electrical shorts
From : nick6
Q: long lol perhaps you should read and comprehend the twisted path you and your butt buddy made out of the thread. while the thread was long my input as far as the math itself goes was short. lol short... must be code talk for wrong i see ya achieved another goal i had for you the sexaul deviation remark. well almost anything you talk about the latest example being o2 sensors. once again continuing to distort the facts to suit your needs. no distortion you called someone some names before at least two people called your little game off. most people will go back and look at facts you whine till someone proves it to you. while this may be true both you and gary continue to whine and spin even when someone does prove it. lol so you admit it but its ok because you think other people do it. hell you oughta jump off a cliff cause hell other people do it. funny thing is at least five different people proved you wrong in that thread alone but you kept on going. unfortunately unlike the legal system being honest means finding the proof yourself. bullshit what it really means is that you never intend to back up any of your bull. ive backed every bit of it. you on the other hand...... lol never claimed to be a trans expert. thats a title people including yourself have labelled me with. how would i know the answer to that without even seeing it answer to what you seem to have snipped the question. sadly you often give answers based on not seeing the problem. as do you! nope. i give possibilities in order to find the solution. otoh you think youve got the solution and when someone challenges your proven facts you scurry for the spin cycle. sure you would even experts get stumped and saying that you cant figure something out is not admitting to error. ok mr politically correct then why did you try to spin it like it was a problem when you initially read the post this and just about every other thread you post to but it not working as well as you think or at least not in the way that you think. ive got you calling names using sexual innuendo back pedalling and generally replying to nothing and you think im the one on the hook well a lever puts out the same type of force that is put into it the rest should be easy to figure out. hint location of the fulcrum is everything. hint you still dont know wtf you are talking about and the fact that it has a fulcrum proves it cant so once again you lose!. an engine crane is a lever. does the engine crane lift an engine or spin it around in circles just because it has a fulcrum doesnt mean the input and output are rotational. it is not a bs line it is a fact. its a bullshit line. i asked a question about a transmission you chose to throw bullshit rather than just answer the question. i predicted you would try to stab at someone rather than just answer the question and you did exactly what i figured you would. i probably could but so can you. stop being so damn lazy and look it up yourself. i have. but with your superior skills in finding the answers to the questions i figured youd be able to do better than me. i guess not. care to try again sure making you look like an idiot and watching you dance for me is always fun. careful...... lol -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i never said that i know everything and unlike you i can and do admit to error. no you dont hence the long thread trying to get you to figure out math when using precentages long lol perhaps you should read and comprehend the twisted path you and your butt buddy made out of the thread. while the thread was long my input as far as the math itself goes was short. segueing back into why k&n filters arent the good idea they look like and going further back to... that was not me again this time it was you. i simply said that you and gary use the percentages in a misleading manor and the only thing that really matters is what each filter lets in relative to the total volume of dirt and if it is within specifications of the engine not to each other. i never said if the k&n was either good or bad. well almost anything you talk about the latest example being o2 sensors. once again continuing to distort the facts to suit your needs. most people will go back and look at facts you whine till someone proves it to you. while this may be true both you and gary continue to whine and spin even when someone does prove it. unfortunately unlike the legal system being honest means finding the proof yourself. bullshit what it really means is that you never intend to back up any of your bull. even if i were the transmission expert that you claim to be never claimed to be a trans expert. thats a title people including yourself have labelled me
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From : tbone
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From : langerhans
edtheward wrote steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote sounds like a ball joint idler arm pitman arm or tie rod end. in that order. or intermediate steering shaft. i have the same problem in my ram. bad motor mounts -- cheers bev ========================================= welcome to hell heres your accordion. .
From : max dodge
frustrated with not being able to sell my 01 dodge and needing service vehicles for the company im launching i took the plunge yesterday and bought an additional new cummins. http//utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=4526 yeah baby! - -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .
From : mac davis
that was not me again this time it was you. i simply said that you and gary use the percentages in a misleading manor and the only thing that really matters is what each filter lets in relative to the total volume of dirt if youre so damned concerned about what each filter lets in relative to the total volume of dirt then why do you deny that the k$n lets in 50% more than the oem i deny no such thing. i simply said and will continue to say that it is a meaningless value used by people like yourself to deceive. the only thing that really matters is that it filters within the required specifications. remember bonehead 3% / 2% = 150% does this make you feel better gary that you got me on a mickey mouse math error. any time i make you jump with a post is a good day .
From : moparman
vehicles for the company im launching i took the plunge yesterday and bought an additional new cummins. nice! which transmission .
From : max dodge
max dodge wrote agreed to all that you say except that you forgot to mention the possible drainage from battery acid leakage. this may be what cause the corrosion to begin with. ill counter this with the condition that i doubt it would completely drain a battery unless left for an extended time. if you are talking about a pool of battery acid somehow lying between the + and - terminals that would be a fairly high resistance although somewhat conductive. mostly it would depend on the shape of the pool. i would imagine that at 12v it would draw on the order of a few milliamps. certainly much less important than the inherent self-discharge rate of a lead-acid battery. further playing devils advocate id suggest that the resistance from a corroded cable clamp etc. could look initially like the battery was drained. depends on how you look. a voltmeter between the terminal and the clamp should reveal no potential difference. if it does make a better connection by whatever means works. ill end by saying that in disregard of all known electrical theory dc current in a 12v negative ground system acts as it sees fit at times and almost anything can happen if the system is not maintained well. lectric thangs airnt trustworthy. most of the time they are compelled to follow the laws of physics and when they misbehave there is usually a good reason if you know where and how to look. except the time i was standing inside the transmitter of an fm station tweakin on stuff and the 25kw final tube decided to jump out and bite me in the calf through a faraday shield hd grounded aluminum cage. i took 7200v at about 4a at 100mhz. burned a 2 hole in my calf vaporized the frizz on my socks and melted the sole of my hush puppies. even the factory engineers from collins couldnt figure out how that happened. .
From : langerhans
ok end of rant. it grinds me to say it but i gotta go with tbone this one time. end of electrical shorts and on to more heated seats and swamp butt. agreed to all that you say except that you forgot to mention the possible drainage from battery acid leakage. this may be what cause the corrosion to begin with. ill counter this with the condition that i doubt it would completely drain a battery unless left for an extended time. further playing devils advocate id suggest that the resistance from a corroded cable clamp etc. could look initially like the battery was drained. ill end by saying that in disregard of all known electrical theory dc current in a 12v negative ground system acts as it sees fit at times and almost anything can happen if the system is not maintained well. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. *not* x-posted to rec.sports.football.college moparman wrote residue build up around and in wires cause resististance. which act like a large capacitor dissipating electricity. we see it all the time in the computer/electronics field. thats one reason we clean the insides of them bastards. you see the same thing happen if you didnt take a shit for about a month. ive been watching this thread mainly because everytime i see the title i think no i have some electric socks but no electrical shorts. as an ee i am amused by the lack of understanding on both sides of this thread of basic electricity. the problem with corrosion in a dc circuit is that the copper oxide has a greater resistance than the copper alloy used in wire. greater dc resistance causes a greater i*r voltage drop. this converts into either a lower voltage available at the load perhaps a relay or lamp that causes it *not* to operate or generates heat which can eventually cause the insulation to melt or burn causing a potential short. unless the awg of the wire is waaaaaay underspecd even a 25% surface area corrosion shouldnt make much difference at dc. it takes a potential difference between two points before current can flow. basic kirchoffs law. resistance never looks like capacitance to a dc circuit. capacitance in series will *open* a circuit. capacitance in a parallel circuit i.e. capacitance between +12vdc and ground will tend to smooth the waveform in state changes eg. turn on/turn offs. it cant cause a short unless it ceases to be a capacitor and becomes a resistor. ok end of rant. it grinds me to say it but i gotta go with tbone this one time. end of electrical shorts and on to more heated seats and swamp butt. .
From : max dodge
or you can try this url http//home.usadatanet.net/jbplock/iso5011/spicer.htm wow forget that 50% more its like 1700% more in one case.... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. can you provide the url from k&ns website i didnt really need luck in my search. at http//www.knfilters.com/facts.htm you can find 1 you have the url from k&ns site. 2 you found k&ns own info not an objective testing of filters. for that you will need a bit of luck. 3 but since you asked.... http//www.audiworld.com/tech/eng18.shtml a gentleman uses his audi to test two filters via info from the maf seonsor. http//www.getdieselpower.com/my04dodgefiles/spicer%20filter%20testing/spicerfiltertesting.html a rather extensive test on a bunch of filters. http//www.durangoclub.com/faq/performance.html a repost of a test run by a corvette club. http//www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm a not so scientific test but informative. there is a start for you. search parameters k&n filter testing no quotes -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. can you provide the url from k&ns website i didnt really need luck in my search. at http//www.knfilters.com/facts.htm you can find to ensure our air filters provide a high level of dirt protection we regularly test our air filter designs using the testing procedure described above. those tests demonstrate k&n air filters generally achieve overall filtration efficiency in the range of 97% - 98% while some of our air filter designs have achieved levels as high as 99%. .... we encourage customers to do their homework and be aware of the filtration capabilities of an air filter before they buy. our own testing has revealed wide differences in filtering capabilities. we were surprised to see some disposable paper air filters with an overall filtration efficiency as low as 93%. it appears you selected the worst case for k&n and the best case for paper. you cant assume paper filters are 98%. unless you specify a brand that has been tested that is a mis-leading statement. i dont care what filter you like but your numbers seem to be slanted rather that stating the story as it is. if your only concern is getting a filter with the highest efficiency possible then you should probably find out which paper filters filter the best and use them but you cant just select any paper filter and think you are filtering better than a k&n. also someone mentioned that there is only so much air an engine can inhale. it is true that an engine has a fixed volume for air intake however a more restrictive filter creates a larger vaccuum causing thinner air which results in less oxygen to the engine even though the cylinder has a fixed volume. do you disagree with that thanks. max dodge wrote im not sure where the 98% number for paper comes from unless it relates to a specific brand of paper filter that has been tested or one of the best paper filters that has been tested. you cant just buy any paper filter and feel that you are filtering better than a k&n. the 98% figure for paper and the 97% figure for k&n came from k&ns website and are from testing they claim to have run. if youd like to dispute those two figures youll have to find a place that did an objective test on the k&n. however having looked for such testing in the past youll likely find what i did and that is that k&n does not filter as well as a good paper filter. i know a mustang site did a very comprehensive flow/filtration test on a number of different filters of two basic styles cannister and flat element. they found the k&n to be mid pack on both styles and worse than a couple of the well known brands. good luck in your search. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. the fallacy in mds statements are the numbers he begin with. k&ns efficiencies are between 97-98% with some as high as 99%. he conveniently chose the low end for his math. paper filters are all over the board. even though you cant see any holes some of them are as bad as 93%. im not sure where the 98% number for paper comes from unless it relates to a specific brand of paper filter that has been tested or one of the best paper filters that has been tested. you cant just buy any paper filter and feel that you are filtering better than a k&n. or you can try this url http//home.usadatanet.net/jbplock/iso5011/spicer.htm mike .
From : tbone
now perhaps you might want to read my question again and to further clarify it how does corrosion inside of the jacket only cause a drain on the battery as gary explained corrosion doesnt get inside the cable without starting somewhere on the outside. acid residue or a build up of dirt on the battery case can cause a small electrical discharge and weaken the battery so it should be cleaned off also. http//www.waynesgarage.com/docs/batterycables.htm anytime corrosion is present battery drainage can occur. corrosion inside the cable can cause a split in the insulation or be cause by moisture getting in through that break. either way the battery can drain. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. my 99 ram 2500 has a short its drawing power from somewhere and killing the battery. . i have 220000 miles on the body. do you think the ignition is to blame if not possible solutionsplease help me.! i had a similar problem once it was the cable from the battery to the starter. it looked good but when i cut it in half it was green and junkified tm. the green oxidation over the years had built up resistance in the cable and would drain the battery in a few days. i tried everything else first. if you havent change the cable yet it might be the cause. ok ill bite. how exactly does corrosion inside the cable jacket discharge the battery because dickweed..................corrosion in there is generally caused by a break in the insulation which allows water to enter which then forms the corrosion said corrosion product is conductive and discharges the battery either to ground or to another wire which is also corroded good grief......................... once again gary you jump on a thread and make an ass out of yourself. first of all we are not talking about a short which is what you are describing here. moparman clearly stated that he didnt even know that the wire was affected until he cut it open so there was no obvious breech in the wires insulation or visible corrosion forming on the outside of the wire in contact with a metal object conducing current to ground. now perhaps you might want to read my question again and to further clarify it how does corrosion inside of the jacket only cause a drain on the battery you really need to do a little growing up there dude. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
my 99 ram 2500 has a short its drawing power from somewhere and killing the battery. . i have 220000 miles on the body. do you think the ignition is to blame if not possible solutionsplease help me.! i had a similar problem once it was the cable from the battery to the starter. it looked good but when i cut it in half it was green and junkified tm. the green oxidation over the years had built up resistance in the cable and would drain the battery in a few days. i tried everything else first. if you havent change the cable yet it might be the cause. ok ill bite. how exactly does corrosion inside the cable jacket discharge the battery your kidding right why is this kidding how does added resistance on a wire that carries no current unless the starter is engaged going to discharge a battery am i missing something residue build up around and in wires cause resististance. which act like a large capacitor dissipating electricity. we see it all the time in the computer/electronics field. thats one reason we clean the insides of them bastards. you see the same thing happen if you didnt take a shit for about a month. interesting idea. ill have to think about that one for a while. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : moparman
my 99 ram 2500 has a short its drawing power from somewhere and killing the battery. . i have 220000 miles on the body. do you think the ignition is to blame if not possible solutionsplease help me.! i had a similar problem once it was the cable from the battery to the starter. it looked good but when i cut it in half it was green and junkified tm. the green oxidation over the years had built up resistance in the cable and would drain the battery in a few days. i tried everything else first. if you havent change the cable yet it might be the cause. ok ill bite. how exactly does corrosion inside the cable jacket discharge the battery because dickweed..................corrosion in there is generally caused by a break in the insulation which allows water to enter which then forms the corrosion said corrosion product is conductive and discharges the battery either to ground or to another wire which is also corroded good grief......................... .
From : tbone
jesters1 wrote thanks for the tip. i did take all the jets out and the needle and all were spotless but i will try that too to make sure there is nothing else in there. its not the stuff you can remove thats the problem its the internal tubes and vents that are. as to the float height if you can find a service manual it should have a diagram. clay .
From : moparman
it is a 2003 dodge ram 1500 .
From : tbone
thanks for the tip. i did take all the jets out and the needle and all were spotless but i will try that too to make sure there is nothing else in there. on setting float height am i supposed to measure from the top of the float if the throttle body is upside down to the flat of the body or from the bottom of the float to the indention where it goes .
From : transurgeon
can you provide the url from k&ns website i didnt really need luck in my search. at http//www.knfilters.com/facts.htm you can find 1 you have the url from k&ns site. 2 you found k&ns own info not an objective testing of filters. for that you will need a bit of luck. 3 but since you asked.... http//www.audiworld.com/tech/eng18.shtml a gentleman uses his audi to test two filters via info from the maf seonsor. http//www.getdieselpower.com/my04dodgefiles/spicer%20filter%20testing/spicerfiltertesting.html a rather extensive test on a bunch of filters. http//www.durangoclub.com/faq/performance.html a repost of a test run by a corvette club. http//www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm a not so scientific test but informative. there is a start for you. search parameters k&n filter testing no quotes -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. can you provide the url from k&ns website i didnt really need luck in my search. at http//www.knfilters.com/facts.htm you can find to ensure our air filters provide a high level of dirt protection we regularly test our air filter designs using the testing procedure described above. those tests demonstrate k&n air filters generally achieve overall filtration efficiency in the range of 97% - 98% while some of our air filter designs have achieved levels as high as 99%. .... we encourage customers to do their homework and be aware of the filtration capabilities of an air filter before they buy. our own testing has revealed wide differences in filtering capabilities. we were surprised to see some disposable paper air filters with an overall filtration efficiency as low as 93%. it appears you selected the worst case for k&n and the best case for paper. you cant assume paper filters are 98%. unless you specify a brand that has been tested that is a mis-leading statement. i dont care what filter you like but your numbers seem to be slanted rather that stating the story as it is. if your only concern is getting a filter with the highest efficiency possible then you should probably find out which paper filters filter the best and use them but you cant just select any paper filter and think you are filtering better than a k&n. also someone mentioned that there is only so much air an engine can inhale. it is true that an engine has a fixed volume for air intake however a more restrictive filter creates a larger vaccuum causing thinner air which results in less oxygen to the engine even though the cylinder has a fixed volume. do you disagree with that thanks. max dodge wrote im not sure where the 98% number for paper comes from unless it relates to a specific brand of paper filter that has been tested or one of the best paper filters that has been tested. you cant just buy any paper filter and feel that you are filtering better than a k&n. the 98% figure for paper and the 97% figure for k&n came from k&ns website and are from testing they claim to have run. if youd like to dispute those two figures youll have to find a place that did an objective test on the k&n. however having looked for such testing in the past youll likely find what i did and that is that k&n does not filter as well as a good paper filter. i know a mustang site did a very comprehensive flow/filtration test on a number of different filters of two basic styles cannister and flat element. they found the k&n to be mid pack on both styles and worse than a couple of the well known brands. good luck in your search. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. the fallacy in mds statements are the numbers he begin with. k&ns efficiencies are between 97-98% with some as high as 99%. he conveniently chose the low end for his math. paper filters are all over the board. even though you cant see any holes some of them are as bad as 93%. im not sure where the 98% number for paper comes from unless it relates to a specific brand of paper filter that has been tested or one of the best paper filters that has been tested. you cant just buy any paper filter and feel that you are filtering better than a k&n. or you can try this url http//home.usadatanet.net/jbplock/iso5011/spicer.htm mike .
From : moparman
actually i flat out asked you why it was ok for him to do it but not me and as usual you were unable to answer even simple question and instead tried to spin it into something else. talk about predictable. why would i address garys actions with you predictable has nothing to do with it placing responsibility with the person who is responsible has everything to do with it. youve now proven my assertion that you never take personal responsibility for what you do. lol only in maxworld. yeah sorta like only in tbone world where you dont have time to leap on my hell anyones word in an effort to prove yourself superior. you got right on this one. so.... have at it i have a meeting tonight. i expect an answer in no more than 10 minutes and please make it as egotistical as possible while blaming everyone but yourself for your behavior. if i come back and you havent jumped all over it well know the reverse psychology is working. if you have jumped all over it well know your in it just for the bullshit like we said you were. thanks for walking right into a catch-22 and have a nice night. max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. lookit that three more times where you justify being an ass by pointing at someone else and saying but he did it tooo!! actually i flat out asked you why it was ok for him to do it but not me and as usual you were unable to answer even simple question and instead tried to spin it into something else. talk about predictable. youve now proven my assertion that you never take personal responsibility for what you do. lol only in maxworld. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : joe brophy
the airbag light came on for an unknown reason in our truck and was wondering if any of you mechanics could help out with an answer on why and also how to fix it .
From : Annonymous
wow. i was going to reply -- after 28 years the original wiring harness still there actually pretty unlikely that it would still be there on a 97. on sun 26 jun 2005 142536 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote i have a 1977 dodge ram 1500 considering the change to the 4-digit designations didnt occur until 1994 id say thats pretty rare sorry i meant 1997. cant seem to find it. any other tips on what it is im looking for exactly yeah - they really like to hide them sometimes. under the dash on the firewall will be a big maybe 3x4 plug with about 100 wires coming from it. check around there or even tucked behind it for the blue 4-pin connector. at other times they tuck it behind the trim/padding next to the emergency brake. thanks. ill take a harder look around and behind things. ** due to spam i no longer receive email responses to ** group postings so dont bother. .