gauge mounting?
From : christopher thompson
Q: has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website im looking at adding some more gauges and looking for the best looking instalation possible. i already have my egt on the apillar using the mopar srt-10 pillar trim. -- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
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From : moparman
has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website i used that on a 2k and it was in they way too much and at time a pia to see. i took it off after a couple of weeks. try the mount on the top of the dash. roy i have enough gauges without adding more. i dont care what the manifold pressure is. if i had to add a gauge just because i tow allot it would be a transmission temperature gauge. -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .
From : christopher thompson
yes tom i would aprishiate the link to the dash pod. sounds like some good and bad with the column mount witch the bad im seeing is what i suspected. i wondered how it would block the dash indicators and ease of reading gauges witch you and roy have confirmed my suspisions. my only question about the dash pod would be if they have a 2 gauge mount as i only need/want the 2 extra gauges remember my truck is a 6 speed -- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website yep. they work well but do block view of the bottoms of the speedo and tach tough to see the od/off 4x4 odometer and cruise indicators. i also have the 3-gauge dash pod that mounts on top of the dash which i also like. this doesnt block anything and is easier to read than any of the other gauge positions. i can give you a link to some pictures if you like but once youve seen one thats pretty much it. i can tell you that the fit of both the steering column mount and the dash mount are very good. if you go with the dash mount id recommend all electric gauges. this way you can use a multi-pin connector and make your own wiring harness which will let you remove the top dash panel with the gauges attached - this makes installation and service down the road very easy rather than trying to deal with any tubing connectors. if you need to use a mechanical gauge then you should get the column mount. .
From : moparman
has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website i used that on a 2k and it was in they way too much and at time a pia to see. i took it off after a couple of weeks. try the mount on the top of the dash. roy i have enough gauges without adding more. i dont care what the manifold pressure is. if i had to add a gauge just because i tow allot it would be a transmission temperature gauge. with a cummins with a auto id think a fuel pressure is a must unless it is a newer model. the trans temp is a close second. it still amazes be how quickly they heat up when in reverse the temp flys up. roy ive got an 05 dually. besides what are you gonna do if your pressure drops out on the road ive got a card with a dc number on it to call if that happens. at least with a temp guage on the transmission you could pull over and wait for it to cool down before burning something up. its kinda hard to fix a fuel pressure problem when your on the road. -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .
From : moparman
moparman wrote has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website i used that on a 2k and it was in they way too much and at time a pia to see. i took it off after a couple of weeks. try the mount on the top of the dash. roy i have enough gauges without adding more. i dont care what the manifold pressure is. if i had to add a gauge just because i tow allot it would be a transmission temperature gauge. with a cummins with a auto id think a fuel pressure is a must unless it is a newer model. the trans temp is a close second. it still amazes be how quickly they heat up when in reverse the temp flys up. roy ive got an 05 dually. besides what are you gonna do if your pressure drops out on the road ive got a card with a dc number on it to call if that happens. at least with a temp guage on the transmission you could pull over and wait for it to cool down before burning something up. its kinda hard to fix a fuel pressure problem when your on the road. if the lift pump fails the truck will still run. some people dont notice any loss of power at all when the lift pump fails. when the lift pump fails it puts extra stress on the injection pump causing it to fail also. if you monitor the fuel pressure you can tell when the lift pump fails and correct the problem before it causes expensive injection pump failure. fuel pressure gauge $75.00 lift pump $170.00 injection pump $1075.00 -- ken under warranty my cost will be zero. -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .
From : tom lawrence
ive got an 05 dually. besides what are you gonna do if your pressure drops out on the road ive got a card with a dc number on it to call if that happens. my fp gauge tells me when its time to change my fuel filter. my trans temp gauge tells me when to back off the go pedal or downshift. same with my egt gauge. my tot lets me know when its cool enough to shut down. boost gauge lets me know if a clamp loosened up or to back off the throttle because im about to pop a head gasket. oil pressure gauge lets me see what my pressure really is - not some stupid idiot-light-turned-sweeper-gauge. and ummm... oh yeah my water temp gauge pretty much serves to fill a hole and back up the stock ect sensor .
From : roy
moparman wrote has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website i used that on a 2k and it was in they way too much and at time a pia to see. i took it off after a couple of weeks. try the mount on the top of the dash. roy i have enough gauges without adding more. i dont care what the manifold pressure is. if i had to add a gauge just because i tow allot it would be a transmission temperature gauge. with a cummins with a auto id think a fuel pressure is a must unless it is a newer model. the trans temp is a close second. it still amazes be how quickly they heat up when in reverse the temp flys up. roy ive got an 05 dually. besides what are you gonna do if your pressure drops out on the road ive got a card with a dc number on it to call if that happens. at least with a temp guage on the transmission you could pull over and wait for it to cool down before burning something up. its kinda hard to fix a fuel pressure problem when your on the road. if the lift pump fails the truck will still run. some people dont notice any loss of power at all when the lift pump fails. when the lift pump fails it puts extra stress on the injection pump causing it to fail also. if you monitor the fuel pressure you can tell when the lift pump fails and correct the problem before it causes expensive injection pump failure. fuel pressure gauge $75.00 lift pump $170.00 injection pump $1075.00 -- ken under warranty my cost will be zero. the cost maybe zero but the bs sucks. the lift pump goes we are on our ass until towed to the dealer and they order one and it gets to the dealer. the earlier ones you can pop a new lift pump on in a half hour and your on your way. i think even with the newer ones a fuel pressure gauge will give you a heads up if it starts to fail and you can still get to a dealer. beats being left at the side of the road when it fails totally. roy .
From : tom lawrence
witch you and roy have confirmed my suspisions. my only question about the dash pod would be if they have a 2 gauge mount as i only need/want the 2 extra gauges remember my truck is a 6 speed no its only a triple. cmon - you can always use an extra gauge ill get you some pictures later on tonight. currently my dash pod is out of my truck had a gauge go tilt on me - currently getting fixed by autometer so youll be able to see how it mounts how i did the wiring etc. i should be able to find some pictures of an installed pod as well. .
From : roy
moparman wrote has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website i used that on a 2k and it was in they way too much and at time a pia to see. i took it off after a couple of weeks. try the mount on the top of the dash. roy i have enough gauges without adding more. i dont care what the manifold pressure is. if i had to add a gauge just because i tow allot it would be a transmission temperature gauge. with a cummins with a auto id think a fuel pressure is a must unless it is a newer model. the trans temp is a close second. it still amazes be how quickly they heat up when in reverse the temp flys up. roy ive got an 05 dually. besides what are you gonna do if your pressure drops out on the road ive got a card with a dc number on it to call if that happens. at least with a temp guage on the transmission you could pull over and wait for it to cool down before burning something up. its kinda hard to fix a fuel pressure problem when your on the road. if the lift pump fails the truck will still run. some people dont notice any loss of power at all when the lift pump fails. when the lift pump fails it puts extra stress on the injection pump causing it to fail also. if you monitor the fuel pressure you can tell when the lift pump fails and correct the problem before it causes expensive injection pump failure. i believe with the 05s and up when they fail you are on your ass unlike the earlier models where you have some time before th ip goes away. roy fuel pressure gauge $75.00 lift pump $170.00 injection pump $1075.00 -- ken .
From : christopher thompson
thanks tom -- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd witch you and roy have confirmed my suspisions. my only question about the dash pod would be if they have a 2 gauge mount as i only need/want the 2 extra gauges remember my truck is a 6 speed no its only a triple. cmon - you can always use an extra gauge ill get you some pictures later on tonight. currently my dash pod is out of my truck had a gauge go tilt on me - currently getting fixed by autometer so youll be able to see how it mounts how i did the wiring etc. i should be able to find some pictures of an installed pod as well. .
From : tom lawrence
sorry i didnt get to this last night... first heres the wiring from the dash - i ran it up alongside one of the defroster ducts. the connector is an 8-position molex connector from radio shack http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence51/dashwiring.jpg heres a close-up of the pod sitting on top of the removable dash cover. as you could see in the previous pic this dash cover piece is just held in with spring clips - very easy to pop out http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence51/dashpod.jpg heres a shot of the wiring inside the pod. you can see the matching molex connector that connects to the dash wiring. the aluminum bar across the pod holds two captive nuts which is how the pod mounts to the cover note two matching holes in the dash cover for the screws. i drilled the big hole with a hole saw for the connector/wiring to pass through. once installed the connector tucks up inside the empty space in the pod behind the gauges. for reference heres a picture from approximately drivers eye height of the column-mounted gauges. its not quite as bad in reality as this picture makes it look but i do have to move my head and peer around the gauges to see things like the odometer and lower indicator lights http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence51/columnpod.jpg .
From : christopher thompson
thanks again tom. im gonna hang on to this one so ill have it for ref when im a little closer to actually buying the parts. ive got my eye on the bd tripple dog programmer and the rest of the gauges i want as my next 2 things to do to the truck. hopefully comming soon *big grin* -- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd sorry i didnt get to this last night... first heres the wiring from the dash - i ran it up alongside one of the defroster ducts. the connector is an 8-position molex connector from radio shack http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence51/dashwiring.jpg heres a close-up of the pod sitting on top of the removable dash cover. as you could see in the previous pic this dash cover piece is just held in with spring clips - very easy to pop out http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence51/dashpod.jpg heres a shot of the wiring inside the pod. you can see the matching molex connector that connects to the dash wiring. the aluminum bar across the pod holds two captive nuts which is how the pod mounts to the cover note two matching holes in the dash cover for the screws. i drilled the big hole with a hole saw for the connector/wiring to pass through. once installed the connector tucks up inside the empty space in the pod behind the gauges. for reference heres a picture from approximately drivers eye height of the column-mounted gauges. its not quite as bad in reality as this picture makes it look but i do have to move my head and peer around the gauges to see things like the odometer and lower indicator lights http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence51/columnpod.jpg .
From : tom lawrence
im a little closer to actually buying the parts. ive got my eye on the bd tripple dog programmer and the rest of the gauges i want as my next 2 things to do to the truck. hopefully comming soon *big grin* make sure before you commit to a programmer that you give the smarty a look http//www.madselectronics.com/products.html marcos been doing ecm reprogramming for years now and his catcher ecms for the older 24v engines have been highly regarded. .
From : roy
im a little closer to actually buying the parts. ive got my eye on the bd tripple dog programmer and the rest of the gauges i want as my next 2 things to do to the truck. hopefully comming soon *big grin* make sure before you commit to a programmer that you give the smarty a look http//www.madselectronics.com/products.html marcos been doing ecm reprogramming for years now and his catcher ecms for the older 24v engines have been highly regarded. they are quite the toy. a friend who has a 06 p/s uses one. ive driven it a lot and was really surprised at the difference it makes. the only thing is a question about dc being able to tell that youve been there and knocking a warranty claim. there is a bit of talk on the tdr about it but nothing conclusive. roy .
From : miles
christopher thompson wrote has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website im looking at adding some more gauges and looking for the best looking instalation possible. i already have my egt on the apillar using the mopar srt-10 pillar trim. why not use a 2 or 3 pod a-pillar mount looks great. .
From : tom lawrence
why not use a 2 or 3 pod a-pillar mount looks great. probably for the same reason i didnt... a desire to keep the grab handle. .
From : miles
tom lawrence wrote why not use a 2 or 3 pod a-pillar mount looks great. probably for the same reason i didnt... a desire to keep the grab handle. my 2001 ram doesnt have a driver side grab handle. steering wheel works if needed. didnt know newer ones had them. .
From : tom lawrence
my 2001 ram doesnt have a driver side grab handle. steering wheel works if needed. didnt know newer ones had them. yep - the 3rd gens introduced a drivers side grab handle http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence51/columnpod.jpg .
From : nosey
tom lawrence wrote my 2001 ram doesnt have a driver side grab handle. steering wheel works if needed. didnt know newer ones had them. yep - the 3rd gens introduced a drivers side grab handle http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence51/columnpod.jpg you could put one on a 2nd gen. http//www.dodgeram.org/tech/mods/body/grabhandle.htm -- ken .
From : tom lawrence
has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website yep. they work well but do block view of the bottoms of the speedo and tach tough to see the od/off 4x4 odometer and cruise indicators. i also have the 3-gauge dash pod that mounts on top of the dash which i also like. this doesnt block anything and is easier to read than any of the other gauge positions. i can give you a link to some pictures if you like but once youve seen one thats pretty much it. i can tell you that the fit of both the steering column mount and the dash mount are very good. if you go with the dash mount id recommend all electric gauges. this way you can use a multi-pin connector and make your own wiring harness which will let you remove the top dash panel with the gauges attached - this makes installation and service down the road very easy rather than trying to deal with any tubing connectors. if you need to use a mechanical gauge then you should get the column mount. .
From : roy
has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website i used that on a 2k and it was in they way too much and at time a pia to see. i took it off after a couple of weeks. try the mount on the top of the dash. roy .
From : roy
has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website i used that on a 2k and it was in they way too much and at time a pia to see. i took it off after a couple of weeks. try the mount on the top of the dash. roy i have enough gauges without adding more. i dont care what the manifold pressure is. if i had to add a gauge just because i tow allot it would be a transmission temperature gauge. with a cummins with a auto id think a fuel pressure is a must unless it is a newer model. the trans temp is a close second. it still amazes be how quickly they heat up when in reverse the temp flys up. roy .
From : Annonymous
so tom next time youre in dallas bring your gauge installation skills along. i have a truck that needs fuel pressure and tranny temp gauges installed. come on theres pizza and beer in it for ya. - craig c. .
From : christopher thompson
why not use a 2 or 3 pod a-pillar mount looks great. probably for the same reason i didnt... a desire to keep the grab handle. yup -- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : nosey
moparman wrote has anyone used the steering column mounts from gauge works by auto meter as found on genos garage website i used that on a 2k and it was in they way too much and at time a pia to see. i took it off after a couple of weeks. try the mount on the top of the dash. roy i have enough gauges without adding more. i dont care what the manifold pressure is. if i had to add a gauge just because i tow allot it would be a transmission temperature gauge. with a cummins with a auto id think a fuel pressure is a must unless it is a newer model. the trans temp is a close second. it still amazes be how quickly they heat up when in reverse the temp flys up. roy ive got an 05 dually. besides what are you gonna do if your pressure drops out on the road ive got a card with a dc number on it to call if that happens. at least with a temp guage on the transmission you could pull over and wait for it to cool down before burning something up. its kinda hard to fix a fuel pressure problem when your on the road. if the lift pump fails the truck will still run. some people dont notice any loss of power at all when the lift pump fails. when the lift pump fails it puts extra stress on the injection pump causing it to fail also. if you monitor the fuel pressure you can tell when the lift pump fails and correct the problem before it causes expensive injection pump failure. fuel pressure gauge $75.00 lift pump $170.00 injection pump $1075.00 -- ken .