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From : rick myers
Q: had the same problem in my 2002 ram. after removing the two torx screws the taillight housing should swing to the left just a tad and then you can pull it straight out toward the rear of the truck. there are two pressure catches not sure of the correct term that are holding the left side of the taillight assembly to the vehicle. it feels it is going to break before it releases...but have no fear! my left rear turn signal is out. bought a bulb put the tailgate down removed the 2 screws behind the tailgate and the cover wont come off. what am i missing and how do i get to it truck does have a bedliner. .
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From : rick myers
not sure how much difference there is between a ram and dakota core replacement but mine just cost me 800 dollars for my dak. dealer did the work. if you take it to the dealer beware! when i got it home i smelled antifreeze outside of the truck i figured that the tech spilled some while filling it back up. the entire engine compartment was covered in antifreeze both fenders had a nice coating of it also. dont dealerships own a friggin hose! the front section of the center console was loose not secured back down. the rear section was loose. upon further checking the metal clips for the front section were missing and rather than remove the mounting screws it looked like he just pulled up on it and broke the plastic out around the screws. out of six screws that hold down the rear portion one was missing two were stripped out and loose the final two were barely hand tight. i found the clips on the floor and replaced them. fixed everthing else. im going to go over tomorrow evening and bitch about it to the service guy. not sure if it will do any good though. wayne - 2000 dak qc 4x4. .
From : tbone
it figures doesnt it about the time i get the p0307 misfire problem under control something else crops up. guessing id say i have a bad heater core. symptoms strong odor of antifreeze fumes inside the cab when the t-stat opens up. also windows fog up on the inside and the defroster only makes it worse. how big a job is this to tackle yourself whats involved about whats the going rate to have this repair replaced at a dealer or independent shop recommendations & ideas welcome. thanks!! .
From : rick myers
on mon 31 oct 2005 163011 -0500 rick myers crmyers@yadtel.net wrote i have a 1986 dodge 318 that is not getting any oil to the heads. are the pushrods in this engine supposed to have holes in them or does it oil some other way ive only worked on chevys until now. heres a trick you can try. drain the oil and refill with atf. let the engine idle for 15 to 20 minutes dont drive it and let the fluid disolve the oil sludge. drain the fluid and while the plug is out spray carberator cleaner on the oil pump intake screen if you can. change the oil filter and refill with oil. change the oil and filter in another week. beekeep .
From : tbone
do you disagree that an improprerly bled system is working improperly do you have proof that an improperly bled system cannot apply more pressure to a in this case static to bearing do you have proof that it can as you both know and are counting on it is impossible to prove a negative but since you seem to be now making the claim that it can happen a positive how about backing it up. both budd and i have seen cases where a hydraulic clutch system has applied the to bearing due to an improperly bled system. no you didnt. you saw a system that had other problems causing the to bearing to be applied due to expansion of the air in the system. ive seen cases where the master cylinder pushed air into the system the slave cylinder sucked air int othe system and where they both leaked. so what who said that could not happen and what does it have to do with air alone causing the to bearing to be applied you deny that these systems undergo reality based events by claiming what weve seen cant possibly happen. that is in no way what i said spinmaster. i said that air in the system alone could not cause the to to be applied. you made the claim that its impossible back it up. simple physics maxi such as equal and opposit reactions. the fluid or air in the system cannot apply pressure to slave unless it can apply and maintain equal pressure to the master and in an open system it cant. weve both merely suggested that odd things can happen despite what the sytem design may allow or safeguard against. could you possibly backspin any faster i dont have proof of many things that ive seen because i didnt sit there and say a group of jackasses will ask me about this in the future i better take pics put arrows and circles on them document it have it notorized and hermetically seal it so itll be fresh when i pull it out of the file cabinet. oh lol i see the people that dont agree with you are just a group of jackasses. what vehicles did you see this happen to and how did you fix them do you know every possible situation problem result solution to a hydraulic system resorting to the law of infinite possibilities now are we i must say max you do make me laugh. resortign to it hell nature does it all the time as do mechanical things. ive seen things happen that i cannot figure out why a certain problem caused it. i just know they are broken so i fix it and the odd event goes away. if you dont know what caused it then how exactly did you fix it sadly you seem to not have anywhere near the experience that a bunch of us do so you dont understand how strange some problems are and why those problems cause really odd things to happen. thats sad because you liek to come off like you know all the possible problems symptoms or solutions to any given situation. and like most humans there is no way you could you just dont want to admit it. get real max the only one here afraid to admit to error or not knowing between us is you. i never claimed to know everything but in this case i do know that air in the system cannot in itself apply pressure to the to bearing. if there are other problems then it could be a contributing factor to the to being applied but that is it. in this case where you think you know all there is to know about hydraulic systems on vehicles i know for sure youve never seen or tried to bleed a set of kelsey-hayes four piston calipers on an a-body mopar. if you had youd know that trapped air sometimes never finds its way out. and yes there is a reason for it. then i guess that these calipers could never be used on an a-body mopar becuae according to you and budd you would not get very far before that trapped air would expand due to the heat and lock the calipers lol. but hey feel free to think that there are no problems beyond what the text book and the fsm describe. i said no such thing spinmaster. i simply said that trapped air alone could not cause a failure of the to and nothing you have said yet proves that wrong. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : rick myers
on thu 3 nov 2005 174304 -0500 rick myers crmyers@yadtel.net wrote does the cam have to be in a certain position to feed oil to the heads from what i remeber yes. the hole in the camshaft has to line up with the hole in the bearing to suirt the oil into the gallery. .
From : budd cochran
g good point i missed that bit. -- budd cochran what are you needing and where is the lower mainland. .
From : budd cochran
ah in a normally functioning system . . . thats the key isnt it fyi that is not as normal an occurrence as many might think. thats the gist of it i dont think that anyone here denies that air entrappment in an already plugged up system might cause the problems you claim but your original post and subsequent posts make no mention of other problems. go back and read the thread. dont have to. i remember what i said. my mistake was in forgetting that not everyone remembers this is life reality not some textbook. your mistake was and still is claiming that bleeding air from the forklift system fixed the problem. since a malfunction other than air entrappment had to exist merely bleeding the system wouldnt eliminate the root problem. like i said and scott has said you werent there unless you were working at arvin industries inc. 1000 n. hurricane franklin indiana 46131 in 1972 on the night shift maintenance crew doing forklift repair / maintenance. were you nope but if i was i would probably have seen what else you unknowingly did besides bleeding to fix the problem. would you since i was doing a repair on a machine to be used to move equipment weighing up to 10.5 tons into position around my co-workers and friends as the crews installed the equipment dont you think i would have been quite thorough look back on this forum to the gent who experienced late upshifts after a simple band adjustment. those of us who understand transmission function realize that bands dont have anything to do with the road speed at which upshifts occur. the respondent correctly opined that in the process of band adjustment the tv cable adjustment must have been altered. so just like in your anecdotal account its as easy to suspect the band adjustment was the culprit as your suspicion that entrapped air was the sole problem. well john you admitted you werent there so you couldnt have seen the care i took or the time i spent flushing out the air. yet you presume to think you know exactly what happened. fine. just call me a liar and kill file me. -- budd cochran warning!!! poster still believes that intelligence logic common sense courtesy and religious beliefs are still important in our society and might include them in his posts. .
From : beekeep
nope sorry. last check up gave me the best bill of health in 10 years. ive even lost 45 pounds. i feel great. glad to hear it! better watch out my friend if i keep it up ill be built better than you. vvbg wow......i havent checked up on this thread in a few days. sorry to see the turns its taken. all ive done is try share some experience and to gain a bit of knowledge which seems to be denied to me and anyone else reading the thread. ........but im damn glad to hear youre doing great! maybe next spring youll head up this way for some fine fishin! i dont travel much anymore. my last trip was back to canon city co with my kid half- brother was last spring to pick up his 12 foot fishing boat. monarch pass 11312 fton u.s. 50 nearly got me with a lack of oxygen but i did some forced breathing deeper than normal inhalations but restricted flow on the exhalation a bit to force o2 into the membranes and got my self saturated again. budd .
From : budd cochran
yep. didnt i mention this sorry. the oil is supplied from the main bearings to the cam bearings thru drilled passages in the cam journals which have to properly line up to feed the rockers. -- budd cochran does the cam have to be in a certain position to feed oil to the heads rick the pump drive is a hex drive 5/16 across the flats iirc i made one out of a section of an old allen hex key wrench and a 5/16 steel rod brazed together. you need to pull the intermediate shaft out to get at it. i suggest you bring number one cylinder up on compression first then if you rotate the engine which you will if you want to check upper oiling make sure you bring it back to the same position before assembling the engine. in the proper position the distributor rotor will point toward number one cylinder. -- budd cochran -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on wed 02 nov 2005 001306 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote that would probably work and that would be a huge mistake. if the heads have been runny dry long enough to trash the rockers i would say that the seals and guides are pretty much toast as well. re-introducing oil flow at this time would probably result in turning the engine into a killer smoke bomb and make the vehicle undrivable. i would follow budds advice and look into a rebuild or if you do try this method have a set of rebuilt heads and gaskets ready as you may need them really soon. hey its worth a try isnt it the engine will be trash if oiling is not restored and there is a chance restoring oiling will solve the problem without causing it to smoke. would definitely not be the first one. i had a 65 rambler with the same problem that i figured was not worth dissassembling to fix so i fed oil to the rocker shaft with a piece of brake tube connected to a t at the oil pressure switch. shut up the squeaky rockers and no oil consumption problems. i made that mistake with my 62 ford falcon. that engine was notorious for it plugging up the oil feed to the head and when i got this one it was like that for a while. the rockers were so worn out from it they could barely open the valves. at first i just cranked back down on the adjusters to correct the valve lash and would pour stp over the rocker assembly once a week. since there was no oil flow there was no need to worry about the valve cover gasket so it was easy to do and the engine ran fine. after i gave the car to my father he decided to see if he could clear the clogged port and unfortunately we were successful. not only was the rocker assembly well lubricated there were no surviving mosquitoes for miles and the vehicle became close to useless. i would suggest that if the op wants to try this method he first remove the valve covers and with the engine running pour some hot oil over those rocker assemblies and see if it smokes. if not try beekeeps method to clear it and if successful just replace the rocker assembly in each head. if it does then he could still attempt this and if successful replace the heads. either way it will save money over a complete rebuild but the main problem would be that the engine could still have other problems due to possible neglect. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving is it possible to get push rods and lifters for this engine with the oil holes in them the heads are off getting a valve job done now. i can spin the oil pump with a screw driver buy hand and i get oil to the lifters. if i push all the lifters up in there bores i can feel the pump build pressure but nothing comes out of the holes to the heads. i can stick a wire in the holes and it goes all the way to the cam. i doubt that you could and even if you did it wouldnt work. you would never get enough lubrication to the rocker shafts that way if you could get any at all.and they might even cause an oil starvation problem to the mains and cam. you might not see any flow to the heads turning it by hand because you are not spinning the pump fast enough and are losing to much oil in the crank and cam bearings. buy or fabricate a drive shaft for the pump and spin it with a drill high powered slow speed to view proper operation before bolting the heads back on. the oil only comes up thru 1 port on each side. it is toward the rear on the right head second bracket from the rear on the head and the front on the left second bracket from the front on the head. i have been looking for a primer shaft but cant find one for a dodge. is the distributer gear pressed on the oil pump shaft .
From : Annonymous
fog lights just quit working the other day changed the bulbs after it happened and nothing from either side. any ideas on how to trace the problem check the fuse which is good its on a circuit with the radio lights and they are still working... headlight switch broke. to turn the fog lights on you pull the headlight knob out. whats happening in the switch is a little copper disc on the end of the shaft is pulled onto a land on the back of the circuit board completing the connection. this copper disc is held on to the end of the shaft by for lack of a better term a nylon rivet actually the shaft is necked down to a pin ran through the copper disc then sort of melted to retain the disc. that disc has come off the shaft and therefore you have no more fog lights. you can try carefully disassembling the switch and fixing the fog light portion... probably just easier to get a new switch. .
From : beekeep
i changed the starter in my 99 durango and it will not do anything i have checked the cables and connections and everything looks good. the battery is only about 3 months old. what else should i look at first - check your caps lock key... it appears to be stuck. next - check the starter relay in the pdc. does the common terminal #30 have +12vdc does the coil terminal #86 get power when the ignition is turned to start if you turn the ignition on and jumper #30 to #87 does the starter engage check the wiring to the starter solenoid... is it intact lastly - why was the old starter replaced was it bench-tested and verified that it was indeed bad or was it replaced because of this symptom .
From : budd cochran
i changed the starter in my 99 durango and it will not do anything i have checked the cables and connections and everything looks good. the battery is only about 3 months old. what else should i look at .
From : budd cochran
sorry. when it comes to discussion with tom b its often not a good idea to sneak up like that. think of what a pair of fighting pit bulls would be like to seperate . . . . . . nah not pit bulls. but i can think of a couple of more fitting examples. g roy .
From : rick myers
i never said that it was unaffected spin it any way you want tom but thats exactly what you said helium does not have enough density or atomic weight for the force of gravity on this planet to hold it down so it has no weight here. and you should be the last one to talk with your theory that an object in freefall has no weight. first its not my theory. secondly it appears that the physics professors over at mit agree with this theory http//ocw.mit.edu/ocwweb/physics/8-01physics-ifall1999/videolectures/detail/video-segment-index-for-l-7.htm if it had no weight it would not fall no tom.... it falls because gravity acts upon it. gravity acts upon it because it has mass. as i explained once before you can calculate the weight of an object under acceleration as follows weight is the product of mass times gravitational acceleration - the acceleration of the mass. .
From : budd cochran
i have a v6 4x4 i wonder if its the same tranny or it could be that they dont want to mess with it. thanks.. .
From : Annonymous
youre welcome. -- budd cochran warning!!! poster still believes that intelligence logic common sense courtesy and religious beliefs are still important in our society and might include them in his posts. thanks for the info. if its a daily driver then somethings been neglected like oil and oil filter changes. it appears you have sludge blocked passages. time for some r&r im afraid. -- budd cochran engine is in a daily driver that was running fine. it burned a valve and when i pulled the valve covers i found the oil problem. oil gets changed regularly. it has been running this way for a while because the rockers are badly worn and the heads and lifter gallery are dry. oil comes from the mains up to the rocker shaft stands. then thru the shafts to the rockers. what kind of general shape is the engine in lots of miles with few oil changes has it been sitting for a bunch of years -- budd cochran i have a 1986 dodge 318 that is not getting any oil to the heads. are the pushrods in this engine supposed to have holes in them or does it oil some other way ive only worked on chevys until now. .
From : beekeep
and youre saying that it doesnt move then i have an 02 4x4 5.9l. not that i need 4-low but i shift into it every month or so just to keep things moving. its like this stop. shift into neutral. click the dial over to 4-low. the transfer case clicks going into 4-high then louder going into 4-low. 4-low light comes on. shift back into drive. at that point if my foot isnt hard on the brake then the truck takes off. no wait and no slipping. perhaps somethings gummed up on yours and the dealer doesnt want to mess with it -rev .
From : bryan
i can ditto als post in my 03 2500. ive never had a problem. did it do it before the lift and oversized tires if it only does it after a bump i would suspect the shocks. also try changing the air pressure in the tires. john .
From : Annonymous
blah blah wrote your crossposted spam is not tolerated in the saturn group. you have been reported. end of discussion. such the hypocrite! you complain about crossposting and then do the same lol. good thing its end of discussion for ya. .
From : budd cochran
an improperly bled system has air in it. air any gas be it air or fluid vapor can expand and contract due to temperature and thus can allpy sic a small amount of pressure over designed pressure to the throwout bearing. do you disagree that an improprerly bled system is working improperly do you have proof that an improperly bled system cannot apply more pressure to a in this case static to bearing yes i disagree that air in the system when heated will apply more pressure to the to bearing. as i stated the system is open to the reservoir when the pedal is in the released position therefore any pressure buildup would merely push the fluid back into the reservoir rather than apply more pressure to the to bearing. my proof a simple observation of the system design. the reservoir must be exposed to the system when the pedal is up in order for the fluid to return; this is true in both the brake and clutch hydraulic system. unlike a hydraulic brake system where the reservoir must replenish fluid as the friction components wear clutch disc wear results in the pressure plate moving closer to the flywheel and the fingers in the pressure plate moving closer to the to bearing. if the system wasnt open to the reservoir the to bearing would be unable to displace the fluid as it moves away from the fingers. service manuals caution against overfilling the reservoir for this very reason; an overfull reservoir would result in the phenomenom you describe but overfull is not a normal condition. uh john the op was concerned about bearing wear in a system that wasnt normal . . . . for such systems normal is a range of specs and clearances to allow for some variations in operations. if the system is already out of spec then . . . . . . its pretty obvious that you know as little about clutch hydraulic systems as you do about transmission hydraulics. those schools you claim to have attended failed to instill basic concepts that any high school auto shop student learns. in my case it was learned at the school of hard knocks. . . ojt. so i had to analyze and correct usually without the aid of an instructor or even a manual. but it also meant i had to do trial and error testing and then determine the benefit or hindrance of each step. do you know every possible situation problem result solution to a hydraulic system no but i do understand the operation of a normally functioning system and in a normally functioning system the phenomenom that you claim occurs is impossible. ah in a normally functioning system . . . thats the key isnt it fyi that is not as normal an occurrence as many might think. of course a malfunctioning system can cause any number of problems but the phenomenon that you claim will occur in a system whose only abnormality is air entreapment is total nonsense. now youre getting the hang of it. if not maybe its time to sit back and accept that weird things do happen. yes weird things happen but your chosen happening wont happen. yes it can because the system is already not in spec. the clue the worn bearing. typical whining from you. time to shut up like you had been for a couple of months. as usual pointing out rabid examples of bullshit is construed by you as whining. go back to school. john do you believe the history books are dead accurate just for kicks read bury my heart at wounded knee and see the history of the west from lakota eyes. my point neither you nor tom b. realize that not everything follows the rules. budd .
From : tbone
tbonenospam@nc.rr.com writes you should not have fixed it first and dont just yell at the guy or he will do nothing for you. i agree. if theres a problem with any job ever take it back and show the dealer why youre unhappy. but fix it yourself first then bitch and you come off as a crank customer and its only your word against theirs. with a/c the $800 for r&r of the heater core seems to be about the going rate; theres a ton of labor time involved due to having to r&r almost the entire dash. the core itself is around $200 then theres a charge for replacing the refrigerant. even with the right tools and know-how im finding out its easily a 5 to 6 hr job. by butchering the dash they can save about an hour and a half but still bill you for the std. flat rate charge. that way the dealership makes more and so does the line tech because the sooner they get yours done the sooner they can go to work on gouging someone else. over the years i have managed to acquire an immense distaste for dealerships for this very reason. once out of warranty it has to be something very specialized and uniquely compelling for me to ever go back to the dealer. chryco ford chevy toyota fiat etc. yes even lexus; theyre all the same. once its out of warranty youre like a tender young lamb going to visit the big bad wolf. the damn service writers are all on the take. the more unnecessary services they can sell you to embellish the job the greater their commission. sad to say but theres also no shortage of shoddy workmanship even at dealerships. at currently prevailing labor rates its inexcusable. as long as you tolerate it they will not change. .
From : rick myers
no you didnt. you saw a system that had other problems causing the to bearing to be applied due to expansion of the air in the system. now you are telling me what i saw thats presumptuous on your part dont ya think not at all. youmsaw what you saw and i am telling you what it really was. ive seen cases where the master cylinder pushed air into the system the slave cylinder sucked air int othe system and where they both leaked. so what who said that could not happen and what does it have to do with air alone causing the to bearing to be applied well i thought the part where i stated that air got pushed into the system or sucked into the system might be an indication. no surprise that you would miss it though. if the air got pushed or sucked into the system then why didnt it leave the same way either way the air getting into the system shows that you have real problems and the trapped air is a symptom not the problem itself. that is in no way what i said spinmaster. i said that air in the system alone could not cause the to to be applied. and you would be wrong. trapped air could press the to bearing against the clutch fingers causing a higher than normal rate of wear. how much higher depends on many factors. i think ive said that before right and you were wrong there as well. the only way that any pressure could back up is if something else was not functioning properly and that would be your real problem with the trapped air being nothing more than a contributing factor. simple physics maxi such as equal and opposit reactions. the fluid or air in the system cannot apply pressure to slave unless it can apply and maintain equal pressure to the master and in an open system it cant. prove that every system works in reality as youve described. please define every system. as for the laws of physics i dont have to prove them that was already done or they would not be called laws. weve both merely suggested that odd things can happen despite what the sytem design may allow or safeguard against. could you possibly backspin any faster its the same thing i said at the beginning of your idiotic rant on this topic. and it is nothing more than backspin. the system is really simple and because of that there really isnt that much that can actually go wrong unless of course one of the components has failed. didnt i say this already oh lol i see the people that dont agree with you are just a group of jackasses. what vehicles did you see this happen to and how did you fix them no just you and john are jackasses most other people actually have reasons for disagreeing with me. oh gee im really hurt now. resortign to it hell nature does it all the time as do mechanical things. ive seen things happen that i cannot figure out why a certain problem caused it. i just know they are broken so i fix it and the odd event goes away. if you dont know what caused it then how exactly did you fix it youll notice above that i knew what the problem was it simply was causing a symptom that was highly unusual. rather than spend time trying to figure out the oddity i fixed the problem and the oddity went away. its called focussing on the problem rather than wasting time. iow just swap the parts and hope for the best. yea great mechanic there. get real max the only one here afraid to admit to error or not knowing between us is you. do i have to mention the weight of helium as an example of how wrong that last statement was lol the fact that you did mention it shows how weak your argument here really is. what does the weight or lack of it of helium have to do with the subject at hand. oh thats right not a damn thing. i never claimed to know everything but in this case i do know that air in the system cannot in itself apply pressure to the to bearing. if there are other problems then it could be a contributing factor to the to being applied but that is it. well youre wrong. no im not but if you think so back it up and like john said dont be afraid to get real technical. if i get lost by your brilliant explanation ill ask one of the more technical posters in here for help. then i guess that these calipers could never be used on an a-body mopar becuae according to you and budd you would not get very far before that trapped air would expand due to the heat and lock the calipers lol. i never claimed the air would lock the caliper nor did i claim it would disengage the clutch. it will cause a slight application which would wear the to bearing more than normal and does wear these brakes faster than the design that replaced them. but that makes no valid sense there max. if what you and budd are saying is valid then as they got warmer they would apply pressure which would get them warmer still causing them to apply even more pressure which would get them warmer still
From : tbone
you should not have fixed it first and dont just yell at the guy or he will do nothing for you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving not sure how much difference there is between a ram and dakota core replacement but mine just cost me 800 dollars for my dak. dealer did the work. if you take it to the dealer beware! when i got it home i smelled antifreeze outside of the truck i figured that the tech spilled some while filling it back up. the entire engine compartment was covered in antifreeze both fenders had a nice coating of it also. dont dealerships own a friggin hose! the front section of the center console was loose not secured back down. the rear section was loose. upon further checking the metal clips for the front section were missing and rather than remove the mounting screws it looked like he just pulled up on it and broke the plastic out around the screws. out of six screws that hold down the rear portion one was missing two were stripped out and loose the final two were barely hand tight. i found the clips on the floor and replaced them. fixed everthing else. im going to go over tomorrow evening and bitch about it to the service guy. not sure if it will do any good though. wayne - 2000 dak qc 4x4. .
From : budd cochran
i ment that it was entertaining to read. chris wrong its mass and in a gravity well such as a planet surface a mass has weight is twice that roughly of hydrogen. -- budd cochran warning!!! poster still believes that intelligence logic common sense courtesy and religious beliefs are still important in our society and might include them in his posts. do a google serch on helieum has no weight and youll see....big long discussion was really quite good chris lol when did helium go on a diet -- budd cochran im sorry we keep forgetting that if t-bone says it cant happen then it cant happen. yup and helium has no weight. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. im sorry we keep forgetting that if t-bone says it cant happen then it cant happen. what were we thinking . . . we must remember that tom is the worlds greatest living mechanic and knows all sees all and it cant happen unless he wills it. like how you fixed your ford tom btw what year ford was that -- budd cochran warning!!! poster still believes that intelligence logic common sense courtesy and religious beliefs are still important in our society and might include them in his posts. do you disagree that an improprerly bled system is working improperly do you have proof that an improperly bled system cannot apply more pressure to a in this case static to bearing do you have proof that it can as you both know and are counting on it is impossible to prove a negative but since you seem to be now making the claim that it can happen a positive how about backing it up. both budd and i have seen cases where a hydraulic clutch system has applied the to bearing due to an improperly bled system. no you didnt. you saw a system that had other problems causing the to bearing to be applied due to expansion of the air in the system. ive seen cases where the master cylinder pushed air into the system the slave cylinder sucked air int othe system and where they both leaked. so what who said that could not happen and what does it have to do with air alone causing the to bearing to be applied you deny that these systems undergo reality based events by claiming what weve seen cant possibly happen. that is in no way what i said spinmaster. i said that air in the system alone could not cause the to to be applied. you made the claim that its impossible back it up. simple physics maxi such as equal and opposit reactions. the fluid or air in the system cannot apply pressure to slave unless it can apply and maintain equal pressure to the master and in an open system it cant. weve both merely suggested that odd things can happen despite what the sytem design may allow or safeguard against. could you possibly backspin any faster i dont have proof of many things that ive seen because i didnt sit there and say a group of jackasses will ask me about this in the future i better take pics put arrows and circles on them document it have it notorized and hermetically seal it so itll be fresh when i pull it out of the file cabinet. oh lol i see the people that dont agree with you are just a group of jackasses. what vehicles did you see this happen to and how did you fix them do you know every possible situation problem result solution to a hydraulic system resorting to the law of infinite possibilities now are we i must say max you do make me laugh. resortign to it hell nature does it all the time as do mechanical things. ive seen things happen that i cannot figure out why a certain problem caused it. i just know they are broken so i fix it and the odd event goes away. if you dont know what caused it then how exactly did you fix it sadly you seem to not have anywhere near the experience that a bunch of us do so you dont understand how strange some problems are and why those problems cause really odd things to happen. thats sad because you liek to come off like you know all the possible problems symptoms or solutions to any given situation. and like most humans there is no way you could you just dont want to admit it. get real max the only one here afraid to admit to error or not knowing between us is you. i never claimed to know everything but in this case i do know that air in the system cannot in itself apply pressure to the to bearing. if there are other problems then it could be a contributing factor to the to being applied but that is it. in this case where you think you know all there is to know about hydraulic systems on vehicles i know for sure youve never seen or tried to bleed a set of kelsey-hayes four piston calipers on an a-body mopar. if you had youd know that trapped air sometimes never finds its way out.
From : rick myers
hiagainbig ali asked about the sending unit on a 1986dodge pickup 2wheel drive360engine30 gal gas tankis plastici have tank offand sending unit out of tankthe sock is not roundits flat but i think it was round at one timeat the bottom of unit there is a black rubber about 21/2 longthere are 2 wires going to iti can see what looks like little bladesi can turn themis suppose to run when you turn the key on would it then suck gas into gas line thanks for the helpdo you know where i can find a sending unitfor this dodgethanks again for the help and your timelouie jerry@midrivers.com .
From : budd cochran
do you disagree that an improprerly bled system is working improperly do you have proof that an improperly bled system cannot apply more pressure to a in this case static to bearing do you have proof that it can as you both know and are counting on it is impossible to prove a negative but since you seem to be now making the claim that it can happen a positive how about backing it up. both budd and i have seen cases where a hydraulic clutch system has applied the to bearing due to an improperly bled system. ive seen cases where the master cylinder pushed air into the system the slave cylinder sucked air int othe system and where they both leaked. you deny that these systems undergo reality based events by claiming what weve seen cant possibly happen. you made the claim that its impossible back it up. weve both merely suggested that odd things can happen despite what the sytem design may allow or safeguard against. i dont have proof of many things that ive seen because i didnt sit there and say a group of jackasses will ask me about this in the future i better take pics put arrows and circles on them document it have it notorized and hermetically seal it so itll be fresh when i pull it out of the file cabinet. do you know every possible situation problem result solution to a hydraulic system resorting to the law of infinite possibilities now are we i must say max you do make me laugh. resortign to it hell nature does it all the time as do mechanical things. ive seen things happen that i cannot figure out why a certain problem caused it. i just know they are broken so i fix it and the odd event goes away. sadly you seem to not have anywhere near the experience that a bunch of us do so you dont understand how strange some problems are and why those problems cause really odd things to happen. thats sad because you liek to come off like you know all the possible problems symptoms or solutions to any given situation. and like most humans there is no way you could you just dont want to admit it. in this case where you think you know all there is to know about hydraulic systems on vehicles i know for sure youve never seen or tried to bleed a set of kelsey-hayes four piston calipers on an a-body mopar. if you had youd know that trapped air sometimes never finds its way out. and yes there is a reason for it. but hey feel free to think that there are no problems beyond what the text book and the fsm describe. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. .