mpg drop and loss of umph.
From : jmc
Q: my truck recently had a massive mpg drop - from almost 17mpg down to just a tad over 13mpg and i was noticing today that its lacking in power too - used to practically create g-forces when i accelerate now its decidedly sluggish. id written off the mpg change to the opal gas were forced to use in our vehicles here in central australia dont get me started -grr- but in short opal is unsniffable. it also destroys engines built before about 1986 but is *supposed* to be safe for newer vehicles anyway someone told me it could just be that i have a fouled spark. quite possible havent touched the sparks since i got the vehicle for those who dont know me 2001 dakota 4x4 4.7l v8. is that the most likely reason is there anything else i should be looking at i dont have a spark puller so ill likely drop it off at the mechanics. i needed to take it in anyway for pm before we go on our massive quasi-4x4 odyssey across the australian outback to the coast. thanks as always for any advice. jmc .
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From : fmb
my truck recently had a massive mpg drop - from almost 17mpg down to just a tad over 13mpg and i was noticing today that its lacking in power too - used to practically create g-forces when i accelerate now its decidedly sluggish. id written off the mpg change to the opal gas were forced to use in our vehicles here in central australia dont get me started -grr- but in short opal is unsniffable. it also destroys engines built before about 1986 but is *supposed* to be safe for newer vehicles anyway someone told me it could just be that i have a fouled spark. quite possible havent touched the sparks since i got the vehicle for those who dont know me 2001 dakota 4x4 4.7l v8. is that the most likely reason is there anything else i should be looking at i dont have a spark puller so ill likely drop it off at the mechanics. i needed to take it in anyway for pm before we go on our massive quasi-4x4 odyssey across the australian outback to the coast. thanks as always for any advice. jmc iirc when that happened to my 93 dakota it was the o2 sensor. changed it out and back to normal. im not sure about the 01 if it sets a code or not or how many there are. tom or mike will help out im sure. good luck on your odyssey and take more photos. fmb north mexico .
From : roy
my truck recently had a massive mpg drop - from almost 17mpg down to just a tad over 13mpg and i was noticing today that its lacking in power too - used to practically create g-forces when i accelerate now its decidedly sluggish. id written off the mpg change to the opal gas were forced to use in our vehicles here in central australia dont get me started -grr- but in short opal is unsniffable. it also destroys engines built before about 1986 but is *supposed* to be safe for newer vehicles anyway someone told me it could just be that i have a fouled spark. quite possible havent touched the sparks since i got the vehicle for those who dont know me 2001 dakota 4x4 4.7l v8. is that the most likely reason is there anything else i should be looking at i dont have a spark puller so ill likely drop it off at the mechanics. i needed to take it in anyway for pm before we go on our massive quasi-4x4 odyssey across the australian outback to the coast. thanks as always for any advice. jmc iirc when that happened to my 93 dakota it was the o2 sensor. changed it out and back to normal. im not sure about the 01 if it sets a code or not or how many there are. tom or mike will help out im sure. good luck on your odyssey and take more photos. fmb north mexico could very well be the sensor. i also wonder about the plugs. six year and how many miles that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. .
From : snoman
on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. if it is a blended fuel with a lower btu content mpg will drop and changing plug heatrange is not going to help this unless they are loading up badly and fouling. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : roy
on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : azwiley1
on apr 3 851 am roy r...@home.net wrote on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yes we do roy its roo piss! .
From : jmc
suddenly without warning azwiley1 exclaimed 04-apr-07 218 am on apr 3 851 am roy r...@home.net wrote on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yes we do roy its roo piss! just about. regular fuel was ok though higher octane than my truck is supposed to get - manual says 87 its been getting 91-93 octane for years now was in england before. now because sniffing petrol has become such a problem with the younger generation were forced to use opal. its a fact that opal damages older vehicles. the proponents insist that it doesnt damage newer engines but who knows its a very political thing. so im stuck with a not very palatable choice 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. roy what do you mean change in heat range jmc .
From : azwiley1
on apr 3 214 pm jmc nogroupss...@nojodibody.homeus wrote suddenly without warning azwiley1 exclaimed 04-apr-07 218 am on apr 3 851 am roy r...@home.net wrote on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yes we do roy its roo piss! just about. regular fuel was ok though higher octane than my truck is supposed to get - manual says 87 its been getting 91-93 octane for years now was in england before. now because sniffing petrol has become such a problem with the younger generation were forced to use opal. its a fact that opal damages older vehicles. the proponents insist that it doesnt damage newer engines but who knows its a very political thing. so im stuck with a not very palatable choice 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. roy what do you mean change in heat range jmc- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - i have never heard of a vehicle getting damaged from a higher octane level. not to say that it couldnt happen but i ran 93 premium in my 97 ram 5.2l all the time and never had a problem with it. i cuurently run on occasion 93 or 87 with octane boost sometimes once in a very rare instance both in my cheby and never had a problem. .
From : leythos
on tue 03 apr 2007 180610 +0930 jmc wrote anyway someone told me it could just be that i have a fouled spark. quite possible havent touched the sparks since i got the vehicle for those who dont know me 2001 dakota 4x4 4.7l v8. i just traded in my 2001 dakota quad 4x4 4.7v8 magnum and had that problem once it was the wires. i replaced the sparkplug wires and found that one a burned opened at the base where the metal snap ring meets the plug and the cable. checking the others it was about 80k at the time they were showing signs of wear. replacing the wires with quality ones fixed it. -- leythos spam999free@rrohio.com remove 999 for proper email address .
From : snoman
on wed 04 apr 2007 064433 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. i do not know the exact formulation of opal fuel but no engine has ever been damaged by using 91 or 93 octane in it and any one that tries to tell you otherwise is purely bs-ing you. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : azwiley1
on wed 04 apr 2007 064433 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. i do not know the exact formulation of opal fuel but no engine has ever been damaged by using 91 or 93 octane in it and any one that tries to tell you otherwise is purely bs-ing you. wow! .
From : chris thompson
on wed 04 apr 2007 203727 -0400 roy wrote trying to get things in order here so i can head south for a bit. what route you gonna be taking through ga -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : roy
on wed 04 apr 2007 203727 -0400 roy wrote trying to get things in order here so i can head south for a bit. what route you gonna be taking through ga ill be on i-95. stopping probably at exit 3 to top off. fl gas is usually a lot higher than ga. chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : roy
suddenly without warning azwiley1 exclaimed 04-apr-07 218 am on apr 3 851 am roy r...@home.net wrote on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yes we do roy its roo piss! just about. regular fuel was ok though higher octane than my truck is supposed to get - manual says 87 its been getting 91-93 octane for years now was in england before. now because sniffing petrol has become such a problem with the younger generation were forced to use opal. its a fact that opal damages older vehicles. the proponents insist that it doesnt damage newer engines but who knows its a very political thing. so im stuck with a not very palatable choice 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my t
From : beryl
roy wrote suddenly without warning azwiley1 exclaimed 04-apr-07 218 am on apr 3 851 am roy r...@home.net wrote on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yes we do roy its roo piss! just about. regular fuel was ok though higher octane than my truck is supposed to get - manual says 87 its been getting 91-93 octane for years now was in england before. now because sniffing petrol has become such a problem with the younger generation were forced to use opal. its a fact that opal damages older vehicles. the proponents insist that it doesnt damage newer engines but who knows its a very political thing. so im stuck with a not ve
From : azwiley1
on apr 4 1206 pm beryl terra...@coolmail.com wrote azwiley1 on wed 04 apr 2007 064433 +0930 jmc nogroupss...@nojodibody.homeus wrote 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. i do not know the exact formulation of opal fuel but no engine has ever been damaged by using 91 or 93 octane in it and any one that tries to tell you otherwise is purely bs-ing you. wow! almost punkin. you gotta do it like big roy showed you wow!! thats all just wow!! http//groups.google.co.in/group/alt.trucks.ford/msg/4a7e97bd292b6499 -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - you need to get fucked get a life and stop interjecting your troll vomit where you are not welcome. you are a fucking waste of space and o2 and are only trying to start shit again you fucking cum breathed cock sucker .
From : beryl
1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni . 222 332775 1317tmlcnqpa8ac@corp.super.com azwiley1 on wed 04 apr 2007 064433 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. i do not know the exact formulation of opal fuel but no engine has ever been damaged by using 91 or 93 octane in it and any one that tries to tell you otherwise is purely bs-ing you. wow! almost punkin. you gotta do it like big roy showed you wow!! thats all just wow!! http//groups.google.co.in/group/alt.trucks.ford/msg/4a7e97bd292b6499 -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .
From : azwiley1
roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks of course but if you find that one or two are fouled was pretty useless. waiting for your suggestion to solve the ops problem. ok. i suggest that he compare the spark plugs he looks at with the pictures and descriptions at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html. but keep waiting i can suggest it a 3rd time. i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! .
From : beryl
azwiley1 wrote roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks of course but if you find that one or two are fouled was pretty usel
From : chris thompson
on thu 05 apr 2007 230922 +0000 beekeep wrote on thu 05 apr 2007 172417 -0400 chris thompson kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net wrote ill be on i-95. stopping probably at exit 3 to top off. fl gas is usually a lot higher than ga. thats because ga doesnt waste money mowing along the sholders building comfort stations repairing roads............. beekeep who needs comfort stations...theres a seat in your car! and grass in ga is required to be cut before its 5 foot tall! we do fix the dirt roads actually the road system here isnt that bad. ive seen much much worse. but yea not that many rest areas. some states seem to have them every 5 miles. does ga have any along i-95 ill admit its been awhile since i have been through there but i donr remember any. beekeep too tell you the truth i dont know its been a long time since i was on i95 not a road i use much as im not on that side of ga. i75 i475 and i16 are my neck of the woods. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : roy
roy wrote suddenly without warning azwiley1 exclaimed 04-apr-07 218 am on apr 3 851 am roy r...@home.net wrote on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yes we do roy its roo piss! just about. regular fuel was ok though higher octane than my truck is supposed to get - manual says 87 its been getting 91-93 octane for years now was in england before. now because sniffing petrol has become such a problem with the younger generation were forced to use opal. its a fact that opal damages older vehicles. the proponents insist that it doesnt damage newer engines but who knows its a very political thing. so im stuck with a not very palatable choice 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks .
From : Annonymous
on wed 4 apr 2007 174853 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote roy wrote suddenly without warning azwiley1 exclaimed 04-apr-07 218 am on apr 3 851 am roy r...@home.net wrote on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yes we do roy its roo piss! just about. regular fuel was ok though higher octane than my truck is supposed to get - manual says 87 its been getting 91-93 octane for years now was in england before. now because sniffing petrol has become such a problem with the younger generation were forced to use opal. its a fact that opal damages older vehicles. the proponents insist that it doesnt damage newer engines but who knows its a very political thing. so im stuck with a not very palatable choice 1. fuel with opal and take the chance ill damage my truck 2. fuel with premium and take the chance per my truck manual that ill damage my truck 3. leave my truck in the drive for the remainder of our tour. roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks now roy it would seem that you have a new friend. think of him sort of like a dog......you know following you around every where you go........scootin his ass across the floor.....lookin like the fool that he is. .
From : azwiley1
on apr 4 402 pm the...@whatever.net wrote on wed 4 apr 2007 174853 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote roy wrote suddenly without warning azwiley1 exclaimed 04-apr-07 218 am on apr 3 851 am roy r...@home.net wrote on tue 3 apr 2007 073204 -0400 roy r...@home.net wrote that coupled with a questionable gas that might require a change in heat range from what is in it. unless they are loading up badly and fouling. that is my point. the truck is in aussie land so we dont know what the fuel is. ----------------- thesnoman.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yes we do roy its roo piss! just about. regular fuel was ok though higher octane than my truck is supposed to get - manual says 87 its been getting 91-93 octane for years now was in england before. now because sniffing petrol has become such
From : roy
on apr 3 1012 pm jasoncr...@gmail.com wrote i have a 2004 ram 1500 with the hemi engine. recently when it idles below 750 rpms it stalls. it only usually happends when i am slowing down and have let off the gas. i also have noticed that when sitting stationary it idles at exactly 500 rpms. this seems low and may contribute to why when it drops below 750rpms and slows it will stall out. any ideas what could be causing this. clean the throttle body carbon builds up around the butterflies and slowly and closes the .010 gap that should be there. once cleaned good you can use brake cleaner and a rag you should notice a crisper throttle response as well. my 97 sport did the same thing for a couple of months i was waisting money replacing map sensors tps sensors o2 sensors with no resolution until someone told me to clean my throttle body bingo .
From : beryl
roy wrote roy wrote roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks of course but if you find that one or two are fouled was pretty useless. -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .
From : roy
roy wrote roy wrote roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks of course but if you find that one or two are fouled was pretty useless. waiting for your suggestion to solve the ops problem. .
From : chris thompson
on thu 05 apr 2007 161810 +0000 beekeep wrote on thu 5 apr 2007 085131 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on wed 04 apr 2007 203727 -0400 roy wrote trying to get things in order here so i can head south for a bit. what route you gonna be taking through ga ill be on i-95. stopping probably at exit 3 to top off. fl gas is usually a lot higher than ga. thats because ga doesnt waste money mowing along the sholders building comfort stations repairing roads............. beekeep who needs comfort stations...theres a seat in your car! and grass in ga is required to be cut before its 5 foot tall! we do fix the dirt roads actually the road system here isnt that bad. ive seen much much worse. but yea not that many rest areas. some states seem to have them every 5 miles. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : beekeep
on thu 5 apr 2007 085131 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on wed 04 apr 2007 203727 -0400 roy wrote trying to get things in order here so i can head south for a bit. what route you gonna be taking through ga ill be on i-95. stopping probably at exit 3 to top off. fl gas is usually a lot higher than ga. thats because ga doesnt waste money mowing along the sholders building comfort stations repairing roads............. beekeep .
From : roy
on thu 5 apr 2007 085131 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on wed 04 apr 2007 203727 -0400 roy wrote trying to get things in order here so i can head south for a bit. what route you gonna be taking through ga ill be on i-95. stopping probably at exit 3 to top off. fl gas is usually a lot higher than ga. thats because ga doesnt waste money mowing along the sholders building comfort stations repairing roads............. beekeep south carolina does and the gas is pretty cheap. .
From : chris thompson
on thu 05 apr 2007 130417 -0400 roy wrote on thu 5 apr 2007 085131 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on wed 04 apr 2007 203727 -0400 roy wrote trying to get things in order here so i can head south for a bit. what route you gonna be taking through ga ill be on i-95. stopping probably at exit 3 to top off. fl gas is usually a lot higher than ga. thats because ga doesnt waste money mowing along the sholders building comfort stations repairing roads............. beekeep south carolina does and the gas is pretty cheap. so does ga too despite the sarcasm used in previous post. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : beekeep
on thu 05 apr 2007 172417 -0400 chris thompson kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net wrote ill be on i-95. stopping probably at exit 3 to top off. fl gas is usually a lot higher than ga. thats because ga doesnt waste money mowing along the sholders building comfort stations repairing roads............. beekeep who needs comfort stations...theres a seat in your car! and grass in ga is required to be cut before its 5 foot tall! we do fix the dirt roads actually the road system here isnt that bad. ive seen much much worse. but yea not that many rest areas. some states seem to have them every 5 miles. does ga have any along i-95 ill admit its been awhile since i have been through there but i donr remember any. beekeep .
From : jmc
suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 05-apr-07 718 am roy wrote roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks thanks for the info roy and beryl thanks for the link. it is useful. just gotta beg borrow or steal a spark puller and have a look. gotta change my oil too if i can reach the darn filter! fortunately its finally cooled off down into the high eighties here so its bearable to be out working on the truck. or rather pretending to since everything i know pretty much ive learned here. take that however you want to jmc .
From : azwiley1
i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong .
From : roy
azwiley1 wrote roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks of course but if you find that one or two are fouled was pretty useless. waiting for your suggestion to solve the ops problem. ok. i suggest that he compare the spark plugs he looks at with the pictures and descriptions at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html. but keep waiting i can suggest it a 3rd time. i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is gee what else did you read about while you were searching for that link i havent heard that term in years. usually associated with high octane high compression engines plug fouling. .
From : roy
i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong now now hes doing the best he can. i still think that if somebody has who is he may prove interesting. i wish i had the time to mess around but i dont. .
From : tbone
i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong dude do you have any idea just how immature you sound -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : Annonymous
on fri 6 apr 2007 132842 -0400 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong dude do you have any idea just how immature you sound tom. first i think he does but i dont think he really cares too much. second have you appointed yourself the moral anal barometer for the group now you seem to want to insert yourself in that way. no pun intended......honestly. and third with the dude shit do you know how immature you sound .
From : tom lawrence
dude do you have any idea just how immature you sound or inmature .
From : roy
on fri 6 apr 2007 132842 -0400 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong dude do you have any idea just how immature you sound tom. first i think he does but i dont think he really cares too much. second have you appointed yourself the moral anal barometer for the group now you seem to want to insert yourself in that way. no pun intended......honestly. now that was funny. .
From : beryl
azwiley1 wrote i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is thats the green one that tickles! me and roy like to snip no no punkin. not a buttplug. were talking about sparkplugs. -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .
From : azwiley1
dude do you have any idea just how immature you sound dude i did not know that i had to approve everything i said with you. tom seriously if you dont like what i say then simply ignore me or k/f me not hurt feelings here. or we could continue on the way we are and when that cock sucker stop stirring the shit as he has in this thread life will be normal again. .
From : jmc
suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 07-apr-07 1219 am i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong now now hes doing the best he can. i still think that if somebody has who is he may prove interesting. i wish i had the time to mess around but i dont. roy im a she; i am a bit surprised youve forgotten ive been here a while. then again i deliberately use a generic name and after all dont post in pink with flowers g. will you kids quit playing around im trying to enjoy my coffee at my new house here and youre disturbing the peace jmc .
From : roy
suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 07-apr-07 1219 am i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong now now hes doing the best he can. i still think that if somebody has who is he may prove interesting. i wish i had the time to mess around but i dont. roy im a she; i am and have been aware of that since you first started posting here some time ago. i am a bit surprised youve forgotten i havent forgotten but i am at a loss as to what you are talking about in this post. i think you may have mis read who posted what. .
From : roy
azwiley1 wrote i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is thats the green one that tickles! me and roy like to look! hes learned how to modify a post. how cute of him. snip no no punkin. not a buttplug. something im sure your very familiar with. then again you strike me as a person who wouldnt settle for a toy you are too use to the real deal arent ya were talking about sparkplugs. some of us know about them and how to read them while you on the other hand have to read about them then play catch up. .
From : tbone
dude do you have any idea just how immature you sound dude i did not know that i had to approve everything i said with you. tom seriously if you dont like what i say then simply ignore me or k/f me not hurt feelings here. i never said that i had to approve anything that you say or do. all i was trying to do is is give you an unbiased opinion on these posts. it really is not a matter of what i like or dislike especially since these posts are not directed toward me. or we could continue on the way we are and when that cock sucker stop stirring the shit as he has in this thread life will be normal again. what reason does he have to stop. take it from someone who played both sides of this game. if he feels that he is correct and you continue to react the way you are he not only has no reason to stop he will take every opportunity to make you look the fool. max and i used to do this to each other all of the time. for a while it was funny but then it just gets old. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : chris thompson
on fri 06 apr 2007 194353 +0000 tom lawrence wrote dude do you have any idea just how immature you sound or inmature hes using snomans spell checker ; -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : jmc
suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 07-apr-07 852 am suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 07-apr-07 1219 am i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong now now hes doing the best he can. i still think that if somebody has who is he may prove interesting. i wish i had the time to mess around but i dont. roy im a she; i am and have been aware of that since you first started posting here some time ago. i am a bit surprised youve forgotten i havent forgotten but i am at a loss as to what you are talking about in this post. i think you may have mis read who posted what. i think i did. apologies. i use thunderbird with an extension that collapes quoted posts made a bad assumption as to who was talking to whom. can you ever forgive me - jmc .
From : roy
suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 07-apr-07 852 am suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 07-apr-07 1219 am i would love to see him check his plugs! hel this will be impossible! the page everything youve always wanted to know about spark plugs but were afraid to ask doesnt mention everything. can you tell us what a whiskered plug is what difference does it make assclown cock sucker. if you were more then anything but a waste of life and space troll you would know jmc is a her you stupid fuck. get back to your idols dick and stay out of the sand box where you dont belong now now hes doing the best he can. i still think that if somebody has who is he may prove interesting. i wish i had the time to mess around but i dont. roy im a she; i am and have been aware of that since you first started posting here some time ago. i am a bit surprised youve forgotten i havent forgotten but i am at a loss as to what you are talking about in this post. i think you may have mis read who posted what. i think i did. apologies. i use thunderbird with an extension that collapes quoted posts made a bad assumption as to who was talking to whom. can you ever forgive me - but of course my dear. vbg roy jmc .
From : beryl
roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote roy what do you mean change in heat range if the poor fuel is causing carbon to build up a hotter plug may help burn it. a hot plug has a longer insulator. it helps to burn off deposits and carbon that may foul a colder plug. you have to remove the plugs and see what the electrodes look like. if you find that one or two are fouled you are going to have to find out why. hopefully that when you pull the plugs the all look about the same but it is doubtful based on what you have described. as somebody mentioned a set of wires as well as plugs should cure what ails it. but looking at the plugs is a must imo. roy meant look at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html well well my little troll is back. not a bad link. but i really meant what i posted thanks of course but if you find that one or two are fouled was pretty useless. waiting for your suggestion to solve the ops problem. ok. i suggest that he compare the spark plugs he looks at with the pictures and descriptions at http//www.ingfatrygg.se/sparkplugdiagnostics.html. but keep waiting i can suggest it a 3rd time. -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .
From : roger rabbid
on tue 03 apr 2007 180610 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote my truck recently had a massive mpg drop - from almost 17mpg down to just a tad over 13mpg and i was noticing today that its lacking in power too - used to practically create g-forces when i accelerate now its decidedly sluggish. id written off the mpg change to the opal gas were forced to use in our vehicles here in central australia dont get me started -grr- but in short opal is unsniffable. it also destroys engines built before about 1986 but is *supposed* to be safe for newer vehicles i bought a 2000 with dakota with 39k on it back in nov 05.. totally hideous on gas.. i could watch the fuel guage dropping as i tooled to work 3 miles away from my home. i accepted the fact that my truck was a gas guzzler and i was sorry for trading in my 96 s10 for it that was doing 28 highway with the 4.3... anyhow.. transmission started acting bizzar. upon doing some research i replaced the throttle position sensor $24.00us and tossed in a new set of plugs. the truck woke up and was nice and snappy and suddenly the fuel economy went way up and i was getting by on $22.00 worth of $2.35 a gallon of gas per week. i loved the truck and the performance of the 4.7 after that. anyway someone told me it could just be that i have a fouled spark. quite possib