smokin'
From : montanajeeper
Q: on acceleration when pulling a load or otherwise driving with a heavy foot my powerstroke blows out deep black smoke the result of the chip giving it more fuel. at 600 ft. pounds my cummins wont smoke but ive seen diesels that will smoke at just over 500 ft. pounds. now i know it might not be popular amongst the enviro-whackos but im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. thanks .
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From : jacob suter
montanajeeper wrote on acceleration when pulling a load or otherwise driving with a heavy foot my powerstroke blows out deep black smoke the result of the chip giving it more fuel. at 600 ft. pounds my cummins wont smoke but ive seen diesels that will smoke at just over 500 ft. pounds. now i know it might not be popular amongst the enviro-whackos but im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. thanks im not sure of any method except dumping more diesel into the cylinders or intake and breaking something when you suddenly produce an ungodly amount of power or lowering turbo boost. some sort of override on the wastegate forcing it open would drop your boost but im sure the computer would promptly freak out and lower fuel delivery or something equally uncool. oh and fuck the unclued enviroweenies. that black smoke is mostly carbon carbon is not a pollutant. js .
From : ninebal310
from jacob suter oh and fuck the unclued enviroweenies. that black smoke is mostly carbon carbon is not a pollutant. js lol.......i think you better go check that statement. hank .
From : tbone
i guess that im a little lost with this one. that black smoke indicates that the engine is getting more fuel than it can burn and not running efficiently under the current conditions so why would you want to make that happen -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on acceleration when pulling a load or otherwise driving with a heavy foot my powerstroke blows out deep black smoke the result of the chip giving it more fuel. at 600 ft. pounds my cummins wont smoke but ive seen diesels that will smoke at just over 500 ft. pounds. now i know it might not be popular amongst the enviro-whackos but im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. thanks .
From : tbone
montanajeeper wrote on acceleration when pulling a load or otherwise driving with a heavy foot my powerstroke blows out deep black smoke the result of the chip giving it more fuel. at 600 ft. pounds my cummins wont smoke but ive seen diesels that will smoke at just over 500 ft. pounds. now i know it might not be popular amongst the enviro-whackos but im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. thanks im not sure of any method except dumping more diesel into the cylinders or intake and breaking something when you suddenly produce an ungodly amount of power or lowering turbo boost. some sort of override on the wastegate forcing it open would drop your boost but im sure the computer would promptly freak out and lower fuel delivery or something equally uncool. oh and fuck the unclued enviroweenies. that black smoke is mostly carbon carbon is not a pollutant. sorry jacob but you are full of shit. that black smoke is much more than carbon or it would not smell like diesel fuel it would have no smell at all. it is more like partially and unburned fuel and is chock full of pollutants. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : montanajeeper
according to http//dieselforum.com modern diesel engines produce less pollutants than modern gasoline engines. i dont know if this includes smoking like i want it to or not. .
From : transurgeon
just curious as a future diesel owner with little or no experience.. why would you want it to smoke its a nc native thing................. .
From : jacob suter
ninebal310 wrote from jacob suter oh and fuck the unclued enviroweenies. that black smoke is mostly carbon carbon is not a pollutant. js lol.......i think you better go check that statement. then what is the solid particulate that fires out the exhaust js .
From : ninebal310
from jacob suter then what is the solid particulate that fires out the exhaust js ok it is a form of carbon. a form of carbon that is laced with carcinogens. i wouldnt want it in my lungs. would you dont take me the wrong way i am no clean air freak. but it isnt as harmless as you want it to be. hank .
From : shackleton
tbone wrote i guess that im a little lost with this one. that black smoke indicates that the engine is getting more fuel than it can burn and not running efficiently under the current conditions so why would you want to make that happen cause he thinks it looks cool and he likes putting shit in peoples lungs that he doesnt even know even if they didnt piss him off. nice mother-fucker aint he .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from jacob suter jsuter@intrastar.net or lowering turbo boost. i dont want to hinder performance any i just want to get more out of my cummins. not that i need it just that i know its there so i want it. ......that and i just like that black smoke that says kick ass!. - im thinking that since the cummins is already kicking 600ft. pounds that removing the cat will do what i want but id like to confirm this first if possible. there is a chip with programmer that with no other mods required takes it to 950 ft. pounds. if the existing injectors are capable of providing that much fuel im sure they can do what i want to do. i just want to accomplish it without voiding my warranty. .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com not running efficiently under the current conditions so why would you want to make that happen i suppose it could be several different reasons. i could be fogging for mosquitos but we dont have any here. i could be reaffirming my masculinity but i dont seem to be running short on security.....i guess its for the same reason i want flowmasers or straight pipes on a built 440. its a man thing......with an oil burner twist. - .
From : denny
subject re smokin from tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com not running efficiently under the current conditions so why would you want to make that happen i suppose it could be several different reasons. i could be fogging for mosquitos but we dont have any here. how about the black flies i could be reaffirming my masculinity but i dont seem to be running short on security... i aint gonna touch that one! ...i guess its for the same reason i want flowmasers or straight pipes on a built 440. its a man thing......with an oil burner twist. - now that one i could relate to. kinda like who has the biggest gun or whos garden tractor can pull the farthest... denny .
From : mac davis
on 31 jul 2004 071049 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote on acceleration when pulling a load or otherwise driving with a heavy foot my powerstroke blows out deep black smoke the result of the chip giving it more fuel. at 600 ft. pounds my cummins wont smoke but ive seen diesels that will smoke at just over 500 ft. pounds. now i know it might not be popular amongst the enviro-whackos but im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. thanks thats cuz the ford has a powersmoke nate.. just curious as a future diesel owner with little or no experience.. why would you want it to smoke to indicate more fuel being dumped or what mac .
From : tom lawrence
the enviro-whackos but im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. not easily nate. the 600s have a faster-spooling turbo which gets the boost up there quickly hence no smoke. remember that the whole goal in designing this particular engine was to meet the 50-state emissions requirements. thats why the engine runs hotter than the 555ft.lb. version and thats partly due to the cat. pulling the cat wont hurt the engine warranty but anything you do to increase the rate of fuel delivery could have negative effects on your warranty. now you and i both know these engines are de-tuned significantly from what theyre capable of producing and increasing the output within sane limits wont have much of an effect on the engines reliability it may take the overhaul numbers from 350k down to 250k - big deal but from a warranty standpoint cummins gets real pissy when they see the fuel curves altered. read the sticker on the side of the valve cover best advice drive it stock for a while let the newness of it wear off and when it does lets start thinking of 500-600 horses at the wheels .
From : yofuri
unburned diesel makes white smoke. fully burned diesel makes carbon which is invisible until the concentration of carbon reaches a point where visible opacity begins. http//www.stateside.com/intelligence/samples/diesalfuel.shtml rick i guess that im a little lost with this one. that black smoke indicates that the engine is getting more fuel than it can burn and not running efficiently under the current conditions so why would you want to make that happen -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on acceleration when pulling a load or otherwise driving with a heavy foot my powerstroke blows out deep black smoke the result of the chip giving it more fuel. at 600 ft. pounds my cummins wont smoke but ive seen diesels that will smoke at just over 500 ft. pounds. now i know it might not be popular amongst the enviro-whackos but im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. thanks .
From : transurgeon
from jacob suter then what is the solid particulate that fires out the exhaust js ok it is a form of carbon. a form of carbon that is laced with carcinogens. i wouldnt want it in my lungs. would you which carcinogens specifically dont take me the wrong way i am no clean air freak. but it isnt as harmless as you want it to be. its carbon excess fuel in a diesel produces co2 + h2o plus carbon from unburnt fuel hank .
From : transurgeon
it begins to be visible when there is no longer enough o2 in the air charge to combine with all the carbon atoms to produce co2 unburned diesel makes white smoke. fully burned diesel makes carbon which is invisible until the concentration of carbon reaches a point where visible opacity begins. http//www.stateside.com/intelligence/samples/diesalfuel.shtml rick i guess that im a little lost with this one. that black smoke indicates that the engine is getting more fuel than it can burn and not running efficiently under the current conditions so why would you want to make that happen -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on acceleration when pulling a load or otherwise driving with a heavy foot my powerstroke blows out deep black smoke the result of the chip giving it more fuel. at 600 ft. pounds my cummins wont smoke but ive seen diesels that will smoke at just over 500 ft. pounds. now i know it might not be popular amongst the enviro-whackos but im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. thanks .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from montanajeeper@aol.com are you making this up as you go or are you the victim of bad information sorry i really wasnt trying to be as rude as that sounded. i do hate to see bad information but wasnt trying to be an ass about it. .
From : transurgeon
subject re smokin from transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom its a nc native thing................. heh.....to the contrary. ive never seen so many diesels smoking like out here. not the fact that theyre smoking.............the fact that you want yours to do it to....................... .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from denny wddodge@woh.rr.com kinda like who has the biggest gun or whos garden tractor can pull the farthest... .....precisely. .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom its a nc native thing................. heh.....to the contrary. ive never seen so many diesels smoking like out here. .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from ninebal310@aol.committed a form of carbon that is laced with carcinogens are you making this up as you go or are you the victim of bad information please read http//dieselforum.com for truth in modern diesel technology. .
From : montanajeeper
why would you want it to smoke if a diesel doesnt blow black smoke then its potential has been harnessed. although this is somewhat of an over-simplification typically airflow limits power on a gasoline engine. with a diesel its the fuel delivery that is the limiting factor. if you can dump the fuel to it the diesel can provide the air within reasonable limits. black smoke is the sign of a diesel engine performing to its potential. the more smoke the more efficiently the engine is running in terms of power potential. .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from tom lawrence the 600s have a faster-spooling turbo which gets the boost up there quickly agreed and one of the first things i noticed about this truck. im looking forward to a boost gauge. pulling the cat wont hurt the engine warranty will it aid in producing smoke you and i both know these engines are de-tuned significantly from what theyre capable of producing agreed. i looked at a programmable chip that with no other mods creates 950 ft. lbs. best advice drive it stock for a while let the newness of it wear off and when it does lets start thinking of 500-600 horses at the wheels finally.....a man who understands! - btw check out this run. http//tinyurl.com/4gc79 .
From : greg surratt
on 01 aug 2004 063049 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote why would you want it to smoke if a diesel doesnt blow black smoke then its potential has been harnessed. although this is somewhat of an over-simplification typically airflow limits power on a gasoline engine. with a diesel its the fuel delivery that is the limiting factor. if you can dump the fuel to it the diesel can provide the air within reasonable limits. black smoke is the sign of a diesel engine performing to its potential. the more smoke the more efficiently the engine is running in terms of power potential. ;- i guess that makes sense. you need more power to go faster so you can stay out of the way of the guy behind you who cant see the backend of your truck through the clouds of black smoke or you get better mileage the more smoke you pump out something wrong with that theory in todays world of green machines. .
From : ninebal310
from montanajeeper@aol.com are you making this up as you go or are you the victim of bad information please read http//dieselforum.com for truth in modern diesel technology. i must be taking you out of context. i thought you were under the impression that diesel exhaust is harmless. if you think it is harmless and only produces co2 + h2o keep it running in your closed garage and sit there with it. it produces co not co2 which causes the deaths of many people in the u.s. each year. co2 is carbon dioxide co is carbon monoxide. there are other lethal gases that are produced by un-burnt/burnt all fuels. in closing to keep from starting some flame war pun intended i will let you have the last say in this matter. hank .
From : mac davis
on 01 aug 2004 063049 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote why would you want it to smoke if a diesel doesnt blow black smoke then its potential has been harnessed. although this is somewhat of an over-simplification typically airflow limits power on a gasoline engine. with a diesel its the fuel delivery that is the limiting factor. if you can dump the fuel to it the diesel can provide the air within reasonable limits. black smoke is the sign of a diesel engine performing to its potential. the more smoke the more efficiently the engine is running in terms of power potential. i guess i have a lot to learn about diesels! logic derived from gassers says that smoke would be blowby or rich mixture throwing unburned gas out the pipes! mac .
From : yofuri
heres a better explanation of the logic http//www.diesel-central.com//cackle.htm rick on 01 aug 2004 063049 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote why would you want it to smoke if a diesel doesnt blow black smoke then its potential has been harnessed. although this is somewhat of an over-simplification typically airflow limits power on a gasoline engine. with a diesel its the fuel delivery that is the limiting factor. if you can dump the fuel to it the diesel can provide the air within reasonable limits. black smoke is the sign of a diesel engine performing to its potential. the more smoke the more efficiently the engine is running in terms of power potential. i guess i have a lot to learn about diesels! logic derived from gassers says that smoke would be blowby or rich mixture throwing unburned gas out the pipes! mac .
From : tom lawrence
agreed. i looked at a programmable chip that with no other mods creates 950 ft. lbs. which one im running a tst powermax stacked with an edge ez making 500hp and about 1100ft.lbs. this is estimated - couldnt get an accurate torque reading on the dyno. and yes - it smokes like a tire factory on fire but only when i get on it hard and then only until the boost comes up only running 40psi at the moment. btw check out this run. http//tinyurl.com/4gc79 yep - thats richard mad dog madson. he runs a ford f-350 4x4 with a 12v cummins and an e4od trans! heavily worked over by piers diesel research. last i knew he was over the 800hp mark and just recently ran an 11.07/124mph and all on #2 diesel only. pretty damn impressive for an engine that used to come from the factory making 160hp. .
From : tbone
and as the article that you so kindly posted says for a number of reasons most diesel engines will emit visible hydrocarbons i.e. smoke if run near or over their stoichiometric fuel ratio. diesel engines thus always need to be run lean of stoichiometric. this indicates outright says that making his diesel smoke is not a good thing and will result in a less than optimum condition. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving heres a better explanation of the logic http//www.diesel-central.com//cackle.htm rick on 01 aug 2004 063049 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote why would you want it to smoke if a diesel doesnt blow black smoke then its potential has been harnessed. although this is somewhat of an over-simplification typically airflow limits power on a gasoline engine. with a diesel its the fuel delivery that is the limiting factor. if you can dump the fuel to it the diesel can provide the air within reasonable limits. black smoke is the sign of a diesel engine performing to its potential. the more smoke the more efficiently the engine is running in terms of power potential. i guess i have a lot to learn about diesels! logic derived from gassers says that smoke would be blowby or rich mixture throwing unburned gas out the pipes! mac .
From : greg surratt
on sun 1 aug 2004 093245 -0700 yofuri yofuri@oakharbor.net wrote heres a better explanation of the logic http//www.diesel-central.com//cackle.htm rick neat page rick. looks to me like the best efficiency would be at that fine line just as you start to blow stuff out the exhaust greg .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from theguy theguy@myplace.com screw optimum condition. i just really enjoy this thing and making it smoke and go fast is part of the fun. i think i love you. - it amazes me how quick this beast will accelerate. that its doing it with only 5.9 liters is even more amazing. its quite easy to forget im in a vehicle weighing over 4 tons. .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from tom lawrence which one im not sure the local diesel shop owner showed it to me and told me he could install it turn key for $850. im running a tst powermax stacked with an edge ez making 500hp and about 1100ft.lbs. sweet! got links .
From : transurgeon
and as the article that you so kindly posted says for a number of reasons most diesel engines will emit visible hydrocarbons i.e. smoke if run near or over their stoichiometric fuel ratio. diesel engines thus always need to be run lean of stoichiometric. this indicates outright says that making his diesel smoke is not a good thing and will result in a less than optimum condition. i read it as saying that the fact it is smoking is because it is over stoichiometric ratio. nothing more..................... true it may not be optimum but other than using excess fuel not harmful to the engine. .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from greg surratt glsurratt@verizon.net so you can stay out of the way of the guy behind you who cant see the backend of your truck through the clouds of black smoke the biggest benefit to the additional power is being able to tow 10000 pounds up and down these rocky mountains with authority. the speed and cool factor are just nice bonuses. .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from ninebal310@aol.committed ninebal310 i thought you were under the impression that diesel exhaust is harmless. diesel smoke is less polluting than gasoline emmissions. keep it running in your closed garage and sit there cmon now....death would be due to oxygen deprivation and not carcenogic lethal diesel gases. - .
From : theguy
on sun 01 aug 2004 172653 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote and as the article that you so kindly posted says for a number of reasons most diesel engines will emit visible hydrocarbons i.e. smoke if run near or over their stoichiometric fuel ratio. diesel engines thus always need to be run lean of stoichiometric. this indicates outright says that making his diesel smoke is not a good thing and will result in a less than optimum condition. screw optimum condition. i just really enjoy this thing and making it smoke and go fast is part of the fun. one down side to the auto however is that before you go too far on the mods you should upgrade the tranny. there has been a lot of info about this and i dont remember what the ratings were for the stock tranny right now. ive looked into the dtt tranny and think that i will go that direction once i have the extra $ to do it. my neighbor sells one of the chips dont recall which one but his truck is a dually and it is very fast but then he has a 6 speed. he suggested some tranny work too before the chip. .
From : tbone
well gary did you miss the part where he specifically said diesel engines thus always need to be run lean of stoichiometric.. running it rich does nothing besides cause cylinder washdown and air pollution and that smoke and smell is one of the primary reasons why diesels are just not all that popular in the us. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and as the article that you so kindly posted says for a number of reasons most diesel engines will emit visible hydrocarbons i.e. smoke if run near or over their stoichiometric fuel ratio. diesel engines thus always need to be run lean of stoichiometric. this indicates outright says that making his diesel smoke is not a good thing and will result in a less than optimum condition. i read it as saying that the fact it is smoking is because it is over stoichiometric ratio. nothing more..................... true it may not be optimum but other than using excess fuel not harmful to the engine. .
From : transurgeon
no i didnt miss it it is his view nothing more on how to eliminate exhaust smoke run it lean enough that there is always excess oxygen to combine with the carbon. if someone wants exhaust smoke and is willing to accept the consequences its their $$$ to spend on whatever chip it takes plus the extra fuel cost. as far as the air pollution that is btween the owner and whatever local agency he has to live with; any modern-design diesel will not smoke under normal usage. personally i wouldnt own a diesel that smokes the shop takes 3-4 days to air out after weve had a deisel in here but some folks view the smoke as an indication that the truck is putting out max power so much phlogiston but you cant tell em that. well gary did you miss the part where he specifically said diesel engines thus always need to be run lean of stoichiometric.. running it rich does nothing besides cause cylinder washdown and air pollution and that smoke and smell is one of the primary reasons why diesels are just not all that popular in the us. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and as the article that you so kindly posted says for a number of reasons most diesel engines will emit visible hydrocarbons i.e. smoke if run near or over their stoichiometric fuel ratio. diesel engines thus always need to be run lean of stoichiometric. this indicates outright says that making his diesel smoke is not a good thing and will result in a less than optimum condition. i read it as saying that the fact it is smoking is because it is over stoichiometric ratio. nothing more..................... true it may not be optimum but other than using excess fuel not harmful to the engine. .
From : paul johnson
on sun 01 aug 2004 172653 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote screw optimum condition. i just really enjoy this thing and making it smoke and go fast is part of the fun. ... while i cant imagine wanting to roll smoke if you have to how about putting upright stacks like the big guys so you arent blowing it right in my fresh air intake several months ago on this group there was a link to a video clip showing a earlier dodge cummins in a drag race turning something like 12.54. he had dual stacks and was truly rolling black smoke i checked the link and it is no longer up. paul johnson .
From : yofuri
i think it may be somewhat before the smoke point. as the powder charge in a gun is most efficient when the energy is dissipated at or slightly before the end of the barrel i think the fuel combustion might be most efficient at a point before carbon in the exhaust reaches the point of visibility. thats a guess though. i have no credentials in that area. rick on sun 1 aug 2004 093245 -0700 yofuri yofuri@oakharbor.net wrote heres a better explanation of the logic http//www.diesel-central.com//cackle.htm rick neat page rick. looks to me like the best efficiency would be at that fine line just as you start to blow stuff out the exhaust greg .
From : shackleton
montanajeeper wrote he likes putting shit in peoples lungs that he doesnt even know even if they didnt piss him off. nice mother-fucker aint he ....and i didnt think anybody would understand. - alright you passed. montana must be doing you good. .
From : tbone
but you said that your not going to tow with it so what is your point. and btw few people think that belching smoke is cool. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving subject re smokin from greg surratt glsurratt@verizon.net so you can stay out of the way of the guy behind you who cant see the backend of your truck through the clouds of black smoke the biggest benefit to the additional power is being able to tow 10000 pounds up and down these rocky mountains with authority. the speed and cool factor are just nice bonuses. .
From : tom lawrence
im running a tst powermax stacked with an edge ez making 500hp and about 1100ft.lbs. sweet! got links http//www.tstproducts.com this is an in-cab adjustable timing/duration box meaning that it advances the injector timing and increases its pulse width to get more fuel. its got two different fuel curves one covering the lower rpm range the other covering the higher rpm range so its pretty adjustable. http//www.edgeproductsinc.com the edge ez is currently in or just out of beta testing for the 600 engine. its a fuel pressure box. by increasing the pressure in the fuel rail more fuel gets delivered per injection event. the 600 version has 3 settings and is also in-cab adjustable. and now... a word of warning several actually. the combination of these boxes or even just the tst alone will kill your truck in short order if youre not careful. your transmission in stock form will only hold about 400hp. your turbo will hold to about as much if not a little less. be smart about any power upgrades and make sure youre upgrading your other components along with the engine - if you choose to go that route. .
From : theguy
on mon 02 aug 2004 133600 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote im running a tst powermax stacked with an edge ez making 500hp and about 1100ft.lbs. sweet! got links http//www.tstproducts.com this is an in-cab adjustable timing/duration box meaning that it advances the injector timing and increases its pulse width to get more fuel. its got two different fuel curves one covering the lower rpm range the other covering the higher rpm range so its pretty adjustable. http//www.edgeproductsinc.com the edge ez is currently in or just out of beta testing for the 600 engine. its a fuel pressure box. by increasing the pressure in the fuel rail more fuel gets delivered per injection event. the 600 version has 3 settings and is also in-cab adjustable. and now... a word of warning several actually. the combination of these boxes or even just the tst alone will kill your truck in short order if youre not careful. your transmission in stock form will only hold about 400hp. your turbo will hold to about as much if not a little less. be smart about any power upgrades and make sure youre upgrading your other components along with the engine - if you choose to go that route. the 400 hp thing is in line with what i have heard about the stock auto tranny. some folks at tdr have had big trouble well before 400. the second problem appears to be fueling. if you mod you should do something to get more fuel like a pusher pump. the original pump isnt made to stand up to higher needs. third the warranty. if i had the technical knowledge of some folks here i wouldnt care i would just be my own warranty station. for any major repairs however i need to go to the dealer and dc is really working on the dealers to find any mods and void warranties. some dealers are cool they dont care but more and more you hear about warranties being voided. just be careful but the main thing is to have fun with it. these trucks are very very nice. .
From : montanajeeper
he likes putting shit in peoples lungs that he doesnt even know even if they didnt piss him off. nice mother-fucker aint he .....and i didnt think anybody would understand. - .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom not the fact that theyre smoking.............the fact that you want yours to do it to.. .......when in rome. - .
From : montanajeeper
subject re smokin from tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com you said that your not going to tow with it i dont recall ever saying that i wasnt going to tow with it. ive stated on acceleration when pulling a load or otherwise driving with a heavy foot my powerstroke blows out deep black smoke and then in the same post said im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too. in another thread i stated that i didnt get the 4.10 gears because my ford was set up for heavy towing but i dont recall ever saying that i would never tow with this dodge. just this weekend i towed 7000 pounds total over to sidney. http//www.imageark.net/0002/pc42ky.jpg few people think that belching smoke is cool. perhaps in your circles. stop by thedieselstop.com sometime and search the 94-97 powerstroke only forum i frequent there for smok because some use smoke some use smokin and some use smoking. get behind a montana/wyoming cowboy pulling a 12 horse trailer over the continental divide with his 93 cummins dodge and watch that 12v smoke with the best of em. .
From : grumman581
montanajeeper wrote ... im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. you could do something like certain airshow aircraft do -- set up an injector into the exhaust that will burn whatever liquid that youre injecting... so if you inject water will people think you are steam powered grin aircraft have simplier exhaust systems so im not sure if this will work on an automobile exhaust... .
From : nosey
grumman-581 wrote montanajeeper wrote ... im wondering if there is a simple way to make my cummins smoke under heavy load too without chipping it or upgrading the injectors or otherwise voiding that awesome cummins warranty. you could do something like certain airshow aircraft do -- set up an injector into the exhaust that will burn whatever liquid that youre injecting... so if you inject water will people think you are steam powered grin aircraft have simplier exhaust systems so im not sure if this will work on an automobile exhaust... just do a google search for smoke oil. .