thanks, jackass
From : nathan w collier
Q: im going to chime in with my personal opinion just so long as you recognize that its just an opinion and not the gospel truth. i think your list should read as follows based on what experience i have with my own trucks trucks at work and friends trucks. for diesel pick-ups with 150k+ miles/7-10 yrs old dodge i-6 5.9l cummins turbo diesel intercooled direct injection best motor best mileage poor automatic transmission good manual tranny. ford v-8 7.3l powerstroke turbo diesel intercooled direct injection ok motor worst mileage poor automatic tranny unk manual tranny. chevy v-8 6.5l turbo diesel non-intercooled indirect injection motor ok but not powerful better after 97 middle of the road mileage best auto tranny unk manual tranny. my friend still gets 23-24mpg on his 1989 dodge with a manual tranny. i used to get 20 mpg on my 95 chevy 6.5l turbo diesel with the automatic and trucks at work when we used to use fords got 13-14mpg at best with the automatic tranny. i hated the ford e4od automatic transmissions and i heard the dodge automatics werent much better. funny how all the folks i know with dodge trucks of that generation all had sticks - something to do with the automatic not being able to handle the torque of the cummins 5.9l motor. chevy always had the best trannys but the 6.5l wasnt the motor you wanted if you wanted to pull plus you had to really want to learn about them to keep it running reliably the fuel solenoid driver was issue #1. my preference based on the criteria you list would be one i didnt even list - a 3-4 year old chevy or gmc 3/4-ton with the duramax 6.6l turbo diesel and the allison 1000 tranny i have a 2004. good mileage 20-21 good reliabilty and a great transmission. just make sure it has a 3.731 rear axle for the highway. my two cents worth - jonathan i searched these forums and cant find a decent thread talking about fuel mileage and reliability. i want to buy a used150000miles or sodiesel pickup mainly because ive always wanted one and secondly for the fuel mileage and engine life span. i wont be pulling a trailer nor carry abnormally large loads. i am a sales rep who is going to be driving a lot more. i am a big ford fan but i need a long lasting good fuel mileage vehicle regardless of the brand. i hope i can get an objective opinion from you guys. here is what ive come up with so far dodge worst mileage best overall engine reliability. ford better mileage not as good reliability. chevy/gmc best mileage worst reliability. these results are based on what ive read concerning 1983 and up vehicles. keep in mind im using brand generalities not engine specifics. im coming here to get opinions from you as to specific engine axle combinations and brands for my needs. please dont start arguments with each other im looking for all opinions and discussions. ford is my preference but if chevy is better for me then chevy it is or dodge. all discussions are welcome if two points are made your opinion of best mileage reliability and best fuel economy. keep in mind diesel info only. thanks clay ps. if you know of a site which covers this in detail i apologize in advance and ask that you point me to it! also i have posted this on other sites as well. -- there are 10 kinds of people in the world those who understand binary and those who dont. .
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From : inet uh
on mon 18 apr 2005 001136 gmt nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote hansome wrote im sorry to just barge in as a newbie to this group but i own a 2001 dakota r/t and as long as ive owned it ive never tried to figure out my mileage or tried to tune some performance out of it until i dropped my k&n air filter into it. wow! im never going back to paper filters ever again! airaid offers a similar filter with a longer lifespan for some reason. i still couldnt care less what the mileage is but now im goin for a throttle body spacer cat-back exhaust and im gonna find how to pimp my puter. picked out the 20s id like it to roll on too! good luck on finding your stats though. zoom! zoom! i hope you enjoy your k&n filter. many here have entered heated debates over the question of reduced engine life and performance gains. its up to you to decide if the k&n is right for you. here we go again! yep. game on! i agree with you though up to each individual to spend their money the way they want. for me it wouldnt be k&n but then i would probably just spend it on something that someone else would think was stupid. kind of the balance of things i guess. come on and fess up so we can really know how stupid you are.. vbg myself i want a 4 model 500 or maybe a kimber. now if i really wanted to get serious.. armalite .50 bmg denny .
From : webmaster carolinabreezehvac com
lol here comes the bs fuzzy math again. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving as a starting point 3% / 2 % = 150% im sorry to just barge in as a newbie to this group but i own a 2001 dakota r/t and as long as ive owned it ive never tried to figure out my mileage or tried to tune some performance out of it until i dropped my k&n air filter into it. wow! im never going back to paper filters ever again! airaid offers a similar filter with a longer lifespan for some reason. i still couldnt care less what the mileage is but now im goin for a throttle body spacer cat-back exhaust and im gonna find how to pimp my puter. picked out the 20s id like it to roll on too! good luck on finding your stats though. zoom! zoom! an open question -- replies invited. if one wanted to determine how improved breathing would be reflected in their vehicles performance and fuel mileage couldnt it be determined by simply removing the existing air filter for the time required to use up one tank of gasoline. then check the mileage put the existing filter back in or go to the auto parts store and buy a k&n filter. oldtimer .
From : nathan w collier
steve@carolinabreezehvac.com webmaster@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in never got your mail btw.. i sure sent it. which account should i resend to -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com this one listed above.. .
From : nathan w collier
isnt that pretty much stick it outside and knock the frost off when youre ready to use it heh.....sometimes i think that would work just as well. -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .
From : nathan w collier
steve@carolinabreezehvac.com webmaster@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in never got your mail btw.. i sure sent it. which account should i resend to -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .
From : tom lawrence
yup ill have to start sending pictures and details soon. -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .
From : webmaster carolinabreezehvac com
im launching a commercial refrigeration business here in billings isnt that pretty much stick it outside and knock the frost off when youre ready to use it .
From : transurgeonnathan w collier
yup g so e-mail me already and tell me when the h*ll you finally got to billings wow......weve got some catching up to do. are you on broadband -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .
From : transurgeon
as a starting point 3% / 2 % = 150% im sorry to just barge in as a newbie to this group but i own a 2001 dakota r/t and as long as ive owned it ive never tried to figure out my mileage or tried to tune some performance out of it until i dropped my k&n air filter into it. wow! im never going back to paper filters ever again! airaid offers a similar filter with a longer lifespan for some reason. i still couldnt care less what the mileage is but now im goin for a throttle body spacer cat-back exhaust and im gonna find how to pimp my puter. picked out the 20s id like it to roll on too! good luck on finding your stats though. zoom! zoom! an open question -- replies invited. if one wanted to determine how improved breathing would be reflected in their vehicles performance and fuel mileage couldnt it be determined by simply removing the existing air filter for the time required to use up one tank of gasoline. then check the mileage put the existing filter back in or go to the auto parts store and buy a k&n filter. oldtimer .
From : nosey
im sorry to just barge in as a newbie to this group but i own a 2001 dakota r/t and as long as ive owned it ive never tried to figure out my mileage or tried to tune some performance out of it until i dropped my k&n air filter into it. wow! im never going back to paper filters ever again! airaid offers a similar filter with a longer lifespan for some reason. i still couldnt care less what the mileage is but now im goin for a throttle body spacer cat-back exhaust and im gonna find how to pimp my puter. picked out the 20s id like it to roll on too! good luck on finding your stats though. zoom! zoom! an open question -- replies invited. if one wanted to determine how improved breathing would be reflected in their vehicles performance and fuel mileage couldnt it be determined by simply removing the existing air filter for the time required to use up one tank of gasoline. then check the mileage put the existing filter back in or go to the auto parts store and buy a k&n filter. oldtimer .
From : nathan w collier
i guess i should clarify too. i need to buy an older truck because of price. 130-160000 miles or so. clay just for a clarification the new ford powerstroke is a v-8 6.0l not 6.6l turbo diesel with direct injection and an intercooler. the new tranny is also a 5-speed similar to the allison but allison is the king of the hill. the older 7.3l motors had only 2 valves per cylinder which is one reason why they werent that efficient. the new 6.0s use aluminum in their construction similar to the duramax and use a variable vane turbo. chevy/gmc uses the isuzu-designed duramax v-8 6.6l turbo diesel with direct injection pilot injection and an intercooler. the current allison tranny is a 5-speed with a 6-speed automatic with selectable fully automatic or manual shifting in 2006. this is currently the largest motor of the big three. the latest version lby uses a variable orifice turbocharger. ive heard rumors that current 5-speed allisons are upgradeable to 6-speeds with only a computer update although they wont have the selectable automatic/manual shifting 6th gear being a double-overdrive. all three manufacturers currently use 4-valves per cylinder although most were typically 2 valves per cylinder in the older models. dodge made the switch to 4-valves first but although i have no concrete figures to go by i can remember reading several folks writing that their mileage was pretty poor for the first generation of 24-valve motors in comparison to the older 12-valve versions. i dont really know why. cheers - jonathan i searched these forums and cant find a decent thread talking about fuel mileage and reliability. i want to buy a used150000miles or sodiesel pickup mainly because ive always wanted one and secondly for the fuel mileage and engine life span. i wont be pulling a trailer nor carry abnormally large loads. i am a sales rep who is going to be driving a lot more. i am a big ford fan but i need a long lasting good fuel mileage vehicle regardless of the brand. i hope i can get an objective opinion from you guys. here is what ive come up with so far dodge worst mileage best overall engine reliability. ford better mileage not as good reliability. chevy/gmc best mileage worst reliability. these results are based on what ive read concerning 1983 and up vehicles. keep in mind im using brand generalities not engine specifics. im coming here to get opinions from you as to specific engine axle combinations and brands for my needs. please dont start arguments with each other im looking for all opinions and discussions. ford is my preference but if chevy is better for me then chevy it is or dodge. all discussions are welcome if two points are made your opinion of best mileage reliability and best fuel economy. keep in mind diesel info only. thanks clay ps. if you know of a site which covers this in detail i apologize in advance and ask that you point me to it! also i have posted this on other sites as well. there are 10 kinds of people in the world those who understand binary and those who dont. what year range are you looking for what about price range i have seen reports of gues with the old 12v and 24v pre1991-1998 range cummins diesel trucks getting 20+ mpg. a friend of mine had a 99 ford excursion 4x4 diesel he got about 16 mpg. with the new cummins 600 many have said the fuel economy has gone down mainly due to such high power output if your not pulling anything and if you dont care about the noise then then the 12v or older 24v would be great if the trans will keep up as for chevy a lot of guy i have talked to said dont get a pre-duramax. the duramax was built in collaboration with isuzu whom have been making diesels for many years so the engine is pretty solid even with aluminum heads and then the alison trans is pretty much the way to go when it comes to transmissions. i think the duramax gets around 15-16 as well. i have heard a lot of mixed reviews about the new ford 6.6 liter diesel. their old 7.4 was a pretty solid machine as i recal. just not the most fuel friendly since its a 7.4 where the duramax is 6.6 and the cummins is 5.9. so just in those terms the cummins has less displacement and does not consume as much fuel at any given rpm if all three engines were mapped to use the same amount of fuel per liter what speed will you be traveling at most 5mph 30 60 85 if your sitting in slow traffic i would think the cummins would be better since it would be in a lower gear at a lower rpm. but if your traveling at 60-80 chevy has a five speed trans where dodge has four. so the dodge my run at a higher rpm at freeway speeds. the two trucks may be geared differently to accomodate the difference in transmissions though. if your doing a lot of empty driving i would go with a 3.55 or higher rear end. btw i am 01 few that do understand binary. .
From : nathan w collier
is that the reason you knocked the price down ;^ heh. nah i priced it down hoping to sell it. it really is a great truck and if it were a long bed i would keep it because its the most solid used truck ive ever owned. mechanically its 100% and asthetically it doesnt miss that by much. ill never find another used truck in this shape for this price i know but i gotta have a long bed. im launching a commercial refrigeration business here in billings sorta bare but see http//totaltechservices.net and was going to get a 4x4 van but even a van isnt big enough for what ill be needing. ive just ordered a 7x18 haulmark kodiak http//www.haulmark.com/php/products/submodel.view.phpsubmodelid=70117 ordered instead of buying because i want surge brakes and the 10000# gvwr - see invoice http//img185.echo.cx/img185/3082/trailer7rj.jpg and would really prefer a long bed both for pulling it and for more cargo room in the bed. the wifey is wanting a new jeep commander 7 passenger jeep the ugly black thing on http//jeep.com when they come out so ill probably take the 04.5 cummins back over and use it to pull the trailer. btw have you seen this http//dieselpowermag.com//0505dpmjeep02/ yeah that gladiator looks like it would be a big hit if they release it. -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .
From : inet uh
knowing that was where it was wouldnt you first be sure the engine had cooled down sadly you cant check your refrigerant pressures unless the engine is running. -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .