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From : nathan w collier

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From : azwiley1

....but were talking a significant difference here. im going to remove the outer tires and the rear and try it. id bet i could put 1500 pounds in the bed of my 04.5 and still out accelerate the 05. whats the mileage on both .

From : azwiley1

i own an 04.5 3500 srw cummins powered 4x4 as well as an 05 3500 drw cummins powered 4x4. both can be seen at http//inlinediesel.com/trucks/3gen/1/index.html the 04.5 has the cummins 325/600 and the 05 has the 325/610. both are automatic and both have 3.73 gears. the 04.5 is however noticeably more powerful than the 05. the 05 isnt weak by any means but the 04.5 runs circles around it and i dont believe the weight of two extra tires makes that much of a difference. at this point im trying to figure out of i got lucky and got a powerful 04.5 or if im unlucky and got a weak 05. any ideas why there would be a noticable difference thanks -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .

From : tom lawrence

on may 28 453 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote ive a question. regarding the sensor placment. why not put it in the line out of the transmissinon why because im an idiot thats why of course it should go in the output line and thats where mine is - as the replacement cooler line i referenced is about 6 feet too short to replace the return line. i must have had a brain cramp. thanks for the catch. of note... see i posted something wrong... i was corrected. no harm no foul... no ranting raving arguing etc. simply amazing... damn you tom! i just put in my gauge based off your first post!!!!! how dare you post incorrect info!!! bg .

From : azwiley1

on may 28 744 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote on mon 28 may 2007 193924 -0700 azwiley1 wrote on may 28 650 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote damn you tom! i just put in my gauge based off your first post!!!!! how dare you post incorrect info!!! bg pal with that little bow-tie of yours you shouldnt be towing much more than an empty radio flyer anyhow oh man kick a guy where it really hurts why dont you!!! g sadly the lil bow tie tows better then my ram did. damn!!!!!!!! was the ram running on 2 cyl or is the chevy currently being towed by a ram bg -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd oh you guys are sooo damn funny! bg .

From : chris thompson

.....but were talking a significant difference here. im going to remove the outer tires and the rear and try it. id bet i could put 1500 pounds in the bed of my 04.5 and still out accelerate the 05. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com at this point im trying to figure out of i got lucky and got a powerful 04.5 or if im unlucky and got a weak 05. any ideas why there would be a noticable difference thanks rotating mass. iow yeah its the wheels. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i own an 04.5 3500 srw cummins powered 4x4 as well as an 05 3500 drw cummins powered 4x4. both can be seen at http//inlinediesel.com/trucks/3gen/1/index.html the 04.5 has the cummins 325/600 and the 05 has the 325/610. both are automatic and both have 3.73 gears. the 04.5 is however noticeably more powerful than the 05. the 05 isnt weak by any means but the 04.5 runs circles around it and i dont believe the weight of two extra tires makes that much of a difference. at this point im trying to figure out of i got lucky and got a powerful 04.5 or if im unlucky and got a weak 05. any ideas why there would be a noticable difference thanks -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .

From : roy

on may 28 720 pm nosey kfre...@removethis.hotmail.com wrote maybe your jack is reaching the end of its range of travel. something else to look at too is what is the reach of your jack a lot of your inexpensive even craftsman jacks have a reach on them that may not be enough for your truck. you may think about getting one for trucks and suvs as they lift higher. or maybe his jack wont go up high enough. ;^ -- ken yeah that too! never saw your when i posted mine. that is the biotch of using a web based group reader i am not using all the services cox has as i am packing tearing down and stopping services since i move in three days. god i will be glad when this is done! .

From : nathan w collier

at this point im trying to figure out of i got lucky and got a powerful 04.5 or if im unlucky and got a weak 05. any ideas why there would be a noticable difference thanks rotating mass. iow yeah its the wheels. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i own an 04.5 3500 srw cummins powered 4x4 as well as an 05 3500 drw cummins powered 4x4. both can be seen at http//inlinediesel.com/trucks/3gen/1/index.html the 04.5 has the cummins 325/600 and the 05 has the 325/610. both are automatic and both have 3.73 gears. the 04.5 is however noticeably more powerful than the 05. the 05 isnt weak by any means but the 04.5 runs circles around it and i dont believe the weight of two extra tires makes that much of a difference. at this point im trying to figure out of i got lucky and got a powerful 04.5 or if im unlucky and got a weak 05. any ideas why there would be a noticable difference thanks -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .

From : tom lawrence

from trading my 05 im looking at financing $39992 and if i can grow to live with the new headlights i might just grab it up. any opininions on this setup 6.7/6 speed auto/oem engine brake hmmm... so youre going to toss all youve already paid on your 05 plus an extra $3k to buy a $37k truck just to get an extra in-between gear in your transmission the 6spd has two overdrive gears with an engine brake just questioning the financial end here... as for the new truck itself its still pretty new so not a lot of time to form any opinions on it. im sure the engine is solid - but its too soon to tell about things like particulate filters cats fuel economy since its gotta constantly use more fuel to burn out the residue that builds up in the dpf etc. with regard to your warranty concerns youd be tearing up your new trucks warranty the minute you hook up that toy hauler... dc only rates them at 15350 and thats with 4.10s. given that my vote would be to spend the money setting up your current truck to do what you want it to do. in the end i think youll be saving money and getting a better-performing truck out of it. .

From : max dodge

on mon 28 may 2007 190133 +0000 brian wrote i was wondering when i put my key in the ignition and go to start itwaiting for the glow plugs a engine light come on. once its done with the glow plugs and testing its self the engine light then blinks several times and then stays on. when i start the truck the light goes out .. this is not a odb2 code and i cannot remember if it always doen this or not any help would be great 2006 ctd quad 4 speed auto cycle your key on - off - on - off - on without starting the truck your codes will be displayed in the odometer as pxxx then when done it will show pdone post back here if any codes are found. i havent noticed any blinking engine lights on my 05 but havent really looked either. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd the only light blinkin on my 03 is the parking light but im parked and the brake is set. oh and your 06 has a heater grid where the air inlet housing mates with the intake manifold. no glow plugs. the grid heats the air prior to entering the intake manifold for cold starts. for this reason if you ever have trouble cold starting your ctd do not use any starter spray. if you did the next sound you would hear would be expensive to fix. fmb north mexico .

From : nathan w collier

id say its near impossible since the biggest problems will be software compatability. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author you didnt read that right. 6 speed auto. - -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com can the new 6 speed automatic be retrofitted into an 05 5.9 cummins powered dodge thanks yes but its cheaper/less frustrating/less time consuming to buy a truck with one already in it. youll need to flash the pcm for a manual among other things. besides you are too old for one right -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author can the new 6 speed automatic be retrofitted into an 05 5.9 cummins powered dodge thanks -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .

From : nathan w collier

can the new 6 speed automatic be retrofitted into an 05 5.9 cummins powered dodge thanks -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .

From : roy

wondering who offers what in regards to a torque splitter for my 05 cummins powered dodge it would work out well if i could use stock gearing most of the time and a torque splitter when towing heavy. thanks nate us gear makes auxilliary transmisions that might be helpful. there are popular amongst rvers that tow heavy. i dont know the url but a google search should reveal their website. they might have a solution to your problems. mike http//www.usgear.cc/dualrange.htm -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//inlinediesel.com .

From : tom lawrence

forget about it. youre edith! what ever. your earlier attempt was better as i didnt understand it and you could have made up anything you wanted. pity. i disagree. it is only when placeholder gives bad or uniformed advice. wrong edith. this thread is an example. the op posted in a way that neither you snoman nor i understood yet those who own a diesel did. i only entered the fray in response to your suggestion that those who give advice on a topic which they dont understand are somehow maligned. on the contrary those who post on a topic of which they know little or nothing are fools. all the op had to say was diesel any complaints should go there. what you or i dont understand about a post mores the pity as you continue to place the blame of your lack of understanding on the op. ... beryl... just slink away from a topic which yall have been questioned on or shown to be out right wrong about. if nell wants to tell me the one situation where als way of wiring a battery isolation relay has an advantage great! i give up nell. huh any other questions what outright wrongs did i slink away from lets revisit them too. you attempted to correct me on a matter of punctuation. my reply refuted your argument. you remained silent. you can keep up your sanctimonious rhetoric or you can lean back mellow a little and maybe just maybe learn something or better yet contribute something useful. but im leaned back and mellow already! of course you already stated that you wouldnt learn anything no matter i stated that id learn the same either way. but you can call it nothing. your attitude an idea i find too easy to believe so go ahead give me a cute name in a pathetic attempt to insult me. lets see ive been sheryl easy roll cockbreath asshole assclown crotch cannibal... so what easy roll was mine or perhaps it was easily rolled. i rarely resort to name calling but when combined with beryl it works in so many dimensions i just couldnt help myself. shut up edith! shut up edith! is that the best you can do alas i weary of this banter. no good has come from it. there was a glimmer of hope when you acknowledged snomans foibles. i pity more than i did yesterday. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : max dodge

ed aitch i dont know what that means but at least its one i havent heard before. 3b in the chevy group someone asked about adding acetone to the gas tank. snoman suggested the op use high octane gas because if the engine could adjust to the high octane at least he qualified his remark he would get better milage which would offset the higher cost for the gas. when i politely pointed out that higher octane gas costs 6-7% more than regular and asked if the improved mileage would be greater than 6-7% he did his usual and didnt respond. illogical advice. big deal. ive heard that all over the place. the point is it doesnt hold up to a logical analysis of the question posed. why must i re-explain snoman is a placeholder. it isnt only when placeholder gives bad advice. you know that. its even when placeholder gives correct advice. its also when the advice placeholder gives would be the same that any other ordinary person lacking special knowledge of a particular engine that they dont own might give. i disagree. it is only when placeholder gives bad or uniformed advice. this thread is an example. the op posted in a way that neither you snoman nor i understood yet those who own a diesel did. i only entered the fray in response to your suggestion that those who give advice on a topic which they dont understand are somehow maligned. on the contrary those who post on a topic of which they know little or nothing are fools. ive upheld the unpopular end of such topics as the price of gas and extended warranties. i did my best to respond to those who disagreed with me poorly in the extended warranty thread. furthermore when ive been wrong i have admitted it you should know one example was in direct response to you. snoman no place holder here and you beryl again no place holder here just slink away from a topic which yall have been questioned on or shown to be out right wrong about. you can keep up your sanctimonious rhetoric or you can lean back mellow a little and maybe just maybe learn something or better yet contribute something useful. of course you already stated that you wouldnt learn anything no matter i stated that id learn the same either way. but you can call it nothing. your attitude an idea i find too easy to believe so go ahead give me a cute name in a pathetic attempt to insult me. lets see ive been sheryl easy roll cockbreath asshole assclown crotch cannibal... so what easy roll was mine or perhaps it was easily rolled. i rarely resort to name calling but when combined with beryl it works in so many dimensions i just couldnt help myself. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : tom lawrence

the 48re is plenty strong enough to deal with a light chipping what about light chipping while towing 16000# what do you consider light you already have 610 going beyond 720-750 ftlbs would be more than light. advanced stages of chipping are not compatible with towing. i dont understand that. please explain. due to the huge amounts of fuel pushed by the higher stages of the chips you risk a melt down to internal componants because of load and egt temps that do not stay at acceptable levels. these levels work fine if the engine can move enough air to keep the cool air flowing thus lowering egts. but slow the rpms and egts go up and risk of catastrophic failure follows. youll find that talking with the more reputable purveyors of these products can steer you to thier model of choice for towing rather than drag racing. tom lawarence has a twin turbo setup that is fairly radical but iirc could be compatible with towing. if and when he chimes in hed be the guy to talk to since im sure he did a bunch of research. dropping to 4.10 or 4.30 gears would help towing the trailer. what ratio do you think would be better 4.10 4.30 or 4.56 what about a torque splitter any recommendations there thanks personally id go with the 4.10s or 4.30s. 4.56 would be overkill and a pita when not pulling the trailer. the pcm should be able to be flashed to deal with the tire diameter and gear ratio combination so the speedo will be correct. the decisive factor in choosing the gears would be the rpm you were turning going up the hills id think with the isbe you would want to be in the 1900-2300 range. the rest is math. keep one thing in mind though... more gear isnt necessarily going to make you faster up the hill but it will make it easier for the engine and perhaps youll gain some mph in the process. the only way to be sure you will go faster up a hill is to add power. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author .

From : tom lawrence

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From : nathan w collier

tomorrow while you your loved ones and your friends are bbqing partying and enjoying life take a moment to remember all those that are out there sacrificing all they are and all they have for us. tip a hat raise a toast say a silent prayer but do not forget them. .

From : max dodge

on may 27 214pm fred j. mccall fmcc...@earthlink.net wrote j doll j...@jvlnet.com wrote foleys crime is that he is a pedophile not a homosexual. is there any evidence that foley ever committed said crime hell if you take a roomful of heterosexual men and trot a cute 17 year old girl out in front of them i guess theyll all suddenly be pedophiles too... translation i like young girls .

From : roy

the 48re is plenty strong enough to deal with a light chipping what about light chipping while towing 16000# what do you consider light advanced stages of chipping are not compatible with towing. i dont understand that. please explain. dropping to 4.10 or 4.30 gears would help towing the trailer. what ratio do you think would be better 4.10 4.30 or 4.56 what about a torque splitter any recommendations there thanks -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com http//hipowertalk.com .

From : azwiley1

j doll jdoll@jvlnet.com wrote foleys crime is that he is a pedophile not a homosexual. is there any evidence that foley ever committed said crime hell if you take a roomful of heterosexual men and trot a cute 17 year old girl out in front of them i guess theyll all suddenly be pedophiles too... -- false words are not only evil in themselves but they infect the soul with evil. -- socrates .

From : ed h

apparently rep. mark foley is homosexual. and like many homosexual men he has pedophilic tendencies. we should pray for him that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. meanwhile we need to wake up. the fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesnt stop us from continuing to elevate such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids. http//worldnetdaily.com//article.asparticleid=52244 you sir are a moron foleys crime is that he is a pedophile not a homosexual. gay men arent abusing the female victims of pedophilia so how you claim this is typical homosexual behavior is beyond me. sexual predators come in lots of packages and if this was typical homosexual behavior then where are the pages that barney frank dallied with do you really think that if they existed the republican right would have looked the other way like they did for foley .

From : max dodge

apparently rep. mark foley is homosexual. and like many homosexual men he has pedophilic tendencies. we should pray for him that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. meanwhile we need to wake up. the fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesnt stop us from continuing to elevate such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids. http//worldnetdaily.com//article.asparticleid=52244 .

From : snoman

regearing for a proper long term solution. it is lot different to tow in rockies than it is in the flat lands and what may work in the flats does not always work in mountains but some seem to forget that. how i would configure a low altitude flat land tower vs one that is at high altitude and in mountains is a completely different matter. detriot does not tell you this either because it might hurt sales image of top end trucks. if you elect to chip it to solve problem save some money for when stock tranny gives up the ghost on a long hard pull. it is not a bad tranny but it will suffer for boosted torque on long hard pulls and shorten its life. many avid chippers do not even consider this. manuals are a little more tolerant of this. ----------------- thesnoman.com . 222 335629 gef6i.5320$zn5.716@trndny05 tom lawrence probably has the best idea on what ya need to do here. imo that trailer needs something more like the navistar pickup just for the weight that truck would bring. however the dodge is more than able to move it. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author please see http//inlinediesel.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=617 and give me your feedback and advice. thanks -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com http//hipowertalk.com .

From : snoman

on sun 27 may 2007 014527 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote ed aitch because you have been here 5-6 years maybe you remember some of snomans more outrageous posts... 1 a woman described a problem with her deployed husbands speedometer and the symptom suggested replacing the vehicle speed sensor which costs about $35. its a topic that was discussed in several threads no more than a few months prior. snomans advice sell the truck because they are known to have numerous electrical problems. sell a truck because it needs a $35 part expensive advice. i remember that one! 2 someone asked for the torque specification on a particular part. snoman replied that his manual stated something like 105 ft-lbs when the actual spec called for something closer to 35 ft-lbs. that could have easily broken parts or injured the guy. dangerous advice. i remember something about that too! 3a snoman replied to another person that he should use high octane gas in his v-10 because the knock sensor would compensate thus giving the v-10 better performance. when it was pointed out that there is no knock sensor in the v-10 snoman slinked away. ignorant advice. missed that. the original i mean the aftermath never ends... 3b in the chevy group someone asked about adding acetone to the gas tank. snoman suggested the op use high octane gas because if the engine could adjust to the high octane at least he qualified his remark he would get better milage which would offset the higher cost for the gas. when i politely pointed out that higher octane gas costs 6-7% more than regular and asked if the improved mileage would be greater than 6-7% he did his usual and didnt respond. illogical advice. big deal. ive heard that all over the place. i defended snoman a few times until i realized that not only does he jump into a topic of which he knows little or nothing like this one but also he posts dangerous expensive and sometimes just plain ignorant suggestions. he doesnt get jumped on everytime he posts only when he gives bad advice. why must i re-explain snoman is a placeholder. it isnt only when placeholder gives bad advice. you know that. its even when placeholder gives correct advice. its also when the advice placeholder gives would be the same that any other ordinary person lacking special knowledge of a particular engine that they dont own might give. of course you already stated that you wouldnt learn anything no matter i stated that id learn the same either way. but you can call it nothing. your attitude an idea i find too easy to believe so go ahead give me a cute name in a pathetic attempt to insult me. lets see ive been sheryl easy roll cockbreath asshole assclown crotch cannibal... so what oh come on. that is selling us way too short. there have been many more than that. .

From : tom lawrence

damn you tom! i just put in my gauge based off your first post!!!!! how dare you post incorrect info!!! bg pal with that little bow-tie of yours you shouldnt be towing much more than an empty radio flyer anyhow ouch!! that will leave a mark.bfg .

From : snoman

azwiley1 wrote tomorrow while you your loved ones and your friends are bbqing partying and enjoying life take a moment to remember all those that are out there sacrificing all they are and all they have for us. tip a hat raise a toast say a silent prayer but do not forget them. amen. +1 denny .

From : tom lawrence

maybe your jack is reaching the end of its range of travel. something else to look at too is what is the reach of your jack a lot of your inexpensive even craftsman jacks have a reach on them that may not be enough for your truck. you may think about getting one for trucks and suvs as they lift higher. or maybe his jack wont go up high enough. ;^ -- ken .