overdrive possible?
From : jim dobbs
Q: hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... jim .
Replies:
From : snoman
cool! i will get both the vin and remote pn tonight im at work and have the truck but not the remotes. -darren .
From : max dodge
on mon 17 apr 2006 074600 -0700 geekboy haha@hehe.com wrote and he could always put lower ratio axle gears. this is true only to a point because if the gearing is too tall for engine and load mpg will decrease further. no hard set universal rules here to go by. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : tom lawrence
got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig you mean a second overdrive like a gearvendors http//www.gearvendors.com or us gear http//www.usgear.com one of them makes a unit for a 4x4 - i forget which. be prepared to spend some cash... .
From : clare at snyder on ca
thanks a lot for the option sheet breakdown. i was curious it had limited slip guess so! -darren .
From : snoman
on tue 18 apr 2006 095509 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote never had a 64 225 slant six did you 37 mpg or a 79 318 d-150 21-23 mpg or a 68 road runner 17 around town and 23 highway ive never had a mopar that got bad mileage unless it was from a need for repair or a lead foot. my 76 318 ramcharger when i got it new could not get as much as 8mpg canadian. after fighting with the dealer for a month or two i redid the carb myself adjusting the power needle and all that stuff - got it up to over 23 on the highway about 14 in town and it just sipped gas plowing snow. the 264 or whatever in my fargo truck would do over 27 on the highway and the 241 hemi coronet topped 30 on occaision.my slant sixes generally did between 17 and 21 but i never babied those. the accelerator pedal was operated like a switch. *** posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com *** .
From : clare at snyder on ca
sounds like worn parts...rag joint/u-joint ball joints drag link tie rod steering gear etc. i dont know the steering components on this truck so sorry if i mention parts it doesnt have. to find the suspect components you can jack the front end and place it on jacksstands with the wheels free to turn secure the steering wheel the steering lock may not have enough strength to hold it and will have a little play so instead use a couple of lengths of rope to secure the steering wheel then push each wheel left and right and look for any freeplay in the steering components. having someone the help move the wheels while you look will greatly easy this diagnosis. i have a 92 dodge power ram 150 4x4. truck has 120000 miles and runs great. the steering has some play in it. going about 55 mph truck wants to wonder left to right. noticed that drivers side tire is a bit more wore than others. could it just need a front wheel aligament thanks .
From : clare at snyder on ca
code 0237 turbo boost sensor a circuit low what to do it does seem when the engine is cold the turbo charger does not seem to want to work very well till it is warmed up. going up steep hill the engine kinda jerks a little bit. only for a moment though. i am sure good ol tom lawrence will be able to advise me on this. bad sensor bad wire big $$$ at the stealership oh yeah 2000 ctd automatic. thanks gb .
From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net
on tue 18 apr 2006 141813 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on my d-150 being a 79 it lost the smog stuff got a 1972 360 degree two-barrel intake / carb and the vacuum curve was carefully set for full in at minimum vacuum without causing ping. the /6 had a mechanical advance recurve with 93 octane fuel and all the advance it could handle. the road runner got its best mileage whenever anyone but me drove it my mom especially but then i was but 21 years old at the time and gas was 35 cents / gal. us. runner had wide ratio 4 speed and the long gears 383 727 3.23 axle. lowered 1 in front belted f70-14 tires the original type of wynns friction proofing in the engine sunoco 260 and all the advanc it could handle. best quarter-mile 13.65 / 105 in second. friend still has his all original 69 runner with that equipment. driven right it would do high 20s on the highway. push it a bit and you could easily get 10. easily bury the needle in third. lol i saw 6300 rpm a couple times in mine. i usually shfted at 5800 during a run so the shift would be complete at 6000. second was good for 120 and high would bring the counterbalance end of the speedo needle to 30. man!!! what a ride!!!! budd *** posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com *** .
From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net
on tue 18 apr 2006 142941 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on tue 18 apr 2006 095509 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote never had a 64 225 slant six did you 37 mpg or a 79 318 d-150 21-23 mpg or a 68 road runner 17 around town and 23 highway these are not reality. yes they are. my personal values and religious beliefs forbid lying. the only maybe here is the 79 p/u the rest are way out they in left field. no they arent. btw with a bed cover the truck hit an alltime best of 25 mpg between laramie wy and moab ut . . .yep in the rocky mountains. i remember road runners were new and the mpg was about half than amount and how old were you and how far in the carbs did you stick your foot my mother and sister got the high mileage i got 11-14 except of friday nights whern i got 4-5 mpg for each 1/4 mile. and i owned a few slant sixs that strain to make low 20s a few times and a 170 valent that did 23 once but 37 mpg with a 225 is pure bull. no it isnt. chrysler got 27 mpg out of a bone stock slant in 63 in the mobilgas economy run on bias ply tires. mine had a few special mods and adjustments tight valve lash 0.008 in / 0.010 ex water vapor injection maximum intial advance 93 octane fuel steel beltradial tires @ 35 psi lowered 1 1/2 in front 3-speed manual trans with a 3.23 axle and 294000 miles on it. sounds like my 63 170 v200 custom 4 door. lowered about 2 all around hemi cuda shocks c70-13 polyglass tires head shaved 20 thou intakes at .005 exhaust at .010 adjusted religously dist recurved to roughly mimic the curve on the 273ho 225 carb rejetted and running nippondensoepr25 iirc plugs. the only other plugs i could keep in it were champion n3g fine-wires. mine had the 3 speed push button slush-box but put 206 hp to the rear wheels on sunoco 260. if driven hard the way i usually did it drank fuel at the rate of something like 12-14 mpg canadian. driven reasonably mabee twenty and the odd time i got it on the highway for a good run like down to letchworth newyork with some friends to keep me sane mid to high twenties. i may have squeezed 30 out of it once or twice. keep in mind this is the big canadian gallon - and an automatic. the imperial gallon is 20% larger than a us gallon so your twenty mpg imp. becomes 24 mpg us. ya should gone the whole route on the head 0.090 then your cr would have gone up a full point 9.41 and no valve interference with a stock lift cam. i had a 65 engine with the head milled the full amount and it ran great on 260. i used champion n-10y plugs with no problems. my 69 dart custom 225 was considerably milder and a mid-winter trip to alberta averaged in the high 20s including the 104mph dash across the corner of wyoming. car only got shut off once for more than an hour on the whole trip 3 drivers. overall mileage was mabee 22 average when around home - with 75000 or so miles on it when i got it and closer to 225000 when i sold it. that figures to 26.4 us mpg. i made a weekend trip once in my roadrunner from indianapolis in to nauvoo il. five adults weekend luggage 552 miles 6.7 hours 13.42 mpg. whatll really make the younger folks mad...gas costs for the trip west $13.95 us most of the time between towns i cruised at 115-120 mph. not bad mileage considering i had the secondaries carter avs open most of the time. budd *** posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com *** .
From : geekboy
hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... workers in the oil industry saying about rumors of $15 a gallon for fuel within 5 years. jim .
From : max dodge
a 96 2500 4x4 has od already. adding an additional od would be counterproductive. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... jim .
From : max dodge
funny i heard a rumor that exxon expects $20 a barrel for crude in the future. i guess ya never know. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... workers in the oil industry saying about rumors of $15 a gallon for fuel within 5 years. jim .
From : snoman
on sun 16 apr 2006 221507 -0500 jim dobbs jdobb@panhandle.org wrote hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... jim you already have od. if you are seriously concerned about mpg improvements lower it if it is lifted and run stock type smooth treaded tires at near max pressure as this will improve mpg more than adding another comound od which might actually make mpg even worse because it does not chamge the amount of power required to move truck down the road. it actually increases it slightly because of addition power losses in a second od unit because they are not 100% efficent. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : geekboy
funny i heard a rumor that exxon expects $20 a barrel for crude in the future. i guess ya never know. i really do not see how unless the us stops using oil all together. with china and india becoming more industrialized it will only get spread thinner. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... workers in the oil industry saying about rumors of $15 a gallon for fuel within 5 years. jim .
From : tbone
on tue 18 apr 2006 142941 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on tue 18 apr 2006 095509 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote never had a 64 225 slant six did you 37 mpg or a 79 318 d-150 21-23 mpg or a 68 road runner 17 around town and 23 highway these are not reality. yes they are. my personal values and religious beliefs forbid lying. the only maybe here is the 79 p/u the rest are way out they in left field. no they arent. btw with a bed cover the truck hit an alltime best of 25 mpg between laramie wy and moab ut . . .yep in the rocky mountains. i remember road runners were new and the mpg was about half than amount and how old were you and how far in the carbs did you stick your foot my mother and sister got the high mileage i got 11-14 except of friday nights whern i got 4-5 mpg for each 1/4 mile. and i owned a few slant sixs that strain to make low 20s a few times and a 170 valent that did 23 once but 37 mpg with a 225 is pure bull. no it isnt. chrysler got 27 mpg out of a bone stock slant in 63 in the mobilgas economy run on bias ply tires. mine had a few special mods and adjustments tight valve lash 0.008 in / 0.010 ex water vapor injection maximum intial advance 93 octane fuel steel beltradial tires @ 35 psi lowered 1 1/2 in front 3-speed manual trans with a 3.23 axle and 294000 miles on it. sounds like my 63 170 v200 custom 4 door. lowered about 2 all around hemi cuda shocks c70-13 polyglass tires head shaved 20 thou intakes at .005 exhaust at .010 adjusted religously dist recurved to roughly mimic the curve on the 273ho 225 carb rejetted and running nippondensoepr25 iirc plugs. the only other plugs i could keep in it were champion n3g fine-wires. mine had the 3 speed push button slush-box but put 206 hp to the rear wheels on sunoco 260. if driven hard the way i usually did it drank fuel at the rate of something like 12-14 mpg canadian. driven reasonably mabee twenty and the odd time i got it on the highway for a good run like down to letchworth newyork with some friends to keep me sane mid to high twenties. i may have squeezed 30 out of it once or twice. keep in mind this is the big canadian gallon - and an automatic. the imperial gallon is 20% larger than a us gallon so your twenty mpg imp. becomes 24 mpg us. sorry budd but you got your math backwards. if the imperial gallon is larger as you say then the mileage goes down when converted to us not up as he had 20% more fuel to obtain his mileage. take away 20% of the fuel and you take away 20% of the mileager so he was getting 16 mpg us which is about right for that engine under normal driving. ya should gone the whole route on the head 0.090 then your cr would have gone up a full point 9.41 and no valve interference with a stock lift cam. i had a 65 engine with the head milled the full amount and it ran great on 260. i used champion n-10y plugs with no problems. my 69 dart custom 225 was considerably milder and a mid-winter trip to alberta averaged in the high 20s including the 104mph dash across the corner of wyoming. car only got shut off once for more than an hour on the whole trip 3 drivers. overall mileage was mabee 22 average when around home - with 75000 or so miles on it when i got it and closer to 225000 when i sold it. that figures to 26.4 us mpg. no it doesnt! if he could get the same distance with his fuel usage in the same number of us gallons then he would have to be getting 26.4 mpg but that is not what happened. he was using imperial gallons at least for most of it. i made a weekend trip once in my roadrunner from indianapolis in to nauvoo il. five adults weekend luggage 552 miles 6.7 hours 13.42 mpg. whatll really make the younger folks mad...gas costs for the trip west $13.95 us most of the time between towns i cruised at 115-120 mph. not bad mileage considering i had the secondaries carter avs open most of the time. me thinks the bs is getting a bit deep. budd *** posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com *** .
From : clare at snyder on ca
anyone know if keyless entry was an standard/optional/available on the 1996 3500s my owners manual doesnt say anything about it and of course my truck didnt come with any pads bought used. if it was installed i have some old pads from a durango we owned. should be able to reprogram to open the new 3500 correct -darren .
From : geekboy
on sun 16 apr 2006 221507 -0500 jim dobbs jdobb@panhandle.org wrote hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... jim you already have od. if you are seriously concerned about mpg improvements lower it if it is lifted and run stock type smooth treaded tires at near max pressure as this will improve mpg more than adding another comound od which might actually make mpg even worse because it does not chamge the amount of power required to move truck down the road. it actually increases it slightly because of addition power losses in a second od unit because they are not 100% efficent. and he could always put lower ratio axle gears. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : geekboy
questions my first question is could this be an easy fix for me to do could i pick up a new or used tensioner and reattach it. probably but youll want to have someone with a bit more experience than you describe yourself as having work with you. do you think there was any additional damage done by driving it back home with the steering issues and the hose unattached depends on a number of things but if the distance was truly short and the guage never read hot you may have little or no problems. and if im able to reattach the tensioner and the hose and replace any lost fluids what should i do to a truck that hasnt been started in 8months change the oil. check around the engine for animal nests and such as they are a fire hazard. crank it over without starting it by pulling the coil wire. do this 2-3 times for about 10 seconds each. this should get oil up in the engine a bit plus itll allow you to hear if anything odd happens so you can stop cranking. if all goes well put the coil wire back on and fire it up. let it idle for a short period of time keeping an eye on everything. look for smoke or steam note the guages and see if they are sitting at normal levels. if all is well after about 3-5 minutes shut it down check the oil for level and contaminants. if its ok then fire it up and take a test drive around the block at low speed. from there assuming all is ok drive normally. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author background alright i have a dodge dakota v6 1991 that about 8 months ago aug. the belt tensioner broke off. when it did that i was able to drive it back home since it was just a short distance away. i noticed the steering was a little difficult to do but manageable seemed like turning it one direction was harder than the other and a small amount of steam coming from the hood just before i got home however the temp gage never showed hot. we got into one of the other cars and went back and picked up the tensioner so that we could make sure what had broken off. now i should point out that i am no mechanic ive never even changed my own oil. after letting the truck sit not really knowning what the piece was i finally decided to do some research and find out what had happened. apparently the bolt simply broke off of the tensioner and when that happened it must have been thrown downward with some force because it knocked a hose off the bottom of the radiator that led into the lower part of the engine. the hose had a spring inside it. questions my first question is could this be an easy fix for me to do could i pick up a new or used tensioner and reattach it. do you think there was any additional damage done by driving it back home with the steering issues and the hose unattached and if im able to reattach the tensioner and the hose and replace any lost fluids what should i do to a truck that hasnt been started in 8months im guessing oil change etc -- thanks -matt .
From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net
on mon 17 apr 2006 213606 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote gee is that all only 45 mpg ; by my estimates my old cushman will get around 65 -75 mpg when it hits the road and everyone knows the dependability of briggs engines. vbg -- budd cochran and that average goes up when you push it home! beekeep .
From : snoman
fmb wrote it seems like every other post this month is about a problem with a dakota. is it a new april 2006 bug induced problem dodge came out to withmake money ;- i kinda noticed it myself. makes me glad i gave the 93 dakota to my son he needs some spending experience about now. fmb my dodge dakota has been a lemon since new in 2002. jam .
From : bob
depends on a number of things but if the distance was truly short and the guage never read hot you may have little or no problems. the gauge never read hot because all his coolant dumped onto the street when the lower radiator hose came off... thats a $25000 epa fine on top of everything else are a fire hazard. crank it over without starting it by pulling the coil wire. do this 2-3 times for about 10 seconds each. and it wont hurt to shoot a little lube at the throttle linkage assembly on the throttle body before starting it. this is from past experience. my 95 had been sitting for a while. i got in turned the key and it fired right up. i went to rev the engine a bit and the throttle stuck wide-open. ah well - thats what rev limiters are for.... oh yeah except i had a performance computer with apparently no rev limiter cause the rpm jumped to a little over 5000 4000 redline on the v10. i immediately shut it off figured out what happend lubed the throttle linkage and tried it again.... worked much better the 2nd time bet that was a little unnerving to see that needle swing that far that fast = especially on the 8l makes my pocket book hurt just thinking about what could have happened *grin* -- -chris 05 ctd 99 durango .
From : clare at snyder on ca
jim dobbs wrote hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... jim possible yes. cost efficient doubtful. gear vendors sells an od unit for a 4x4. but its expensive. you would have to buy a lot of fuel and drive a lot of miles to make it pay off. the bottom line is a dodge is a pig. theres not much you can do to change that. the best thing you can do is make sure the truck is well tuned tires are properly inflated and go easy on the gas pedal. keep in mind a harley dyna gets 45 mpg ; -- ..bob arrived 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net
clare wrote keep in mind a harley dyna gets 45 mpg ; on a good day. every day on a harley is a good day -- ..bob arrived 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : bob
you probably have some worn front end parts ball joints tie rod ends ect. id check the front end for play in the joints or take it to a shop and have it checked out. -- -chris 05 ctd 99 durango i have a 92 dodge power ram 150 4x4. truck has 120000 miles and runs great. the steering has some play in it. going about 55 mph truck wants to wonder left to right. noticed that drivers side tire is a bit more wore than others. could it just need a front wheel aligament thanks .
From : beekeep
suddenly without warning napalmheart exclaimed 4/18/2006 1227 am it seems like every other post this month is about a problem with a dakota. is it a new april 2006 bug induced problem dodge came out to withmake money ;- i kinda noticed it myself. makes me glad i gave the 93 dakota to my son he needs some spending experience about now. fmb now im nervous. my 97 dakota has 190000 miles on it and its running fine. ken im not going to say anything lest it jinx my truck... jmc or did this count .
From : tbone
okay heres the info vin 3b7mf33w5tm114594 remote pn 04686481ac thanks -darren .
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From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net
never had a 64 225 slant six did you 37 mpg or a 79 318 d-150 21-23 mpg or a 68 road runner 17 around town and 23 highway ive never had a mopar that got bad mileage unless it was from a need for repair or a lead foot. -- budd cochran our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on mon 17 apr 2006 190933 -0600 .bob bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net wrote jim dobbs wrote hi folks got a 96 2500 4x4. is there any way to add an overdrive to this rig im hearing lots of noise about fuel prices getting ready to take off -- trying to find a way to squeeze a little better mileage.... jim possible yes. cost efficient doubtful. gear vendors sells an od unit for a 4x4. but its expensive. you would have to buy a lot of fuel and drive a lot of miles to make it pay off. the bottom line is a dodge is a pig. theres not much you can do to change that. the best thing you can do is make sure the truck is well tuned tires are properly inflated and go easy on the gas pedal. keep in mind a harley dyna gets 45 mpg ; while i
From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net
i posted a response to another thread earlier but i think that tread is dead so ill repost here someone said something about having one of those pennzoil drive in places fill your transmission fluid is a bad idea. something about them using the wrong kind and it can cause your truck to not want to go into over drive. can someone elaborate on this i have a dakota that has that issue every now and then. if this is the issue what do i need to do thanks -matt .
From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net
on my d-150 being a 79 it lost the smog stuff got a 1972 360 degree two-barrel intake / carb and the vacuum curve was carefully set for full in at minimum vacuum without causing ping. the /6 had a mechanical advance recurve with 93 octane fuel and all the advance it could handle. the road runner got its best mileage whenever anyone but me drove it my mom especially but then i was but 21 years old at the time and gas was 35 cents / gal. us. -- budd cochran on tue 18 apr 2006 095509 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote never had a 64 225 slant six did you 37 mpg or a 79 318 d-150 21-23 mpg or a 68 road runner 17 around town and 23 highway ive never had a mopar that got bad mileage unless it was from a need for repair or a lead foot. my 76 318 ramcharger when i got it new could not get as much as 8mpg canadian. after fighting with the dealer for a month or two i redid the carb myself adjusting the power needle and all that stuff - got it up to over 23 on the highway about 14 in town and it just sipped gas plowing snow. the 264 or whatever in my fargo truck would do over 27 on the highway and the 241 hemi coronet topped 30 on occaision.my slant sixes generally did between 17 and 21 but i never babied those. the accelerator pedal was operated like a switch. *** posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com *** *** posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com *** .