durango muffler options?

From : bill

Q: would it be a bad idea to have the dealer or independent shop diagnose the problem and then you could put the part on yourself if it wasnt too difficult seems like guessing without diagnosing would get very expensive quickly. yes it does but some folks have this thing about allowing a qualified person to diagnose a problem they have this fixation on the amount charged for the diagnosis believing that paying 30 to 60 bucks for what they peceive as a tiny amount of work as a rip off if it is a tiny amount of work then it is a rip-off. perceive as a tiny amount of work jesus will you learn to read if all that they are doing is plugging in a code reader then it is a tiny amount of work no perception required. learn how to comprehend. they fail to take into account the investment in service manuals scan tools updates for scan tools new cables for scan tools time spent on the phone with tech services time spent sitting in a classroom learning more about modern day systems the inevitable unbillable hours spent on the first time this problem came thru the door phone bill power bill internet service bill computer to give internet access to information services computer upgrades insurance on the premises insurance on tools advertising promotions give-aways to service organizations for their fund-raisers donations to charities interest on the loans to finance new equipment purchases taxes on the shop time spent doing bookkeeping for federal state and local governments time and effort spent to insure epa compliance and on and on and on ad nauseum all of this is part of the costs of doing business and some of them just to make the owner look good gary and should be dealt with by better money management and efficient use of time and materials. charging the customer a high price for something that they have to do anyway on top of the cost of the repair is just a rip-off. now im not talking about when the problem is a mystery and requires real time effort and skill to discover what it is. where did i ever say that the charge for diagnosis was in addition to the cost of repairs this entire discussion dealt with diagnosis only what im talking about is when they hook up some code reader and take a guess at the problem or open the hood and see the obvious leaking water pump and then charge $60.00 for the diagnosis regardless of whether they are right or wrong. once again read what i said not what you think i said they see only the act of plugging a scan tool into a vehicle pushing a few buttons and reading a code. never mind that the first time one of this model/year/make came in it was a half-day struggle to even get the scan tool to communicate because the vehicle maker and the scan tool provider are not exactly on friendly terms information-exchange-wise and the customer should have to pay for problems you are having with your venders why its not a vendor problem its because the manufacturer of the vehicle will not provide the information to the scan tool maker like i asked before the customer should pay for this why hell to this day im waiting for a call back from otc on why my otc-4000e will not read transmission data on full-size 97 gm trucks well get back to you in a week or so said the otc national service manage on sept 12 2000 in las vegas then perhaps you should get the word out and look for an equipment vender that has better customer support. yeah right have you ever used a scan tool have you ever called customer support at say snap-on i own a diagnostic tool one step above a code reader and i have called customer support on many things many times. how well they do their job is key on how much buisness i do with them in the future. so let em rant and rave and go on with their its cheaper to replace it nothing you or i will say can convince them that a fee for diagnosis is a bargain........................ it is only a bargain if it actually saves the customer money. the only ones that seems to be getting the bargain here are the shops. tell you what set up a shop do the actual work if youre still in business in 5 years then you are qualified to comment on this subject lol. . 222 274712 rj7ib.18002$q55.6360@twister.nyroc.rr.com have 98 5.2 about ready for a new muffler 130k in wny not wild about spending 3-400 on a cat back system whats out there for a nice soundingmuffler that wont break me..tried to look around the web but found a lot of high end systems anyone make up their own combination .

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From : hsmith2078

whats out there for a nice sounding muffler that wont break me. check out the muffler used on the rt durango. i have heard that it has a more thoaty sound than the regular durango muffler. .