those signals. the op simply wanted to know how to convert one type of electronic switching to another 2-wire vs. 1-wire. he doesnt need to worry about the overdrive solenoid as the transmission he wants to use has no overdrive. he will have an unhappy pcm since he originally had a 4xre transmission and the new transmission will not have a governor pressure solenoid or sensor that the pcm will be looking for but that wont affect the operation of the transmission any. now... any other sage advice youd like to offer .
From : max dodge
too bad that link has info that is almost a decade old and has been posted at least once per question pertaining to its subject. meanwhile thet tsb you promised is...... mia got facts -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author =========== =========== terrific info if you own an old musclecar and want to install a 518 in it. but the original poster to which you promised info on a tsb had a 2002 dakota with a 45rfe trans. so you are full of shit as usual. -- max snip ============ ============ maxwell smartass f u l l o f s h i t ! ! ! ! that link is t h e b e s t technical info and printable link that the op of t h i s t h r e a d has gotten yet. and......damn sure better than what youve offered up so far. so....... go suck a monkeys ass. or.......give better advice. on second thought.......... forget the better advice....... just suck a monkeys ass. marsh .
From : marsh monster
======== ======== didnt think so. the rest of your inane babbling has been snipped. vacuum switch... for a vehicle thats got a perfectly good pcm to do the tcc switching... unreal. ======== ======== oh....... sorry....i thunked it was real. again sorry. marsh missed the reply in the thread where the op stated the convertor stalls were idenical...and wouldnt create a slip code in the pcm......now that tom... hes a gennyass for sure .
From : marsh monster
===== ===== too bad none of it has shown because mm isnt as smart as he thinks he is. -- max ======= ======= maxypad it has been shown. your jest not worthy...... or is it......smart enough to find it marsh is not only as smart as he thinks he is.......hes smarter than he suspects he is .
From : tom lawrence
now... any other sage advice youd like to offer no tom im guessn not. didnt think so. the rest of your inane babbling has been snipped. vacuum switch... for a vehicle thats got a perfectly good pcm to do the tcc switching... unreal... .
From : marsh monster
====== ====== tom lawrence wrote how the op has a 96 truck which was originally equipped with a 4spd transmission that he wants to put a 94 3spd transmission in. the link you provided is all about putting a 4spd trans into a vehicle that originally came with a 3spd non-lockup transmission. two completely different applications. in your link its all about providing electronic switching using mechanical inputs engine vacuum and oil pressure to a transmission thats expecting those signals. the op simply wanted to know how to convert one type of electronic switching to another 2-wire vs. 1-wire. he doesnt need to worry about the overdrive solenoid as the transmission he wants to use has no overdrive. he will have an unhappy pcm since he originally had a 4xre transmission and the new transmission will not have a governor pressure solenoid or sensor that the pcm will be looking for but that wont affect the operation of the transmission any. now... any other sage advice youd like to offer ========= ========= no tom im guessn not. if none of you goobers can surmise that the simplest solution to the ops concern is to use a simple vac switch wired to ground the circuit....... then im at a loss. i will even concede. i will humbly admit defeat. i will support the original suggested repair...........use a relay...... spend half the day mounting it wiring it into an ignition feed running wires down to the tranny and doing a couple of follow up posts to insure its being done correctly. all you guys are right. im wrong. i provided tooooo easy a solution. or perhaps....... it was that the easy solution was too difficult to locate in the link i provided yeah.... maybe thats it. maybe..... you guys are not capable of cross-application of repair techniques. maybe..... you goobers cant recognize extract and utilize a very commly used technique for enabling lock-up on mutated trannies when its given to you in a link that doesnt directly tell you that it can be used on other models. maybe..... you goobers need something simpler stated in terms that slap yer arses in the face like a brick.... maybe i jest should have said.......disregard the relay jest tie a vac switch into the ground circuit and be done with it because its the easiest way to do it. maybe.......i shoudve pissed off the dude that posted the relay suggestion by telling him that hes over fkn complicatn the whole damn process! but.....you guys know me......i try to be considerate polite professional and above all.....totally totally totally considerate of other posters suggestions and repair techniques. but then...... what wuddve been the fun of doing that wedve missed out on all this great bonding we got going on. oh yeah...... and about those two links that i emailed out.......... keep em confidential....... k marshmonster adds more sage to his stew........mmmm........needs more mushrooms .
From : max dodge
how the op has a 96 truck which was originally equipped with a 4spd transmission that he wants to put a 94 3spd transmission in. the link you provided is all about putting a 4spd trans into a vehicle that originally came with a 3spd non-lockup transmission. well there is that but the op im speaking of had a 2002 dakota with a 45rfe and wanted info on the upgraded towing flash tsb mm and the shift kits mm spoke of. too bad none of it has shown because mm isnt as smart as he thinks he is. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author that link is t h e b e s t technical info and printable link that the op of t h i s t h r e a d has gotten yet. how the op has a 96 truck which was originally equipped with a 4spd transmission that he wants to put a 94 3spd transmission in. the link you provided is all about putting a 4spd trans into a vehicle that originally came with a 3spd non-lockup transmission. two completely different applications. in your link its all about providing electronic switching using mechanical inputs engine vacuum and oil pressure to a transmission thats expecting those signals. the op simply wanted to know how to convert one type of electronic switching to another 2-wire vs. 1-wire. he doesnt need to worry about the overdrive solenoid as the transmission he wants to use has no overdrive. he will have an unhappy pcm since he originally had a 4xre transmission and the new transmission will not have a governor pressure solenoid or sensor that the pcm will be looking for but that wont affect the operation of the transmission any. now... any other sage advice youd like to offer .
From : marsh monster
marsh monster wrote ======== ======== didnt think so. the rest of your inane babbling has been snipped. vacuum switch... for a vehicle thats got a perfectly good pcm to do the tcc switching... unreal. ======== ======== oh....... sorry....i thunked it was real. again sorry. marsh missed the reply in the thread where the op stated the convertor stalls were idenical...and wouldnt create a slip code in the pcm......now that tom... hes a gennyass for sure ======== ======== so......wonder what happened when the op hooked that relay into a pcm thats programed for lockup od and gear ratios that arent available on his new unit.... guess hes running around limp. oo l o mm .
From : tom lawrence
if you will first explain what tranny the op originally had in the truck!!!!!!!! doesnt matter... if it makes you feel better its a 4xre dont know specifically - op never stated - but it doesnt matter because it was coming out and a non-electronic 3spd was going in there are 2 wire od units. yes there are... which matters 0% as the op was putting in a 3spd... you know... no od please advise me as to what the original tranny was in order for me to utilize my mod alldata atra trni atsg gears gee... for someone who does this all day every day for 20 years... you sure do like to read a bunch. experience to better relate to you the logic functions of a mopop pcm and how they pertain to detected ratio problems and their actions taken on rpm drop ....... i couldnt care less about the pcm - since no matter what it detects or what it tries to do its impossible for it to influence the operation of a 3-speed hydraulically-shifted mechanically-governed transmission. so - once again... how would it put the 94 3spd transmission in question into limp mode now... dance around it some more. .
From : marsh monster
tom lawrence wrote if you will first explain what tranny the op originally had in the truck!!!!!!!! doesnt matter... if it makes you feel better its a 4xre dont know specifically - op never stated - but it doesnt matter because it was coming out and a non-electronic 3spd was going in there are 2 wire od units. yes there are... which matters 0% as the op was putting in a 3spd... you know... no od please advise me as to what the original tranny was in order for me to utilize my mod alldata atra trni atsg gears gee... for someone who does this all day every day for 20 years... you sure do like to read a bunch. experience to better relate to you the logic functions of a mopop pcm and how they pertain to detected ratio problems and their actions taken on rpm drop ....... i couldnt care less about the pcm - since no matter what it detects or what it tries to do its impossible for it to influence the operation of a 3-speed hydraulically-shifted mechanically-governed transmission. so - once again... how would it put the 94 3spd transmission in question into limp mode now... dance around it some more. ========= ========= you told the dude to let his pcm controll the lockup. your advice.....not mine but you aint concerned with the pcm thats funny. marshmonster square dancer now take yer pardners by the hand......were swingn tom from man to man.... twist his arm now bow and wink......twirl him round and trip his feet.... .
From : tom lawrence
answering questions with questions stop ducking the question... id love to know how a 96 computer can put a 94 transmission into limp mode. come on... explain it step by step. pretend im an idiot should be easy for ya... .
From : marsh monster
tom lawrence wrote answering questions with questions stop ducking the question... id love to know how a 96 computer can put a 94 transmission into limp mode. come on... explain it step by step. pretend im an idiot should be easy for ya... ======= ======= tom will be very glad to....... if you will first explain what tranny the op originally had in the truck!!!!!!!! and...... how you know for sure which tranny he had....being as he never ever never ever........posted it. oh..... and jest to help you a little..... there are 2 wire od units. so..... please advise me as to what the original tranny was in order for me to utilize my mod alldata atra trni atsg gears and personal experience to better relate to you the logic functions of a mopop pcm and how they pertain to detected ratio problems and their actions taken on rpm drop ....... unless.... you started the thread..... and jest fergits to state that the unit wasnt an od. nah..... not you. ^ ^ * 0 l o marsh tom is a legend in his own mind .
From : marsh monster
tom lawrence wrote you continue to dance around the question and refuse to answer. that speaks volumes. were done here... ive had enough of the merry-go-round. the last word is yours. you can either use that to finally explain yourself... or continue your pattern of self-indulgant rambling. the choice is yours though im pretty sure which direction youre going to choose. ======= ======= what.. the mighty tomtom expects others to answer questions as to their logic... but refuses to support his own unfkn belie......... nah...... never mind..... i believe it. marshmonster 1..tomtom..0 .
From : max dodge
maxypad it has been shown. your jest not worthy...... or is it......smart enough to find it i dont need to find it. you claimed you had the goods but you dont. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author ===== ===== too bad none of it has shown because mm isnt as smart as he thinks he is. -- max ======= ======= maxypad it has been shown. your jest not worthy...... or is it......smart enough to find it marsh is not only as smart as he thinks he is.......hes smarter than he suspects he is .
From : marsh monster
.. .. a discussion in progress ====== ====== if you will first explain what tranny the op originally had in the truck!!!!!!!! ................. tom lawrence wrote doesnt matter... if it makes you feel better its a 4xre dont know specifically - op never stated - but it doesnt matter because it was coming out and a non-electronic 3spd was going in ...................... marshmonster wrote there are 2 wire od units. ....................... tom lawrence wrote yes there are... which matters 0% as the op was putting in a 3spd... you know... no od =============== =============== tomtom if the 3 spd. was non-electronic.....why did you post an electronic device for controlling lock-up.......and then state...that the pcm could provide the ground oh........and if the unit taken out was an re unit.....then it does matter. you do know what the re stands for dont you want me to tell you or..... you just want me to let you post a payment to my pay-pal account and ill give you reeeeelly good computer controlled logic seminar oh...... youve got google so you can find it for free okay. marsh grabs his homegrown......his 1.25s....and twists one up .