Durango Ball Joints
From : kosmo
Q: this is a multi-part message in mime format. ------=nextpart00000d901c3711e.58b4fe40 content-type text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 content-transfer-encoding quoted-printable ive been following a couple of threads about the ball joints on certain = years of the durango being prone to premature failure. i dont know if = all this reading has gone to my head or not but i naturally have to = wonder if the joints on my 99 durango with 55k miles are going south. what indications are there when your ball joints are going tits up =20 i notice in my durango that whenever i go over a speed bump or really = when ever the front suspension flexes i here a pretty loud squeaking. = is that the ball joints --=20 kosmo veni vidi vici ------=nextpart00000d901c3711e.58b4fe40 content-type text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 content-transfer-encoding quoted-printable !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=3dcontent-type content=3dtext/html; = charset=3diso-8859-1 meta content=3dmshtml 6.00.2800.1226 name=3dgenerator style/style /head body bgcolor=3d#ffffff divfont face=3darial size=3d2ive been following a couple of threads = about the=20 ball joints on certain years of the durango being prone to premature=20 failure. i dont know if all this reading has gone to my head or = not but=20 i naturally have to wonder if the joints on my 99 durango with 55k = miles are=20 going south./font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div divfont face=3darial size=3d2what indications are there when your = ball joints=20 are going tits up /font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div divfont face=3darial size=3d2i notice in my durango that whenever i = go over a=20 speed bump or really when ever the front suspension flexes i here a = pretty=20 loud squeaking. is that the ball joints/font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2br-- brkosmobrveni vidi=20 vici/font/div/body/html ------=nextpart00000d901c3711e.58b4fe40-- .
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From : jerry
budd cochran wrote no its not a philosophy its an opinion. sealed ball joints are stupid in my honest opinion. then youre gonna shit when you find out about the 4x4 wheel bearings. jerry .
From : curmudgeon
by that philosophy been there tried it in the 60s didnt work its a surprise that ford trucks have ac or power steering!! what a dumb argument. which in my opinion is about the dumbest thing to come down the pike in years. ford tried it and dropped it way back in the early 60s. -- budd cochran budd cochran wrote and did he maintain them according to schedule how did he drive the vehicle lots of variables ya know. then go buy a toyota and quit whining. but if you dont grease the balljoints theyll wear too fast also. nothing to maintain the ball joints are sealed. jerry .
From : budd cochran
no its not a philosophy its an opinion. sealed ball joints are stupid in my honest opinion. -- budd cochran by that philosophy been there tried it in the 60s didnt work its a surprise that ford trucks have ac or power steering!! what a dumb argument. which in my opinion is about the dumbest thing to come down the pike in years. ford tried it and dropped it way back in the early 60s. -- budd cochran budd cochran wrote and did he maintain them according to schedule how did he drive the vehicle lots of variables ya know. then go buy a toyota and quit whining. but if you dont grease the balljoints theyll wear too fast also. nothing to maintain the ball joints are sealed. jerry .
From : todd w roatjerry
thanks for the tip. this may seem basic but how can you tell if its out of alignment so i can point this out in advance. not sure what i would know what to look for. soemthing you can do yourself i wonder i have a 2000 ram quad cab and i complained to the dodge dealership about the same thing. only i could plainly see both driver side doors were not aligned correctly. they replaced the seal and of course the problem persisted so i took it back and pointed it out to them again and this time they realigned the doors and the wind noise went away. ken have the common wind noise coming from the driver side door seal esp on highway. have a 2003 ram 1500 hemi. its a bit annoying. on my 1999 ram 1500 i had the same trouble cant believe they still havent fixed it! but a new seal really did nothing. is it worth taking in to get a new one has a replacement actually fixed anyones wind noise thaks todd .
From : budd cochran
i dont care for sealed bearings in most applications either jerry but then im also not afraid to get my hands dirty packing bearings unlike some people. budd jerry wrote budd cochran wrote no its not a philosophy its an opinion. sealed ball joints are stupid in my honest opinion. then youre gonna shit when you find out about the 4x4 wheel bearings. jerry .
From : budd cochran
well jerry what was your point except to try and start an argument my point was that i dont think theyre needed all the time and i know theyre sealed by the bearing manufacturer. do you understand me now budd jerry wrote budd cochran wrote i dont care for sealed bearings in most applications either jerry but then im also not afraid to get my hands dirty packing bearings unlike some people. what the fuck is your point budd the damn things are sealed from the factory not by owners that buy the truck. nothing but a meaningless comment. jerry .
From : theguy
on fri 05 sep 2003 235852 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote well jerry what was your point except to try and start an argument my point was that i dont think theyre needed all the time and i know theyre sealed by the bearing manufacturer. do you understand me now budd im just sayin here no one could understand you now or any other time budd. your mind is in a place that no one elses is. jerry wrote budd cochran wrote i dont care for sealed bearings in most applications either jerry but then im also not afraid to get my hands dirty packing bearings unlike some people. what the fuck is your point budd the damn things are sealed from the factory not by owners that buy the truck. nothing but a meaningless comment. jerry .
From : jerry
budd cochran wrote im done with you. please... jerry .
From : budd cochran
well jerry there are only three people in the group that have ever mentioned any problems understanding my posts. it doesnt happen in any other group im in just this one. i wonder why that is . . . . coincidence no way. planned id believe it of any or all of you. after all i dont know of any other people ive met anywhere that get so much satisfaction from harassing me like the three of you do. you three are really sick weirdos to get such joy from causing another person to suffer. im going to take your little sick pleasures away from you. im done with you. budd jerry wrote nothing worth repeating .
From : theguy
on sat 06 sep 2003 051103 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote well jerry there are only three people in the group that have ever mentioned any problems understanding my posts. it doesnt happen in any other group im in just this one. i wonder why that is . . . . coincidence no way. planned id believe it of any or all of you. after all i dont know of any other people ive met anywhere that get so much satisfaction from harassing me like the three of you do. you three are really sick weirdos to get such joy from causing another person to suffer. im going to take your little sick pleasures away from you. im done with you. promises promises. budd jerry wrote nothing worth repeating .
From : tbone
at least i can say with complete confidence that i am not the third. i must say that i am surprised in the way that you two and whoever that third one is abuse that poor guy for nothing more than your own personal pleasure. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on sat 06 sep 2003 141614 gmt jerry jerry1655@earthlink.net wrote budd cochran wrote im done with you. please... jerry jerry i hope that you will be able to overcome the pain and anguish caused when budd aka the bearded fat lady at the circus turned his back on you. i think he meant me too so i too will have to find a way to cope with the disappointment. but being a very resilient person i am sure that i will find a way. .
From : dan j s
i dont get it . . .its been my experience that even when properly lubed ball joints just dont last forever and commonly need normal replacement at 50-60 thousand miles. what is the problem with that people budd the ball joints on durangos were not the proper ones. mine went out at 20k and then after every 10k. any mechanic that ever dealt with them will tell you they were to weak for the weight of the automobile. dan .
From : budd cochrancbhvac
think about it dan. if that were true then you would probably have half a dozen deaths from ball joint failure at highway speeds and a recall and/or class action lawsuit going on because of the deaths it would have caused since the introduction of the vehicle. besides i believe the chassis is the same as the dakota. i think you should find another mechanic. budd dan j.s. wrote i dont get it . . .its been my experience that even when properly lubed ball joints just dont last forever and commonly need normal replacement at 50-60 thousand miles. what is the problem with that people budd the ball joints on durangos were not the proper ones. mine went out at 20k and then after every 10k. any mechanic that ever dealt with them will tell you they were to weak for the weight of the automobile. dan .
From : cbhvac
i dont get it . . .its been my experience that even when properly lubed ball joints just dont last forever and commonly need normal replacement at 50-60 thousand miles. what is the problem with that people budd the ball joints on durangos were not the proper ones. mine went out at 20k and then after every 10k. any mechanic that ever dealt with them will tell you they were to weak for the weight of the automobile. dan bullshit dan...you had other issues with the vehicle and it wasnt the ball joints. budd summed it up right and ball joints on durangos are fine...thats one of the least of the problems with the vehicle under normal use. .
From : dan j s
i dont get it . . .its been my experience that even when properly lubed ball joints just dont last forever and commonly need normal replacement at 50-60 thousand miles. what is the problem with that people budd the ball joints on durangos were not the proper ones. mine went out at 20k and then after every 10k. any mechanic that ever dealt with them will tell you they were to weak for the weight of the automobile. dan bullshit dan...you had other issues with the vehicle and it wasnt the ball joints. budd summed it up right and ball joints on durangos are fine...thats one of the least of the problems with the vehicle under normal use. i loved the durango... dont get me wrong but i did go through many sets of ball joints. it didnt bother me because except for the last pair they were all covered. the last pair where the kind you can lube. sold the truck six months after that install. i really didnt have any issues with the durango. i loved it. i have issues with new durangos post 99 where i started to see some cut backs like no paint in the engine compartment - only undercoat etc. i dont really have anything bad to say about dodge. i am looking at a 2500 right now - but cant find any stick shifts that have the hemi. the last thing that i really had an issue with was the tranny slipping - when i traded the car in the dealer informed me they had to rebuild in. maybe the ball joints changed a bit but i know of many people with problems. .
From : jerry
budd cochran wrote i dont care for sealed bearings in most applications either jerry but then im also not afraid to get my hands dirty packing bearings unlike some people. what the fuck is your point budd the damn things are sealed from the factory not by owners that buy the truck. nothing but a meaningless comment. jerry .
From : iamgoode
as im sure you are picking up the factory ball joints are sealed that in itself is the biggest problem. if they could be lubed i suspect they would have lasted another 15k. rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : budd cochran
so whats keeping everyone from popping the plugs out if they still have them and putting in a set of grease zerks -- budd cochran as im sure you are picking up the factory ball joints are sealed that in itself is the biggest problem. if they could be lubed i suspect they would have lasted another 15k. rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : budd cochran
so when is the new dak coming out . 222 267166 ohe5b.1189$nz5.894@02.roc.ny which in my opinion is about the dumbest thing to come down the pike in years. ford tried it and dropped it way back in the early 60s. -- budd cochran budd cochran wrote and did he maintain them according to schedule how did he drive the vehicle lots of variables ya know. then go buy a toyota and quit whining. but if you dont grease the balljoints theyll wear too fast also. nothing to maintain the ball joints are sealed. jerry .
From : metaldaze
the ball joints on my dakota went bad around 25000 miles. a friend of mine had his ball joints on his dakota replaced under warrenty in the first year under 6000 miles. dodge makes great looking trucks too bad their oem parts suck. i wish i could find a truck with dodge styling and toyota quality. mine never squeaked just started making a clunking noise. you can usually grab the top of the wheel and pull out/push in and feel for slop bud the upper ball joints on the dorangos/daks are preatty weak mine started getting loose around 45k... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : budd cochran
45 k thats still pretty good service. on the old torsion bar suspension systems a well maintained set up uppers could go 100k no sweat. that much slop and the clunking sounds like either a lack of and/or low quality lubricants. were used. -- budd cochran mine never squeaked just started making a clunking noise. you can usually grab the top of the wheel and pull out/push in and feel for slop bud the upper ball joints on the dorangos/daks are preatty weak mine started getting loose around 45k... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : budd cochran
the ball joints on my dakota went bad around 25000 miles. a friend of mine had his ball joints on his dakota replaced under warrenty in the first year under 6000 miles. and did he maintain them according to schedule how did he drive the vehicle lots of variables ya know. dodge makes great looking trucks too bad their oem parts suck. i wish i could find a truck with dodge styling and toyota quality. then go buy a toyota and quit whining. but if you dont grease the balljoints theyll wear too fast also. budd 20030902183452.14338.00000402@mb-m12.aol.com... mine never squeaked just started making a clunking noise. you can usually grab the top of the wheel and pull out/push in and feel for slop bud the upper ball joints on the dorangos/daks are preatty weak mine started getting loose around 45k... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : gary glaenzeriamgoode
you dont you replace it i have a 1994 2500 dodge ram 8.0 auto. about one time in three i have to start my truck in neutral insted of park. how/where do you adjust the neutral safety switch thanks bruce .
From : iamgoode
mine never squeaked just started making a clunking noise. you can usually grab the top of the wheel and pull out/push in and feel for slop bud the upper ball joints on the dorangos/daks are preatty weak mine started getting loose around 45k... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : thehotone
i would of gladly paid the extra $.050 for the greaseable ones to keep salt and moisture out of them and yes they are junk they should last 100000 .
From : jerry
budd cochran wrote and did he maintain them according to schedule how did he drive the vehicle lots of variables ya know. then go buy a toyota and quit whining. but if you dont grease the balljoints theyll wear too fast also. nothing to maintain the ball joints are sealed. jerry .
From : the mayoriamgoode
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From : metaldazebrad
i wouldnt be whining if i didnt have to replace the starter and fly wheel after 25000 miles. i had to have the rear end rebuilt after 35000 miles. oh and the paint started peeling after 4 years. budd how do you maintain maintenance free ball joints i didnt say i wanted a toyota i dont like the look of them. the ball joints on my dakota went bad around 25000 miles. a friend of mine had his ball joints on his dakota replaced under warrenty in the first year under 6000 miles. and did he maintain them according to schedule how did he drive the vehicle lots of variables ya know. dodge makes great looking trucks too bad their oem parts suck. i wish i could find a truck with dodge styling and toyota quality. then go buy a toyota and quit whining. but if you dont grease the balljoints theyll wear too fast also. budd 20030902183452.14338.00000402@mb-m12.aol.com... mine never squeaked just started making a clunking noise. you can usually grab the top of the wheel and pull out/push in and feel for slop bud the upper ball joints on the dorangos/daks are preatty weak mine started getting loose around 45k... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : brad
dont pop the cap and put in a grease fitting not maded the same its rubber twisted in the non lube ford has the same problem on 2 and 350 must be the folks that make them .
From : budd cochran
what are you talking about rubber twisted in what inside the joint plugging the lube hole -- budd cochran dont pop the cap and put in a grease fitting not maded the same its rubber twisted in the non lube ford has the same problem on 2 and 350 must be the folks that make them .
From : iamgoode
there are no plugs. ive seen what you are talking about on mid 80s ford vehicles... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : budd cochran
i wouldnt be whining if i didnt have to replace the starter and fly wheel after 25000 miles. and ive been running a bad ring gear for 25000 miles...youre point is i had to have the rear end rebuilt after 35000 miles. there seem to have been some problems but im not going to say its all dcs fault. oh and the paint started peeling after 4 years. it happens. it happened in the 60s. sheesh! budd how do you maintain maintenance free ball joints if you can you put in zerks and buy a grease gun. i didnt say i wanted a toyota i dont like the look of them. but you whined about dodge quality as compared to toyota. good looks wont get you home from the boondocks. budd .
From : nitpik
between oil changes and only uses a quart about every 3000 miles even when towing the 6500 lb 5th wheel. with the new intake gasket the check engine light doesnt come on for almost 2 days. back for visit number 4.......... this time they decide its the majority of the ignition system... which i refuse to let them replace. so i got the chrysler performance cap and rotor and a new set of the really good belden wires from napa... replace them in shifts over time... cap and rotor of course causes no change - check engine still on. wires also no change - check engine still on. so just for giggles i ordered the taylor spiro-pro wires and put them on a couple weeks ago. you guessed it - no change... so truck now in for visit number five... dealer says its just number 1 thats missing today and has now decided its not plugs or wires or injectors or compression or poltergeist... they now think its a mechanical problem and are pulling the valve cover to see if they can see anything... good grief! only good thing about all this is ive gotten to drive a lot of cars im really glad i didnt buy! chevy cavalier ford focus some other noisy tinny piece of crap that i cant even remember... how many box tops do you have to send in to be a 5 star dealer . 222 267192 0%o5b.111$8o5.52371@.uswest.net im pretty sure ive seen zirk kits with a drill bit and zirks just for aftermarket uses like this. there are no plugs. ive seen what you are talking about on mid 80s ford vehicles... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : budd cochran
the joints cannot be assembled with grease already in them so how do they get it in there has to be some kind of plug. -- budd cochran there are no plugs. ive seen what you are talking about on mid 80s ford vehicles... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : budd cochran
me too. -- budd cochran im pretty sure ive seen zirk kits with a drill bit and zirks just for aftermarket uses like this. there are no plugs. ive seen what you are talking about on mid 80s ford vehicles... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : iamgoode
nope a ruppber boot.. its actually an oval hole for the shaft conected to the ball to stick through. a rubber boot covers the open side of the joint. i suspect if you wanted to get creative you could drill and tap the metal cap and add zerks.. some of the aftermarket replacements come with zerks already installed... rec.bicycles.marketplace .
From : anthony diodati
anthony diodati wrote richard wrote recall applies to 2000 + i believe. anthony hi all we have a side job coming up to replace ball joints on a 1998 durango its the upper ball jointsbut he wants to replace all 4. but i was wondering i heard something about a recall or warranty or something. does anyone know if this would apply to the 1998 durango i dont think he is the orginial owner though but it might not matter. thanks tony d. thanks richthink i read that in a gs i can use the money but i dont want him to have to pay parts/labor if he didnt have to. thanks tony d. bty havent looked at the truck too well yet are these a pressed in ball joint or possibley pressed in lower and rivited in top thanks tony d. .
From : richard
recall applies to 2000 + i believe. anthony hi all we have a side job coming up to replace ball joints on a 1998 durango its the upper ball jointsbut he wants to replace all 4. but i was wondering i heard something about a recall or warranty or something. does anyone know if this would apply to the 1998 durango i dont think he is the orginial owner though but it might not matter. thanks tony d. .
From : anthony diodati
richard wrote recall applies to 2000 + i believe. anthony hi all we have a side job coming up to replace ball joints on a 1998 durango its the upper ball jointsbut he wants to replace all 4. but i was wondering i heard something about a recall or warranty or something. does anyone know if this would apply to the 1998 durango i dont think he is the orginial owner though but it might not matter. thanks tony d. thanks richthink i read that in a gs i can use the money but i dont want him to have to pay parts/labor if he didnt have to. thanks tony d. .
From : gunner
i went through the whole thing when i bought a dakota for my wife. the only thing dodge will reimburse you for is a trw replacement ball joint for the uppers @ $35 each. they are riveted in and were fairly easy to replace. i got a air hammer from a parts store and did it myself all 4 on a saturday. btw buy moog. you can lube those but you cant lube trw. joe hi all we have a side job coming up to replace ball joints on a 1998 durango its the upper ball jointsbut he wants to replace all 4. but i was wondering i heard something about a recall or warranty or something. does anyone know if this would apply to the 1998 durango i dont think he is the orginial owner though but it might not matter. thanks tony d. .
From : jerry
theguy wrote jerry i hope that you will be able to overcome the pain and anguish caused when budd aka the bearded fat lady at the circus turned his back on you. i think he meant me too so i too will have to find a way to cope with the disappointment. but being a very resilient person i am sure that i will find a way. its going to be one of my greatest challenges in life but i will give it my best. maybe there is a bc support group out there. jerry .