power window switch or relay
From : Annonymous
Q: i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first any suggestions .
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From : tom lawrence
perfect. thank you very much that was right on. did it and my passengers have their power windows back! again thank you. wanna come over and do mine too ^ .
From : tom lawrence
i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first first question... what the hell are you doing with my truck! yeah ive got the same truck 03 3500 and the same problem. although with mine its somewhat intermittent. there isnt any relay... just a circuit breaker. and thats the same circuit breaker that powers all windows including the drivers. i think its poor contacts in the lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the other window switches. but - since 95% of the time im the only one in my truck its hard for me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it .
From : tom lawrence
the rear plug has the only tan wire going into it and it is the heavier guage so i assume that is one of the wires to jump. can you tell me which yellow one you want to jumper the tan wire from pin 9 of the 12-pin connector to the yellow wire from pin 8 of the 8-pin connector .
From : Annonymous
on mon 3 mar 2008 213419 -0500 tom lawrence tlawrence5@earthlink.net wrote i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first first question... what the hell are you doing with my truck! yeah ive got the same truck 03 3500 and the same problem. although with mine its somewhat intermittent. there isnt any relay... just a circuit breaker. and thats the same circuit breaker that powers all windows including the drivers. i think its poor contacts in the lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the other window switches. but - since 95% of the time im the only one in my truck its hard for me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it i hear you. i let it go for a long time. and it started off intermittent in mine too but now it is all the time. the first time i noticed it was when i had my fifth wheel hooked up so i thought maybe it was a short in the traler wiring or something. but now its spring and i am going to retire in a couple of months and im really getting this spring cleaning need to get everything working like it should. maybe if i just wait for a while the urge will go away. .
From : im right
gain access use some radioshack tv tuner cleaner contact cleaner even wd40 may help. or replace the switch if that is where the power to the remaining switches are getting interrupted. on mon 3 mar 2008 213419 -0500 tom lawrence tlawrence5@earthlink.net wrote i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first first question... what the hell are you doing with my truck! yeah ive got the same truck 03 3500 and the same problem. although with mine its somewhat intermittent. there isnt any relay... just a circuit breaker. and thats the same circuit breaker that powers all windows including the drivers. i think its poor contacts in the lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the other window switches. but - since 95% of the time im the only one in my truck its hard for me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it i hear you. i let it go for a long time. and it started off intermittent in mine too but now it is all the time. the first time i noticed it was when i had my fifth wheel hooked up so i thought maybe it was a short in the traler wiring or something. but now its spring and i am going to retire in a couple of months and im really getting this spring cleaning need to get everything working like it should. maybe if i just wait for a while the urge will go away. .
From : tom lawrence
wow you were the one that told me how easy is was to change my drivers side mirror and it was. that same procedure drops the switch panel in your hands. so access is 10 minutes no more and this problem can only be a flaky switch or a flaky switch connection. yeah... pathetic of me isnt it i know i know... i really should just go out there and fix it. but... its cold and rainy outside - nice and warm in here. plus im lazy. maybe one of these days... .
From : steve lusardi
tom wow you were the one that told me how easy is was to change my drivers side mirror and it was. that same procedure drops the switch panel in your hands. so access is 10 minutes no more and this problem can only be a flaky switch or a flaky switch connection. steve i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first first question... what the hell are you doing with my truck! yeah ive got the same truck 03 3500 and the same problem. although with mine its somewhat intermittent. there isnt any relay... just a circuit breaker. and thats the same circuit breaker that powers all windows including the drivers. i think its poor contacts in the lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the other window switches. but - since 95% of the time im the only one in my truck its hard for me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it .
From : christopher d thompson
and what about this monster shop you have!!!!! its gotten a lot smaller lately. i can barely fit the vehicles in there now. i need to seriously consider expanding it. my townships zoning office is probably going to have a fit over this. .
From : roy
the bolt patterns are different and the bellhousings are cast as part of the case but you might be able to use your 318 trans as a core for a rebuilt slant six trans. thats a lot of weight for the 225 to haul around and i dont think youll get better mileage. my 80 d-150 225 np-435 3.55 sure-grip doesnt do as good on gas as my 79 d-150 318 727 3.55 because i have to use more throttle to accelerate and to maintain speed. budd i have a 77 m-886 ambulance built on the w-200. my 318 is kind of ragged and i have access to a 225. the 225 is out of an 80 car single barrel. so im wondering about bell housings from slant 6 to the 727 as well as torque converters. true wont have as much power; but i dont haul much and top recommended speed for this vehicle is 55 mph anyway. the front runs 4.10s and the rear at 4.11s and ive got a special gizmo in my transfer case that cuts the front wheels out. so whas up wi dat montana thanks you. .
From : tom lawrence
tom lawrence wrote well i know that the 12 code battery has recently been disconnected wont light the ce indicator. my haynes manual lists all the fault codes but doesnt say which ones do or dont turn on that light. try the link i posted. it does. i just learned last night that my friend has been running the truck without a thermostat. thats why he was blocking the radiator off with pieces of cardboard. he took it out because the truck kept blowing head gaskets by cyl. 2. his theory was that the backpressure from the operational thermostat contributed to the head gasket blowing. but first he had the head boiled while it was off and left the coolant temperature sensor in it. shortly after he put the head back on he noticed that the fan refused to come on so he bought a new cts that was made in mexico. it made no difference so he bought another one made in pennysylvania. its in there now but the fan still didnt come on and the truck would overheat. after he figured out this was happening he removed the thermostat and started using the cardboard system. this has got to be generating some kind of code but when i disconnected the battery i wiped any codes out for the time being. -- john corliss .
From : stephenw
i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first any suggestions looking at the schamatics the only thing it could be is the switch assembly. fix or replace it. -- steve ase master tech l1 diag currently residing at a subaru shop 4.5 years doing tires and alighnments .
From : tom lawrence
if it happens again i think ill jump the yellow and tan wires at the driver door module to bypass the lockout switch all together pg 8w-60-4. i suppose i could just replace the whole switch assembly but why thats what i was thinking about doing... ive got no need for the lock-out switch so if i cant clean up the switch contacts itll be no skin off my back to bypass it altogether. once i get around to it of course .
From : steven santinelli
mine is acting up as well..... i just did a quick search in google for it and it came back as $12.92 for the switch here http//www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.phpcarcode=1413414&parttype=4608&a=frc1413414k937616 i think ill probably breakdown and just get the new switch. just dont want to have to rip my door panel apart. steve i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first any suggestions .
From : christopher d thompson
on wed 05 mar 2008 172638 -0500 tom lawrence wrote and what about this monster shop you have!!!!! its gotten a lot smaller lately. i can barely fit the vehicles in there now. i need to seriously consider expanding it. my townships zoning office is probably going to have a fit over this. that thing was huge from the pics i seen how is it you got it full all the parts that came off the truck with upgrades -- chris .
From : fmb
i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first first question... what the hell are you doing with my truck! yeah ive got the same truck 03 3500 and the same problem. although with mine its somewhat intermittent. there isnt any relay... just a circuit breaker. and thats the same circuit breaker that powers all windows including the drivers. i think its poor contacts in the lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the other window switches. but - since 95% of the time im the only one in my truck its hard for me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it hey tom i had the same issue with my 2500. i pulled the switch assembly out and was going to pull it apart to actually see the individual switch that locks out the other windows but it wouldnt come apart easily and didnt want to break it. so after a little percussion maintenance smack on the table with a towel to protect the finish the switch seemed more stable to the vom and i reassembled it. after 5-6 months no problems. if it happens again i think ill jump the yellow and tan wires at the driver door module to bypass the lockout switch all together pg 8w-60-4. i suppose i could just replace the whole switch assembly but why fmb north mexico -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .
From : fmb
mine is acting up as well..... i just did a quick search in google for it and it came back as $12.92 for the switch here http//www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.phpcarcode=1413414&parttype=4608&a=frc1413414k937616 i think ill probably breakdown and just get the new switch. just dont want to have to rip my door panel apart. steve i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first any suggestions steven unfortunately the issue the op has wont be fixed with that $13 part. that is a door lock switch for the right-front door. just below that is window switches but only for the 3 doors that feed off the power from the drivers door switch. i couldnt see the drivers door switch assembly as being offered by rockauto. you can go to www.newmoparparts.com and drill down and see the actual switch assembly for the drivers door is $104 discounted to $83. this assembly holds all the switches in the drivers door and the one single switch in that assembly that seems to go bad is the switch that locks out the ability for passengers to control their own window. it locks out the other doors switches by turning off the power to those switches. that is great if you still have booger-pickers and curtain-climbers. for those of us that dont need this switch a simple wire jumper between the two wires going to that switch will act as an always enabled switch. that is the way ill go if the switch goes bad again. oh and that doesnt fix all problems some have issues with the connector 304 in the kick panel or splice 333 under the floor carpet. i hadnt heard many of those though. fmb north mexico -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .
From : tom lawrence
that thing was huge from the pics i seen how is it you got it full its just a fact of life a guys collection of stuff will always grow to consume all available storage and then some. tools tool chests benches parts carts parts bins shelving units etc. ive got to do a major re-organization this spring. i want to move some stuff out free up an area dedicated for metal-working i want to be able to leave my plasma cutter set up all the time - pita now to roll it out hook it all up just to cut a couple of gussets or something. i need to set up another dedicated area for the reloading bench/equipment/supplies way way far away from the plasma cutter sigh i need a bigger place... .
From : roy
that thing was huge from the pics i seen how is it you got it full its just a fact of life a guys collection of stuff will always grow to consume all available storage and then some. tools tool chests benches parts carts parts bins shelving units etc. ive got to do a major re-organization this spring. i want to move some stuff out free up an area dedicated for metal-working i want to be able to leave my plasma cutter set up all the time - pita now to roll it out hook it all up just to cut a couple of gussets or something. i need to set up another dedicated area for the reloading bench/equipment/supplies way way far away from the plasma cutter sigh i need a bigger place... face it tom ya gotta put on a addition. .
From : christopher d thompson
on fri 07 mar 2008 105114 -0500 tom lawrence wrote that thing was huge from the pics i seen how is it you got it full its just a fact of life a guys collection of stuff will always grow to consume all available storage and then some. tools tool chests benches parts carts parts bins shelving units etc. ive got to do a major re-organization this spring. i want to move some stuff out free up an area dedicated for metal-working i want to be able to leave my plasma cutter set up all the time - pita now to roll it out hook it all up just to cut a couple of gussets or something. i need to set up another dedicated area for the reloading bench/equipment/supplies way way far away from the plasma cutter sigh i need a bigger place... i know how that is but recently ive been downsizing my collection of stuff. especially now that we are in a 2 bed apartment from that 4 bed house i had. -- chris .
From : Annonymous
thanks a ton you are a lot more help than my local dodge dealer. i went and looked at the wiring diagram with the parts guy. he confirmed that it was a tan wire the hot lead and a yellow wire the relay that would be jumped but he said they had to be in the same wiring pod. my question then i have two wiring plugs for the master switch. the front one is smaller and he said that was only for the power mirrors but it is the only plug that has any yellow wires coming into it. it has three. a small yellow with black stripe not the one i want a small guage all yellow wire and larger guage all yellow wire. the rear plug has the only tan wire going into it and it is the heavier guage so i assume that is one of the wires to jump. can you tell me which yellow one btw the dealer said they sell a ton of these master switches and that it is always the lock out switch that is bad in them. on thu 6 mar 2008 205352 -0800 fmb fmb@sbcglobal.net wrote i have a problem with my 03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on the net said to check the relay first first question... what the hell are you doing with my truck! yeah ive got the same truck 03 3500 and the same problem. although with mine its somewhat intermittent. there isnt any relay... just a circuit breaker. and thats the same circuit breaker that powers all windows including the drivers. i think its poor contacts in the lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the other window switches. but - since 95% of the time im the only one in my truck its hard for me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it hey tom i had the same issue with my 2500. i pulled the switch assembly out and was going to pull it apart to actually see the individual switch that locks out the other windows but it wouldnt come apart easily and didnt want to break it. so after a little percussion maintenance smack on the table with a towel to protect the finish the switch seemed more stable to the vom and i reassembled it. after 5-6 months no problems. if it happens again i think ill jump the yellow and tan wires at the driver door module to bypass the lockout switch all together pg 8w-60-4. i suppose i could just replace the whole switch assembly but why fmb north mexico .
From : Annonymous
i know im sounding like a complete moron but where do you find the pin numbers on the 8 pin connector a yellow wire is on each end so whatever end is the end rather than the first pin is hard to tell. on the 12 pin connector the there is only one tan wire but it sits right in the middle so i am not sure how that gets to pin 9. on fri 7 mar 2008 201130 -0500 tom lawrence tlawrence5@earthlink.net wrote the rear plug has the only tan wire going into it and it is the heavier guage so i assume that is one of the wires to jump. can you tell me which yellow one you want to jumper the tan wire from pin 9 of the 12-pin connector to the yellow wire from pin 8 of the 8-pin connector .
From : tom lawrence
i know im sounding like a complete moron but where do you find the pin numbers on the 8 pin connector a yellow wire is on each end yeah... that would be the case wouldnt it. you want the thicker of the two the 14 gauge wire not the 20 gauge. for reference looking at the connector from the wire side locking tab on top pin #1 is the upper-left 4 is the upper-right 5 is lower-left and 8 is lower-right. the 12 pin connector the there is only one tan wire but it sits right in the middle so i am not sure how that gets to pin 9. again 1-6 on the top and 7-12 on the bottom. .
From : Annonymous
on fri 7 mar 2008 220550 -0500 tom lawrence tlawrence5@earthlink.net wrote i know im sounding like a complete moron but where do you find the pin numbers on the 8 pin connector a yellow wire is on each end yeah... that would be the case wouldnt it. you want the thicker of the two the 14 gauge wire not the 20 gauge. for reference looking at the connector from the wire side locking tab on top pin #1 is the upper-left 4 is the upper-right 5 is lower-left and 8 is lower-right. the 12 pin connector the there is only one tan wire but it sits right in the middle so i am not sure how that gets to pin 9. again 1-6 on the top and 7-12 on the bottom. perfect. thank you very much that was right on. did it and my passengers have their power windows back! again thank you. .
From : christopher d thompson
i sorta figure if the car/truck is a throw away way bother. roy roy is correct. all you are legally obligated to have is personal liability coverage in a specified minimum amount as determined by your state of residence. however in order to protect your own personal assets in event of an accident where you are at fault you are usually well-advised to carry far more than just state minimum. seems everyone these days is lawsuit happy. we carry $500000 liability coverage just for that reason. ----== posted via pro.com - unlimited-unrestricted-secure usenet ==---- http//www.pro.com the #1 group service in the world! 100000 groups ---= - total privacy via encryption =--- .
From : christopher d thompson
on sat 08 mar 2008 203605 +0000 theguy wrote on sat 08 mar 2008 202359 +0000 christopher d. thompson nospam@nospam.nospam wrote on sat 08 mar 2008 023814 -0500 tom lawrence wrote perfect. thank you very much that was right on. did it and my passengers have their power windows back! again thank you. wanna come over and do mine too ^ you might even get tom to let you use the garage........ gbmfg well........just from reading what he writes here i doubt hed let me near his truck. he seems to have a mechanics knack. me i have a a nack for messing up anything mechanical. but i did take my time with this jumper and i even used real connectors to jump it instead of a knife and electrical tape. lol glad you got it to work out for ya. and he did ask if you would do it for him *cheezy grin* -- chris .
From : Annonymous
what kind of mileage are you guys that have a wrangler seeing im considering selling the f350 since i am no longer living in the country and no longer have a call for it. im thinking of replacing it with a 4cyl or 4.0l 6 cyl wrangler depending on mileage reports. -- chris .