help with my dodge please
From : Annonymous
Q: could be a fuel filter but since most fuel problems are not monitored by the pcm and your cel is coming on id check for codes before assuming anything else. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author about one week ago i tried to start my truck. nothing it just clicked .so i put some dry gas in and heated the truck up and nothing so i looked at the plugs and replaced them. it started right up no problem. as i was driving it chugs. the more i accelerate the more it chugs my check engine light blinks when it chugs then goes off when it returns normal. not i came upona stop sign and when i went to go it chuged then stalled out now my cel stays on and blinks still when it feel like its starving for gas its a 98 dodge dakota 3.9 2wd thanks .
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From : t diesel
as all else have mentioned 4x2s are still made and are easy to get and yes it depends on where you live as to what you need but more often what you are going to be doing with it. i made the decision to get my 99 f150 lariat fully loaded with all options but as a 4x2 simply because although i live on long island and although you can drive on the ocean beach i was not going to take a brand new 30k truck out by the salt water. we get snow here but not enough to warrant 4wd and its as flat as a pancake. i wonder if most of the newly built pick-up trucks domestic or imported are made in four wheel drive i recall in the old days that during the winter pick-up trucks usually have problem with tractions and they have to buy bags of sand to make sure that the rear wheels are not spinning. what about the new trucks and pick-ups are they now front wheel drive all wheel drive or 4 wheel drive i hardly hear someone complaining that they have to load their pick up truck with bags of sand any longer. is this still the practice during winter months .
From : max dodge
http//www.radix.net/honeybs/bbm1.jpg wheres the big knife switch that engages everything with you holding onto the handle and laughing maniacally as you pull it down what model miller is that in the background .
From : denny
tbone wrote do you think you are worthy of any consideration at all when your sole intent has been to attack and destroy a single indvidual in this group simply because his avowed beliefs dont fit into some little niche that you think all who go by the name christian should be stuffed into and then left to die bigoted hypocrite john your hatred for me and my beliefs is evident to all now. i forgive you. could this really be any more hollow once again you reject something i said in all honesty and truth. that shows you will never accept a thing i say as honest or truthful. it was not hollow . . .i am a christian. he asked you some valid questions and your refusal or inability to answer them says it all. yep it says i wont dance his dance nor will i dance yours. both of you have given clear evidence of your attitude of anyone professing christ that doesnt fit your styereotypical mold. both of you have proven to my satifaction you are religious bigots. i said that i would not get involved in this kind of crap and got stuck doing it anyway. now whos choice was that tom why it was yours. just like it has always been. youre really good at telling others to do the things you cannot do . . .like pass up a chance to show your bigotries. while in the past i would keep going on with this level of pointless argument least now i know enough to get out. no you dont. if you really knew what you think you know you would know that no two christians are required to be exactly alike by the bible. you know my opinion and i know yours enough said and it is getting too close to the holidays to keep this crap going anyway. is it enough said or will you grab the next available chance to attack me or my beliefs why will you go back on the offensive after the holidays a merry christmas to you and yours budd. do you know what christmas really means to a true believer budd .
From : tbone
well all i have to say is wow andy about one week ago i tried to start my truck. nothing it just clicked .so i put some dry gas in and heated the truck up and nothing so i looked at the plugs and replaced them. it started right up no problem. as i was driving it chugs. the more i accelerate the more it chugs my check engine light blinks when it chugs then goes off when it returns normal. not i came upona stop sign and when i went to go it chuged then stalled out now my cel stays on and blinks still when it feel like its starving for gas its a 98 dodge dakota 3.9 2wd thanks .
From : andy
and in fact it wont. here is a short list of what the pcm has no clue about fuel filter fuel pump fuel lines lean run condition a lean run condition doesnt necessarily point to the fuel system. on the chance that it does it does not pinpoint a cause. as such a lean run condition only points to a lean run condition not a cause. from there it takes a trouble shooting procedure to determine cause. fuel injector spray pattern clogged fuel injectors failing fuel injectors it knows if it fired the injector but it doesnt know if that event went well misfire codes misfire codes indicate that a cylinder did not fire correctly. it does not indicate why the cylinder fired incorrectly. fuel pressure fuel leaks these are really just repeates from above unfortunately they are not. they are problems unto themselves not just symptoms. grade of fuel is not a delivery problem sure it is. if for some reason the fuel vaporizes in the line rare i know the pcm would never know it. if water is in the fuel the diesels know this but not the gassers afaik or if the fuel is even capable of igniting as in varnished or aged. again non of this is a delivery problem unfortunately you are wrong. fuel varnish can clog injectors stall pumps and doesnt burn very well if at all. if it doesnt burn its not fuel thus fuel isnt being delivered. same is true of water in the fuel. absolute fuel pressure is the only thing that it will not monitor but just about every other fuel delivery problem will cause symptoms that it can hence the code he is getting. um yeah except the problem you mentioned first was a failed fuel pump which is not monitored. it depends on what failed. no it depends on what you said failed which was the fuel pump. and what you said failed is not monitored by the pcm. a complete failure will not be detected but a partial failure very low pressure would show up as lean run and misfire codes. while true both codes could indicate other problems. that is why its essential to get all info since the fuel system will not show any dedicated codes. this is directly related to fuel pressure which is not monitored. further if it was enough to get the truck going but not enough to properly spray from the injector there would be an atomization problem which is not monitored. did you forget about misfire codes. it would also probably result in rich run codes that would be false but would indicate a fuel delivery problem. see above. there are no dedicated fuel delivery codes. its absolutely correct. the only thing the pcm knows about the fuel is injector timing and a/f mixture via sensors. and fuel delivery problems severe enough to cause running difficulties are doing it why max because it will cause the very mixture problems you just said so i guess that they are monitored indirectly after all. oops what did you say indirectly right. indirectly you could use the codes to find a problem and then use deductive reasoning troubleshooting to indirectly find the problem in the fuel system. but there are no dedicated codes nor any sensors monitoring the fuel delivery system. if that were only true but we both know better than that. have a merry christmas max. who is we id love to see a list of people you think agree with you consistantly. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author sorry max but you said that it will not monitor most fuel problems and it in fact will. and in fact it wont. here is a short list of what the pcm has no clue about fuel filter fuel pump fuel lines lean run condition fuel injector spray pattern clogged fuel injectors failing fuel injectors it knows if it fired the injector but it doesnt know if that event went well misfire codes fuel pressure fuel leaks these are really just repeates from above grade of fuel is not a delivery problem if water is in the fuel the diesels know this but not the gassers afaik or if the fuel is even capable of igniting as in varnished or aged. again non of this is a delivery problem absolute fuel pressure is the only thing that it will not monitor but just about every other fuel delivery problem will cause symptoms that it can hence the code he is getting. um yeah except the problem you mentioned first was a failed fuel pump which is not monitored. it depends on what failed. a complete failure will not be detected but a partial failure very low pressure would show up as lean run and misfire codes. this is directly related to fuel pressure which is not monitored. further if it was enough to get the truck going but not enough to properly spray from the injector there would be an atomization problem which is not monitored. did you forget about misfire codes. it would also probably result in rich run
From : max dodge
ok it is in snow and very slippery road. well when in second gear i give it gass and the rear spins then clunk and it feels like it goes into four wheel driver i have already engaged it if you have limited slip what you might be hearing is it coupleing up. roy .
From : max dodge
john kunkel wrote if you dont like the bible and the fact it tells you that you are going to hell then why do you pick parts of it out just because it suits your purpose how liberal of you john . . .wrong but liberal. picking those parts of the bible that suit you is so christian. the l word again. how christian of you. look again john. mine are in context and are supported by the bible a believer is authorized to teach unbelievers from the scriptures you are not. show any violation of context in the biblical passages i posted. you keep using the word teaching; pointing out hypocrisy isnt teaching from the scriptures. try a new line. if you had simply called me a hypocrite that would have been pointing percieved hypocrisy. when you went to the bible and decided to assume an authority you did not have you made it teaching. suppose i see an avowed christian banging his next door neighbors wife in full view of dozens of people in a public park. is it teaching to point out that he is in violation of the sixth and ninth commandment is pointing out the obvious violation passing judgement passing judgement would be condemning the behavior not pointing it out. first thing right off the bat a true believing christian unless decieved by satan we are still human would not commit breaches of those commandments. secondly since you are an athiest what does it matter to you what anyone of any other belief does however since a sexual act in public would be a violation of probably several public laws you could dial 911 and put it in the hands of those in authority the cops. budd .
From : high sierra
sorry max but you said that it will not monitor most fuel problems and it in fact will. and in fact it wont. here is a short list of what the pcm has no clue about fuel filter fuel pump fuel lines fuel injector spray pattern clogged fuel injectors failing fuel injectors it knows if it fired the injector but it doesnt know if that event went well fuel pressure fuel leaks grade of fuel if water is in the fuel the diesels know this but not the gassers afaik or if the fuel is even capable of igniting as in varnished or aged. absolute fuel pressure is the only thing that it will not monitor but just about every other fuel delivery problem will cause symptoms that it can hence the code he is getting. um yeah except the problem you mentioned first was a failed fuel pump which is not monitored. this is directly related to fuel pressure which is not monitored. further if it was enough to get the truck going but not enough to properly spray from the injector there would be an atomization problem which is not monitored. you are of course correct that he should get the codes before proceeding but to say that most fuel problems are not monitored is wrong. its absolutely correct. the only thing the pcm knows about the fuel is injector timing and a/f mixture via sensors. now if you had said directly monitored you would have been much more accurate but since you like to jump on me for crap like this what comes around goes around. nah i just jump on you for crap where you are wrong. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author sorry max but you said that it will not monitor most fuel problems and it in fact will. absolute fuel pressure is the only thing that it will not monitor but just about every other fuel delivery problem will cause symptoms that it can hence the code he is getting. you are of course correct that he should get the codes before proceeding but to say that most fuel problems are not monitored is wrong. now if you had said directly monitored you would have been much more accurate but since you like to jump on me for crap like this what comes around goes around. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving most fuel problems are not monitored hahahahahahahahahaha. about the only fuel problem that is not monitored is fuel pressure directly. which coincidentally is what a lack of fuel is isnt it the fuel delivery system in a dodge has no direct monitoring. a failed pump will not show a code or an cel. thus a code would show a problem with the engine management not the fuel delivery system. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author most fuel problems are not monitored hahahahahahahahahaha. about the only fuel problem that is not monitored is fuel pressure directly. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving could be a fuel filter but since most fuel problems are not monitored by the pcm and your cel is coming on id check for codes before assuming anything else. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author about one week ago i tried to start my truck. nothing it just clicked .so i put some dry gas in and heated the truck up and nothing so i looked at the plugs and replaced them. it started right up no problem. as i was driving it chugs. the more i accelerate the more it chugs my check engine light blinks when it chugs then goes off when it returns normal. not i came upona stop sign and when i went to go it chuged then stalled out now my cel stays on and blinks still when it feel like its starving for gas its a 98 dodge dakota 3.9 2wd thanks .
From : mike simmons
on mon 19 dec 2005 131703 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote seeing as it is the holiday season and all that is being accomplished here is the usual never ending bull shit threads i am going to try to lighten things up with my own bull shit thread. given the animosity that has become evident with a number of those who post here i purpose a day of relaxation and rest with.......yup the friggin machine. i figure that with the machine operated at its higher speeds it will jerk off a few of ya faster than youve been jerking off each other. the end result should be that ya are too spent and weakened to continue in the bull shit threads your involved in. thus the threads will end and the participates will find themselves relaxed and able to spend time with family and friends perhaps doing christmas shopping or whatever. now to accomplish this the friggin machine must be located. at last report it was being transported to the northwest by mac. he was supposed to give it to red. but alas there were reports of a long floppy eared creature in a dodge 4x4 with a plow and a load of carrots in the back headed that way. since that time nobody has seen it or admitted that they have it. although red has been kinda quiet of late. anybody have any ideas or thought as to who has or where the machine ended up please feel free to jump right into this bull shit thread with any info or thoughts you may have. you know that there are a few here that desperately need a few session with the machine so they regain some perspective as to what this ng is about. any help or info you provide will be greatly appreciated. remember this is another bull shit thread so any info you choose to provide need not be truthful or accurate. gbmfg roy hey you dont suppose someone got ahold of it and realizing its true value sold it on e-bay lets look for someone that has come into a lot of money recently. yeah. maybe someone who bought a new truck recently. maybe they even made so much money they were able to get the heated seats with it. .
From : roy
on mon 19 dec 2005 062220 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote are you not the one who made the claim try backing up what you say. i already said that it pretty much monitors everything short of direct fuel pressure. it monitors rich run lean run misfires and which cylinder which pretty much catches all fuel delivery problems. your turn. tom do you ever read these posts in the morning when you first get up try it. sort of out of the emotion of the posts and all you would see how absolutely ridiculous stupid moronic childish..........on and on that they are. not talking about just you several others are the same. just hopin that you will listen though. .
From : theguy
sez who you john guess what tom the bible says that non-christians have no authority over christians nada none. in fact we are told to avoid them when it comes to doctrines and beliefs lest they corrupt the faith. this also includes those that belong to already corrupted sects. so until you give proof you are a christian you might as well shut up. . . . but then your actions arent how a christian would correct another believer either. . . .oops. budd tbone wrote john kunkel wrote the bible is laced with proof that your comments were un-christian no opinion simple fact and atypical. so everyone that reads the bible and practices christianity believes the same way the way you believe they should live christianity is what it is miles. while there may be some variation in the formalities and customs the way others should be treated pretty much remains the same -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : budd cochran
sorry denny but your opinion means well nothing. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving now stay in your corner until you actually have something of value to post or at least not make a fool out of yourself. talk about not taking ones own advice.......... denny .
From : roy
how many miles are on your tires are they oversize if you went wider than stock is the snow especially wet as compared to a dry snow these are all factors in the hydroplaning feeling worn out tread = reduced traction. wider tread = reduced contact patch pressure the tire tries to float on top the snow instead of digging in a bit for traction wet vs dry snow = wet snow is just plain more slippery. budd johnathon aaron steel wrote ok it is in snow and very slippery road. well when in second gear i give it gass and the rear spins then clunk and it feels like it goes into four wheel driver i have already engaged it nope just in 4 wheel high range. tires are all the same size. never really felt the hydroplanning though before. maybe cuz i am more leary. yes i agree its fun. thanx for the input..... on mon 19 dec 2005 073743 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote all right thats a part time 4x4. what conditions are you driving it in while in 4 wheel drive you do know that you shouldnt be using it on dry roads that way right please explain more clearly what you mean by hesitation in second gear are you talking about hesitation or binding i hope that you are talking about second gear on the transmission and are not trying to
From : denny
im not sure when you feel the clunk but its possible its taking longer than you expect to engage. one note on the nv transfer cases maintaining proper fluid level is essential as it has its own oil pump. too little fluid and operation can be sluggish or stuck in 2wd. im also not sure why it feels like its hydroplaning. in 4wd you should be able to feel the front end grip at least some of the time. if it were actually hydroplaning as tbone suggests you would be out of control and 4wd would be useless. if it is indeed hydroplaning the likely cause is something other than the 4wd operation such as tires road conditions or speed. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author ok so now the winter is among us i am running in 4x4 but am having an issue. when in 4x4 and in second gear i give it gas and it seems to hesitate and then clunk into 4x4. is this because one of my hubs is not engaging i have a 318 5 speed standard. also in 4x4 it feels like i am hydroplaning. thanx help .
From : tbone
all right thats a part time 4x4. what conditions are you driving it in while in 4 wheel drive you do know that you shouldnt be using it on dry roads that way right please explain more clearly what you mean by hesitation in second gear are you talking about hesitation or binding i hope that you are talking about second gear on the transmission and are not trying to shift into low range while driving. also make sure that all of your tires are the same size. part time 4x4s have a hard time if any of them are different. as for the hydroplaning feeling that is normal in slippery conditions because now the speed of your front wheels are now being controlled by the drive train instead of free wheeling at the speed of the truck and may be sliding or spinning especially in a turn. it takes a little getting used to playing with the throttle to stop it from doing that but that is all part of the fun. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving whoops sorry 1995 dodge ram 4x4 318 short box 5 speed slt laramie on mon 19 dec 2005 055732 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote the year and specific vehicle might help. .
From : tbone
how is this backpedaling shit for brains what other problems could there be besides delivery problems that are fuel related that would keep the engine from running and for that matter you didnt point out shit. all you said was that max made a correct statement which in this case like so many others he did not and you were completely unable to back up any of it. now stay in your corner until you actually have something of value to post or at least not make a fool out of yourself. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone said ...catches all fuel delivery problems funny how you are already backpedaling. since when was this a fuel delivery problem yes nice slight bit of word play to shift away from the fact you were wrong. and for the record i made no claim only pointed out the obvious. good luck with that all encompassing list you got going there buddy. .
From : t diesel
are you not the one who made the claim try backing up what you say. i already said that it pretty much monitors everything short of direct fuel pressure. it monitors rich run lean run misfires and which cylinder which pretty much catches all fuel delivery problems. your turn. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving as should your list of what is monitored. but i didnt see that in your post ill show you mine if you show me yours. .
From : t diesel
whoops sorry 1995 dodge ram 4x4 318 short box 5 speed slt laramie on mon 19 dec 2005 055732 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote the year and specific vehicle might help. .
From : tbone
as should your list of what is monitored. but i didnt see that in your post ill show you mine if you show me yours. .
From : t diesel
as i thought just bullshit and spin. mine failed and i didnt lose any lubricant and i would say that most of the failures in here also were the bearings themselves and had nothing to do with a bad seal. the report was accurate in that a bad seal will affect the rears with them but it has little to do with the bearing failures that is yet another problem. lol pinion seal doesnt have to simply leak fliud..... could leak water as well. but that doesnt affect bearings does it .
From : tbone
most fuel problems are not monitored hahahahahahahahahaha. max made a correct statement in this context not sure what is so funny about that. if you take his statement to the logical level it in fact can not be proven wrong; as anybody can think up more problems than are on the fixed pcm detection list. .
From : max dodge
lol funny i dont recall a seal whining like that when it goes bad. did this piece of info which i see you didnt supply a link to specifically say that the bad seal was causing the bearing failures or did it just say that it was affecting the rear which couls be nothing more than forming a leak. how exactly is this bad seal damaging the carrier bearings check any dodge dealer and note that the part number now has an ab suffix indicating a revised part. hmm the part that keeps the lubricant in the case is failing but you cant figure out the connection to how a part that needs the lubrication fails. as i thought just bullshit and spin. mine failed and i didnt lose any lubricant and i would say that most of the failures in here also were the bearings themselves and had nothing to do with a bad seal. the report was accurate in that a bad seal will affect the rears with them but it has little to do with the bearing failures that is yet another problem. sure max and you were the one that claimed that the problem didnt exist at all and once again these failures were due to normal wear lol! please supply a link to this difficult to find information so that we can see what it really said minus your spin. the bearing problem that you complain so much about does not exist. my source cited no links but did have part numbers. i dont care if you believe me. however it would be a surprising change in your normal corporate greed/conspiracy attitude given that i mentioned its a covert change. because this is a different issue but actually does back my previous point. they used a second rate seal along with the second rate bearings for what purpose why to save money lol! they probably didnt think the failure rate would be as high as it turned out and then they found out it was they quietly changed the seal to a higher quality one and only replace the ones that fail and take no responsibility for the added damage that can happen when they do. nothing you have said here indicates that the bearing problem does not exist only that there is yet another problem and for the same reasons. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
you keep making this bs claim about common steel brake line like it is the only thing ever used. lets see some proof to back this up. the links supplied by aarcuda shows you to be full of shit so as you said your little bit of deception and spin aint gonna cut it. the links supplied that lead to the brake lines made of copper refer to aftermarket sources. the only manufacturers specifically mentioned are audi and porsche one other i don;t recall but it was not dodge. dodge trucks have long been built with common steel brake line. the links dont change that fact. once again you talk with nothing to back up what you say. and you have the nerve to talk about me. there are multiple grades of steel fluid line material for both pressure and corrosion resistance as well as materials for protecting those materials and none of the bullshit you have been spewing out says anything different. until you can conclusively prove that every brake line in every vehicle uses exactly the same material and possible protection method you have no facts just your typical crap. meanwhile youve posted nothing to back your claim of several grades of stel in those lines. the manufacturer does not have to list such things actually they could be considered trade secrets so your chances of finding this information would be slim at best. once again your ignorance and spin rank supreme. i said if and if they did use this sub-standard line on many trucks it will be a big problem for them. no... you said the problem was a change due to corporate greed. go back and read my second post. i said that the problem could be caused by that and that it could also be caused by a batch of bad line but i suspected the greed reasonto be the most likely with the other things they have been doing. if in fact that change occurred it would happen on all trucks. all trucks would be a huge problem. there was no if about it you claimed the brake lines were changed from one year to the next even chastized toml about it. yawn more spin. if the change occurred it would happen to all trucks from the time of the change. if a change began sometime in the 97 production run then only the 97s built after the change and up would be affected. i chastised tom because like you he made an invalid assumption that parts and materials cant change from year to year and was wrong. why are the 949596 and 97s exactly the same actually yeah they are. lol too funny. no that is actually part of the corporate greed you like to talk about so much. see they save money if a part works over several years of the same vehicle. so its not funny at all very practical and cost cutting in fact. again this reversal of your previous claims of corporate greed is amusing. the really amusing thing here is your complete lack of understanding. there are reasons when this is true but it is obvious that you really dont have a clue as to what they are. here is a hint it has to do with design and retooling costs neither of which would be needed to change the tubing to a lower quality and cost material. once again you eat crow lol! could you really be this ignorant who am i kidding of course you are. just because they carry the same part number does not mean that they are exactly the same and in many cases lol what you think that one part number indicates several different parts lol nope it indicates a part for a specific purpose but the part itself can vary in construction. your lookup will only show the most current part that fits the vehicle and it can be completely different form the origional one. wrong. yes you are. i just replace the crankshaft position sensor in my ram and even though the part carries the same number as the origional the part looks quite different in construction cheaper. do you think that the current fuel pump for the 97 ram is exactly the same one that came in it when it was new yup. then you would once again be wrong. i also bought a new fuel pump and it looks nothing like the origional in construction. they can change the material that makes up a part and retain the same part number if it still serves the same purpose even if it is not as strong. nope. obviously you have no clue what mopar part numbers do when a part is changed due to design or materials. they have a system that clearly indicates a change even if the number appears to be the same. that change is evident to anyone who knows the system and knows the alphabet. lol wrong. that change indicates a revision to a part to fix a problem not for just materials alone or to cut costs. show me exactly where i said that it was a massive campaign to screw the customer. 12/11/05 422pm i guess that its just another dc or at the time chrysler method of increasing profits at the customers expense where so you see campaign to screw the customer here
From : tbone
now stay in your corner until you actually have something of value to post or at least not make a fool out of yourself. talk about not taking ones own advice.......... denny rabbit he still doesnt get it. roy .
From : tbone
yes i have and it is not that easy. you have to cut the dash opening bigger you have to cut the dash trim bezel bigger. these two openings do line up directly when you start to cut them. you will have to make your own mounting brackets and your own radio trim ring out of abs because you will have large gaps on the sides. honestly it is a time consuming pain and you really are better off staying with din and 1/2 greetings i have a 2001 ram qc and i would like to replace the stereo head unit with a double din a/v system. obviously there is not enough room without moving the vents around but has anyone done this thanks david .