pulling the load
From : nathan w collier
Q: i just got back from vacation hauling the camper down to los angeles disney land and san diego zoo from billings montana. the scales at flyin j says we were just a couple hundred pounds shy of 23000 pounds total. i was a bit disappointed when pulling my camper back from texas but this time i have no complaints. since i had my family with me i didnt use as much accelerator and the truck just did fine. the looooooooong grade into baker california took some time but i was still passing the big trucks pulling the same hill. see http//inlinediesel.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=654 for trip pictures and details. what was disapointing about pulling from texas what is your configeration 6 speed 4.11 rear end with that much weight i would think so. your rig and 5th wheel are a nice setup. and the reasons you were passing trucks on the way to bakersfield the part of i-5 is very restrictive on speed limits on trucks and .... the trucks may only have about 2-3 times the torque of the 6.7l or 5.9 cummins in the dodge and may outweigh you by up to 55000 lbs figuring full tons and full load capacity in a box. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com http//hipowertalk.com .
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From : midlant
@fe18.lga azwiley1 wrote miles you are only partially correct here. if you are refering to just the lance like the one they show in the commercial with the new paddle shifters yes it is a sporty looking but not a sports car. if you are generalizing the lancer this is where you are incorrect as the lancer evo is a sports car. since the lancer is built on the same platform as the caliber is the evo similar to the caliber srt4 which dodge keeps delaying its rollout i suppose the srt4 might be classified as a sports car as it does have a 300hp engine. but to me its a low end affordable fast car for those that cant afford a real sports car! its front wheel drive so i wonder how theyve dealt with torque steer issues. all three cars are sport compacts and not true sports cars. the basis for those cars is a weeniemobile platform not a sports car platform. the neon srt4 and the up-and-coming caliber srt4 are the same thing - weeniemobile platforms tweaked out to actually handle decently. too bad theyre only fwd. torque steer nightmares. .
From : nathan w collier
on jun 21 637 pm miles n...@nopers.com wrote azwiley1 wrote miles you are only partially correct here. if you are refering to just the lance like the one they show in the commercial with the new paddle shifters yes it is a sporty looking but not a sports car. if you are generalizing the lancer this is where you are incorrect as the lancer evo is a sports car. since the lancer is built on the same platform as the caliber is the evo similar to the caliber srt4 which dodge keeps delaying its rollout honestly couldnt tell you. like i said before i personally dont care for these type of cars evo srt4 etc. but i also dont feel that because they have more than 2 doors and are fwd that they cant be classed as a sports car. i suppose the srt4 might be classified as a sports car as it does have a 300hp engine. but to me its a low end affordable fast car for those that cant afford a real sports car! its front wheel drive so i wonder how theyve dealt with torque steer issues. .
From : geekboy
roy roy@home.net wrote in on jun 21 234 pm joe dri...@noon.com wrote azwiley1 wiley...@yahoo.com wrote on jun 21 131 pm craig c. mcraig...@gmail.com wrote azwiley1 wrote is. this is prob as bad a subject to discuss as politics and religion. interesting observation larry. i imagine all subjects that are left up to each one of us to define for ourselves has a good chance of ending up being fought about at one point or another. craig c. yup. i see a sports car as something that was made to go fast and handle very well regardless of doors and drive train configuration. larry ya gotta make up yer mind. is it what you said above or is it the definition from your other post no i dont have to make up my mind. a statement was made about there not being a specific definition of sports cars so i provided two different ones. no where did i ever indicate that they were my definitions. i dont see how anybody can call a car that weighs in excess of 4000 friggin pounds a sport car. you folks telling me that my charger srt is a damn sports car that things a muscle car and a damn good one at that. .
From : craig c
nice setup. i had no idea that billings the first couple of pictures was that scenic. in the right spots even billings is beautiful. how was your mpg pulling your trailer it varied but overall i averaged about 12.1 mpg. not bad at all considering the load and the grades i was pulling. i noticed that you are quite the 1911 fan .....you could say that. - kimber has a new new to me anyway model eclipse pro carry ii. wanted to know what you thought of it before i spend a bunch of money. my recent experience with kimber http//1911talk.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=164 left a bad taste in my mouth. im sure ill own kimbers again eventually but im a little gun shy with them right now. im sure they build a fine weapon and im sure i just got a bad one.....but i would steer you towards the springfield loaded champion. mine http//1911talk.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=324 has been absolutely flawless and seems to function no matter what ammo i run through it. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .
From : nathan w collier
azwiley1 wiley156@yahoo.com wrote in on jun 20 838 pm miles n...@nopers.com wrote tbone wrote that is simply not true. have you seen the commercial for it the guy is testing a bunch of them banging thru gears with their autosticks and making them play that song and why would he be doing that unless they are trying to show this as a performance vehicle thats just a commercial. mitsubishi does has a commercial that kinda implies the lancer is a sports car. its nothing of the sort. to me theyre marketed as inexpensive sporty looking fun cars to drive. a 2.4l engine or the v6 is not performance by anyones standards. miles you are only partially correct here. if you are refering to just the lance like the one they show in the commercial with the new paddle shifters yes it is a sporty looking but not a sports car. if you are generalizing the lancer this is where you are incorrect as the lancer evo is a sports car. i wouldnt consider the evo or the wrx sti evos main competitor sports cars by any means as they are both 4-doors and have their roots as fwds. the original american sports car is the corvette. these days makers marketing departments are doing their damndest in trying to convince potential buyers that weeniemobiles are sporty- cars or muscle-machines. unfortunately its still just marketing. .
From : nathan w collier
nathan w. collier wrote i just got back from vacation hauling the camper down to los angeles disney land and san diego zoo from billings montana. nice setup. i had no idea that billings the first couple of pictures was that scenic. how was your mpg pulling your trailer on a separate subject perhaps we should talk via email i noticed that you are quite the 1911 fan i was at the gun show in dallas a couple of weeks ago and kimber has a new new to me anyway model eclipse pro carry ii. wanted to know what you thought of it before i spend a bunch of money. craig c. .
From : nathan w collier
on jun 21 240 pm craig c. mcraig...@gmail.com wrote joe wrote the s2000 is way more of a sports car than the mini. and thats even by larrys posted definitions.. once again those are not my definitions. i cited the sources for both and sorry to say neither are referenced as larrys. sorry joe follow along please. .
From : nathan w collier
nathan it doesnt sound like the kimber was at fault but that they decided to make it more ammo friendly. i disagree completely. kimber was completely at fault. the weapon would not function period and since its stamped custom shop on the slide its supposed to mean that the weapon was handled by a custom gun smith. that it wouldnt cycle at all says they did a very poor job. keep in mind 1911s were designed for ball ammo. were you using hollow points while what you say is true i wasnt shooting an actual 1911 i was shooting a modernized clone that in fact doesnt even use the original bushing barrel setup. modern 1911 clones are indeed designed to function hollow points......if they werent they would have a dang hard time selling them. to answer your question however the weapon wouldnt feed anything reliably. the only round that would function even half way was the corbon powrball and even that was hit and miss. i tried blazer brass i tried wwb i tried american eagle all ball and it woudlnt cycle it. nor would it cycle hydrashoks or any other hollow point. i have literally dozens of 1911s and only 2 have been problematic. the kimber that went back and my colt combat commander xse which functions everything reliably except corbon jhps which happens to be my trusted carry round. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .
From : craig c
on jun 21 137 pm craig c. mcraig...@gmail.com wrote beryl wrote hardly a reason to choke gasp. plenty of reason! head technician for deltran gives wrong advice but ... it isnt wrong according to what you said just unnecessary. additionally you still havent convinced me that you know more than he does. so at this point youre just running your mouth. its non-mechanic speak for ring connectors. you got the point and so did everyone else. so shut the fuck up. yup everyone recognized your pansy-speak for ring connectors. we all have our areas of expertise. mine is not auto mechanics or mechanic speak like 95%+ of the population. i guess we cant all be queer electrical mechanical grammatical experts like you. damn. craig c. dont you mean thank god vice damn .
From : nathan w collier
nathan w. collier wrote regardless with the negative experience im just hesitant to buy another. well me too after hearing of more people than just you having problems with them. thats why i asked you in the first place. so thanks for the confirmation. absolutely. the springfield ultra. i did a review on mine at http//1911talk.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=224 now that is a nice looking gun. im a big fan of the hogue grips. i have a set on my s&w 910. have you played with the s&w m&p yet its quickly becoming one of my favorites. see my review at http//concealedcarryforum.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=493 i have not fired one but i have held one. it reminds me of a glock. this may be opening me up for ridicule but i wasnt blessed with the biggest hands i have long ass fingers however - . a glock doesnt sit well in the palm of my hand. feels like its going to fly out when i shoot. thanks for the information. ill check out the springfield. craig c. .
From : nathan w collier
if you had both of those on the truck i would say you would have no problem doing 65+ up the hill. .....i think youre underestimating that hill. - -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .
From : midlant
joe wrote what fwd is considered a sports car well a hand full come to mind that are awd but only one that i can think of that i personally would consider a sports car that is fwd. thats the mini cooper s. not so much for the power although its no slouch but the maneuverability. i took a test drive with the sales guy and ill never forget it. he took a 90 degree turn going 70 mph. the only skid marks were the ones in my underwear. it was amazing. btw ill agree 100% with you on the db9. the vantage and vanquish are no slouches either. yeah ... i wouldnt refuse one if it was given to me. - craig c. .
From : geekboy
on jun 21 1119 am roy r...@home.net wrote azwiley1 wrote why just because it is a fwd vice rwd has 4 doors vice 2 and is a ricer is it not a sports car i never saw/heard any of those being required to classed as a sports car. i had a similar discussion with a guy i use to work with an indian that absolutely would not budge off of his position that to be considered a real sports car it had to be rwd. he consider the honda s2000 a real sports car because of this. i still get a good chuckle from that. wanna talk about a real sports car aston martin db9. that car gives me a chub. i would love to be able to get my hands on a porsche 911 cararra tt! wasnt there some sort of deal that a car had to have two seats only and so many horsepower per pound. or maybe cubic inches of displacement per pound to qualify as a sports car..- hide quoted text - maybe back in the late 60s and early 70s that was the case. you take the evo and it has as much or more power then some v-8 that are coming out today and pound for pound they are lighter. a true evo comes with a lot of carbon fiber and light weight panles already on it. .
From : geekboy
crag beryl wrote and what are eye-lets is that girl-talk for ring connectors probably wanted to be sure youd understand. .
From : snoman
azwiley1 wrote why just because it is a fwd vice rwd has 4 doors vice 2 and is a ricer is it not a sports car i never saw/heard any of those being required to classed as a sports car. i had a similar discussion with a guy i use to work with an indian that absolutely would not budge off of his position that to be considered a real sports car it had to be rwd. he consider the honda s2000 a real sports car because of this. i still get a good chuckle from that. wanna talk about a real sports car aston martin db9. that car gives me a chub. craig c. wasnt there some sort of deal that a car had to have two seats only and so many horsepower per pound. or maybe cubic inches of displacement per pound to qualify as a sports car.. .
From : geekboy
tbone wrote thats because the dealers dont order a whole bunch of them. the dealer by me had one for months but that was a while ago. they are selling faster now that people know how fast they are but they are still far from flying off of the floor and dc is still dissapointed with the sales numbers. dealers here in arizona have a large stock of chargers and avengers. both models are selling very well. .
From : snoman
tbone wrote i never said that it was but the commercial indicates that it is. if it came with a 5 or 6 speed sales would increase. highly doubtful. the calibers are available with a 5 speed but only account for about 15% of sales and only on the base models. manual transmissions are just not very popular. every single one of my cars from 1984 till 2000 were manuals and i struggled each time at the dealers to find one. no they werent out of stock because of high demand. the dealers stocked so few because they dont sell. people want automatics. they are sold that way because that is what most of the dealerships order because since anyone can drive them they are easier to sell yep. the public demands automatics far more than manuals. recall ever saying that standard shift was more popular only that sport and performance cars need to have it available for them to be taken seriously. taken seriously ok so they produce a manual but it accounts for only 10% of sales of a particular model. does that make the public take it seriously even though they dont buy it with a stick once again miles you cant see the forest thru the trees. no tom. fact is people prefer automatics. you seem to be saying that more cars of a given model will be sold if they simply have a manual available even though people wont buy it. it only cooks an auto if an idiot keeps it in drive in hilly areas. you really dont seem to know a hell of a lot about cars if you believe that. an auto cooks when it continually shifts up and down. a typical car will not cook climbing a hill if its held in the proper gear. were not talking about towing a heavy trailer with inadequate cooling here tom! .
From : craig c
azwiley1 wrote why just because it is a fwd vice rwd has 4 doors vice 2 and is a ricer is it not a sports car i never saw/heard any of those being required to classed as a sports car. i had a similar discussion with a guy i use to work with an indian that absolutely would not budge off of his position that to be considered a real sports car it had to be rwd. he consider the honda s2000 a real sports car because of this. i still get a good chuckle from that. wanna talk about a real sports car aston martin db9. that car gives me a chub. craig c. .
From : nathan w collier
nathan w. collier wrote it varied but overall i averaged about 12.1 mpg. not bad at all considering the load and the grades i was pulling. thats great. that w/o od the entire time champion. mine http//1911talk.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=324 has been absolutely flawless and seems to function no matter what ammo i run through it. ive heard similar grumblings about kimber. i have a kimber ultra carry ii stainless. flawless weapon so far. although i have only put about 150 rounds through it. ive not checked into the springfields. do they have a carry model .45 i.e. compact frame and short barrel like the kimber ultra carry ii or eclipse pro carry ii i gotta say the *best* gun i have and have ever fired is the s&w model 910. 9mm. never jammed approximately 1200 rounds put through it nice tight patterns affordable simple design very easy to breakdown/clean and reassemble. definitely one of s&ws better guns. craig c. .