electrical question

From : mowingy

Q: good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. .

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From : Annonymous

on wed 16 may 2007 165342 gmt snotard admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 142852 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote snotard is not someone that you should put any confidence in at all. there are times when he is right but its just a coincidence. he posts so often that hes bound to be right once in a while. never the less wait for another answer. other than sheryl steve the boob and comboverboy no one listens to snotard. such inmaturity..... look sooner or later you are gonna have to look that word up and spell it correctly. now i am not a stickler on grammar or spelling but you use the word almost daily. in that case you should at least take the time to get it right. btw just look as the groups and you can see who the reall bs kings are and who likes you hear themselves talk i guess it helps them feel complete. yeah thats it moron. what an asshat. i just like the fame of seeing my writing appear on the internet in this ng. that makes me feel complete. man you are an incredible moron. just a warning thats all. no this is just the ramblings of a very insecure troll. well you are right when you wrote this as in referring to your statement. you are indeed a very insecure troll well ok actually a very insecure moron but i wanted to affirm your comments. most trolls like this do not even use real email ids either because they cannot stand for anything but bs. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : snoman

on wed 16 may 2007 142852 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote snotard is not someone that you should put any confidence in at all. there are times when he is right but its just a coincidence. he posts so often that hes bound to be right once in a while. never the less wait for another answer. other than sheryl steve the boob and comboverboy no one listens to snotard. such inmaturity..... btw just look as the groups and you can see who the reall bs kings are and who likes you hear themselves talk i guess it helps them feel complete. just a warning thats all. no this is just the ramblings of a very insecure troll. most trolls like this do not even use real email ids either because they cannot stand for anything but bs. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : snoman

on wed 16 may 2007 174909 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 165342 gmt snotard admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 142852 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote snotard is not someone that you should put any confidence in at all. there are times when he is right but its just a coincidence. he posts so often that hes bound to be right once in a while. never the less wait for another answer. other than sheryl steve the boob and comboverboy no one listens to snotard. such inmaturity..... look sooner or later you are gonna have to look that word up and spell it correctly. now i am not a stickler on grammar or spelling but you use the word almost daily. in that case you should at least take the time to get it right. sooner or later you are going to have to grow up. i do not get upset about my typos or others either but the child in you seems focused on this. btw just look as the groups and you can see who the reall bs kings are and who likes you hear themselves talk i guess it helps them feel complete. yeah thats it moron. what an asshat. i just like the fame of seeing my writing appear on the internet in this ng. that makes me feel complete. man you are an incredible moron. tisk tisk does name calling make you feel more grown up it must. some may laugh with you but others are laughing at your immaturity just a warning thats all. no this is just the ramblings of a very insecure troll. well you are right when you wrote this as in referring to your statement. you are indeed a very insecure troll well ok actually a very insecure moron but i wanted to affirm your comments. no other san see because you are the one that cam out like a child calling names not me. yes affirm that you are a child like troll that gets his fix with name calling and attacking things they do not understand most trolls like this do not even use real email ids either because they cannot stand for anything but bs. ----------------- thesnoman.com btw i will not answer anymore posts from you in this thread because honstly it makes me feel funny to even try to breifly converse with you on your immature level. my silence is not a blessing that you are right but rather a sign i am not going to waste my time with you anymore on this thread. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : azwiley1

on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. .

From : azwiley1

on may 16 953 am snoman a...@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 142852 gmt the...@whatever.net wrote snotard is not someone that you should put any confidence in at all. there are times when he is right but its just a coincidence. he posts so often that hes bound to be right once in a while. never the less wait for another answer. other than sheryl steve the boob and comboverboy no one listens to snotard. such inmaturity..... btw just look as the groups and you can see who the reall bs kings are and who likes you hear themselves talk i guess it helps them feel complete. yup just look at the group. specifically look at my thread from yesterday titles ot blow out. feel free to read the info that snotard is spewing in there. just a warning thats all. no this is just the ramblings of a very insecure troll. most trolls like this do not even use real email ids either because they cannot stand for anything but bs. really what about you when has anyone ever addressed you by your real name never as i recall why because no one in here knows it because you dont use it. contrary to your other statement most in here do use a real and valid email address though it is jumbled to prevernt idiots like you from spamming them. might hypocritical of you to flame some one else for the exact same thing you do. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : Annonymous

on wed 16 may 2007 180031 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 174909 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 165342 gmt snotard admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 142852 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote snotard is not someone that you should put any confidence in at all. there are times when he is right but its just a coincidence. he posts so often that hes bound to be right once in a while. never the less wait for another answer. other than sheryl steve the boob and comboverboy no one listens to snotard. such inmaturity..... look sooner or later you are gonna have to look that word up and spell it correctly. now i am not a stickler on grammar or spelling but you use the word almost daily. in that case you should at least take the time to get it right. sooner or later you are going to have to grow up. i do not get upset about my typos or others either but the child in you seems focused on this. thats the thing.......i dont ever have to grow up. but in reality i try not to focus on you its just that you so stupid that i cant ignore the crap you write. btw just look as the groups and you can see who the reall bs kings are and who likes you hear themselves talk i guess it helps them feel

From : azwiley1

btw i will not answer anymore posts from you in this thread because honstly it makes me feel funny to even try to breifly converse with you on your immature level. my silence is not a blessing that you are right but rather a sign i am not going to waste my time with you anymore on this thread. any chance you could make this a goup wide thing as opposed to just this thread .

From : Annonymous

on 16 may 2007 184825 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote btw i will not answer anymore posts from you in this thread because honstly it makes me feel funny to even try to breifly converse with you on your immature level. my silence is not a blessing that you are right but rather a sign i am not going to waste my time with you anymore on this thread. any chance you could make this a goup wide thing as opposed to just this thread nice point. .

From : big al

on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. no problem with the alternator however you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. or connect the trailer battery through a switch and try to remember to flip the switch when you need to charge the trailer battery and when you shut the truck off. id go with a relay. use heavy wire to connect the two batteries and make sure the trailer has a ground wire to the truck. dont trust the ball as a ground path. if you need help wiring the relay send me an email. al .

From : azwiley1

on may 16 1141 pm big al s...@qwest.net wrote on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. no problem with the alternator however you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. or connect the trailer battery through a switch and try to remember to flip the switch when you need to charge the trailer battery and when you shut the truck off. id go with a relay. use heavy wire to connect the two batteries and make sure the trailer has a ground wire to the truck. dont trust the ball as a ground path. if you need help wiring the relay send me an email. al- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yeah never ground anything with your balls! lol .

From : beryl

punkinbread on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. but mowingy already knows about the hd alternator he doesnt have it and its kind of late to opt for it now. so whats your advice do you recommend that he go ahead and replace his -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

big al wrote on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. no problem with the alternator however you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. that will be a good thing. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. or connect the trailer battery through a switch and try to remember to flip the switch when you need to charge the trailer battery and when you shut the truck off. id go with a relay. use heavy wire to connect the two batteries and make sure the trailer has a ground wire to the truck. dont trust the ball as a ground path. and he means *heavy* wire. the ground has to be just as heavy too. if you need help wiring the relay send me an email. the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. two batteries in parallel isnt the best setup either. the weaker battery will draw the stronger one down to its level. this may not matter much with a popup camping trailer that sees only occasional use but is a poor design when two or more batteries are always tied together. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : snoman

on wed 16 may 2007 054719 -0400 mowingy mowingy@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. there is no cause for concern here at all with alternator. i would suggest that you supply 12 volts to trailer that is switched on when vehicle is running so that you do not run down vehicle battery when it is plugged in and vehicle is off and camper it used a lot. that or make sure to unplug trailer feed when using 12 volts a lot in it. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : Annonymous

on wed 16 may 2007 120429 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 054719 -0400 mowingy mowingy@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. there is no cause for concern here at all with alternator. i would suggest that you supply 12 volts to trailer that is switched on when vehicle is running so that you do not run down vehicle battery when it is plugged in and vehicle is off and camper it used a lot. that or make sure to unplug trailer feed when using 12 volts a lot in it. ----------------- thesnoman.com snotard is not someone that you should put any confidence in at all. there are times when he is right but its just a coincidence. he posts so often that hes bound to be right once in a while. never the less wait for another answer. other than sheryl steve the boob and comboverboy no one listens to snotard. just a warning thats all. .

From : chris thompson

on wed 16 may 2007 054719 -0400 mowingy wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i see no issue with hooking up the factory 12v supply to the trailer. your alternator i dont imagine would be in any danger. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .

From : bob

mowingy wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. it depends. the stock alternator is a quality piece. it will last for a long time. 100k miles and 10 years is not uncommon. but the stock alternator is designed to handle the electrical load of the truck as supplied from the factory and thats about it. if youve added some heavy duty electrical components to your truck lights stereo it may be close to overloaded now. adding a deep cycle battery with a heavy discharge could create a problem. especially at night. imagine this scenario. youve been camping all week end. the trailer battery is quite low. now its dark and time to go home. hook up the trailer turn on the lights and drive away. your stock alternator is trying to charge both batteries and run all the lights. i would go to the bone yard and find an alternator from a truck with a tow package. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : roy

big al wrote on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. no problem with the alternator however you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. that will be a good thing. that was profound. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. or connect the trailer battery through a switch and try to remember to flip the switch when you need to charge the trailer battery and when you shut the truck off. id go with a relay. use heavy wire to connect the two batteries and make sure the trailer has a ground wire to the truck. dont trust the ball as a ground path. and he means *heavy* wire. the ground has to be just as heavy too. how heavy would you use .

From : roy

roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy .

From : beryl

roy wrote big al wrote on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. no problem with the alternator however you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. that will be a good thing. that was profound. no not really. but big al indicated that he thought otherwise you didnt read so i thought it was worth saying. now if we were talking about a motorcycle with a bitty battery then yes id isolate a big car battery from the starter motor. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. or connect the trailer battery through a switch and try to remember to flip the switch when you need to charge the trailer battery and when you shut the truck off. id go with a relay. use heavy wire to connect the two batteries and make sure the trailer has a ground wire to the truck. dont trust the ball as a ground path. and he means *heavy* wire. the ground has to be just as heavy too. how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : roy

roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy what happened to ya crotch cannibal i thought youd be responding to dazzle us with all your electrical and mechanical knowledge. guess the idiot didnt like the slap on the ass and is having you perform. well when your mouth is m/t and youve cleaned up gargled and all get back to us. .

From : azwiley1

what the fuck are you talking about in addition to this if you had a basic grasp of the english lanuage and knew how to read based off his bullshit he did state to over inflate the tires. no tbone told you what he actually stated. he understood. i understood. whats your problem man you really need to learn how to read tbones comment was in reply to something roy said not me. but then again if you actually read all that was posted including that by your hero and lover you would grasp that. instead you are a slimpy low-life cum swollowing dick licking troll that has a fetish fasination for me. second of all i did snip out to where i wanted too because i was only addressing one very specific portion of it and that is all i wanted to address. big fucking deal everyone does that. liars do that. you misquoted him then accused him of giving dangerous information. everybody following this thread saw what you did. oh so now im a liar coming from you i take that for what it is worth nothing. . 222 335178 1179501090.134352.93340@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com on may 17 1054 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinbread on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. but mowingy already knows about the hd alternator he doesnt have it and its kind of late to opt for it now. so whats your advice do you recommend that he go ahead and replace his man you are really stupid. yes that is my recommendation but i bet you already knew that you just want to the cocksucking ass licking hermorphodite sp that you are. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : azwiley1

on may 18 245 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote roy wrote big al wrote on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. no problem with the alternator however you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. that will be a good thing. that was profound. no not really. but big al indicated that he thought otherwise you didnt read so i thought it was worth saying. now if we were talking about a motorcycle with a bitty battery then yes id isolate a big car battery from the starter motor. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. or connect the trailer battery through a switch and try to remember to flip the switch when you need to charge the trailer battery and when you shut the truck off. id go with a relay. use heavy wire to connect the two batteries and make sure the trailer has a ground wire to the truck. dont trust the ball as a ground path. and he means *heavy* wire. the ground has to be just as heavy too. how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. im sorry in all the years i have been working on cars to including the creation and installation of competition stereo systmes i have never heard of a wire a heavy there are gauges from 00 to 1/0 to 22. so what is it hell tell me this what size is the cabling in a set of jumper cables .

From : bryan

azwiley1 wrote beryl wrote roy wrote beryl wrote big al wrote azwiley1 wrote mowingy wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. no problem with the alternator however you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. that will be a good thing. that was profound. no not really. but big al indicated that he thought otherwise you didnt read so i thought it was worth saying. now if we were talking about a motorcycle with a bitty battery then yes id isolate a big car battery from the starter motor. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. or connect the trailer battery through a switch and try to remember to flip the switch when you need to charge the trailer battery and when you shut the truck off. id go with a relay. use heavy wire to connect the two batteries and make sure the trailer has a ground wire to the truck. dont trust the ball as a ground path. and he means *heavy* wire. the ground has to be just as heavy too. how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. im sorry in all the years i have been working on cars to including the creation and installation of competition stereo systmes i have never heard of a wire a heavy there are gauges from 00 to 1/0 to 22. so what is it hell tell me this what size is the cabling in a set of jumper cables when i set up my 77 d200 for my superwench s3500 i used 1/0 welding cable to feed the 175a disconnects at the front & rear. i didnt *need* to go that large but the wire wasnt too expensive at the time and its what the pins for the connectors would fit. at the same time i installed dual interstate group 27 workaholic batteries with a solenoid between them. the solenoid is energized from the accessory feed de-energized during cranking. the winch is powered from the 2nd battery. later i fabricated a set of jumper cables from 1/0. the cables have a connector on one end that will plug into the 175a connector... i can jump-start someone from either end of my truck. bryan .

From : beryl

bryan wrote azwiley1 wrote im sorry in all the years i have been working on cars to including the creation and installation of competition stereo systmes i have never heard of a wire a heavy there are gauges from 00 to 1/0 to 22. so what is it hell tell me this what size is the cabling in a set of jumper cables hell what you idiot mine are 4 awg. you think theyre all the same when i set up my 77 d200 for my superwench s3500 i used 1/0 welding cable to feed the 175a disconnects at the front & rear. i didnt *need* to go that large but the wire wasnt too expensive at the time and its what the pins for the connectors would fit. at the same time i installed dual interstate group 27 workaholic batteries with a solenoid between them. the solenoid is energized from the accessory feed de-energized during cranking. the winch is powered from the 2nd battery. later i fabricated a set of jumper cables from 1/0. the cables have a connector on one end that will plug into the 175a connector... i can jump-start someone from either end of my truck. bryan excellent but i think you lost punkin there. he installs car stereos. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

punkin on may 17 1054 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinbread on may 16 247 am mowingy mowi...@monmouth.com wrote good morning just purchased a small used popup camper to pull behind my 02 dakota v6. the dak does not have a trailer tow package or hd alternator. the popup has a 12v battery for interior lights etc. is it a problem to charge this battery by hooking up a wire from the + battery terminal in the dak or will this possibly overload the alternator tia for any advice. i do not believe that you would have a problem with this as long as the factory alt is not bad to begin with. personally i would opt for the high output hd alt as it would only serve you well to prevent any possible issues down the road. but mowingy already knows about the hd alternator he doesnt have it and its kind of late to opt for it now. so whats your advice do you recommend that he go ahead and replace his man you are really stupid. yes that is my recommendation but i bet based on what information you just wasted the customers money punkin nice work. you are the auto technician that we all strive to avoid. you already knew that you just want to the cocksucking ass licking hermorphodite sp that you are. puhleeze punkin no borrowing of jokes is permitted. crag says so. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

roy wrote roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy *wow* your replies are getting short! there were several points worthy of further discussion where did everything go my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote we can argue if you like neil but i might end up naming you nell. then youd get upset. is that what you want beryl i offered an explanation as to why your deductions were in error. apparently it upsets you that you were wrong and that i know more about the subject than you. ill make it real simple. assume you have at least seven fingers and/or toes left there are seven output circuits from the ignition switch on a 2002 dodge dakota; circuit #2 is hot in the run and start position. circuit #3 is hot in the run and start position circuit #7 is hot in the run position only circuit #8 is hot in the run position only circuit #9 is hot in the run position and the accessory position circuit #10 is hot in the run position and the accessory position circuit #13 is hot in the start position only from the above factory information it is easy to see that it is possible to tap into two of these circuits to trigger an auxiliary battery isolation relay so that the relay would -only- be energized when the ignition switch is in the engine running position the relay would -not- be energized during engine crank and the relay would not be energized if the ignition switch were in the accessory position. if i were wiring this relay for a customer i would not wire it as big al suggested not because his way wouldnt work but because his way leaves an error mode that the customer may not realize resulting in a drained vehicle battery. iows because of certain people who cant fathom how a battery isolation circuit works things have to be made as idiot proof as possible. now feel free to call me any name that you choose; nell nellybell bob and neil aardvark punkin sweetcheeks hermaphrodite etc. because after all there is nothing wrong with one more confirmation from you of what type of person you really are. fyi if there was even the slightest chance that anything you say could upset me why would i bother explaining your error to you or say thank you for giving you a bit of free education. .

From : beryl

neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote we can argue if you like neil but i might end up naming you nell. then youd get upset. is that what you want beryl i offered an explanation as to why your deductions were in error. apparently it upsets you that you were wrong and that i know more about the subject than you. ill make it real simple. assume you have at least seven fingers and/or toes left there are seven output circuits from the ignition switch on a 2002 dodge dakota; circuit #2 is hot in the run and start position. circuit #3 is hot in the run and start position circuit #7 is hot in the run position only circuit #8 is hot in the run position only circuit #9 is hot in the run position and the accessory position circuit #10 is hot in the run position and the accessory position circuit #13 is hot in the start position only from the above factory information it is easy to see that it is possible to tap into two of these circuits to trigger an auxiliary battery isolation relay so that the relay would -only- be energized when the ignition switch is in the engine running position the relay would -not- be energized during engine crank and the relay would not be energized if the ignition switch were in the accessory position. if i were wiring this relay for a customer i would not wire it as big al suggested finally! there goes the circuit you began arguing with me about. poof exactly as i said nell you dont really care about what big al said so youll just ramble on about your circuit instead. not because his way wouldnt work but because his way leaves an error mode that the customer may not realize resulting in a drained vehicle battery. didnt i just say that nell when you asked can you think of a way one might have an advantage over the other iows because of certain people who cant fathom how a battery isolation circuit works things have to be made as idiot proof as possible. now feel free to call me any name that you choose; nell nell will be good. nellybell bob and neil aardvark punkin sweetcheeks hermaphrodite etc. because after all there is nothing wrong with one more confirmation from you of what type of person you really are. fyi if there was even the slightest chance that anything you say could upset me why would i bother explaining your error to you a better question nell why were and are you intent on ignoring what al was describing and instead explaining your truely bitchin and amazing this circuit instead or say thank you for giving you a bit of free education. that was dazzling nell. well at least i now know the seven output circuits from the ignition switch on a 2002 dodge dakota that i dont own thanks so much. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : azwiley1

never did! so why did you whine that he didnt answer it what the fuck are you talking about it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it -punkin in addition to this if you had a basic grasp of the english lanuage and knew how to read based off his bullshit he did state to over inflate the tires. no tbone told you what he actually stated. he understood. i understood. whats your problem man you really need to learn how to read tbones comment was in reply to something roy said not me. but then again if you actually read i actually did read punkin. his reply was to you. that is not what he said. -tbone if you and roy for that matter actually bothered to read what he said you would have seen just as i did that he did say not to exceed maximum rated cold pressure. -tbone his actual statement was it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire -tbone and he was the one to put the limitation in parentheses so he didnt say to crank up the pressure to dangerous limits. -tbone if you are going to attack the guy at least wait until he gets it wrong or the only one looking like a fool is the one making the attack. -tbone all that was posted including that by your hero and lover you would grasp that. instead you are a slimpy low-life cum swollowing dick licking troll that has a fetish fasination for me. second of all i did snip out to where i wanted too because i was only addressing one very specific portion of it and that is all i wanted to address. big fucking deal everyone does that. liars do that. you misquoted him then accused him of giving dangerous information. everybody following this thread saw what you did. oh so now im a liar coming from you i take that for what it is worth nothing. yes punky little man you are a liar. not because it comes from me. really who does it come from and can you prove it other then in the manner that you want to twist words. as to the rest of it once again you need to learn to read. i did not as you say attack you lover trust me if i wanted to i would have. however as per his usual tactic he start spewing his bullshit about how the blow out i had was directly related to under inflated tires. he made this assumption based off lack of knowledge knowledge that was not provided because i was not asking what caused this if that is what i was looking for then your lover woudl have been correct in his statements. funny though once i proved him wrong about the fact that the tires were not under inflated that in fact they were inflated exactly where they should have been he stopped spewing his information. i suppose that you over looked as usual that little fact huh .

From : roy

i refer you to my previous post. circular reasoning. no repetitive whining on your part. i answered the question you asked it again i gave you the same answer wtf did you expect vent valve doesnt describe a tube. not knowing the diesel you cant know that this engine is one. um i do know the diesel i own one and am familiar with its vent system. this isnt your email inbox its a group. 90% of the people reading dont know and they saw what happens. matters not where the question landed. i answered it you challeneged my knowledge and you were wrong to do so. second in the 3500 series of trucks its either a diesel or a v10 as they accounted for the majority of sales and any fool let alone those of us who know something buying one of those would choose a diesel or v10 over the 360 any day. since the pcv system wont leak oil externally....... but you and snohead knew that right i dont know that it wont then you dont know enough to be commenting on my post. exactly. but i didnt know that. then why would you comment on my post repeatedly shut up already. welcome to a.a.d.t since you dont know when someone might know what you dont you dont know enough to comment. go away. wtf are you talking about as robin williams once said assholes do vex me!!! -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author max dodge wrote given that only the cummins trucks have a vent and that the gasoline engines havent got a vent but a positive crankcase ventilation system its reasonable to assume that the op has a diesel. thats the absurd thing about this thread. the op gave almost nothing to go on i have a 99 dodge ram 3500 and it has just started leaking oil from the blow by vent valve. i refer you to my previous post. circular reasoning. vent valve doesnt describe a tube. not knowing the diesel you cant know that this engine is one. um i do know the diesel i own one and am familiar with its vent system. this isnt your email inbox its a group. 90% of the people reading dont know and they saw what happens. second in the 3500 series of trucks its either a diesel or a v10 as they accounted for the majority of sales and any fool let alone those of us who know something buying one of those would choose a diesel or v10 over the 360 any day. since the pcv system wont leak oil externally....... but you and snohead knew that right i dont know that it wont then you dont know enough to be commenting on my post. exactly. but i didnt know that. welcome to a.a.d.t since you dont know when someone might know what you dont you dont know enough to comment. go away. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

on may 25 402 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin on may 25 251 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote skippy lol! i guess that the problem was in the hydraulics but the symptoms that he described did not look that way. thats why this group is pretty cool. ya get a bunch off different thoughts. i disagree. 99 dodge ram 3500-leaking oil from blow by vent valve shows why anybody ought to be reluctant to offer their ideas in this group. oh that is great advice. lets see here if a question is posted and a life history is not provided no one should offer any suggestions. what the hell good would the group be if everyone just sat here like you with a dick in your hand sorry you didnt see the knife punkin. go get yourself a new dick. if you are trying to make a laraina bobbit reference you are wasting you time. first there is no way in hell i would ever let you near me. second of all with the known fact that you perform donkey shows down in tj we all know that no man would satisfy you. .

From : beryl

punkin on may 17 1020 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. example nascar underinflates tires during a pit stop because they know that it will increase as they get hot. while true they do not do this just to avoid exceeding max cold pressure as im sure that you know so what exactly does this have to do with the thread in general. . by your logic though contrary to all reputable sources i should have actually inflated my tires to 71.5 psi some 6.5 pounds more than the maximum recommended cold psi of 65 that is not what he said. per his very first post this is exactly what he said read the damn thing before you start sound more like barrel! as per typical snojob tactic when he got called on a statement he chaged it but you would have seen that if you had read it just as you say that roy and i need to. funny though you didnt. i wonder just what the ap in the tires would have been at the time of the blow out had i followed this logic never mind the fact that it was over 100 out side and the road was prob close to 150. i would be willing to bet that i would not have been as lucky as i was had i followed your recommendations a blowout is a blowout so what real difference would 6.5 lbs have made i think we have yet another perfect example of information being given out by snoman that is extremely dangerous and in this case could cost someone their life. thanks fuck nuts. if you and roy for that matter actually bothered to read what he said you would have seen just as i did that he did say not to exceed maximum rated cold pressure. his actual statement was it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire and he was the one to put the limitation in parentheses so he didnt say to crank up the pressure to dangerous limits. if you are going to attack the guy at least wait until he gets it wrong or the only one looking like a fool is the one making the attack. first off tbone you need to go back and read the entire damn thread this is not the statement that made in his very first post in the thread these statement were made after roy got on him. too late punkin. youre not confusing anybody by switching snomans first post with the one you misquoted. he posted this it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire which you manipulated into this it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving so you clearly knew you were lying when you wrote i think we have yet another perfect example of information being given out by snoman that is extremely dangerous and in this case could cost someone their life. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin . 222 335215 134tb13fs91u651@corp.super.com punkin on may 18 941 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote bryan wrote azwiley1 wrote im sorry in all the years i have been working on cars to including the creation and installation of competition stereo systmes i have never heard of a wire a heavy there are gauges from 00 to 1/0 to 22. so what is it hell tell me this what size is the cabling in a set of jumper cables hell what you idiot mine are 4 awg. you think theyre all the same when i set up my 77 d200 for my superwench s3500 i used 1/0 welding cable to feed the 175a disconnects at the front & rear. i didnt *need* to go that large but the wire wasnt too expensive at the time and its what the pins for the connectors would fit. at the same time i installed dual interstate group 27 workaholic batteries with a solenoid between them. the solenoid is energized from the accessory feed de-energized during cranking. the winch is powered from the 2nd battery. later i fabricated a set of jumper cables from 1/0. the cables have a connector on one end that will plug into the 175a connector... i can jump-start someone from either end of my truck. bryan excellent but i think you lost punkin there. he installs car stereos. no asshole once again you are wrong. first i used to install car audio and electronics which if you knew anyting about where i worked and who our clients were involved a lot more then what you think. second of all just like every other time you open your mouth you are making stupid statements based of no fact no knowledge and simply because you have obsolute

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. apparently you dont understand the function of the relay in this circuit or how it works. when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. two batteries in parallel isnt the best setup either. the weaker battery will draw the stronger one down to its level. wont happen. the only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicles engine is running via the now energized isolation relay if the engine is running the circuit voltage to both batteries is higher that the static open circuit voltage of the batteries the batteries are now being charged there is no weaker battery. differences in internal resistance between the two batteries will cause the battery with lower resistance to draw more current but that is the only difference. this may not matter much with a popup camping trailer that sees only occasional use but is a poor design when two or more batteries are always tied together. the batteries -arent- always tied together. the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. you should endeavor to learn how a properly connected isolation relay works. assuming that you can find time in between calling people names .

From : beryl

neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. apparently you dont understand the function of the relay in this circuit or how it works. there is no this circuit. big al described this you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. and youre going on to describe something *entirely different* below. when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. two batteries in parallel isnt the best setup either. the weaker battery will draw the stronger one down to its level. wont happen. the only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicles engine is running via the now energized isolation relay if the engine is running the circuit voltage to both batteries is higher that the static open circuit voltage of the batteries the batteries are now being charged there is no weaker battery. differences in internal resistance between the two batteries will cause the battery with lower resistance to draw more current but that is the only difference. this may not matter much with a popup camping trailer that sees only occasional use but is a poor design when two or more batteries are always tied together. the batteries -arent- always tied together. the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. you should endeavor to learn how a properly connected isolation relay works. assuming that you can find time in between calling people names boo-hoo. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

nell beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote we can argue if you like neil but i might end up naming you nell. then youd get upset. is that what you want beryl nell i want you to pick up where skippy bailed out. i simply copy/pasted it youll have to mentally substitute nell wherever you see the name skippy. --------------------------- my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy --------------------------- -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : neil nelson

.... on may 23 944 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote either you have a bad or plugged pcv valve pcv.... on a diesel.... now thats funny. what i want to know is what told you its a diesel all 99 dodge ram 3500 are tell me - what do you think would happen if you introduced crankcase vapors - oil mist - to the intake of a running diesel the whole purpose of the vent tube is to ventilate the crankcase. up until 00 the crankcase was simply vented to the atmosphere. then dc added a catch bottle to be emptied at each oil change. the hpcr version of the isb saw the introduction of a crankcase breather system which attempts to return the oil to the crankcase while still venting the case to the outside. this works better but still isnt 100%. in other words as others here who actually own operate and maintain these exact engines tried to tell you its normal operation. remember our discussion from last week youre doing it again... now now tom. apparently it is acceptable for him to spout off incorrect and bogus information. havent you been following along with the lessons the new group netnanny a.ak.a reststop ricky has been spouting off shame shame. g punkin tom doesnt want a child clinging to him. hes got a good record here hes honest and hes able to both agree and disagree with snoman as he sees appropriate. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote a better question nell why were and are you intent on ignoring what al was describing and instead explaining your truely bitchin and amazing this circuit instead because your original ignorant belief was that the way big al had connected the isolation relay would only provide battery isolation during cranking. you claimed; the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. aside from older volkswagens do you know of any vehicles where the radio is allowed to be powered when the ignition is switched off which is the typical state when a vehicle is parked that certainly isnt the way an 02 dakota is wired. so to answer your question bberryll; because you just couldnt think your way thru the obvious there bberryll. big als way would isolate the batteries contrary to your erroneous conclusion. you *might* have been correct if you had qualified your claim with parked and listing to the tow vehicles radio. but you didnt which makes you not all that clever. simply put; why do i keep having to do this for you you were more wrong than big al was. or say thank you for giving you a bit of free education. that was dazzling nell. given your lack of critical thinking skills plus your non existent electrical skills im sure it was. well at least i now know the seven output circuits from the ignition switch on a 2002 dodge dakota that i dont own thanks so much. feel free to save it somewhere maybe you can pass it on to someone in the future and at least -appear- to have some value to society. i realize that the high schools now days dont really teach much past what is in actuality the sixth grade level so on behalf of big al myself and the rest of the group please accept my our apologies that this went so fucking far over your pointy little head. .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote nell beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote we can argue if you like neil but i might end up naming you nell. then youd get upset. is that what you want beryl nell i want you to pick up where skippy bailed out. i simply copy/pasted it youll have to mentally substitute nell wherever you see the name skippy. --------------------------- my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! i routinely use a 12 volt motorcycle battery as a back up power supply when replacing batteries on vehicles where there is a risk of locking out a radio erasing seat/mirror/steering column/radio memory settings on mercedes-benz vehicles which have a chronic pattern failure where the front and rear body computers sams will not re-boot after a power down. ive been using the same motorcycle battery for quite a few years with no ill effect to the motorcycle battery *any* vehicle battery *any* charging system. most trailer break away devices are nothing more than a wet cell motorcycle battery which is connected in parallel to the tow vehicles 12 volt supply system. draw your own conclusions. how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they its the standard set up on their diesel engined ram trucks. i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy well bberryll i think actually i know that gm ford and a host of other manufacturers use that exact same parallel battery set up on many of their diesel engined products and have for quite a few years. every hybrid vehicle ive been trained on so far uses multiple battery cell packs connected in parallel. im not quite sure what youre getting at but if you know of a better way to supply the necessary amperage needed to start a diesel engine if you know of a better way to supply the needed starting *and* pre-heater/glow plug amperage demands in a better fashion do tell us wont you as it stands now two batteries in parallel is the most cost effective method to achieve the needed energy density. i anxiously await your self aggrandized reply... .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote time to retake the quiz nell youve had a couple of days to study what you missed. i dont think so bimbo. you asked for my thoughts i gave them. no matter how staunch of a democrat you are its still not my fault if you cant comprehend your own question. at least make an effort on the first question nell. skipping it just gives you an automatic zero. the second question is about a car battery connected to a motorcycle. okay not the other way around nell *not* a motorcycle battery connected to a car. i dont know what threw you off there it should have been pretty clear. nothing threw me off sweetie ive never had the occasion to connect a car battery to a motorcycle. unlike your hero snofart i cant speak of that which ive never done. thanks to my fine mechanical skills all of the motorcycles ive owned never gave me cause to consider connecting one of them to a car battery. since i already finished the third question for you ill have to change it a little bit. explain why batteries in series wont have the discharge problem that parallel batteries can have. what discharge problem is that nine years+ on the oem batteries in my 97 ctd doesnt support your assertion. there is no perfect there is no fool proof stop looking for it. its boring and it makes you look like a neurotic. if you really need to know about batteries in parallel and discharge try the library. if youre having *other* types of discharge problem try a gynecologist. if your compulsion regarding batteries in parallel is *that* overwhelming try asking snoclod how many batteries he uses in his plow trucks what voltage they are and whether theyre connected in series or parallel. for bonus points ask him if and how theyre isolated. when youre done wiggle your fat ass back into your cubicle and do the work that my welfare to work tax dollars are paying you to do. .

From : neil nelson

on wed 23 may 2007 202949 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote had a fellow tell me today that if i accelerate quickly but avoid 4th gear and shift directly from 3rd to 5th ill get better gas mileage. id seen a thing on tv recently that suggested something similar - shift to the next highest gear before you usually would would save gas because - not sure if i got this right - less gas is used in the higher gears than in the lower comments accelerate gently and shift up as soon as the truck will pull in the next higher gear. dont some vipers have skip shift the transmission shifts from first to fourth at low throttle to save gas. al .

From : neil nelson

roy roy@home.net wrote neil ive read your informative posts for years at various groups and i gotta tell i was real surprised that you became involved with this pos. please dont be influenced by this idiot continue to post your helpful and informative information. roy no sweat roy. its rather interesting watching sheryl twist and change her story. my sole goal was to see if she had the walk to match the talk. doesnt she comes in here with both guns blazing then steps on her clitoris and looses any chance at credibility. but youre right im wasting my time on a bush league amateur. .

From : chris thompson

on mon 21 may 2007 142015 -0700 beryl wrote how about two 6 volt batteries in series rather than two 12 volt batteries in parallel nell that way dodge gm ford and a host of manufacturers can deliver the needed ampacity without the parallel design problem. how about you explain this so called parallel battery problem -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .

From : beryl

nell beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote a better question nell why were and are you intent on ignoring what al was describing and instead explaining your truely bitchin and amazing this circuit instead because your original ignorant belief was that the way big al had connected the isolation relay would only provide battery isolation during cranking. i already had the cd music over dinner scenario in mind when i read what he described nell. you claimed; the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. aside from older volkswagens do you know of any vehicles where the radio is allowed to be powered when the ignition is switched off which is the typical state when a vehicle is parked that certainly isnt the way an 02 dakota is wired. so to answer your question bberryll; because you just couldnt think your way thru the obvious there bberryll. big als way would isolate the batteries contrary to your erroneous conclusion. you *might* have been correct if you had qualified your claim with parked and listing to the tow vehicles radio. but you didnt which makes you not all that clever. simply put; why do i keep having to do this for you you were more wrong than big al was. ill help you with this nell. your inability to think beyond an ignition switch is the cause of your error. if theres no suitably switched power source for a relay trigger in there or anywhere else on a vehicle for that matter i guess youre just stuck. heres a trick nell grab your prototyping breadboard and a handful of transistors and build your very own logic sub-circuit entirely from scratch. you can have a circuit that functions exactly the way youd like it to regardless of what relay inputs already are or are not available in the stock vehicle. you wont even be limited to calling battery a the vehicle battery and battery b the house battery. either or both can serve either purpose at any time and even change roles on-the-fly as necessary. its magic! or say thank you for giving you a bit of free education. that was dazzling nell. given your lack of critical thinking skills plus your non existent electrical skills im sure it was. well at least i now know the seven output circuits from the ignition switch on a 2002 dodge dakota that i dont own thanks so much. feel free to save it somewhere maybe you can pass it on to its a keeper for sure nell. never know when i might buy a 2002 dodge dakota. someone in the future and at least -appear- to have some value to society. i realize that the high schools now days dont really teach much past what is in actuality the sixth grade level so on behalf of big al myself and the rest of the group please accept my our apologies that this went so fucking far over your pointy little head. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote nell beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote we can argue if you like neil but i might end up naming you nell. then youd get upset. is that what you want beryl nell i want you to pick up where skippy bailed out. i simply copy/pasted it youll have to mentally substitute nell wherever you see the name skippy. --------------------------- my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit no answer. zero. you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! i routinely use a 12 volt motorcycle battery as a back up power supply when replacing batteries on vehicles where there is a risk of locking out a radio erasing seat/mirror/steering column/radio memory settings on mercedes-benz vehicles which have a chronic pattern failure where the front and rear body computers sams will not re-boot after a power down. ive been using the same motorcycle battery for quite a few years with no ill effect to the motorcycle battery *any* vehicle battery *any* charging system. most trailer break away devices are nothing more than a wet cell motorcycle battery which is connected in parallel to the tow vehicles 12 volt supply system. draw your own conclusions. you scored a zero on that one too nell. read the question again. how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they its the standard set up on their diesel engined ram trucks. i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy well bberryll i think actually i know that gm ford and a host of other manufacturers use that exact same parallel battery set up on many of their diesel engined products and have for quite a few years. every hybrid vehicle ive been trained on so far uses multiple battery cell packs connected in parallel. im not quite sure what youre getting at but if you know of a better way to supply the necessary amperage needed to start a diesel engine if you know of a better way to supply the needed starting *and* pre-heater/glow plug amperage demands in a better fashion do tell us wont you how about two 6 volt batteries in series rather than two 12 volt batteries in parallel nell that way dodge gm ford and a host of manufacturers can deliver the needed ampacity without the parallel design problem. as it stands now two batteries in parallel is the most cost effective method to achieve the needed energy density. i anxiously await your self aggrandized reply... not so good nell. ill say you answered the last one okay so your score is 33%. thats an f- -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : Annonymous

on mon 21 may 2007 140234 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote nell beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote a better question nell why were and are you intent on ignoring what al was describing and instead explaining your truely bitchin and amazing this circuit instead because your original ignorant belief was that the way big al had connected the isolation relay would only provide battery isolation during cranking. i already had the cd music over dinner scenario in mind when i read what he described nell. you claimed; the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. aside from older volkswagens do you know of any vehicles where the radio is allowed to be powered when the ignition is switched off which is the typical state when a vehicle is parked that certainly isnt the way an 02 dakota is wired. so to answer your question bberryll; because you just couldnt think your way thru the obvious there bberryll. big als way would isolate the batteries contrary to your erroneous conclusion. you *might* have been correct if you had qualified your claim with parked and listing to the tow vehicles radio. but you didnt which makes you not all that clever. simply put; why do i keep having to do this for you you were more wrong than big al was. ill help you with this nell. your inability to think beyond an ignition switch is the cause of your error. if theres no suitably switched power source for a relay trigger in there or anywhere else on a vehicle for that matter i guess youre just stuck. heres a trick nell grab your prototyping breadboard and a handful of transistors and build your very own logic sub-circuit entirely from scratch. you can have a circuit that functions exactly the way youd like it to regardless of what relay inputs already are or are not available in the stock vehicle. you wont even be limited to calling battery a the vehicle battery and battery b the house battery. either or both can serve either purpose at any time and even change roles on-the-fly as necessary. its magic! or nell here is another trick. dont listen to sheryl. shes just one pissed off.........well one pissed of creature. i wonder if her last two sentences are actually a description of steve the boob and herself or say thank you for giving you a bit of free education. that was dazzling nell. given your lack of critical thinking skills plus your non existent electrical skills im sure it was. well at least i now know the seven output circuits from the ignition switch on a 2002 dodge dakota that i dont own thanks so much. feel free to save it somewhere maybe you can pass it on to its a keeper for sure nell. never know when i might buy a 2002 dodge dakota. someone in the future and at least -appear- to have some value to society. i realize that the high schools now days dont really teach much past what is in actuality the sixth grade level so on behalf of big al myself and the rest of the group please accept my our apologies that this went so fucking far over your pointy little head. .

From : beryl

nell terrapin@coolbits.net wrote give it up fool. were going to talk about you not understanding that turning als key to acc. would connect the batteries. i knew that may 17 when i answered him. but since i didnt say anything about it it took you *three more days* to figure it out. explain why. youre grasping sheryl. this three more days bullshit is off by about 30+ years. you maybe had been taught 30 years ago but you still dont know it without having reminders. it took days for you to realize your goof after youd already written the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. i hate to be the bearer of bad sheryl but im extremely good at automotive electrical. your accusations are laughable at really nell. laughable is your suggestion that whatever i didnt include in my reply to al must have been unknown to me. sorry i already knew the radio wont play when the key is turned off. everybody knows the radio doesnt work when the key is turned off. best. matter of fact considering that i spend most of my working hours repairing driveability problems sci/pci/ccd buss problems im-240 emissions failures and the like im surprised that i even involved myself in such a basic discussion to begin with. sheryl sheryl sheryl... sheri baby... companies like snap-on sun electric tti envirotest systems inc. identifix mac tools bear do not hire and recruit people like me unless they are certain about a persons qualifications. as for you calling people a liar that tactic is getting pretty old. seems you trot it out whenever youre backed into a corner. let it be known from now on that any time sheryl calls someone a lair shes only trying to cover for her own inadequacies. its not a tactic its an accusation. and its not getting old yet nell youre only the second to be caught. youre in the punkin club now. its obvious that your original reply to al excluded the consideration that the relay isolated the batteries when the key was switched off. why else would you state the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. i wouldnt normally restate the obvious to grownups nell this shouldnt be a kindergarten group. everybody knows the radio doesnt work when the key is turned off. those are your words between the quotation marks proof positive that you didnt have a clue. clues nell al says connect the relay to the radio. i say that wont isolate the batteries while parked. nell says the only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicles engine is running via the now energized isolation relay -and- the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. and it was all the same circuit to you this circuit even though id been telling you that als was different than yours. what an idiot. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote nell beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote a better question nell why were and are you intent on ignoring what al was describing and instead explaining your truely bitchin and amazing this circuit instead because your original ignorant belief was that the way big al had connected the isolation relay would only provide battery isolation during cranking. i already had the cd music over dinner scenario in mind when i read what he described nell. heres what you should do then... when you and snokook head on up to brokeback mountain on your yearly rendezvous take a portable generator. that way you can listen to cd music over dinner -and- run your industrial sized 110 volt anal fisting dildo. you claimed; the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. aside from older volkswagens do you know of any vehicles where the radio is allowed to be powered when the ignition is switched off which is the typical state when a vehicle is parked that certainly isnt the way an 02 dakota is wired. so to answer your question bberryll; because you just couldnt think your way thru the obvious there bberryll. big als way would isolate the batteries contrary to your erroneous conclusion. you *might* have been correct if you had qualified your claim with parked and listing to the tow vehicles radio. but you didnt which makes you not all that clever. simply put; why do i keep having to do this for you you were more wrong than big al was. ill help you with this nell. your inability to think beyond an ignition switch is the cause of your error. this isnt about me bberryll this is about your erroneous assumption that the isolation relay would not isolate the batteries when parked. never stopped to consider the fuck up a free lunch crowd. my bad if theres no suitably switched power source for a relay trigger in there or anywhere else on a vehicle for that matter i guess youre just stuck. there isnt why is it then that millions of vehicles have managed to function for many years with such a design heres a trick nell grab your prototyping breadboard and a handful of transistors and build your very own logic sub-circuit entirely from scratch. you can have a circuit that functions exactly the way youd like it to regardless of what relay inputs already are or are not available in the stock vehicle. you wont even be limited to calling battery a the vehicle battery and battery b the house battery. either or both can serve either purpose at any time and even change roles on-the-fly as necessary. its magic! sounds like dog lick engineering to me. hey add a couple of capacitors and you can have it deploy its own airbag. feel free to save it somewhere maybe you can pass it on to its a keeper for sure nell. never know when i might buy a 2002 dodge dakota. considering that that switch is representative of pretty much everything being used thats almost a cognitive answer. almost. .

From : beryl

max dodge wrote sadly you have no blow by vent valve. what you have is what all cummins of that model have a catch bottle at the bottom of the vent tube on the gear cover at the front of the engine. it leaks because at some point it gets full. so you can either empty it or live with it. my 99 didnt come from the factory with a bottle just the tube hanging down. i put an oil breather tank from summit racing on it. cummins now offers a fleetguard enviroguard breather system for isbs. http//www.cumminsfiltration.com/en/products/enprodinnenviroguard.shtml -- ken i have a 99 dodge ram 3500 and it has just started leaking oil from the blow by vent valve. any ideas on what to do thank you! melody .

From : beryl

big al wrote walbro vs. fass... both pumps are reportedly better than the stock lp. the fass is set up to allow extra filtration which i didnt feel i needed. i decided on the walbro back when the fass was loud. now it is reported to be about as silent as the walbro. who makes the original pump my gas powered truck has a carter pump. id almost bet carter made the complete in tank assembly. al my stock pump is mounted on the engine behind the fuel filter not inside the tank. i think its made by carter. if i let the dodge garage replace it they will mount the replacement pump inside the tank. ive heard there is a carter replacement pump available that allows the injection pump to draw fuel through it easier if that lift pump dies but i havent explored that option too far. i want to upgrade. im burning b100 biodiesel. its a bit thicker than #2 diesel fuel so i want something more capable. i filter my finished fuel before pumping it into my truck but i still like the idea of having easy to service filters on the frame rail. the fuel heater option looks good too. -- ken .

From : beryl

nell this isnt about me bberryll this is about your erroneous assumption that the isolation relay would not isolate the batteries when parked. unless the key is turned to the acc. position isolation while parked is so obvious its a given nell. yes you were hoping to thoroughly confound me with can you think of a way one might have an advantage over the other sorry nell. you want to be taken seriously nell you just jumped into this thread in the wrong place. you could have told mowingy where to connect his relay to his ignition switch you know the wires in there. he would have thanked you and you would have looked like such a smart and helpful guy. instead youre stumbling around trying to make yourself believe that you taught me all about this circuit. lets get you rebooted. als idea *radio power activates relay* ok with it so far so the $1000 question has to be gee whiz did i ever notice that *my* radio doesnt play when the key is turned to off well duh! -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : roy

roy wrote roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy *wow* your replies are getting short! there were several points worthy of further discussion where did everything go my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy well took ya some time to get cleaned up. still didnt answer the question. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy *wow* your replies are getting short! there were several points worthy of further discussion where did everything go my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy well took ya some time to get cleaned up. still didnt answer the question. lol! -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. apparently you dont understand the function of the relay in this circuit or how it works. there is no this circuit. sure there is. oems have been making them available for tears. big al described this you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. i dont really care how big al described it. and youre going on to describe something *entirely different* below. nope not entirely different. just appears so to you because as i said you dont know what the circuit does or how it functions. when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. two batteries in parallel isnt the best setup either. the weaker battery will draw the stronger one down to its level. wont happen. the only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicles engine is running via the now energized isolation relay if the engine is running the circuit voltage to both batteries is higher that the static open circuit voltage of the batteries the batteries are now being charged there is no weaker battery. differences in internal resistance between the two batteries will cause the battery with lower resistance to draw more current but that is the only difference. this may not matter much with a popup camping trailer that sees only occasional use but is a poor design when two or more batteries are always tied together. the batteries -arent- always tied together. the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. you should endeavor to learn how a properly connected isolation relay works. assuming that you can find time in between calling people names boo-hoo. so true! .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote skippy ... on may 23 944 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote either you have a bad or plugged pcv valve pcv.... on a diesel.... now thats funny. what i want to know is what told you its a diesel the op !! tell me - what do you think would happen if you introduced crankcase vapors - oil mist - to the intake of a running diesel well idiot we are waiting heres all i see from the op i have a 99 dodge ram 3500 and it has just started leaking oil from the blow by vent valve. any ideas on what to do thank you! melody heres the deal sheryl you are not very bright. .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote you dont know anything about parallel and series battery connections and youre allegedly some electrical expert. this is amazing. sheryl the fact that i dismiss your idiotic ideas as worthless is not proof or even a valid indication that i dont know anything about parallel and series battery connections. your finger paintings were amusing little girl but thats about all. .

From : Annonymous

on may 24 505 pm max dodge max...@verizon.net wrote given that only the cummins trucks have a vent and that the gasoline engines havent got a vent but a positive crankcase ventilation system its reasonable to assume that the op has a diesel. since the pcv system wont leak oil externally....... but you and snohead knew that right -- max joinwww.devilbrad.comand find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author skippy ... on may 23 944 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote either you have a bad or plugged pcv valve pcv.... on a diesel.... now thats funny. what i want to know is what told you its a diesel the op !! tell me - what do you think would happen if you introduced crankcase vapors - oil mist - to the intake of a running diesel well idiot we are waiting heres all i see from the op i have a 99 dodge ram 3500 and it has just started leaking oil from the blow by vent valve. any ideas on what to do thank you! melody -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - careful next youll be a liar too! .

From : beryl

neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. apparently you dont understand the function of the relay in this circuit or how it works. there is no this circuit. sure there is. oems have been making them available for tears. look neil there was no this and now theres no them. there are many circuits. big al described this you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. i dont really care how big al described it. then you dont care about what i replied to because thats what i replied to. you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. - big al when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. - neil is the ignition switched off when cranking um no better not be. so then you have the batteries connected while cranking and al has them isolated at the same time. are you both talking about the same circuit you claimed that in this circuit the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running. but al has them tied together whenever the radio will play. is that the same thing and youre going on to describe something *entirely different* below. nope not entirely different. just appears so to you because as i said you dont know what the circuit does or how it functions. you dont really care about what big al said so youll just ramble on about your circuit instead. go ahead... when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. two batteries in parallel isnt the best setup either. the weaker battery will draw the stronger one down to its level. wont happen. the only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicles engine is running via the now energized isolation relay if the engine is running the circuit voltage to both batteries is higher that the static open circuit voltage of the batteries the batteries are now being charged there is no weaker battery. differences in internal resistance between the two batteries will cause the battery with lower resistance to draw more current but that is the only difference. this may not matter much with a popup camping trailer that sees only occasional use but is a poor design when two or more batteries are always tied together. the batteries -arent- always tied together. the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. you should endeavor to learn how a properly connected isolation relay works. assuming that you can find time in between calling people names boo-hoo. so true! whats true to you neil -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : roy

roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy *wow* your replies are getting short! there were several points worthy of further discussion where did everything go my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! how about the parallel battery setu

From : denny

wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g youll do anything to get the machine back wont ya........ vbg denny no if i took it the wailing id here from you would be too much to bear. i also remember all the work you did to get it. look how it kept you occupied this past week. had nothing to do with your machine. i gotta tell you tho the ole jd hasnt missed a beat so far. everythings been running good so far got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. looking forward to a bit of a break. that damn car was fantastic on the drive both ways. it lets you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. gotta love all the hp and instant response. just out of curiosity what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway a very comfortable car. only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. mike was going to look into it from his end. oh i warped a set of rotors as well. had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then i started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. with getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph im surprized it aint got a drag chute on it. denny but there is a tsb out on them. i guess they replace them with the slotted rotors used on the 07s roy .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote you have yet to admit to yours. okay nell. here goes my mistake was in not seeing an ambush coming bull shit! i gave al too hasty a reply. yes you did. you read als post you read my post you had all the time you wanted to prepare. oh for christs sake! was i supposed to be up at 2 oclock in the morning waiting for your reply to big al you cant be serious. what the fuck kind of numb skull are you i posted a reply to you the next morning at 816 am a saturday. ever sleep a little late on a saturday sheryl or do you have to get up bright and early to breast feed youve had a few days now sheryl and you *still* havent offered up the one situation where big als method of wiring the relay primary to an accessory feed offers an advantage to my way of wiring the relay primary to an ignition feed. after youd already written the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. you would have a point if it werent for the fact that youre using that statement out of context. ill put your statement where it fits chronologically. why chronologically why not in context big al 5/16 you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking... you can use a relay connected to the radio feed beryl 5/17 the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. nell 5/19 apparently you dont understand the function of the relay in this circuit or how it works. the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. i can hardly begin to sort out your contexts and put them in readable form here nell theyre a mess. no one else is complaining then again youve demonstrated numerous times that you have trouble following along. but you were still thinking this circuit. as you wrote the function of the relay in this circuit. yes dip shit the function of the relay in this circuit. the function is not solely to separate the batteries when cranking. get it it wasnt until after i said als cd entertainment will allow the trailer lights to drain the truck battery that you decided i would not wire it as big al suggested not because his way wouldnt work but because his way leaves an error mode that the customer may not realize resulting in a drained vehicle battery. sort of late for you to come up with that nell. you think i decided that right then and there huh is it possible sheryl that humans populated the earth before you came out of the closet or did all human thought start with you as some sort of benchmark nice try you lie. radio wont play with the key off is one thing the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries is another thing. my thing was leaving out details until asked for them which indicates that i didnt provide details until asked. yeah too bad those details werent included in your original s reply to me which can only mean that they didnt exist until you thought them up in another demonstration of the back pedaling breast feeding mud slinging lying sheryl. your thing yours was providing *wrong* details i didnt provide any wrong details sheryl hell i even gave the pin outs of the ignition switch for the truck in question. the fact that you chose to dismiss it in your antagonistic style is again not my fault. nell and mixing them up at the wrong times without being asked. you messed up. i didnt mess up. you messed up by not thinking the solution all the way through. you also messed up by claiming that if someone had wanted to listen to music while the truck and trailer were connected both batteries would be drained. there are a number of different scenarios where this wouldnt happen like; a disconnect the trailer connection if youre worried about the trailer battery. b listen to the music on a portable cd player. c let the body computer keep the radio-cd player alive which can be done on most chryco and other vehicles even if the ignition key is in your pocket. d make sure its wired the way i would and have done it so that the relay isnt powered when the ignition switch is in the accessory position. e dont play the fucking car radio you need to be able to depend on the truck battery when the lions and tigers come looking to eat your sissy ass. so if you could back it up you would have eagerly done it already! and ive urged you to. you wont cant lied thats the end of that. yeah right fudge packer. anyone who backs up around you is a fool. and its not getting old yet nell youre only the second to be caught. youre in the punkin club now. the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. whos caught bozo i have been. now were getting somewhere.

From : denny

roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy *wow* your replies are getting short! there were several points worthy of further discussion where did everything go my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy well took ya some time to get cleaned up. still didnt answer the question. lol! wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g youll do anything to get the machine back wont ya........ vbg denny .

From : denny

actually yes. ive managed to stay 195-198 for a year now. and im still as purdy as i ever was... now put both feet on the scale. damn....... denny .

From : roy

roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy *wow* your replies are getting short! there were several points worthy of further discussion where did everything go my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy well took ya some time to get cleaned up. still didnt answer the question. lol! wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g youll do anything to get the machine back wont ya........ vbg denny no if i took it the wailing id here from you would be too much to bear. i also remember all the work you did to get it. look how it kept you occupied this past week. that damn car was fantastic on the drive both ways. it lets you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. gotta love all the hp and instant response. a very comfortable car. only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. mike was going to look into it from his end. oh i warped a set of rotors as well. had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then i started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. but there is a tsb out on them. i guess they replace them with the slotted rotors used on the 07s roy .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. apparently you dont understand the function of the relay in this circuit or how it works. there is no this circuit. sure there is. oems have been making them available for years. look neil there was no this and now theres no them. there are many circuits. there are many thick headed people also but this isnt about you or your minions. big al described this you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. i dont really care how big al described it. then you dont care about what i replied to because thats what i replied to. thats quite the crystal ball youve got there. you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. - big al when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. - neil is the ignition switched off when cranking um no better not be. is the engine cranking when the ignition is switched on does the word ignition describe just a circuit does the word ignition describe a switch which has multiple positions and/or modes of operation if the component in question is installed in a diesel vehicle must we now call it a compression switch because diesel engine dont have an ignition system if a thick headed person is shown to be wrong does arguing semantics bolster his position so then you have the batteries connected while cranking i never said i would connect the relay to an ignition feed. i only described the state that a particular switch was positioned to. and al has them isolated at the same time. are you both talking about the same circuit what circuit according to you there is no circuit. you claimed that in this circuit the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running. but al has them tied together whenever the radio will play. is that the same thing can you think of a way one might have an advantage over the other and youre going on to describe something *entirely different* below. nope not entirely different. just appears so to you because as i said you dont know what the circuit does or how it functions. you dont really care about what big al said so youll just ramble on about your circuit instead. go ahead... ramble i would never entertain the thought of competing with you... when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. two batteries in parallel isnt the best setup either. the weaker battery will draw the stronger one down to its level. wont happen. the only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicles engine is running via the now energized isolation relay if the engine is running the circuit voltage to both batteries is higher that the static open circuit voltage of the batteries the batteries are now being charged there is no weaker battery. differences in internal resistance between the two batteries will cause the battery with lower resistance to draw more current but that is the only difference. this may not matter much with a popup camping trailer that sees only occasional use but is a poor design when two or more batteries are always tied together. the batteries -arent- always tied together. the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged.semantic you should endeavor to learn how a properly connected isolation relay works. assuming that you can find time in between calling people names boo-hoo. so true! whats true to you neil are you having a problem following the attributes thats a question not an answer .

From : roy

wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g youll do anything to get the machine back wont ya........ vbg denny no if i took it the wailing id here from you would be too much to bear. i also remember all the work you did to get it. look how it kept you occupied this past week. had nothing to do with your machine. i gotta tell you tho the ole jd hasnt missed a beat so far. everythings been running good so far got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. looking forward to a bit of a break. good deal. does the machine fit on the jd that damn car was fantastic on the drive both ways. it lets you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. gotta love all the hp and instant response. just out of curiosity what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway at 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. at 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 ive never had less on the highway remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. whats nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. those brembos are a good piece. a very comfortable car. only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. mike was going to look into it from his end. oh i warped a set of rotors as well. had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then i started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. with getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph im surprized it aint got a drag chute on it. the question the begs to be asked is will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat im sure there is no weight used on the jd. denny .

From : denny

wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g youll do anything to get the machine back wont ya........ vbg denny no if i took it the wailing id here from you would be too much to bear. i also remember all the work you did to get it. look how it kept you occupied this past week. had nothing to do with your machine. i gotta tell you tho the ole jd hasnt missed a beat so far. everythings been running good so far got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. looking forward to a bit of a break. good deal. does the machine fit on the jd not at all. havent even had the opportunity to try it since its been on the east coast for a few years now. that damn car was fantastic on the drive both ways. it lets you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. gotta love all the hp and instant response. just out of curiosity what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway at 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. at 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 ive never had less on the highway remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. whats nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. those brembos are a good piece. that isnt bad for that kind of performance. my old big-block camaro would get 14 on the highway if i kept it below 50. but itd outrun your pos any day.. vbg notice i didnt say out-stop or out-handle... a very comfortable car. only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. mike was going to look into it from his end. oh i warped a set of rotors as well. had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then i started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. with getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph im surprized it aint got a drag chute on it. the question the begs to be asked is will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat yes it will. ive got to put my fingerprints on a couple of them so far.. im sure there is no weight used on the jd. guess again. had to put fluid in the inside dual this spring and it stills running 7-8% slippage. denny denny .

From : beryl

nell beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote how about two 6 volt batteries in series rather than two 12 volt batteries in parallel nell that way dodge gm ford and a host of manufacturers can deliver the needed ampacity without the parallel design problem. why not just use cold fusion golf cart batteries nell. not so good nell. ill say you answered the last one okay so your score is 33%. thats an f- good thing its just you doing the grading. thats right nell. i was being generous giving you full credit on the last one. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

chris thompson wrote on mon 21 may 2007 142015 -0700 beryl wrote how about two 6 volt batteries in series rather than two 12 volt batteries in parallel nell that way dodge gm ford and a host of manufacturers can deliver the needed ampacity without the parallel design problem. how about you explain this so called parallel battery problem theyre electrically connected but chemically separated. voltage across like terminals will equalize it has to with the same +12 volts at every + terminal or same -12v at every - terminal whichever way you want to look at it. a failing battery one that wont hold its charge will continually drain power from a healthier battery as the 12v present at its terminal tries to recharge the failing chemistry inside. no problem if all batteries are equally healthy... or equally unhealthy. the greater the mismatch the quicker the weaker ones take the others down with them. however many there are doesnt have to be two theyll all eventually end up at the level of the weakest one out of the bunch. better wait for nells opinion -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote why not just use cold fusion golf cart batteries nell. wow and to think that detroit has been doing it wrong all these years. you should patent your idea as quickly as possible. this discovery of yours is going to rock the world. .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote nell this isnt about me bberryll this is about your erroneous assumption that the isolation relay would not isolate the batteries when parked. unless the key is turned to the acc. position isolation while parked is so obvious its a given nell. it was to everyone but you. otherwise why would you have replied with; the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. yes you were hoping to thoroughly confound me with can you think of a way one might have an advantage over the other sorry nell. dont be sorry ill still give you the chance to explain how als way would have an advantage over my way. you want to be taken seriously nell you just jumped into this thread in the wrong place. its not up too you to determine where i enter a thread you pompous bozo. you could have told mowingy where to connect his relay to his ignition switch you know the wires in there. well yeah except that isnt what he asked for advice on. he asked whether the alternator could handle the extra load then al suggested an isolation relay with a rather left hand description of what it would do for mowingly you then stuck your foot in your mouth claiming that the relay wouldnt isolate the two batteries when parked. =========== exact quote from beryl the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. =========== now you claim that was obvious all along. i agree it was and still is obvious that you didnt have a clue. this is the most pathetic back pedal ive seen in quite some time. drop it sheryl you arent fooling anyone. anyone can parse those two sentences and see that you stepped on your dick. he would have thanked you and you would have looked like such a smart and helpful guy. instead youre stumbling around trying to make yourself believe that you taught me all about this circuit. i dont need to stumble youre doing enough of it to cover all the regulars here. lets get you rebooted. translated; if i lie enough times i can plausibly change my story. als idea *radio power activates relay* ok with it so far i understood it from the very beginning. you must not have because you replied with; the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. so the $1000 question has to be gee whiz did i ever notice that *my* radio doesnt play when the key is turned to off well duh! why does *that* have to be the $1000 question why cant it be; why didnt stumbling sheryl recognize that the relay wired as al described would provide isolation in a mode other than engine cranking the $2000 question has to be; why did it take stumbling sheryl 4 days to get around to stating that it was obvious all along instead of babbling on about there is no circuit and now youre describing something entirely different and since shes -not- smarter than a fifth grader lets let stumbling sheryl jump to the $10000 question; why is she so desperate now after 4 days to seek redemption from her original gaff when she could have done it much much earlier .

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote chris thompson wrote on mon 21 may 2007 142015 -0700 beryl wrote how about two 6 volt batteries in series rather than two 12 volt batteries in parallel nell that way dodge gm ford and a host of manufacturers can deliver the needed ampacity without the parallel design problem. how about you explain this so called parallel battery problem theyre electrically connected but chemically separated. voltage across like terminals will equalize it has to with the same +12 volts at every + terminal or same -12v at every - terminal whichever way you want to look at it. a failing battery one that wont hold its charge will continually drain power from a healthier battery as the 12v present at its terminal tries to recharge the failing chemistry inside. no problem if all batteries are equally healthy... or equally unhealthy. the greater the mismatch the quicker the weaker ones take the others down with them. however many there are doesnt have to be two theyll all eventually end up at the level of the weakest one out of the bunch. better wait for nells opinion it is my opinion that we are witnessing the return of altovoz. .

From : roy

i figured it out. thanks for all the helpful replies. ;- bb .

From : azwiley1

on may 22 646 am neil nelson nonel...@sbcglobal.net wrote beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote nell this isnt about me bberryll this is about your erroneous assumption that the isolation relay would not isolate the batteries when parked. unless the key is turned to the acc. position isolation while parked is so obvious its a given nell. it was to everyone but you. otherwise why would you have replied with; the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. yes you were hoping to thoroughly confound me with can you think of a way one might have an advantage over the other sorry nell. dont be sorry ill still give you the chance to explain how als way would have an advantage over my way. you want to be taken seriously nell you just jumped into this thread in the wrong place. its not up too you to determine where i enter a thread you pompous bozo. you could have told mowingy where to connect his relay to his ignition switch you know the wires in there. well yeah except that isnt what he asked for advice on. he asked whether the alternator could handle the extra load then al suggested an isolation relay with a rather left hand description of what it would do for mowingly you then stuck your foot in your mouth claiming that the relay wouldnt isolate the two batteries when parked. =========== exact quote from beryl the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. =========== now you claim that was obvious all along. i agree it was and still is obvious that you didnt have a clue. this is the most pathetic back pedal ive seen in quite some time. drop it sheryl you arent fooling anyone. anyone can parse those two sentences and see that you stepped on your dick. he would have thanked you and you would have looked like such a smart and helpful guy. instead youre stumbling around trying to make yourself believe that you taught me all about this circuit. i dont need to stumble youre doing enough of it to cover all the regulars here. hang on there neil this clown is not a regular here. .

From : roy

wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g youll do anything to get the machine back wont ya........ vbg denny no if i took it the wailing id here from you would be too much to bear. i also remember all the work you did to get it. look how it kept you occupied this past week. had nothing to do with your machine. i gotta tell you tho the ole jd hasnt missed a beat so far. everythings been running good so far got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. looking forward to a bit of a break. good deal. does the machine fit on the jd not at all. havent even had the opportunity to try it since its been on the east coast for a few years now. that damn car was fantastic on the drive both ways. it lets you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. gotta love all the hp and instant response. just out of curiosity what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway at 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. at 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 ive never had less on the highway remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. whats nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. those brembos are a good piece. that isnt bad for that kind of performance. my old big-block camaro would get 14 on the highway if i kept it below 50. but itd outrun your pos any day.. vbg notice i didnt say out-stop or out-handle... stock out of the box ive seen time slips that vary from 12.80 on up most are 12.9 low 13s. having to do with driver weather elevation and so on. top speed some have posted pics and vids of 165mph not too shabby for a 4 door.doubtful your camaro could turn that. i know that the 69 i had could but it was far from stock. glass nose and stuff like that. not a registered street car. actually it was a cheater was a 427. no way would it get to 165mph with the rear gears. a very comfortable car. only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. mike was going to look into it from his end. oh i warped a set of rotors as well. had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then i started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. with getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph im surprized it aint got a drag chute on it. the question the begs to be asked is will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat yes it will. ive got to put my fingerprints on a couple of them so far.. i didnt say touch them! i said get your fat ass into the seat. im sure there is no weight used on the jd. guess again. had to put fluid in the inside dual this spring and it stills running 7-8% slippage. what happened ya go on a dietvbg roy denny denny .

From : beryl

on may 24 329 pm dennis den...@comcast.net wrote hit a deer going to work this morning with my perfect condition not a scratch 2004 dakota. did $2000 worth of damage. kill all deer!!!! war on deer!!!! i hate deer!!!! this doesnt require a response just blowing off some steam you and any passangers ok .

From : beryl

skippy ... on may 23 944 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote either you have a bad or plugged pcv valve pcv.... on a diesel.... now thats funny. what i want to know is what told you its a diesel the op !! tell me - what do you think would happen if you introduced crankcase vapors - oil mist - to the intake of a running diesel well idiot we are waiting heres all i see from the op i have a 99 dodge ram 3500 and it has just started leaking oil from the blow by vent valve. any ideas on what to do thank you! melody -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : denny

wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g youll do anything to get the machine back wont ya........ vbg denny no if i took it the wailing id here from you would be too much to bear. i also remember all the work you did to get it. look how it kept you occupied this past week. had nothing to do with your machine. i gotta tell you tho the ole jd hasnt missed a beat so far. everythings been running good so far got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. looking forward to a bit of a break. good deal. does the machine fit on the jd not at all. havent even had the opportunity to try it since its been on the east coast for a few years now. that damn car was fantastic on the drive both ways. it lets you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. gotta love all the hp and instant response. just out of curiosity what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway at 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. at 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 ive never had less on the highway remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. whats nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. those brembos are a good piece. that isnt bad for that kind of performance. my old big-block camaro would get 14 on the highway if i kept it below 50. but itd outrun your pos any day.. vbg notice i didnt say out-stop or out-handle... stock out of the box ive seen time slips that vary from 12.80 on up most are 12.9 low 13s. having to do with driver weather elevation and so on. top speed some have posted pics and vids of 165mph not too shabby for a 4 door.doubtful your camaro could turn that. i know that the 69 i had could but it was far from stock. glass nose and stuff like that. not a registered street car. actually it was a cheater was a 427. no way would it get to 165mph with the rear gears. mine was a 67 with a 402. itd run high 11s most of the time if i did my part. i had tags on mine just so i could put 50 miles a summer on it. them was fun miles. vbg a very comfortable car. only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. mike was going to look into it from his end. oh i warped a set of rotors as well. had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then i started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. with getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph im surprized it aint got a drag chute on it. the question the begs to be asked is will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat yes it will. ive got to put my fingerprints on a couple of them so far.. i didnt say touch them! i said get your fat ass into the seat. itll fit just fine. a much looser fit for me than you if i might say.. im sure there is no weight used on the jd. guess again. had to put fluid in the inside dual this spring and it stills running 7-8% slippage. what happened ya go on a dietvbg actually yes. ive managed to stay 195-198 for a year now. and im still as purdy as i ever was... denny .

From : neil nelson

on wed 23 may 2007 093151 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote talked my wife into putting the house in ma on the market. of course she put conditions. if it doesnt sell in 65 days which will allow her to give proper notice at her teaching job it comes off the market until next year. which may or may not be a bad thing. so if anybody is looking or relocating i may have what you are looking for. oh i also have a number of ma compliant hand guns for sale. you thinking you wont need any in florida not sure about that. roy .

From : neil nelson

walbro vs. fass... both pumps are reportedly better than the stock lp. the fass is set up to allow extra filtration which i didnt feel i needed. i decided on the walbro back when the fass was loud. now it is reported to be about as silent as the walbro. who makes the original pump my gas powered truck has a carter pump. id almost bet carter made the complete in tank assembly. al .

From : beryl

had a fellow tell me today that if i accelerate quickly but avoid 4th gear and shift directly from 3rd to 5th ill get better gas mileage. id seen a thing on tv recently that suggested something similar - shift to the next highest gear before you usually would would save gas because - not sure if i got this right - less gas is used in the higher gears than in the lower comments .

From : beryl

nosey wrote mpberti wrote nosey wrote jeff gagnon wrote gas war a gas war idea that will work---- this was originally sent by a retired coca cola executive. it came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from halliburton. its worthy of your consideration 8--- it wont work. http//www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp ive been boycotting exxon-mobil for years. the only thing ill buy from them is mobil 1 sys motor oilbecause its made form soybeans not crude. exxon is evil. lets bring them down!!!!!!!!!!!!! synthetic soybeans yep .

From : roy

wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g youll do anything to get the machine back wont ya........ vbg denny no if i took it the wailing id here from you would be too much to bear. i also remember all the work you did to get it. look how it kept you occupied this past week. had nothing to do with your machine. i gotta tell you tho the ole jd hasnt missed a beat so far. everythings been running good so far got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. looking forward to a bit of a break. good deal. does the machine fit on the jd not at all. havent even had the opportunity to try it since its been on the east coast for a few years now. that damn car was fantastic on the drive both ways. it lets you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. gotta love all the hp and instant response. just out of curiosity what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway at 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. at 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 ive never had less on the highway remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. whats nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. those brembos are a good piece. that isnt bad for that kind of performance. my old big-block camaro would get 14 on the highway if i kept it below 50. but itd outrun your pos any day.. vbg notice i didnt say out-stop or out-handle... stock out of the box ive seen time slips that vary from 12.80 on up most are 12.9 low 13s. having to do with driver weather elevation and so on. top speed some have posted pics and vids of 165mph not too shabby for a 4 door.doubtful your camaro could turn that. i know that the 69 i had could but it was far from stock. glass nose and stuff like that. not a registered street car. actually it was a cheater was a 427. no way would it get to 165mph with the rear gears. mine was a 67 with a 402. itd run high 11s most of the time if i did my part. i had tags on mine just so i could put 50 miles a summer on it. them was fun miles. vbg that was a fun time for sure. a very comfortable car. only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. mike was going to look into it from his end. oh i warped a set of rotors as well. had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then i started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. with getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph im surprized it aint got a drag chute on it. the question the begs to be asked is will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat yes it will. ive got to put my fingerprints on a couple of them so far.. i didnt say touch them! i said get your fat ass into the seat. itll fit just fine. a much looser fit for me than you if i might say.. im sure there is no weight used on the jd. guess again. had to put fluid in the inside dual this spring and it stills running 7-8% slippage. what happened ya go on a dietvbg actually yes. ive managed to stay 195-198 for a year now. and im still as purdy as i ever was... now put both feet on the scale. roy denny .

From : beryl

nell terrapin@coolbits.net wrote yup. the notion that more electrical power can be gotten from two 6 volt batteries compared to two 12 volt batteries -is- to me. whoa! hold on nell did anybody say anything about more electrical power there isnt more nell why did you think so terrapin@coolbits.net wrote how about two 6 volt batteries in series rather than two 12 volt batteries in parallel nell that way dodge gm ford and a host of manufacturers can deliver the needed ampacity without the parallel design problem. golf cart batteries nell. i never said more electrical power came from the series connection. you asked about a better way to supply the necessary amperage needed nell more electrical power wasnt what we were talking about. i know youre going to claim that means something entirely different than what it says it means what it says nell. put two 6v batteries end to end + to - and thats a 12v battery nell. put two 12v batteries side by side + to + and - to - and thats also a 12v battery. the difference end to end is terminated at each end! its an open circuit. but side by side is a loop nell current can flow. when the two arent perfectly matched and they arent some current *will* flow. thats why the stronger battery becomes a charger for the weaker battery and it goes on and on and on... but with any luck its a tiny trickle charge that youll never notice. are you starting to get it now nell you dont know anything about parallel and series battery connections and youre allegedly some electrical expert. this is amazing. but last time i checked volts x amps equals watts and watts is the standard measure of electrical power. no kidding! why are you checking irrelevant stuff nell there are still twelve cells still the same size same volts same amps same power. but now each cell is blissfully and chemically together with itself as one in the same case instead of being divided into pieces. now not only the electrons but also the +ions can be happy. chemically together + ions never heard of them i guess huckleberrys car skool didnt start you out with theory of electricity or anything like that you just went straight to tools and how to read flowcharts. all your two 6 volt batteries in series equals is a 12 volt battery. no kidding! im no golf cart expert but every 6 volt golf cart battery ive been able to view consists of 3 wet cells in individual compartments. thats the point. each 2v cell occupies one big compartment. with 12v in parallel each 2v cell is two little compartments. so where this chemically together crap comes from in an individual battery much less two connected by a cable is anyones guess. i told you and i just retold you. will you ever stop guessing not surprising being it comes from someone whos best description of a wire gauge is heavy. nobodys going to touch wire gauge nell. its just asking for ridicule for looking it up. let me ask you something; if one cell in your two 6 volt in series battery invention goes open circuit will the vehicle 4 way flashers work without clever design no way! and theyre of great importance with a disabled vehicle. so let me ask you can you imagine a solution i dont need to imagine a solution. as for clever design whats this now adding another red herring to the fray so you expect the 4 way flasher circuit to work without being designed to your original claim said two 6 volt golf cart batteries in series beats two 12 volt batteries in parallel now it needs clever design. you asked about 4 way flashers nell! remember were not redesigning for the batteries! what next it will all work as long as you carry a case of road flares going to rub some nylon on a piece of amber silliness wont conceal your lack of knowledge nell. its clear nell you never learned a whole lot about electricity. this conversation about simple batteries tells me that. says the guy who learned his electronics a few decades ago from an rv magazine. i learn from wherever i can. ive had a couple electrical/electronics instructors who also learned a few things from me. i had one instructor who refused to tolerate a student speaking up when he gave the class wrong information so i left. youre a moron youve proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt. says the car electric wiz. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote how heavy would you use *heavy* skippy! i think i already said that. cmon crotch cannibal that was a question. how *heavy* or is it beyond you to answer look if ya dont knowseems ya dont roll over give the idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. im sure by now youve done some research and have some sort of a answer dont ya troll boy *wow* your replies are getting short! there were several points worthy of further discussion where did everything go my first answer to big al wasnt profound enough for you. why dont you elaborate on it a bit you probably no *definitely* should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12v car battery to a 12v motorcycle might not be a good idea. do you agree or disagree or have any thoughts at all tell us! how about the parallel battery setup that i called a poor design dodge does that dont they i havent seen dodges dual battery setup personally but im pretty sure its been mentioned here. and i dont recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. if its as i think it is then i just called it lousy and nobody wants to comment what do you think about it skippy well took ya some time to get cleaned up. still didnt answer the question. lol! wtf do ya want i just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and im beat. g sure. and im on the left coast posted something at 245 am but you expected me to stay up til 400 to await your next reply. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote neil nelson wrote beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote the cranking relay wont isolate the two batteries while parked though. the danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. apparently you dont understand the function of the relay in this circuit or how it works. there is no this circuit. sure there is. oems have been making them available for years. look neil there was no this and now theres no them. there are many circuits. there are many thick headed people also but this isnt about you or your minions. oh look! neil is starting to call me names now. big al described this you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. i dont really care how big al described it. then you dont care about what i replied to because thats what i replied to. thats quite the crystal ball youve got there. those are floaters neil theyre in your eyeballs. you need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. you can use a relay connected to the radio feed the radio goes off when cranking. - big al when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. - neil is the ignition switched off when cranking um no better not be. is the engine cranking when the ignition is switched on does the word ignition describe just a circuit does the word ignition describe a switch which has multiple positions and/or modes of operation if the component in question is installed in a diesel vehicle must we now call it a compression switch because diesel engine dont have an ignition system if a thick headed person is shown to be wrong does arguing semantics bolster his position dont try to blow a nebulous fog over it neil. so then you have the batteries connected while cranking i never said i would connect the relay to an ignition feed. so you and everyone else would connect the relay trigger to radio power same as al would and thats why this circuit covers everything i only described the state that a particular switch was positioned to. which confirmed what i said. you have the batteries connected while cranking. and al has them isolated at the same time. are you both talking about the same circuit what circuit according to you there is no circuit. you wont answer so theres no circuit now you claimed that in this circuit the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running. but al has them tied together whenever the radio will play. is that the same thing can you think of a way one might have an advantage over the other sure. al can turn his key to acc. so the family can listen to the trucks cd player over dinner while his trailers lights drain the truck battery. and youre going on to describe something *entirely different* below. nope not entirely different. just appears so to you because as i said you dont know what the circuit does or how it functions. you dont really care about what big al said so youll just ramble on about your circuit instead. go ahead... ramble i would never entertain the thought of competing with you... when the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e. the relay is not energized there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. two batteries in parallel isnt the best setup either. the weaker battery will draw the stronger one down to its level. wont happen. the only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicles engine is running via the now energized isolation relay if the engine is running the circuit voltage to both batteries is higher that the static open circuit voltage of the batteries the batteries are now being charged there is no weaker battery. differences in internal resistance between the two batteries will cause the battery with lower resistance to draw more current but that is the only difference. this may not matter much with a popup camping trailer that sees only occasional use but is a poor design when two or more batteries are always tied together. the batteries -arent- always tied together. the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged.semantic you should endeavor to learn how a properly connected isolation relay works. assuming that you can find time in between calling people names boo-hoo.

From : neil nelson

beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote how about two 6 volt batteries in series rather than two 12 volt batteries in parallel nell that way dodge gm ford and a host of manufacturers can deliver the needed ampacity without the parallel design problem. why not just use cold fusion not so good nell. ill say you answered the last one okay so your score is 33%. thats an f- good thing its just you doing the grading. .