liberty CRD vs durango as family vehicle for my wife?
From : christopher thompson
Q: its my understanding that a 185 degree stat will really help the 360 perform better. is that not quite the case -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. thermostat gasket sealing. i think i put a 160 degree thermostat in when i did it. i just hate to have an engine running hotter than necessary. nevermind that a t-stat that low will set an obd-ii code not let the engine reach optimal operating temperature and cost you some fuel economy. the entire fi system has been designed with an operating temperature of 195f. but hey - at least its not running too hot... .
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From : miles
on mon 01 aug 2005 234127 gmt fmb fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote the grab handle on the a pillar on my 03 2500 pulled off yesterday. only the top though. today i intended to take the handle off and effect repairs. after turning the bolt cc for ever i could see the bolt was never gonna come out. i looked behind the plastic at the top bolt hole and saw the bolt was still in the pillar but torn loose from the plastic. i tore the other one loose and now i have a twice busted plastic a pillar cover laying in the back seat. i then tried to remove the bolts from the pillar. no success. the insert the bolt screws into spins just as much as the bolt. there is very little clearance between the bolt head and the insert. the portion of the insert that is on the surface of the pillar is very thin. i tried to hold it with needle nose pliers while attempting to loosen the bolt. no success. i tried prying under it to jam it in place while i try to loosen the bolt. no success. anybody have any suggestions besides dont tighten it too much to begin with ya heres my sign there was a thread on this problem last year.. complaining about how its attached and how to replace... i tried to google it but couldnt find it... maybe youll have better luck mac please remove splinters before emailing .
From : miles
2000 2500 cummins 4x4. i have developed a leak at what looks like the back of the power steering pump on my 2500 qc. fsm shows an o-ring on the bottom line of the unit around the leak area. anybody know if that o-ring can be replaced or am i wasting my time messing with it does the pump have to be removed to get to itany tips on replacing the pump itself. looks kind of straight-forward but a pain to get to. any insight will be appreciated. tia. jack .
From : miles
snoman wrote the 5.7 look impressive on paper but with a power peak of 5400 rpm and a torque peak at 4200 rpm it is greatly over rated for towing. i tow with mine and love it. the torque and hp curves on the hemi are flatter than you might realize. it develops quite a bit of torque at lower rpms. just got back from towing my 5000lb trailer on a 800 miles round trip. it tows it with ease even up 6%+ grades. not so great on gas when towing though. .
From : snoman
as does the sheer ignorance of yours. comeback of the year. whoa. yeah i figured youd be right on that. care for the last word or will you be providing proof of your claims awaiting your display of brilliance that would be game set and match. glad to see ya havent lost your touch max. gbmfg have to start a new best friend list for ya. roy wow roys actually trying to keep score. another lively weekend eh no need to keep score. you talk about a lively weekend you have around 15 posts over the past couple of days dancing for max. guess you are having one. keep up the entertainment ill check back on ya tonight and turn out the lights. .
From : badger
you need to go to another service department. that was a bunch of crap. their job is to try to minimize as much warranty work as possible. i had a a whine on a 98 ram and it turn out to be a pinion bearing in my rear axle. dont get psychologied by the service department. stand your ground and make some noise. escalate to the manager if that doenst work esaclate to the dealership manager. also find a good mechanic ask around and get a non chrysler evaluation done. get it documented and tkae back to the dealership. steve well took the service writer on a short trip to have him hear what i was hearing in the tranny/rear end. he says that all the trucks have a range of speed at which this whine develops. sounds plausible but also sounds like dont bother us your warrantee is out in less than 800 miles. dont remember hearing it originally or even in the first 30k miles. only recently. input gary .
From : gene
your family and humanity in general would be better off if you went away ! henry .
From : nathan w collier
christopher thompson wrote lol thats what shes wanting to get out of.... we currently have a chev venture witch has been really good to us. the only thing ive had to do to it is of course reg scheduled maint water pump and intake gaskets you get the mini van she gets what ever she wants. that 4 wd is vital when competing for the best parking space at the mall. jam .
From : henry
.bob bob my 360s basically stock with a 185 thermo and it runs great. a/c on idling in traffic and 93 degrees outside is no problem at all. mileage hasnt changed at all from the 195 thermo - still 14 mpg overall. bob do you have a link to the hypertech what octane are you using at the pump joe 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc 93 mustang lx 5.0 hatch with a few goodies www.hypertech.com there are two levels of tune available with the hypertech 89 and 91 octane. i tried them both. 89 made a huge difference over stock and got better fuel mileage. 91 didnt seem to make any additional improvements but required premium fuel and got worse mileage. so i run mid grade all the time. even when towing. -- .bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project ive had the 160 degree thermostat in my 98 durango for a couple weeks now and unless its cool outside its not going to stay at 160 degrees. yesterday with temps above 85 degrees mine would stay in the middle of the temp range on the gauge. if its sitting at idle in the heat its going to be in the middle range. the only time that it actually stays at 160 degrees the little mark on the left side of guage is when its in the 70s outside and moving. that hypertech programmer might be nice to fix the tire ratio. my 98 was supposed to come with some 15 rims but someone had already put a set of the 16 inch aluminum on there like the newer dakotas and durangos have. my speedometer actually shows that it is going around 1.5 mph faster than it actually is or so says my gps receiver. oh yeah the trip computer on my durango shows that it was averaging 16.5 mpg on the interstate @ 70 mph yesterday and that was with 3.92 gears ; and no i dont know if thats accurate. itll get even higher mpg @ 55 mph on that trip computer. ps. im ready to remove the catalytic converters and dual out the exhaust now after seeing all these epa commies in here. ben .
From : johnny thunder johnny
lol! wtf are you talking about the sheer brilliance of your post just shines through... right. $x96.6726@attbis72 wrong brainiac you are not changing to a non-specified part try again using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in while your points below are well taken the mere fact that it is in the engine at all is emissions tampering which carries a heavy fine jesus mary and joseph...................are you this obtuse naturally or did you take classes carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .
From : johnny thunder johnny
max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. um yeah ok sure...... uh yeah hullo... spark plugs are heat ranged to be self cleaning. the range is generally accepted to be about 300-400 degrees wide and could be 500 to 900c or 700-1000f depending on your preference for measurement. given the wide range of operation changing a heat range whether purposeful or by accident will not appreciably alter the emissions of a vehicle since the purpose is to burn off deposits of what is already in the cylinder. spark plugs do not alter the operating temp of an engine which is the greatest influence on emissions for a number of reasons but instead alter the temp at which the plug disappates heat. thus one engine model may be fine with stock plugs in one application but may need a different heat range plug in another application. one example might be the ford 5.4 often used in police applications. in a police cruiser it may be necessary to have a hotter plug due to the relatively lazy way the car is used slow patrols stopped and watching. conversely the same model may be used in another pd and be used for highway patrol and need a cooler plug. thus swapping plugs is not a real factor on emissions but is a definite factor in maintenance of the spark plugs. if you wish to reach a bit certainly you could claim the lack of maintenance on a cool set of plugs or the pre-ignition caused by too hot a plug would affect emissions. however between the two there is plenty of space to roam. so again i say um yeah ok sure whatever.... and to all that i say um sure. whatever. using the wrong plugs will affect your emissions in a negative way. guess ill never live in pa. no loss. or cali. by what ive read so far thats 3 down and 47 to go. at what point will you decide to live in another country simply based on emissions regs that have very little effect on overall power ill never live in another country. maybe another state but never another country. the primary factor in determining where i will live has always been the weather. .
From : jph
max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. um yeah ok sure...... uh yeah hullo... so whats the inspection guy gonna do pull a plug to check if youve got the right ones in assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... indeed. shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is. bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesnt trip the sensor youre ok. no way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle. actually pa has just enacted legislation to do exactly that with a visual inspection. now since its still up to private enterprise to do the inspections......they may or may not check everything including the thermostat. those new handheld thermometer guns are wonderful arent they ill readily agree its ridiculous. but the fact is if they actually enforce the regs and someone will at some point do exactly that then the thermostat is fair game. what i see here is a bunch of people saying well yeah it might be considered against the rules if they catch us. great so for no appreciable gain and to the possible detriment of the pcm programming yall are gonna change the stat ten degrees is worth that much trouble and i mean the hassle of changing the stat not the bullshit regs in some cases i suppose it might be. guess ill never live in pa. no loss. .
From : nathan w collier
try cam position sensor and indexing the distributor. just last week my fuel pump quit. i have replaced it along with the dist. cap and rotor as they were showing a lot of wear. after making these replacements it now runs very sluggish and wont climb a hill. i have also replaced the cooling temp sensor as other owners have suggested with no resolutions. help!!! i have double checked the firing order and from tdc top dead center it is correct as well with regards to the plug wires positioning on the distributor. i am simply stumped at this point. .
From : christopher thompson
max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. actually since all ya can do is swap plugs and plug wires and you cannot change timing fueling vacuum lines etc its not messing with emissions at all. sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. so whats the inspection guy gonna do pull a plug to check if youve got the right ones in assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... indeed. shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is. bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesnt trip the sensor youre ok. no way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle. .
From : jay
im doubting that any dc dealership would be selling water damaged cars. one never knows though but i would guess that its a semi-normal occurance. is anyone else experiencing problems with rusting seat brackets under the seats. i noticed the brackets under my front seats and the dealer replaced them under warranty. however my back seat brackets are also rusting . i guess im wondering if this sold as new truck might have been partially submerged. i cant imagine rust forming on metals that are in a dry cab and protected from the elements by not only the cab itself but also the seats. gary .
From : miles
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From : christopher thompson
on fri 29 jul 2005 135653 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. but that wouldnt have been gary being gary. he is what he is. beekeep .
From : christopher thompson
ok as far as stats on the boat its a 24 footer on a single axle trailer dont know how much it weighs but if it helps is a fisher with plywood deck. it wouldnt let you forget its back there when i had to use my grandfathers f150 but little notice when behind my v10 2500. im lookin at options the two she likes are the liberty and the durango the liberty crd isnt the prettyiest girl at the dance but it is a great wifey vehicle. for towing you just cant beat a diesel. you didnt give any stats on your pontoon boat just make sure it weighs less than the crds capabilities. once you go diesel you never go back. the new restyled durango on the other hand is amongst the ugliest vehicles on the road. older durangos looked great the newer durango runs great thanks to the addition of the hemi....to bad you couldnt get the older style with the hemi. the hemi can be a blast to drive but if you tow with the durango your mileage is going to go from piss-poor to total suck-ass. are you open to any other vehicles -- nathan w. collier http//inlinediesel.com http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com .
From : Annonymous
i should just put up and shut up. been married for 20 years and that is how i survived this long. snip if you put that splash shield on you can begin your list of things you no longer have to put up with. -- fmb working on list for 26+ years the nlhtpu list seems to be the same as her yshtpu list. .
From : johnny thunder johnny
i am looking for a new vehicle for my gal as well. i have done quite a bit of research on the liberty and i have pretty much decided that we are going to get it. you can get a fully loaded liberty with the diesel for under 30k right now. she wont even know its a diesel ... it is unbelievably quiet. why spend more $$ on the durango and get poor fuel economy plus the diesel will last longer than a gas engine. craig c. .
From : nathan w collier
i should just put up and shut up. been married for 20 years and that is how i survived this long. dont forget the rest of it.... if she aint happy long enough youll be unhappy with half your stuff if she aint happy you aint happy j. foxworthy remember the golden rule - happy wife happy life user@domain.invalid wrote a wife is a wife and if you love her you will just have to put up with her or if you dont tell her the next time you will be filing divorce papers. bob m wrote ytnyt wrote my wife has a 99 town and country w/3.0. i hear they are known for getting the belt knocked off from puddles and such. she has managed to knock hers off 4 times in the past year 3 puddles and 1 snow drift. asking her to slow down or go around seems to be out of the question. i replaced the belt and the tensioner seems to be holding the belt tight. my question is is there anything that will help keep the belt on putting it back on is a real pita. thanks ytnyt next time she does it make her walk home. then maybe shell slow down or avoid large puddles and snow banks. g bob .
From : jph
ytnyt wrote my wife has a 99 town and country w/3.0. i hear they are known for getting the belt knocked off from puddles and such. she has managed to knock hers off 4 times in the past year 3 puddles and 1 snow drift. asking her to slow down or go around seems to be out of the question. i replaced the belt and the tensioner seems to be holding the belt tight. my question is is there anything that will help keep the belt on putting it back on is a real pita. thanks ytnyt get some sheet alum from home depot or lowes and make a splash shield that extends from under the radiator to just behind the balancer and from side to side. shouldnt cost more that $40 with hardware. sounds like the plan to me kind of like a really thin skid plate that would deflect the water. -- .bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .
From : bob
ytnyt wrote my wife has a 99 town and country w/3.0. i hear they are known for getting the belt knocked off from puddles and such. she has managed to knock hers off 4 times in the past year 3 puddles and 1 snow drift. asking her to slow down or go around seems to be out of the question. i replaced the belt and the tensioner seems to be holding the belt tight. my question is is there anything that will help keep the belt on putting it back on is a real pita. thanks ytnyt get some sheet alum from home depot or lowes and make a splash shield that extends from under the radiator to just behind the balancer and from side to side. shouldnt cost more that $40 with hardware. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .