questions for 'T-boner' (was 'Lance Armstrong Gulity')

From : transurgeon

Q: how many businesses have you operated in your life-time were they successful what was your salary what was the salary of your lowest-paid employee at what point would your salary qualify you for one of those tax cuts for the rich in other words at what level of pay does one cease being a poor down-trodden worker and become an elitist capitalist pig who makes too much if offered a tax cut for the rich would you take it if yes why; if no why .

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From : tbone

how many businesses have you operated in your life-time three were they successful buisness 1 - was just part time and yes buisness 2 - yes buisness 3 - no bad timing and a lazy partner. what was your salary like it is any of your buisness but ill say over $100000 for buisness 2 and no salary at all for # 3 but i did make some money selling him the buisness that failed shortly after. what was the salary of your lowest-paid employee 0 and that would be me lol. at what point would your salary qualify you for one of those tax cuts for the rich in other words at what level of pay does one cease being a poor down-trodden worker and become an elitist capitalist pig who makes too much do you continually need to spin. i set no limit on either but when the boss makes over 50 times that of his employees then i consider him / her a greedy pig. how many times do i have to say the same thing if offered a tax cut for the rich would you take it how would i have a choice either way the rate is what the rate is for a given salary. if yes why; if no why meaningless question since there is no choice. now here is a question for you. why do you feel the need to show your immaturity at every opportunity with your childish name calling -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : milesh

tbone wrote lol no that is exactly right and since he isnt paying his average employee 400k wtf is he getting paid 20 million for. i see. so he should pay the janitor or even lower level employees 400k per year so as not to be greedy. most of the ceos making 20 million are primary owners in the company. pay low skill workers 400k...too funny. .

From : tbone

as usual you twist things. what is he doing to deserve the 20 million -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote lol no that is exactly right and since he isnt paying his average employee 400k wtf is he getting paid 20 million for. i see. so he should pay the janitor or even lower level employees 400k per year so as not to be greedy. most of the ceos making 20 million are primary owners in the company. pay low skill workers 400k...too funny. .

From : milesh

tbone wrote as usual you twist things. what is he doing to deserve the 20 million deserve he owns the friggn company. its his money invensted into it and so he deserves the benifits from it. are you saying that someone who owns a company should be paid no more than x times the lowest paid person if so please tell us what the value of x is. youve said 50 times is too much so what 2 times 5 times what gads i can see it now. liberals take over and pass laws setting limits to how much anyone can make over the lower employees salary they can make or else be taxed even more heavily and smile about it. call it spin as usual but that is exactly what you have been saying. if it isnt then give us something substantial such as numbers. youve said you cant do that because of many variables yet you most certainly do come up with the 50 times figure absent of anything else. .

From : beekeep

on wed 18 aug 2004 175045 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote what was the salary of your lowest-paid employee 0 and that would be me lol. i have about 12000000 working for me! i dont pay them anything but i do let them keep the honey they collect. now here is a question for you. why do you feel the need to show your immaturity at every opportunity with your childish name calling to quote harvick he is what he is. beekeep .

From : transurgeon

how many businesses have you operated in your life-time three were they successful buisness 1 - was just part time and yes buisness 2 - yes buisness 3 - no bad timing and a lazy partner. what was your salary like it is any of your buisness but ill say over $100000 for buisness 2 and no salary at all for # 3 but i did make some money selling him the buisness that failed shortly after. what was the salary of your lowest-paid employee 0 and that would be me lol. at what point would your salary qualify you for one of those tax cuts for the rich in other words at what level of pay does one cease being a poor down-trodden worker and become an elitist capitalist pig who makes too much do you continually need to spin. i set no limit on either but when the boss makes over 50 times that of his employees then i consider him / her a greedy pig. how many times do i have to say the same thing well thanks for admitting that you are a greedy pig 100 k / 0 = infinity if offered a tax cut for the rich would you take it how would i have a choice either way the rate is what the rate is for a given salary. if yes why; if no why meaningless question since there is no choice. now here is a question for you. why do you feel the need to show your immaturity at every opportunity with your childish name calling -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : bill hall

tbone wrote lol no that is exactly right and since he isnt paying his average employee 400k wtf is he getting paid 20 million for. i see. so he should pay the janitor or even lower level employees 400k per year so as not to be greedy. most of the ceos making 20 million are primary owners in the company. pay low skill workers 400k...too funny. none of my business on this one but i have to agree with tbone to a degree on this one and i am a fairly conservative voter. while i do believe that most doctors deserve a very good salary for their education long hours and service they provide i also believe many corporate execs are grossly over-compensated. take for instance everyones favorite wal-mart. the owners are billionaires while most of their employees cannot afford health coverage. the owners should no doubt be wealthy for the empire that our free enterprise system has allowed them to create but there becomes a point when it can called obscene. they are basically paying their employees as little as they can so that their wealth grows to gigantic proportions. i think they can easily afford to provide more for their employees and still amass a lot of wealth. and dont say that people are free to work elsewhere. many people lack the skills transportation or opportunies to find alternative employment and any work is better than welfare highly frowned upon or the soup line. while some companies cannot afford to better compensate their employees i believe if they are paying grossly high packages to ceos they can afford to take care of their employees better. and as tbone said what do they do to earn that kind of package. i dont think owning part of the company justifies keeping your employees in poverty. i guess its more of a treat people with the dignity they earn and deserve to me. other than that its take the suckers for all you can because you can. .

From : tbone

how many businesses have you operated in your life-time three were they successful buisness 1 - was just part time and yes buisness 2 - yes buisness 3 - no bad timing and a lazy partner. what was your salary like it is any of your buisness but ill say over $100000 for buisness 2 and no salary at all for # 3 but i did make some money selling him the buisness that failed shortly after. what was the salary of your lowest-paid employee 0 and that would be me lol. at what point would your salary qualify you for one of those tax cuts for the rich in other words at what level of pay does one cease being a poor down-trodden worker and become an elitist capitalist pig who makes too much do you continually need to spin. i set no limit on either but when the boss makes over 50 times that of his employees then i consider him / her a greedy pig. how many times do i have to say the same thing well thanks for admitting that you are a greedy pig 100 k / 0 = infinity lol yea too bad both figures were for the same person during two separate business ventures but hey i expect nothing less from you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : redneck tookover hell

lol yea too bad both figures were for the same person during two separate business ventures but hey i expect nothing less from you. and what exactly did you do lard ass to warrant such a high salary politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

on wed 18 aug 2004 175045 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote what was the salary of your lowest-paid employee 0 and that would be me lol. i have about 12000000 working for me! i dont pay them anything but i do let them keep the honey they collect. all of it now here is a question for you. why do you feel the need to show your immaturity at every opportunity with your childish name calling to quote harvick he is what he is. sad but true. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

bill hall wrote they are basically paying their employees as little as they can so that their wealth grows to gigantic proportions. i think they can easily afford to provide more for their employees and still amass a lot of wealth. you speak as if you know what their wealth is. do you really know or is is just what you have heard and dont say that people are free to work elsewhere. many people lack the skills and that is the very reason they work at walmart and the company should not be paying the top dollar. when they get those skills through their own initiatives then they can seek employment elsewhere or move up in the walmart family to a higher paying position. transportation or opportunies to find alternative employment lack of transportation is usually the result of lacking the initiatives to better themselves. it is a vicious circle that most create for themselves either through laziness or just simple ignorance. for some unfortunately it is actually a way of life that they have no desire to change. and any work is better than welfare true tbone said what do they do to earn that kind of package. thats a good question. do you know for example what a ceo at ford does to earn his pay what is his job and how many hours does he work. how much does he actually ear

From : beekeep

on thu 19 aug 2004 021358 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote i have about 12000000 working for me! i dont pay them anything but i do let them keep the honey they collect. all of it i do take some off the real strong colonies and put it on light or weak colonies. i dont harvest any honey for myself or for sale. now here is a question for you. why do you feel the need to show your immaturity at every opportunity with your childish name calling to quote harvick he is what he is. sad but true. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

my last employer in co preferred to hire young people fresh from the military or from fast food service. the place of employment was an assisted living facility. his reasoning those young folks had at least been given a chance to learn a work ethic. he deplored hiring from the general public. budd tbone wrote lol no that is exactly right and since he isnt paying his average employee 400k wtf is he getting paid 20 million for. i see. so he should pay the janitor or even lower level employees 400k per year so as not to be greedy. most of the ceos making 20 million are primary owners in the company. pay low skill workers 400k...too funny. none of my business on this one but i have to agree with tbone to a degree on this one and i am a fairly conservative voter. while i do believe that most doctors deserve a very good salary for their education long hours and service they provide i also believe many corporate execs are grossly over-compensated. take for instance everyones favorite wal-mart. the owners are billionaires while most of their employees cannot afford health coverage. the owners should no doubt be wealthy for the empire that our free enterprise system has allowed them to create but there becomes a point when it can called obscene. they are basically paying their employees as little as they can so that their wealth grows to gigantic proportions. i think they can easily afford to provide more for their employees and still amass a lot of wealth. and dont say that people are free to work elsewhere. many people lack the skills transportation or opportunies to find alternative employment and any work is better than welfare highly frowned upon or the soup line. while some companies cannot afford to better compensate their employees i believe if they are paying grossly high packages to ceos they can afford to take care of their employees better. and as tbone said what do they do to earn that kind of package. i dont think owning part of the company justifies keeping your employees in poverty. i guess its more of a treat people with the dignity they earn and deserve to me. other than that its take the suckers for all you can because you can. .

From : bill hall

and dont say that people are free to work elsewhere. many people lack the skills and that is the very reason they work at walmart and the company should not be paying the top dollar. when they get those skills through their own initiatives then they can seek employment elsewhere or move up in the walmart family to a higher paying position. lol! like there is such a thing as a higher paying position at walmart. what $1.50 an hour more as a manager or do you have experience with walmart and a higher paying position there .

From : budd cochran

have you ever worked at wal-mart give us some kind of proof you know what your talking about. ive known several people that are doing quite well at wal-mart by simply having a good work ethic that earned them promotions. as for the benefits why should wal-mart spend good money on employees who by demographic history tend to not have good work ethics and tend to quit the first time they hear breaks over people. back to work the problem is along the same lines as what happened years ago in a muffler factory i was working in a production line position and had the job figured out to where it wasnt much strain on me . . . i usually had to wait for the next piece to come down the conveyor belt. one of the female employees decided she should have the job since it looked so easy. i was bumped after teaching her my technique then she took over . . . for 30 minutes. then she was so far behind i had to go down and bail her out and run my own position. got in lots of jogging that day. the point is if you want the pay be able to do the job as well as anyone else that is worth that pay level. and dont say that people are free to work elsewhere. many people lack the skills and that is the very reason they work at walmart and the company should not be paying the top dollar. when they get those skills through their own initiatives then they can seek employment elsewhere or move up in the walmart family to a higher paying position. lol! like there is such a thing as a higher paying position at walmart. what $1.50 an hour more as a manager or do you have experience with walmart and a higher paying position there forget i asked if you had worked for wal-mart. its now obvious you havent. so . . . have you ever worked anywhere budd .

From : milesh

budd cochran wrote as for the benefits why should wal-mart spend good money on employees who by demographic history tend to not have good work ethics and tend to quit the first time they hear breaks over people. back to work doncha know the answer to this budd in the great liberal world salary should be based on how much the owner ceo president etc. make. minimum wage should be set to at least 1/50th of what the highest paid person recieves. health insurance sick time vacation company car etc. should be given out on the 1st day at work for all. how could the wal-mart door greeter support 6 kids 4 dogs 2 cats and 1 hampster with anything less .

From : tbone

and dont say that people are free to work elsewhere. many people lack the skills and that is the very reason they work at walmart and the company should not be paying the top dollar. when they get those skills through their own initiatives then they can seek employment elsewhere or move up in the walmart family to a higher paying position. lol! like there is such a thing as a higher paying position at walmart. what $1.50 an hour more as a manager or do you have experience with walmart and a higher paying position there i hope that you are in this for fun because if you are trying to be serious or make a valid point you are wasting your time as evident by budds post. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

bill hall wrote and dont say that people are free to work elsewhere. many people lack the skills and that is the very reason they work at walmart and the company should not be paying the top dollar. when they get those skills through their own initiatives then they can seek employment elsewhere or move up in the walmart family to a higher paying position. lol! like there is such a thing as a higher paying position at walmart. what $1.50 an hour more as a manager or do you have experience with walmart and a higher paying position there no i dont but apparently you do since you you know what the salary is for a walmart manager. now would you like to actually answer the real questions i put to you or would you rather just continue on in your blissful ignorance. jerry .

From : beekeep

on thu 19 aug 2004 132929 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote hey budd its good to see that you are alive and kicking. are you going to stay around awhile and yes i think that you would make a great greeter at wally world. your best bud beekeep .

From : tbone

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving budd cochran wrote as for the benefits why should wal-mart spend good money on employees who by demographic history tend to not have good work ethics and tend to quit the first time they hear breaks over people. back to work doncha know the answer to this budd in the great liberal world salary should be based on how much the owner ceo president etc. make. yawn this level of spin is really beginning to make you look stupid. minimum wage should be set to at least 1/50th of what the highest paid person recieves. thats not what was said and you know it but feel free to continue. health insurance sick time vacation company car etc. should be given out on the 1st day at work for all. how could the wal-mart door greeter support 6 kids 4 dogs 2 cats and 1 hampster with anything less so i guess that the wal-mart greeter is less of a person than you are according to you. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote i hope that you are in this for fun because if you are trying to be serious or make a valid point you are wasting your time as evident by budds post. not being serious and never making a valid point is something you are very experienced at. second only to you and your retarded oversimplifications. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

tbone wrote tbone wrote i hope that you are in this for fun because if you are trying to be serious or make a valid point you are wasting your time as evident by budds post. not being serious and never making a valid point is something you are very experienced at. second only to you and your retarded oversimplifications. damn another witty remark from the resident troll and he almost was able to come up with it by himself. who in the hell is paying your salary that you spend the entire day in this ng .......... talk about greedy and stealing you are the perfect example of everything you cry about. this answer ought to be good cant wait. jerry .

From : budd cochran

lol oh you are so right. my my. ill have to become a door greeter when i get back to co. budd budd cochran wrote as for the benefits why should wal-mart spend good money on employees who by demographic history tend to not have good work ethics and tend to quit the first time they hear breaks over people. back to work doncha know the answer to this budd in the great liberal world salary should be based on how much the owner ceo president etc. make. minimum wage should be set to at least 1/50th of what the highest paid person recieves. health insurance sick time vacation company car etc. should be given out on the 1st day at work for all. how could the wal-mart door greeter support 6 kids 4 dogs 2 cats and 1 hampster with anything less .

From : budd cochran

it is better to be cussed out by jerry then praised by tom b. budd tbone wrote i hope that you are in this for fun because if you are trying to be serious or make a valid point you are wasting your time as evident by budds post. not being serious and never making a valid point is something you are very experienced at. second only to you and your retarded oversimplifications. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : bill hall

my my... dont get your panties all in a bunch. my point was that if the owners of the business are so filthy rich they can afford to pay their employees better. there was a recent study done no i dont have it but it was an ap article in the paper that said a higher ratio of walmart employees are on public assistance than employees of similar businesses such as kroeger and fred meyer. and yes the sam walton family is indeed extremely rich just check forbes or other financial publications for a list of the richest americans. no it is most certainly not criminal to operate a business the way they do and as long as people are willing to work for or just above minimum wage that is the way things will continue. i guess my main point is that it is a shame they dont better compensate their employees if they can. they would probably have a much lower turnover rate if they did. and i certainly dont support any silly ratio of ceo pay to lowest employee pay. but i am wondering what yearly salary constitutes doing quite well at walmart oh and since you want to insult me by asking if i have ever worked anywhere; i have always been employed for the past 33 years. i started at age 13 with a paper route. i spent 4 1/2 years in the air force as a vietnamese linguist. i held a couple of different positions after high school and after leaving the service. i have worked the last 21 years as a building equipment mechanic working on boilers chillers roofpaks hydraulic and roped elevators and about everything in between. i am a union employee and know just a little about fair wages and work practices. and no i do not advocate higher wages for non-productive deadbeat employees. it would be nice to carry on a discussion in this group that didnt resort to name calling and insults. have you ever worked at wal-mart give us some kind of proof you know what your talking about. ive known several people that are doing quite well at wal-mart by simply having a good work ethic that earned them promotions. as for the benefits why should wal-mart spend good money on employees who by demographic history tend to not have good work ethics and tend to quit the first time they hear breaks over people. back to work the problem is along the same lines as what happened years ago in a muffler factory i was working in a production line position and had the job figured out to where it wasnt much strain on me . . . i usually had to wait for the next piece to come down the conveyor belt. one of the female employees decided she should have the job since it looked so easy. i was bumped after teaching her my technique then she took over . . . for 30 minutes. then she was so far behind i had to go down and bail her out and run my own position. got in lots of jogging that day. the point is if you want the pay be able to do the job as well as anyone else that is worth that pay level. and dont say that people are free to work elsewhere. many people lack the skills and that is the very reason they work at walmart and the company should not be paying the top dollar. when they get those skills through their own initiatives then they can seek employment elsewhere or move up in the walmart family to a higher paying position. lol! like there is such a thing as a higher paying position at walmart. what $1.50 an hour more as a manager or do you have experience with walmart and a higher paying position there forget i asked if you had worked for wal-mart. its now obvious you havent. so . . . have you ever worked anywhere budd .

From : roy

my my... dont get your panties all in a bunch. my point was that if the it would be nice to carry on a discussion in this group that didnt resort to name calling and insults. when that happens ill be walking on water. roy .

From : bill hall

my my... dont get your panties all in a bunch. my point was that if the it would be nice to carry on a discussion in this group that didnt resort to name calling and insults. when that happens ill be walking on water. roy lol! well we can always hope! .

From : budd cochran

my my... dont get your panties all in a bunch. lol it would take more than this to do that. my point was that if the owners of the business are so filthy rich they can afford to pay their employees better. agreed but why should they go to all the expense for employees with no work ethics there was a recent study done no i dont have it but it was an ap article in the paper that said a higher ratio of walmart employees are on public assistance than employees of similar businesses such as kroeger and fred meyer. and ap is one of the liberal medias. that alone makes them suspect to me. and yes the sam walton family is indeed extremely rich just check forbes or other financial publications for a list of the richest americans. ok. no it is most certainly not criminal to operate a business the way they do and as long as people are willing to work for or just above minimum wage that is the way things will continue. the exact reason so many corporations are sending work overseas is because too many in the us are unwilling like t-bone to work for a little less. i guess my main point is that it is a shame they dont better compensate their employees if they can. my point is they would be closing all the wal-marts in surprisingly short order if they paid too much in wages and benefits for bad employees. they would probably have a much lower turnover rate if they did. doubtful. you have toi have a work ethic to stick with a job and too many ypoung people coming out of the liberal schools of today have no work ethic. and i certainly dont support any silly ratio of ceo pay to lowest employee pay. but i am wondering what yearly salary constitutes doing quite well at walmart according to some of my friends that have worked for them if you have a good work ethic and arent above giving the customer a bit more help than expected you can advance quite well. one made manager of her department in just under a year. oh and since you want to insult me by asking if i have ever worked anywhere; i have always been employed for the past 33 years. i started at age 13 with a paper route. i spent 4 1/2 years in the air force as a vietnamese linguist. i held a couple of different positions after high school and after leaving the service. i have worked the last 21 years as a building equipment mechanic working on boilers chillers roofpaks hydraulic and roped elevators and about everything in between. my apologies sir. i am a union employee and know just a little about fair wages and work practices. and no i do not advocate higher wages for non-productive deadbeat employees. but does your union hierarchy advocate equality of wages / benefits for everyone it would be nice to carry on a discussion in this group that didnt resort to name calling and insults. again i apologize. if i may make a suggestion tom t-bone tends to cause these ruckeses deliberately possibly to get attention so hes a pretty obvious troll. i should avoid him myself i guess. budd .

From : miles

bill hall wrote my my... dont get your panties all in a bunch. my point was that if the owners of the business are so filthy rich they can afford to pay their employees better. but where do you draw the line i keep hearing about how rich people are and how they can afford to pay more but not one person that says this will ever say how much more. so i will ask again. how much better how much should a wal-mart door greeter make .

From : bill hall

my my... dont get your panties all in a bunch. lol it would take more than this to do that. my point was that if the owners of the business are so filthy rich they can afford to pay their employees better. agreed but why should they go to all the expense for employees with no work ethics there was a recent study done no i dont have it but it was an ap article in the paper that said a higher ratio of walmart employees are on public assistance than employees of similar businesses such as kroeger and fred meyer. and ap is one of the liberal medias. that alone makes them suspect to me. and yes the sam walton family is indeed extremely rich just check forbes or other financial publications for a list of the richest americans. ok. no it is most certainly not criminal to operate a business the way they do and as long as people are willing to work for or just above minimum wage that is the way things will continue. the exact reason so many corporations are sending work overseas is because too many in the us are unwilling like t-bone to work for a little less. i guess my main point is that it is a shame they dont better compensate their employees if they can. my point is they would be closing all the wal-marts in surprisingly short order if they paid too much in wages and benefits for bad employees. they would probably have a much lower turnover rate if they did. doubtful. you have toi have a work ethic to stick with a job and too many ypoung people coming out of the liberal schools of today have no work ethic. and i certainly dont support any silly ratio of ceo pay to lowest employee pay. but i am wondering what yearly salary constitutes doing quite well at walmart according to some of my friends that have worked for them if you have a good work ethic and arent above giving the customer a bit more help than expected you can advance quite well. one made manager of her department in just under a year. oh and since you want to insult me by asking if i have ever worked anywhere; i have always been employed for the past 33 years. i started at age 13 with a paper route. i spent 4 1/2 years in the air force as a vietnamese linguist. i held a couple of different positions after high school and after leaving the service. i have worked the last 21 years as a building equipment mechanic working on boilers chillers roofpaks hydraulic and roped elevators and about everything in between. my apologies sir. i am a union employee and know just a little about fair wages and work practices. and no i do not advocate higher wages for non-productive deadbeat employees. but does your union hierarchy advocate equality of wages / benefits for everyone it would be nice to carry on a discussion in this group that didnt resort to name calling and insults. again i apologize. if i may make a suggestion tom t-bone tends to cause these ruckeses deliberately possibly to get attention so hes a pretty obvious troll. i should avoid him myself i guess. budd budd thank you for your apologies. gladly accepted. i do have to agree with you about a lot of young peoples work ethics. i can sympathize with employers frustration in finding decent employees. too bad there isnt a good way to weed them out before hiring occurs. while my union doesnt advocate equality of wages for everyone it does advocate decent pay. pay is based on negotiated pay levels for different jobs skill levels. and i cant say that i completely agree with them either. i do believe that some positions are actually over paid. consider that a custodian at top pay level based on years on the job has a base pay of almost 40k/year. my base on the other hand is about 48k. then i make about 10k more in ot. i think the teeter totter needs to tip a bit farther on this one. as far as benefits all health benefits and vacation are the same for everyone. your vacation time is based on years of work. i certainly dont believe in equality of pay for all people but i do feel sorry for those working hard and trying to survive on close to minimum wage. greed is kind of disheartening to me i guess. have a good evening! .

From : budd cochran

budd thank you for your apologies. gladly accepted. thank you. i do have to agree with you about a lot of young peoples work ethics. i can sympathize with employers frustration in finding decent employees. too bad there isnt a good way to weed them out before hiring occurs. this is why a previous employer of mine preferred to hire those with a year of fast food experience. if they could hold up to that then they would have what it took to care for the elderly assisted living facility. while my union doesnt advocate equality of wages for everyone it does advocate decent pay. pay is based on negotiated pay levels for different jobs skill levels. and i cant say that i completely agree with them either. i do believe that some positions are actually over paid. consider that a custodian at top pay level based on years on the job has a base pay of almost 40k/year. my base on the other hand is about 48k. then i make about 10k more in ot. i think the teeter totter needs to tip a bit farther on this one. which way a custodian often risks his health to do his job. cleaning restrooms handling garbage etc. isnt as safe as it once was. aids and other diseases are the urse of the janitor today. besides how long do you think it would take to shut down your place of employment if no one would take out the trash the average hospital wouldnt last a week for example. yes i have been a custodian. vbg as far as benefits all health benefits and vacation are the same for everyone. your vacation time is based on years of work. i have no problem with that. as you work more years you should see more income to allow you to afford longer vacations. i certainly dont believe in equality of pay for all people but i do feel sorry for those working hard and trying to survive on close to minimum wage. greed is kind of disheartening to me i guess. the biggest problem with a fixed minimum wage is it doesnt work in all areas. here in moab ut the cost of living is jacked up to garner a maximum profit from tourist trade. but even fast food workers have to make $8-$9 / hr to make it this town of 4500 winter population. ive also lived in communities where minimum wage is a fairly high wage. if it could be adjusted for regional variances then it could be effective. have a good evening! and you a good day. budd .

From : jerry

tbone wrote i hope that you are in this for fun because if you are trying to be serious or make a valid point you are wasting your time as evident by budds post. not being serious and never making a valid point is something you are very experienced at. youre getting advice from the expert on that subject bill so listen up. jerry .

From : milesh

tbone wrote do you continually need to spin. i set no limit on either but when the boss makes over 50 times that of his employees then i consider him / her a greedy pig. how many times do i have to say the same thing ok using your figures youve said that a ceo making 20 million is greedy because he makes more than 50 times that of the lowest paid employee. so that would mean he would have to pay the lowest worker over 400k to be below the 501 ratio. you wanna rethink your warped logic here or is this about right .

From : tbone

tbone wrote do you continually need to spin. i set no limit on either but when the boss makes over 50 times that of his employees then i consider him / her a greedy pig. how many times do i have to say the same thing ok using your figures youve said that a ceo making 20 million is greedy because he makes more than 50 times that of the lowest paid employee. so that would mean he would have to pay the lowest worker over 400k to be below the 501 ratio. you wanna rethink your warped logic here or is this about right lol no that is exactly right and since he isnt paying his average employee 400k wtf is he getting paid 20 million for. now lets say that the average pay in this company is 50000 twice that of your median salary. that sets him at 400 times the salary of the average employee. does he work 400 times harder than the standard employee does he work 400 times longer than the average employee does he do the work of 400 employees since the answers are no no and no i want to know where is the market justification for this salary -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .