cb antenna

From : montanajeeper

Q: id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks .

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From : jeff mayner

jerry wrote roy wrote bush is usually pronounced idiot maybe maybe not but he is the best idiot we have around for the job at hand. jerry i dont care what anyone thinks around here politically but heres the funniest parody picture ive seen yet. http//www.ou1.com/jk.html showed it to my neighbor a strong bush supporter and he laughed out loud. ;- jeff .

From : jerry

tbone wrote roy wrote bush is usually pronounced idiot maybe maybe not but he is the best idiot we have around for the job at hand. lol only in your wildest dreams. oh thats right i forgot ............ he forgot to say mother may i to the french. not to worry though wannabe jfk will get on his knees for them provided some pissed off vet doesnt give him his fourth purple heart which will probable be the only real one he will ever earns. hell if i had of know it was that easy to get them id have trunk full of them. most likely most of the guys in this group would have at least a dozen. oh well well see come november. jerry .

From : tbone

you would probably do a better job than what we have now. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on fri 06 aug 2004 230737 gmt jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote redneck tookover hell wrote did he mention that he was in the military *gag* im not sure i think he may have mentioned in passing that he was in vietnam though he may have been there but he didnt serve there. at least not in the manner that most veterans did. jerry hell i spent 2 years there does that mean i should be president lmao mac .

From : mac davis

on mon 09 aug 2004 141254 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote you would probably do a better job than what we have now. dunno t... i got 2 of those purple things and could never figure out why its a medal... i mean your job is to kill people and not get killed so why get a bonus for zigging when you should of zagged a friend of mine did 3 tours in nam as a marine and he still jumps at shadows after 30 years and cant handle 4th of july fireworks... i dont think id want him in the white house with his finger on the button.. mac .

From : tbone

tbone wrote roy wrote bush is usually pronounced idiot maybe maybe not but he is the best idiot we have around for the job at hand. lol only in your wildest dreams. oh thats right i forgot ............ he forgot to say mother may i to the french. hahahaha yea right. that bs is getting old and as we can see the french germans and russians were correct and our pinheaded president was as usual w r o n g !!! not to worry though wannabe jfk will get on his knees for them provided some pissed off vet doesnt give him his fourth purple heart which will probable be the only real one he will ever earns. once again you speak out of your ass. how typical of you. what proof do you have that he didnt earn his medals and btw how many do you have at least he was there and fighting for his country unlike our current coward for a president. funny how he has no problem putting our men in harms way for a total bs war in iraq but when about to be called to duty himself he hid behind daddys money and joined the guard where he didnt even complete his hitch there in the safety of the us. yea this is the man of honor that we need running out country fucking coward. hell if i had of know it was that easy to get them id have trunk full of them. lol and least you stay consistant in your ignorance. most likely most of the guys in this group would have at least a dozen. then why dont they perhaps because they are in fact not so easy to get and you are as usual full of shit. oh well well see come november. yes we will and i bet you said the same thing when his father was running against some country bumpkin named bill lol. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on mon 09 aug 2004 141254 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote you would probably do a better job than what we have now. dunno t... i got 2 of those purple things and could never figure out why its a medal... because you made a sacrifice for your country. granted you may or may not have been gravely wounded but who is going to draw the line on how wounded you need to be to consider it a sacrifice. i mean your job is to kill people and not get killed so why get a bonus for zigging when you should of zagged being one who was wounded yourself i believe that you know that it is not all that simple. did you purposely put yourself in front of whatever wounded you remember that it is also their job to kill you as well and you go into it knowing that. a friend of mine did 3 tours in nam as a marine and he still jumps at shadows after 30 years and cant handle 4th of july fireworks... not to attack someone that i dont even know but to purposely serve three tours kinda shows that he probably didnt have both ores in the water to begin. i dont think id want him in the white house with his finger on the button.. 3 consecutive tours in that hell is bound to have adverse effects on people and i wouldnt want him in the white house either but that has nothing to do with kerry. the fact is that bush has done nothing positive for this country in general and has only succeeded in making the wealthy even richer at the expense of the rest of us. if you can think of something positive that he has done please post it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : idaspode

on thu 5 aug 2004 104538 -0400 democreep party k@demonutcreeps.net wrote flush the johns in 2004 vote for bush the way things ought to be both in the family unit and the white house one dick one bush dj .

From : tbone

on thu 5 aug 2004 104538 -0400 democreep party k@demonutcreeps.net wrote flush the johns in 2004 vote for bush the way things ought to be both in the family unit and the white house one dick - and in this case the name fits one bush - as in pussy as shown in his cowardly military record dj so in a time of constant terror alerts record deficit soldiers dying just about every day for no real purpose a crippled economy with the middle class being crushed the reason you want to vote for the idiot is because of the gay marriage issue how about all of the family units that lost there homes and livelihoods are you really this ignorant ill ask you as well what good did bush really do for this country and back up your answers. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

tbone wrote hahahaha yea right. that bs is getting old and as we can see the french germans and russians were correct and our pinheaded president was as usual w r o n g !!! no he was not wrong and you know it. he done exactly what kerry and his fellow democrats gave him permission to do . kerry got the same information bush did and publicly stated there were wmd so if bush was wrong then so was kerry. only reason it is getting old is because it is the truth something you seem to want to avoid. once again you speak out of your ass. how typical of you. what proof do you have that he didnt earn his medals and btw i dont need to show you proof. that is available anywhere you want to look and you know it. how many do you have ive got 14 medals with three silver and two bronze campaign stars. no purple hearts though. either i was very lucky or as mac says was good at zigging and zagging. now how many do you have bottom line is i know what im talking about unlike yourself that merely runs his mouth constantly with no experience to back it up. ive never said bush was the best only that he is the best available choice at the present. personally i would rather see zell miller democrat georgia or joe liberman democrat connecticut on the ticket as i would vote for either but since they arent then the clear choice for me is the guy that will honestly do good for the country and that isnt kerry. now before you continue to call people constant in their ignorance how about getting you own shit together asshole. oh the answer to your question as why dont they have a dozen medals guys in this group............. probable because cuts and bruises were a daily thing to them and they didnt run to their commanding officer demanding a purple heart like kerry. btw the doctor the one that actually treated kerry for one of his supposed wounds is on the now say it is bs. truth is tbone i really dont give a crap about kerrys viet nam service but i find it very strange that the very war he condemned and called american servicemen rapist and baby killers is now the base of his campaign while at the same time he is trying to make iraq the new viet nam. think it has to do with the fact he has no other record to stand on.......... no bush isnt the coward. kerry is the fucking coward and you just may learn that the hard way. see you at the polls................. jerry .

From : tbone

mgg wrote ill ask you as well what good did bush really do for this country and back up your answers. he wont because he cant its a two way street. what has kerry accomplished during his entire time in the senate and back up your answers. how lame. as usual instead of actually running on bushs record you need to attack the other guy. perhaps that is because bush doesnt have a record worth looking at. what accomplishments did bush have prior to becoming president the fact is that it really doesnt matter. the only thing that does matter is what he did while he is president and that equates to nothing of value. roy said it correctly when he once stated that debating politics is a no win situation in a group. just like tbone you cant provide anything to backup anything but still you demand everyone else should. you said that you would vote for lieberman please list his great accomplishments. you are the one who keps saying that he is the best man for the job prove it. bush like it or not is running with his record. kerry like it or not is running from his. sorry pal but you got that backwards as usual. if bush were actually running with his record there would be no need to attack kerrys but ill ask again what exactly did bush do for this country. answer - not a damn thing in 3 1/2 years and that is a failure any way that you spin it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : roy

on mon 09 aug 2004 141254 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote you would probably do a better job than what we have now. dunno t... i got 2 of those purple things and could never figure out why its a medal... because you made a sacrifice for your country. granted you may or may not have been gravely wounded but who is going to draw the line on how wounded you need to be to consider it a sacrifice. i mean your job is to kill people and not get killed so why get a bonus for zigging when you should of zagged being one who was wounded yourself i believe that you know that it is not all that simple. did you purposely put yourself in front of whatever wounded you remember that it is also their job to kill you as well and you go into it knowing that. it certainly is that simple imo. a friend of mine did 3 tours in nam as a marine and he still jumps at shadows after 30 years and cant handle 4th of july fireworks... not to attack someone that i dont even know but to purposely serve three tours kinda shows that he probably didnt have both ores in the water to begin. doubtful youd ever understand. not a flame just that it is what it is. i dont think id want him in the white house with his finger on the button.. 3 consecutive tours in that hell is bound to have adverse effects on people and i wouldnt want him in the white house either but that has nothing to do with kerry. one firefight will have a adverse effect on people. the fact is that bush has done nothing positive for this country in general and has only succeeded in making the wealthy even richer at the expense of the rest of us. if you can think of something positive that he has done please post it. t bone! i know it is hard to believe but this is where you and i agree!!! no i am not going to debate politics. roy .

From : tbone

on mon 09 aug 2004 141254 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote you would probably do a better job than what we have now. dunno t... i got 2 of those purple things and could never figure out why its a medal... because you made a sacrifice for your country. granted you may or may not have been gravely wounded but who is going to draw the line on how wounded you need to be to consider it a sacrifice. i mean your job is to kill people and not get killed so why get a bonus for zigging when you should of zagged being one who was wounded yourself i believe that you know that it is not all that simple. did you purposely put yourself in front of whatever wounded you remember that it is also their job to kill you as well and you go into it knowing that. it certainly is that simple imo. a friend of mine did 3 tours in nam as a marine and he still jumps at shadows after 30 years and cant handle 4th of july fireworks... not to attack someone that i dont even know but to purposely serve three tours kinda shows that he probably didnt have both ores in the water to begin. doubtful youd ever understand. not a flame just that it is what it is. and you would be correct. i dont think id want him in the white house with his finger on the button.. 3 consecutive tours in that hell is bound to have adverse effects on people and i wouldnt want him in the white house either but that has nothing to do with kerry. one firefight will have a adverse effect on people. so just imagine how much 3 tours of it can cause. the fact is that bush has done nothing positive for this country in general and has only succeeded in making the wealthy even richer at the expense of the rest of us. if you can think of something positive that he has done please post it. t bone! i know it is hard to believe but this is where you and i agree!!! scary isnt it. no i am not going to debate politics. wise move and one that i should follow as well but we both know better than that. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

tbone wrote hahahaha yea right. that bs is getting old and as we can see the french germans and russians were correct and our pinheaded president was as usual w r o n g !!! no he was not wrong and you know it. i know no such thing. where are the wmds where are the terrorist camps where is the big threat to this country the threat is much greater now then it was prior to the dumbasses decision to attack. he done exactly what kerry and his fellow democrats gave him permission to do . lol yea like they had a choice. kerry got the same information bush did and publicly stated there were wmd so if bush was wrong then so was kerry. sure they all said it in the beginning but even with the evidence comming in that this was not the case our idiot president still pushed for war when others began voting against it. then there is that money issue that you right wingers keep trying to push aside and was the actual reason that kerry and others changed there minds. iow it came to be that there was no way to pay for it but what the hell..... only reason it is getting old is because it is the truth something you seem to want to avoid. actually it is less than half of the truth but you right wing spin masters are good at that. once again you speak out of your ass. how typical of you. what proof do you have that he didnt earn his medals and btw i dont need to show you proof. that is available anywhere you want to look and you know it. lol. iow you dont have any. just that right wing bs that you like to look at on the web. funny how mccain also says that it is bullshit and he is campaigning for bush. he even suggested that the bush campaign denounce that bs but of course our coward of a president wouldnt do it. how many do you have ive got 14 medals with three silver and two bronze campaign stars. no purple hearts though. either i was very lucky or as mac says was good at zigging and zagging. now how many do you have in what war ww1 - i have no medals as there was nothing going on when i was of age. bottom line is i know what im talking about unlike yourself that merely runs his mouth constantly with no experience to back it up. ive never said bush was the best only that he is the best available choice at the present. ok back that up. what exactly has he done for this country that benefits the majority of its citizens he has done plenty for the wealthy and his friends what has he done for the rest of us personally i would rather see zell miller democrat georgia or joe liberman democrat connecticut on the ticket as i would vote for either but since they arent then the clear choice for me is the guy that will honestly do good for the country and that isnt kerry. like i said above what good has bush done for this country with the faltering stock market dropping job creation and now the dropping consumer index where is the good side and today iraq has stopped production in some of its oil fields due to the instability and terrorist threats caused by our war so you can count on more fuel price increases to further help the economy. now before you continue to call people constant in their ignorance how about getting you own shit together asshole. lol perhaps when you stop believing all of the right wing spin and open your eyes a little you will see the truth name calling aside. oh the answer to your question as why dont they have a dozen medals guys in this group............. probable because cuts and bruises were a daily thing to them and they didnt run to their commanding officer demanding a purple heart like kerry. once again where is your proof. hell ill go along with him exagurating some wounds to get the hell out of there as soon as possible but at least he went which is far more than i can say for our current president. it is funny how bush can send in our national guard to fight and die but was unwilling to do the same. btw the doctor the one that actually treated kerry for one of his supposed wounds is on the now say it is bs. really back it up with a link. funny how you have no trouble believing this bs but when a base commander says that bush never showed up for his last year in the guard that must be a complete lie lol. truth is tbone i really dont give a crap about kerrys viet nam service but i find it very strange that the very war he condemned and called american servicemen rapist and baby killers is now the base of his campaign while at the same time he is trying to make iraq the new viet nam. why he like many didnt agree with that war and there were many documented cases of the crimes that be condemned some soldiers for but unlike our current president he did his duty and went when called. the sad fact is that this war is the new viet nam since we were brought into it under false pretences and for no real purpose and most of the deaths

From : jerry

mgg wrote ill ask you as well what good did bush really do for this country and back up your answers. he wont because he cant its a two way street. what has kerry accomplished during his entire time in the senate and back up your answers. roy said it correctly when he once stated that debating politics is a no win situation in a group. just like tbone you cant provide anything to backup anything but still you demand everyone else should. bush like it or not is running with his record. kerry like it or not is running from his. jerry .

From : mgg

ill ask you as well what good did bush really do for this country and back up your answers. he wont because he cant --mike on thu 5 aug 2004 104538 -0400 democreep party k@demonutcreeps.net wrote flush the johns in 2004 vote for bush the way things ought to be both in the family unit and the white house one dick - and in this case the name fits one bush - as in pussy as shown in his cowardly military record dj so in a time of constant terror alerts record deficit soldiers dying just about every day for no real purpose a crippled economy with the middle class being crushed the reason you want to vote for the idiot is because of the gay marriage issue how about all of the family units that lost there homes and livelihoods are you really this ignorant ill ask you as well what good did bush really do for this country and back up your answers. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

tbone wrote i know no such thing. where are the wmds where are the terrorist camps where is the big threat to this country none have been found and there may have never been any there but the president went on the same information he received that kerry received. that doesnt make him a liar but very simply very misinformed the threat is much greater now then it was prior to the dumbasses decision to attack. bullshit .....using your word prove it. he done exactly what kerry and his fellow democrats gave him permission to do . lol yea like they had a choice. yeah right .......... thats your kerry cant make his own choice. kerry got the same information bush did and publicly stated there were wmd so if bush was wrong then so was kerry. sure they all said it in the beginning but even with the evidence comming in that this was not the case our idiot president still pushed for war when others began voting against it. what are you talking about............ we were at war when the first plane hit. however if you mean iraq we had already invaded long before kerry found it political favorable to change his mind. then there is that money issue that you right wingers keep trying to push aside and was the actual reason that kerry and others changed there minds. iow it came to be that there was no way to pay for it but what the hell..... the bill passed didnt it .............. guess that means kerry and the few very few that voted against it were in the minority. but then what the hell let the troops find their own way out of iraq and screw giving them anymore equipment to fight with......... thats what kerry stood for. only reason it is getting old is because it is the truth something you seem to want to avoid. actually it is less than half of the truth but you right wing spin masters are good at that. better than no truth as you seem to spew. once again you speak out of your ass. how typical of you. what proof do you have that he didnt earn his medals and btw i dont need to show you proof. that is available anywhere you want to look and you know it. lol. iow you dont have any. just that right wing bs that you like to look at on the web. then do your own search and stop asking me to do it for you. funny how mccain also says that it is bullshit and he is campaigning for bush. bullshit .............. mccain simply said it shouldnt be a issue. he never say anything else. more lies ............. he even suggested that the bush campaign denounce that bs but of course our coward of a president wouldnt do it. again ......... mccain never said it was bullshit but only the tactic should not be used and btw it is not the republican party that is running the add so why should bush denounce it. might say the same thing about michael moores bull shit movie that kerry doesnt denounce. oh i forgot ....... you probable believed it. how many do you have ive got 14 medals with three silver and two bronze campaign stars. no purple hearts though. either i was very lucky or as mac says was good at zigging and zagging. now how many do you have in what war ww1 - i have no medals as there was nothing going on when i was of age. but that doesnt stop you from running your mouth about something you have absolutely no experience with. bottom line is i know what im talking about unlike yourself that merely runs his mouth constantly with no experience to back it up. ive never said bush was the best only that he is the best available choice at the present. ok back that up. what exactly has he done for this country that benefits the majority of its citizens he has done plenty for the wealthy and his friends what has he done for the rest of us why list them you would simply refuse to acknowledge anything and dont give me this crap about the economy as it has been proven it was headed for the dumpster before bush took office. couple that with 9/11 white collar scandals and several other factor he had no control over the economy thanks to bush is recovering. personally i would rather see zell miller democrat georgia or joe liberman democrat connecticut on the ticket as i would vote for either but since they arent then the clear choice for me is the guy that will honestly do good for the country and that isnt kerry. like i said above what good has bush done for this country with the faltering stock market dropping job creation and now the dropping consumer index where is the good side and today iraq has stopped production in some of its oil fields due to the instability and terrorist threats caused by our war so you can count on more fuel price increases to further help the economy. its one thing to be ignorant but to be a ignorant fool as you just proved with that crap is really something. now before you continue to call peopl

From : tbone

tbone wrote i know no such thing. where are the wmds where are the terrorist camps where is the big threat to this country none have been found and there may have never been any there but the president went on the same information he received that kerry received. that doesnt make him a liar but very simply very misinformed lol yea right. sorry jerry but being the leader of the only super power in the world he needs to be damn sure that the information was correct before proceeding and he not only didnt do that he pushed the time table ahead of any possible results from the inspectors imagine that. the threat is much greater now then it was prior to the dumbasses decision to attack. bullshit .....using your word prove it. watch the jerry perhaps read a paper. how many of our soldiers died after our president declared victory compared to before. the talliban is regrouping and iraq is full of terrorists that were not there prior to our invasion. looks more dangerous to me. he done exactly what kerry and his fellow democrats gave him permission to do . lol yea like they had a choice. yeah right .......... thats your kerry cant make his own choice. not with the right wing spin machine pumping out bs about iraq being the hot spot for terror and anyone that doesnt believe it is a traitor. the sad thing is that in politics you sometimes have to do things that you know are wrong to be able to complete the tasks that you believe in especially when you are not the one in charge. kerry got the same information bush did and publicly stated there were wmd so if bush was wrong then so was kerry. sure they all said it in the beginning but even with the evidence comming in that this was not the case our idiot president still pushed for war when others began voting against it. what are you talking about............ we were at war when the first plane hit. however if you mean iraq we had already invaded long before kerry found it political favorable to change his mind. nope. then there is that money issue that you right wingers keep trying to push aside and was the actual reason that kerry and others changed there minds. iow it came to be that there was no way to pay for it but what the hell..... the bill passed didnt it .............. guess that means kerry and the few very few that voted against it were in the minority. duh no shit. but then what the hell let the troops find their own way out of iraq and screw giving them anymore equipment to fight with......... thats what kerry stood for. lol nice spin but complete bs. only reason it is getting old is because it is the truth something you seem to want to avoid. actually it is less than half of the truth but you right wing spin masters are good at that. better than no truth as you seem to spew. not really and exactlly where did i lie to the american people once again you speak out of your ass. how typical of you. what proof do you have that he didnt earn his medals and btw i dont need to show you proof. that is available anywhere you want to look and you know it. lol. iow you dont have any. just that right wing bs that you like to look at on the web. then do your own search and stop asking me to do it for you. i did and cant find anything of real value and apparently neither can you. funny how mccain also says that it is bullshit and he is campaigning for bush. bullshit .............. mccain simply said it shouldnt be a issue. he never say anything else. more lies ............. oh really. then why did he say in an interview with the associated press mccain called the ad dishonest and dishonorable. asked if the white house was behind it mccain said i hope not but i dont know. but i think the bush campaign should s

From : jerry

tbone wrote how lame. as usual instead of actually running on bushs record you need to attack the other guy. how dumb can you get.....every time you make a stupid comment like this you are simple pointing a finger at yourself. perhaps that is because bush doesnt have a record worth looking at. better than kerry who has none. im still waiting for the accomplishments of kerry that you keep avoiding. cant you come up with at least one thing he has done......lol.... of course not. what accomplishments did bush have prior to becoming president and what hole have you been living in.... the fact is that it really doesnt matter. to you it doesnt because you would simply spin and lie about it anyway out of pure hatred of the man. the only thing that does matter is what he did while he is president and that equates to nothing of value. only if value to everyone like yourself equates to taxing the hell out of everyone and expanding government roy said it correctly when he once stated that debating politics is a no win situation in a group. just like tbone you cant provide anything to backup anything but still you demand everyone else should. you said that you would vote for lieberman please list his great accomplishments. now since you cant show one damn accomplishment of kerry you want to spin to liberman ......... typical of your trolling bullshit. you are the one who keps saying that he is the best man for the job prove it. more trolling bullshit from the expert. i said he was the best choice between he and kerry and he is like it or not. where is your proof that kerry is better. how long do we have to wait for you to put up or shut up. oh i forgot you dont do that you just demand everyone else does. bush like it or not is running with his record. kerry like it or not is running from his. sorry pal but you got that backwards as usual. if bush were actually running with his record there would be no need to attack kerrys but ill ask again okay so asking kerry to explain his record is attacking ....... how far will you go to parrot the party line like a good little puppet. stand on you own two feet for a change and show us the great accomplishments of kerry. you cant and you never will. what exactly did bush do for this country. answer - not a damn thing in 3 1/2 years and that is a failure any way that you spin it. no spin at all. both mens records are there for the viewing but like the good little puppet troll you are you refuse to explain kerrys record but instead attack with hate. where is kerys accomplishments dont you have anything anything at all....... now if all you are going to do is continue with your typical bullshit troll spin instead of debate the records then this is a wasted topic. however should you get the balls to actually attempt to post or cite accomplishments of kerry and like i said any accomplishment will be a start them pleas do so. i like everyone else know you wont because he has absolutely zero accomplishments but maybe you can imagine some which you are very good at. cant you find anything anything at all supportive of kerry jerry .

From : tbone

i have a 1992 cummins 4x4 auto.great truck but lately it has been very reluctant to go into high gear.sometimes i need to back off throttle and then it will clunk into high gear.is this just a band adjustment or .

From : redneck tookover hell

less protection from scumbags you are still around so it must be true politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

how dumb can you get. dumbness ie stupidity know no bounds for da boner. he manages to set new standards most every day politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

everything i say is true red now get back on your knees your boyfriend is getting bored. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving less protection from scumbags you are still around so it must be true politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

gee red are you my new best friend. it is kinda funny watching you chase me around like the lost little puppy that you are. sorry to say that nobody is ever going to love you red no matter how much begging you do because you simply are not worth the trouble. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving how dumb can you get. dumbness ie stupidity know no bounds for da boner. he manages to set new standards most every day politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : idaspode

on 10 aug 2004 153228 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote how dumb can you get. dumbness ie stupidity know no bounds for da boner. he manages to set new standards most every day i see no answers from tboned itb only questions. if kerry is so feakin great then lets hear why you think so. other than doing what thousands upon thousands of young men did 30+ years ago whats he done since okay so he asked for one thing bush has done to help the country he quashed billybob clit-ons blatant enviroweenie land grab which billybob crammed through right at the end of his term. this may not matter much to a rube from nc but to us westerners it means a lot. idaho is about 60% public land. we sure as hell dont see much sense in some dc beltway politicos who think an outdoor experience is walking to their car in the parking lot making decisions about our livelihoods recreation lifestyle and heritage.... the economy its freakin booming around here my income has gone up in the last four years my biz is growing every day so much its hard to keep up. sorry you are worried about your welfare benefits being slashed boner... im not even sure why im responding every time he speaks he makes himself out as the village idiot then when cornered all he can do is toss out some rather predictable homophobic insults. ive been around usenet long enough to know when they start doing that theyve pretty much conceded to defeat and/or have unresolved questions about their own sexuality. hed be better off to start criticizing folks spelling at least then hed have a spell checker facts on which to rely rather than the memorized liberal crap he spews... dj .

From : jerry

idaspode wrote im not even sure why im responding every time he speaks he makes himself out as the village idiot then when cornered all he can do is toss out some rather predictable homophobic insults. you got that right and dont holding your breath waiting for tbone to name anything that kerry has accomplished in the senate. he wont he cant. jerry .

From : transurgeon

you got that right and dont holding your breath waiting for tbone to name anything that kerry has accomplished in the senate. well no a senator has to actually be present to accomplish anything............... .

From : tbone

idaspode wrote im not even sure why im responding every time he speaks he makes himself out as the village idiot then when cornered all he can do is toss out some rather predictable homophobic insults. you got that right and dont holding your breath waiting for tbone to name anything that kerry has accomplished in the senate. he wont he cant. and neither can you about bush. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : psalm 110

want to talk about swift boats george bush buddy sun myung moon gave nuclear weapons submarine sea-launch technology to north korea in 1994. http//www.ecosyn.us/adti/nukes.html sun myung moon gave north korea nuke delivery systems in 1994. sun myung moons japanese toen trading company delivered 12 russian golf missile submarines with launch tubes intact. the north korean communists studied this technology and adapted their missiles to be sea launched from surface and submarine platforms. north korea now has nuclear weapon strike capability which can reach the continental united states from sea-based mobile launch facilities at distances of 2500 miles. this website has clickable links to sun myung moon subversion sources documentation proof. http//www.ecosyn.us/adti/nukes.html links -- nk sea-missile capability http//www.navyseals.com http//www.janes.com http//www.reuters.co.uk http//.bbc.co.uk http//www.washingtontimes.com http//www.cientist.com http//www.townhall.com http//www.freerepublic.com http//www.libertyforum.org http//www.theage.com.au http//www.iht.com http//www.latimes.com links -- north korean-born sun myung moons toen trading submarine subversion http//www.freerepublic.com http//www.usasurvival.org http//www.gorenfeld.net http//www.davidicke.net http//blog.mmadsen.org http//www.kenlayne.com http//www.pandagon.net http//jameswagner.com http//functionalambivalent.typepad.com http//www.la-mancha.net http//windsofchange.net http//thoughtcrimes.org http//www.vuw.ac.nz sun myung moon owns the washington times paper and he owns the upi united press international wireservice. he controls the main washington dc conservative propaganda mill. the washington times has been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. every time that a republican politician quotes the washington times or writes an article or op-ed in it sun myung moon is made larger in his brainwashed followers eyes. conservatives are so desperate for propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet sun myung moons organized crime activities in exchange for the help his organized crime front operations deliver to them. sun myung moon has paid ex-presidents such as george herbert walker bush up to $10000000 for photo-op and endorsements because his virtually captive followers have very restricted access to . they are told that everybody moon shakes hands with has accepted moon as their lord and savior. this global slave labor force replenishes a $10 million expense for faked stage setting photo-op in a couple of days. links about moonies bush washinton times connections the moonies everything you wanted to know about sun myung moon and the unification church moonie and related links * the right wing media conspiracy - how the moonies and right wing groups control the media * moonies and the washington times - the mouthpiece of sun myung moon * is george bush a moonie - bush takes $100000 to endorse the moonies * inside look at the moonies - great article i snagged * moonie front organizations - 1000 organization that are moonie fronts * consortium - very good articles about moonies and other right wingers * bush and moon - us cia and korean cia ghw bush praises sun myung moon as man of vision * sun myung moon - the savior messiah and king of kings of all of humanity * the bush-kim-moon triangle of money - the political largesse of sun myung moon. sun myung moon crowned as second coming in dc the of a very strange event that occurred at the end of march but was quietly swept under the carpet by the mainstream media is just now beginning to leak out. expect to hear more about it in the coming days. heres a preview on what surely must be one of the most bizarre happenings in the long history of congressional oddities... it occurred on march 23 2004 when reverend sun myung moon cultist leader of the unification church currently known as the family federation for world peace and unification was crowned king of peace in a coronation ceremony. in his coronation speech moon told the audience that it was now time to officially recognize him as the returned messiah. links moon crowned in the capital unification church sun myung moon crowned king of america at u.s. senate building hail to the moon king moon over washington sun myung moon crowned messiah by congressmen sun myung moon crowned as messiah by u.s. senate! moonie leader crowned in senate sun myung moon crowned messiah! u.s. lawmakers crown rev. sun myung moon messiah! heres a guy the republicans dont want us to know about. actually it was a democrat conservative to the great relief of republican conservatives who placed the crown on moon in this hoax ceremony. in moons world he replaces all governments with his taliban so republicans and democrats all will be liquidated. the quaint mass marriage ceremonies of the moonie

From : tbone

on 10 aug 2004 153228 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote how dumb can you get. dumbness ie stupidity know no bounds for da boner. he manages to set new standards most every day i see no answers from tboned itb only questions. if kerry is so feakin great then lets hear why you think so. other than doing what thousands upon thousands of young men did 30+ years ago whats he done since you seem to be missing the point like many others. what did reagan accomplish prior to taking over from the carter disaster sure he was governor of ca and president of the actord guild for a while but what amazing accomplishments did he make to unseat a current president. the answer - nothing but he did have good ideas and jimmy carter simply failed at the job at hand. the same could be said for clinton when he defeated bush. he had some good ideas and the current president failed at his job. it is the same situation here. while i am unaware of any major accomplishments by kerry the same could be said for gwb before he became president and he has failed to make this country a better place for the average joe iow he has failed to do the job. is kerry the best man for the job i dont know but i do know that bush is not and kerry does have some good ideas. okay so he asked for one thing bush has done to help the country he quashed billybob clit-ons blatant enviroweenie land grab which billybob crammed through right at the end of his term. this may not matter much to a rube from nc but to us westerners it means a lot. rube from nc lol. iow you are saying that bushs reversal on protection for the environment is a good thing i hope that you dont have children or grandchildren because they are the ones that will pay for some of bushs irresponsible reversals like what he did with the coal burning power plants in your midwest. if you think that harming the enviornment is a good thing that bush has done then that makes my case all the more. and speaking of sexual references perhaps you should actually read what red typically writes or posts in general such as da boner. all i do is reply in kind to assholes like that. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : transurgeon

on 10 aug 2004 153228 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote how dumb can you get. dumbness ie stupidity know no bounds for da boner. he manages to set new standards most every day i see no answers from tboned itb only questions. if kerry is so feakin great then lets hear why you think so. other than doing what thousands upon thousands of young men did 30+ years ago whats he done since you seem to be missing the point like many others. what did reagan accomplish prior to taking over from the carter disaster sure he was governor of ca and president of the actord guild for a while but what amazing accomplishments did he make to unseat a current president. the obviously you have forgotten the carter legacy......18 % interest rates + 10+% unemployment reagan got tax cuts passed which spurred investment in industry which created jobs which brought in more tax dollars than if the old tax rates had remained in place answer - nothing but he did have good ideas and jimmy carter simply failed at the job at hand. the same could be said for clinton when he defeated bush. he had some good ideas and the current president failed at his job. no the then-current congressional leadership reneged on its promise not to raise taxes ghwb should have veto-ed the budget and let the chips fall he naively thought he could trust daschle & co to keep a promise it is the same situation here. while i am unaware of any major accomplishments by kerry the same could be said for gwb before he became president and he has failed to make this country a better place for the average joe iow he has failed to do the job. i havent seen any terrorist attacks in this country since gwb took out saddams sorry ass is kerry the best man for the job i dont know but i do know that bush is not and kerry does have some good ideas. yeah faking injuries for purple hearts and claiming that nixon sent me to cambodia in december 1968 who was president then okay so he asked for one thing bush has done to help the country he quashed billybob clit-ons blatant enviroweenie land grab which billybob crammed through right at the end of his term. this may not matter much to a rube from nc but to us westerners it means a lot. rube from nc lol. iow you are saying that bushs reversal on protection for the environment is a good thing no he is saying that the federal land-grab that bent-willie rammed thru was bad i hope that you dont have children or grandchildren because they are the ones that will pay for some of bushs irresponsible reversals like what he did with the coal burning power plants in your midwest. please expand on this subject.....exactly what reversals if you think that harming the enviornment is a good thing that bush has done then that makes my case all the more. and speaking of sexual references perhaps you should actually read what red typically writes or posts in general such as da boner. all i do is reply in kind to assholes like that. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : marsh monster

.. .. ======== ========= re cb antenna from jlrice1655@earthlink.net jerry tbone wrote hahahaha yea right. that bs is getting old and as we can see the french germans and russians were correct and our pinheaded president was as usual w r o n g !!! no he was not wrong and you know it. he done exactly what kerry and his fellow democrats gave him permission to do . kerry got the same information bush did and publicly stated there were wmd so if bush was wrong then so was kerry. only reason it is getting old is because it is the truth something you seem to want to avoid. ive got 14 medals with three silver and two bronze campaign stars. no purple hearts though. either i was very lucky or as mac says was good at zigging and zagging. now how many do you have bottom line is i know what im talking about unlike yourself that merely runs his mouth constantly with no experience to back it up. ive never said bush was the best only that he is the best available choice at the present. personally i would rather see zell miller democrat georgia or joe liberman democrat connecticut on the ticket as i would vote for either but since they arent then the clear choice for me is the guy that will honestly do good for the country and that isnt kerry. now before you continue to call people constant in their ignorance how about getting you own shit together asshole. oh the answer to your question as why dont they have a dozen medals guys in this group............. probable because cuts and bruises were a daily thing to them and they didnt run to their commanding officer demanding a purple heart like kerry. btw the doctor the one that actually treated kerry for one of his supposed wounds is on the now say it is bs. truth is tbone i really dont give a crap about kerrys viet nam service but i find it very strange that the very war he condemned and called american servicemen rapist and baby killers is now the base of his campaign while at the same time he is trying to make iraq the new viet nam. think it has to do with the fact he has no other record to stand on.......... no bush isnt the coward. kerry is the fucking coward and you just may learn that the hard way. see you at the polls................. jerry ============ ============ well put..... ditto... heres a thought for t-bone to ponder.... my..our country was invaded bombed terrorized .... my..our president sent a message to the entire world..... dont f @ # k with us!!!! how he did it....i dont give a damn. he did it. i know....or i would like to have a firm feeling of belief that any terrorist plans to follow up on the actions of september 112003......were at least diverted for awhile. giving this country time to gear up. so he lied.....who gives a damn. would he have had populer support if he had come out up front and said... i want to go get this lunatic ...because hes part of the problem in the world today and i dont want to even take the chance that he may become a bigger one besides...hes killing innocent people i believe he could have gained the support for iraq however it would have taken years. the man was smart enough to take advantage of popular feeling of the day to get a job done that desperatly needed doing. now...t-bone can you feel confident that kerry would have had the same actions. i mean.... can you say positively that kerry would have sent such a strong message to the world so damn fast like others in here im not saying bush is the best man for the job. but hell get my vote for no other reason than the fact that i know....he took action instead of jumping in his boat and hauling ass in the opposite direction. and like others i would vote for a better individual. but....audy murphy aint available for the job so im going with the guy thats proven hes got the balls to stand up for what the world percieves as the mightiest country.....which today is likely the only reason were not getting bombed and blasted on a daily basis. respectfully submitted for debate marshmonster .

From : transurgeon

funny but i only heard about the possible faking of injuries for just one of them. funny how this octor can so clearly remember this minor incident from so long ago suddenly now just when kerry is running for president. btw is this man a republican or a democrate. the cambodia issue looks more like an attack on words then anything else. in is sometimes used as an exaguration for near when a point is trying to be made and how do you know that nixon didnt give such an order. iirc he was vice president at the time. jesus mary and joseph nixon was veep from 1953-1961 he didnt become president till january of 1969; hence he could not have ordered kerry to cambodia in december 1968 you want to stop now or keep digging .

From : tbone

on 10 aug 2004 153228 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote how dumb can you get. dumbness ie stupidity know no bounds for da boner. he manages to set new standards most every day i see no answers from tboned itb only questions. if kerry is so feakin great then lets hear why you think so. other than doing what thousands upon thousands of young men did 30+ years ago whats he done since you seem to be missing the point like many others. what did reagan accomplish prior to taking over from the carter disaster sure he was governor of ca and president of the actord guild for a while but what amazing accomplishments did he make to unseat a current president. the obviously you have forgotten the carter legacy......18 % interest rates + 10+% unemployment i am aware of such and actually mentioned it with my term carter disaster but that doesnt answer the question. reagan got tax cuts passed which spurred investment in industry which created jobs which brought in more tax dollars than if the old tax rates had remained in place yes because he reversed an economic downturn and created job growth. but this is a different world now and with the added corruption corporate outsourcing terrorist threats and war it will take much more than just some tax cuts that favor the wealthy to turn things around and just a look at the stock market proves that. answer - nothing but he did have good ideas and jimmy carter simply failed at the job at hand. the same could be said for clinton when he defeated bush. he had some good ideas and the current president failed at his job. no the then-current congressional leadership reneged on its promise not to raise taxes it was much more than that although he could have vetoed the budget. the problem was he made that promise without looking at the big picture and when he did he knew that the new taxes were required. ghwb should have veto-ed the budget and let the chips fall he naively thought he could trust daschle & co to keep a promise if that were true then he was not a very bright man. it is the same situation here. while i am unaware of any major accomplishments by kerry the same could be said for gwb before he became president and he has failed to make this country a better place for the average joe iow he has failed to do the job. i havent seen any terrorist attacks in this country since gwb took out saddams sorry ass saddam had nothing to do with the attack so that has no meaning. tell this to the 1000 families that lost one of their own. the fact is our lives are forever changed and i see that as more a failure than a success. is kerry the best man for the job i dont know but i do know that bush is not and kerry does have some good ideas. yeah faking injuries for purple hearts and claiming that nixon sent me to cambodia in december 1968 who was president then funny but i only heard about the possible faking of injuries for just one of them. funny how this octor can so clearly remember this minor incident from so long ago suddenly now just when kerry is running for president. btw is this man a republican or a democrate. the cambodia issue looks more like an attack on words then anything else. in is sometimes used as an exaguration for near when a point is trying to be made and how do you know that nixon didnt give such an order. iirc he was vice president at the time. okay so he asked for one thing bush has done to help the country he quashed billybob clit-ons blatant enviroweenie land grab which billybob crammed through right at the end of his term. this may not matter much to a rube from nc but to us westerners it means a lot. rube from nc lol. iow you are saying that bushs reversal on protection for the environment is a good thing no he is saying that the federal land-grab that bent-willie rammed thru was bad i am aware of that but he also removed restrictions on coal fired power plants in the mid west that are known to be heavy polluters. is there a link that you are aware of that talks about this land-grab i am curious as to what that is about. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : transurgeon

on 10 aug 2004 153228 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote how dumb can you get. dumbness ie stupidity know no bounds for da boner. he manages to set new standards most every day i see no answers from tboned itb only questions. if kerry is so feakin great then lets hear why you think so. other than doing what thousands upon thousands of young men did 30+ years ago whats he done since you seem to be missing the point like many others. what did reagan accomplish prior to taking over from the carter disaster sure he was governor of ca and president of the actord guild for a while but what amazing accomplishments did he make to unseat a current president. the obviously you have forgotten the carter legacy......18 % interest rates + 10+% unemployment i am aware of such and actually mentioned it with my term carter disaster but that doesnt answer the question. yes it does reagan proposed an alternative to the carter disaster and the american voters elected him that was an accomplishment reagan got tax cuts passed which spurred investment in industry which created jobs which brought in more tax dollars than if the old tax rates had remained in place yes because he reversed an economic downturn and created job growth. but this is a different world now and with the added corruption corporate outsourcing terrorist threats and war it will take much more than just some tax cuts that favor the wealthy to turn things around and just a look at the stock market proves that. heres a bit of data for you the top 50% of wage earners pay 96.03 % of all taxes so stop with the class-envy bull-shit about tax cuts for the wealthy because those who pay more deserve more of a cut answer - nothing but he did have good ideas and jimmy carter simply failed at the job at hand. the same could be said for clinton when he defeated bush. he had some good ideas and the current president failed at his job. no the then-current congressional leadership reneged on its promise not to raise taxes it was much more than that although he could have vetoed the budget. the problem was he made that promise without looking at the big picture and when he did he knew that the new taxes were required. ghwb should have veto-ed the budget and let the chips fall he naively thought he could trust daschle & co to keep a promise if that were true then he was not a very bright man. it is the same situation here. while i am unaware of any major accomplishments by kerry the same could be said for gwb before he became president and he has failed to make this country a better place for the average joe iow he has failed to do the job. i havent seen any terrorist attacks in this country since gwb took out saddams sorry ass saddam had nothing to do with the attack so that has no meaning. tell this to the 1000 families that lost one of their own. the fact is our lives are forever changed and i see that as more a failure than a success. i repeat there have been no terrorist attacks on us soil since saddam got taken out is kerry the best man for the job i dont know but i do know that bush is not and kerry does have some good ideas. yeah faking injuries for purple hearts and claiming that nixon sent me to cambodia in december 1968 who was president then funny but i only heard about the possible faking of injuries for just one of them. funny how this octor can so clearly remember this minor incident from so long ago suddenly now just when kerry is running for president. btw is this man a republican or a democrate. the cambodia issue looks more like an attack on words then anything else. in is sometimes used as an exaguration for near when a point is trying to be made and how do you know that nixon didnt give such an order. iirc he was vice president at the time. http//www.swiftvets.com/ has the details read it if you have the balls to see your hero unmasked for the lying coward that he is.......... okay so he asked for one thing bush has done to help the country he quashed billybob clit-ons blatant enviroweenie land grab which billybob crammed through right at the end of his term. this may not matter much to a rube from nc but to us westerners it means a lot. rube from nc lol. iow you are saying that bushs reversal on protection for the environment is a good thing no he is saying that the federal land-grab that bent-willie rammed thru was bad i am aware of that but he also removed restrictions on coal fired power plants in the mid west that are known to be heavy polluters. is there a link that you are aware of that talks about this land-grab i am curious as to what that is about. once more expand on this alledged removal of restrictions on coal-fired power plants i know what the changes were do you btw i see that youve moderate

From : jerry

tbone wrote the cambodia issue looks more like an attack on words then anything else. in is sometimes used as an exaguration for near when a point is trying to be made god i love when this kind of dumb stuff is blurted out. kerry said i remember it as plain as day i was inside cambodia. attack on my words my ass. and how do you know that nixon didnt give such an order. lolololol........ this gets better every time you open your mouth. duh ......... maybe because nixon wasnt president in 1968. iirc he was vice president at the time. gee-golly i dont know there now billy bob tbone .......naw you loose again you do not recall correctly .....lololol......nixon was vice president in 1952 but what the hell your dumb ass guess only missed by 16 years. now we all know your life as a troll is the only life you really have but damn man at least try to do it a little better. jerry .

From : jerry

mgg wrote ...and with narrow mided nut jobs like you guys supporting bush in this fashion it aint helping his cause or votes. you just swayed me to the kerry side. nice job! oh bullshit. you had no intentions of voting for bush and you proved that with your post 2 days ago. jerry .

From : mgg

no bush isnt the coward. kerry is the fucking coward and you just may learn that the hard way. see you at the polls................. ....and with narrow mided nut jobs like you guys supporting bush in this fashion it aint helping his cause or votes. you just swayed me to the kerry side. nice job! --mike . . ======== ========= re cb antenna from jlrice1655@earthlink.net jerry tbone wrote hahahaha yea right. that bs is getting old and as we can see the french germans and russians were correct and our pinheaded president was as usual w r o n g !!! no he was not wrong and you know it. he done exactly what kerry and his fellow democrats gave him permission to do . kerry got the same information bush did and publicly stated there were wmd so if bush was wrong then so was kerry. only reason it is getting old is because it is the truth something you seem to want to avoid. ive got 14 medals with three silver and two bronze campaign stars. no purple hearts though. either i was very lucky or as mac says was good at zigging and zagging. now how many do you have bottom line is i know what im talking about unlike yourself that merely runs his mouth constantly with no experience to back it up. ive never said bush was the best only that he is the best available choice at the present. personally i would rather see zell miller democrat georgia or joe liberman democrat connecticut on the ticket as i would vote for either but since they arent then the clear choice for me is the guy that will honestly do good for the country and that isnt kerry. now before you continue to call people constant in their ignorance how about getting you own shit together asshole. oh the answer to your question as why dont they have a dozen medals guys in this group............. probable because cuts and bruises were a daily thing to them and they didnt run to their commanding officer demanding a purple heart like kerry. btw the doctor the one that actually treated kerry for one of his supposed wounds is on the now say it is bs. truth is tbone i really dont give a crap about kerrys viet nam service but i find it very strange that the very war he condemned and called american servicemen rapist and baby killers is now the base of his campaign while at the same time he is trying to make iraq the new viet nam. think it has to do with the fact he has no other record to stand on.......... no bush isnt the coward. kerry is the fucking coward and you just may learn that the hard way. see you at the polls................. jerry ============ ============ well put..... ditto... heres a thought for t-bone to ponder.... my..our country was invaded bombed terrorized .... my..our president sent a message to the entire world..... dont f @ # k with us!!!! how he did it....i dont give a damn. he did it. i know....or i would like to have a firm feeling of belief that any terrorist plans to follow up on the actions of september 112003......were at least diverted for awhile. giving this country time to gear up. so he lied.....who gives a damn. would he have had populer support if he had come out up front and said... i want to go get this lunatic ...because hes part of the problem in the world today and i dont want to even take the chance that he may become a bigger one besides...hes killing innocent people i believe he could have gained the support for iraq however it would have taken years. the man was smart enough to take advantage of popular feeling of the day to get a job done that desperatly needed doing. now...t-bone can you feel confident that kerry would have had the same actions. i mean.... can you say positively that kerry would have sent such a strong message to the world so damn fast like others in here im not saying bush is the best man for the job. but hell get my vote for no other reason than the fact that i know....he took action instead of jumping in his boat and hauling ass in the opposite direction. and like others i would vote for a better individual. but....audy murphy aint available for the job so im going with the guy thats proven hes got the balls to stand up for what the world percieves as the mightiest country.....which today is likely the only reason were not getting bombed and blasted on a daily basis. respectfully submitted for debate marshmonster .

From : tom lawrence

that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling http//www.firestik.com/catalog/mk-174.htm .

From : montanajeeper

thanks for all the tips suggestions and links. id really like a solution however that requires no drilling at all. the though of touching this truck with a drill bit is comparable to touching a chalk board with a finger nail. perhaps that will pass eventually. .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net i mickey moused mine and it works great.. got pics thanks .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from dynosaur dynosaur@removewolfplayer.us a soft plastic pad under the antenna where do you find such a pad thanks .

From : nosey

montanajeeper wrote id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks check out http//www.firestik.com/catalog/ss-184.htm i have one of these on my 99. it mounts on the fender and protrudes out from under the hood. i mounted mine on the drivers side under the body bolt closest to the door hinge and drilled three holes just to keep it secure. if i were to take it off i would only have to install the screws back into the holes after the mount was removed. you cannot see any of these screws with the hood closed. i used the screw on coax connector and it is very close to the fender. if you mount it as far outboard as possible and bend the coax a bit it doesnt hit the fender but the crimp on connector would be a better choice. i can e-mail a picture of it installed on my truck if you want me to. .

From : dynosaurdynosaur

thanks much. no one had atf 4+ around here except the dealer so i got a bunch of atf 3+ and got ultra black for diff and gray for the transmission pan. got new plugs wires cap and rotor button too. need the wifes wheels in tip top condition ; ben have a manual for this durango and was wondering what differential lube is best plain old non-synthetic 80w90 gl-5 gear oil of any name brand will be fine. you can go synthetic if you want... it wont do much but it wont hurt either. and whether it needs 1 or 2 bottles of friction modifier. typically 3 oz. per quart of gear oil. most bottles are 4oz. so 1.5 bottles i also need to know what type of lube goes in the transfer case. atf - either atf+3 or dexron transfer cases arent picky. transmissions are another story - never use dexron in your transmission - always atf+3 or atf+4 more $$$. keep it simple - use +3 in both. also what is the best type of sealant to use on the axle cover plain old rtv. i prefer permatex ultra black so that when i make a mess with it and it its not as noticeable. no gasket just sealant nope - no gasket. .

From : mac davis

on 27 jul 2004 040637 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks hey nate... i mickey moused mine and it works great.. i tried a hood bolt mount built for the ram and hated it... the thing always got in line of sight and bothered me.. i made a mount from a pipe step-down adapter that screws into the bolt holding the bed down... on my 99 ram its under the rubber drain plug that says remove or what ever.. i use a 6 foot whip mounted to a 90 degree elbow of the 3/8 pipe nipple coming out of the adapter so i can fold it down for trees parking garages etc... great reception and its close enough to the back of the cab i use a tennis ball to keep it quiet to keep it out of the way ... mac .

From : jerry

dynosaur wrote your best bet will still be a wilson 1000 or k40 magnetic mount. those are 2 of the best cb antennas out there and have been for quite a few years. i prefer the wilson 1000 personally. if the roof of your vehicle is waxed properly and you have a soft plastic pad under the antenna there shouldnt be much of a mark left. i agree .................. ive had a wilson 1000 on the roof of my truck for 5 years now and there is no sign of a ring what so ever. next to a full length whip the wilson is probable the best. the firestiks are good antennas but they are thick heavy and catch a lot of wind. personally i would go with a wilson or a full whip mounted on the corner of the rear bumper. jerry .

From : Annonymous

mac.davis@comcast.net writes hey nate... i mickey moused mine and it works great.. never underestimate the creative talent of a diehard cber to plant the antenna where no man has gone before.. i tried a hood bolt mount built for the ram and hated it... the thing always got in line of sight and bothered me.. i made a mount from a pipe step-down adapter that screws into the bolt holding the bed down... on my 99 ram its under the rubber drain plug that says remove or what ever.. i use a 6 foot whip mounted to a 90 degree elbow of the 3/8 pipe nipple coming out of the adapter so i can fold it down for trees parking garages etc... great reception and its close enough to the back of the cab i use a tennis ball to keep it quiet to keep it out of the way ... gotta ask is this a **truck** or a fine 53 corvette that youve just restored chrissakes man if its a truck drill a hole in it. anything else is a compromise antenna that will always be lacking the proper ground plane. whats more important to look good or to work good you usually cannot have both .

From : nosey

w5o0xq wrote get a ham radio license and quit fooling around with that stupid cb stuff. al i think by now we all understand your position on ham radios. i do not personally own a ham radio nor do i desire to own one. i may be overstepping my bounds by speaking for the group as a whole but i will anyway. the question was about cb radios. it was a specific question about cb radios. it was not intended to open a discussion about alternatives to cb radios. i get hours of enjoyment operating my cb when on road trips. i like the idea of being close in proximity of the person i am talking to. it seems to make conversation more personal. if i wanted to talk to people at long distances at random i would use my free long distance calling minutes on my cell phone dialing at random to far away places. thank you for suggesting the use of ham radios as some readers may consider this as an alternative to the topic being discussed. by the way you are a cross-posting troll. if there is not enough message traffic in your pathetic radio group to keep you entertained all you have to do is subscribe to additional groups. .

From : w5o0xq

id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. al .

From : Annonymous

jlrice1655@earthlink.net writes i agree .................. ive had a wilson 1000 on the roof of my truck for 5 years now and there is no sign of a ring what so ever. next to a full length whip the wilson is probable the best. the firestiks are good antennas but they are thick heavy and catch a lot of wind. personally i would go with a wilson or a full whip mounted on the corner of the rear bumper. the full length 108 stainless steel buggy whip actually has a high angle of radiation and therefore is not optimum for transmitting. however being the largest and a full physical quarter-wavelength it has the most capture area and is arguably among the best for receiving. the problem is that unless it is mounted in the center of a large expanse of metal it becomes somewhat directional. in best signal competition the overall winner and most efficient cb antenna for vehicular installations was the hustler center-loaded foldover from new-tronics. the center loading coil is also rated at 2-kw. you want the mo-2 base and for power levels under 400 watts get the rm-11 resonator. for high power applications get the rm-11-s resonator. see it here http//www.new-tronics.com/main/html/mobilehfandscbmodels.html best part made in the usa. -- help support satellite radio! your local radio broadcasters through their powerful nab lobbyiests are currently pushing a bill through congress that if passed would block the satellite radio services from carrying local content traffic & weather please call your elected representatives at 202 225-3121 and urge them to oppose hr 4026. we need your help please. http//www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp .

From : jerry

w5o0xq wrote why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. sure thing ................ go down and pay money to take a test from some local clown who demands you know how to build a radio or antenna from scratch and learn a form of communication that went down with the titanic. hell even the military gave up that form of communication years ago but not the hams. make the test meaningful charge a $1000 for the license with strict enforcement of rules and id pay in a minute and dont give me this crap about a no code because it is a useless freq. and you know it. charge $1.00 in the manner it is set up now and you know what you can do with it. no .......... its not the cber that is stupid one but the idiot hams that think the world revolves around their shrinking little hobby. jerry .

From : jeff mayner

montanajeeper wrote id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks you need to figure out how much of a trade-off you will be happy with. good rx/tx or no damage. a wilson magnet mount is a good trade off centered on your roof. ive had one on my 97 f150 for several years. keeping the area under the antenna clean and waxed has kept the finish fine. mounting anywhere else will effect how your ears perform. anywhere other than the middle of the roof will be directional. if youre just using it to commute and talk with truckers and other drivers for travel info and traffic reports just get a cheaper magnet mount and remove it whenever you arent using the radio. if you want to talk loud and proud have a good shop install a 102 whip to the lip of the box behind the rear window and ground it really well. the coax is then run in through one of many possible points on the back or under the cab. several ways to do it that work well and wont put too many holes in the truck. get youself a decent kicker 100 watts or so and youll get out fine. keep in mind that amplifiers are frowned on by the fcc and theyll take it if they find it. jeff .

From : edward dowdy

its so nice to have people promoting ham radio. and the with the gracious way you project it al well be overrun with new applicants. week after i got my new 2002 quad cab 4x4 i was drilling holes in it for antennas. ive been a ham for 30 years off and on. i even own 3 cb radios. i have to admit i dont have any antennas up for them cbs now. i didnt buy the truck not to drill holes in it. 73 ed ka9ees that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. al .

From : transurgeon

buckaroo boy 445 operates a linear out of gastonia nc in his 18 wheeler. seems whenever he operates freeband above 28000 khz the local hambos throw tantrums. must not take much get a burr under those hambos saddles. yes illegal operation has that effect .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from ramman@dodgecity.cc chrissakes man if its a truck drill a hole in it. my 96 f350 http//www.imageark.net/0001/3rpkiu.jpg is a truck used in typical truck type duties and i wouldnt hesitate to drill it. the new dodge wont be demoted to truck status for some time. for now its a cowboy limo. - whats more important to look good or to work good im not ready to accept that as my only option. its not about looking good anyway. i just dont want to drill holes in a truck with 127 miles on the clock. .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from w5o0xq why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. if stranded in a montana blizzard the concept of calling for help from someone 2 miles from me is much more appealing than speaking with somone in china. out here you dont always have cell service available but theres always someone on the other end of your cb. .

From : Annonymous

montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper writes im not ready to accept that as my only option. its not about looking good anyway. i just dont want to drill holes in a truck with 127 miles on the clock. back in the days when i worked at a motorola 2-way shop wed drill big antenna holes in customer vehicles that had only 20 miles on the clock. if you want the radio to work it takes a hole to make it so.. -- help support satellite radio! your local radio broadcasters through their powerful nab lobbyiests are currently pushing a bill through congress that if passed would block the satellite radio services from carrying local content traffic & weather please call your elected representatives at 202 225-3121 and urge them to oppose hr 4026. we need your help please. http//www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp .

From : robert casey

why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. nice... anyway he cant be that stupid if he knows enough to ask the above questions. cb aint that bad a thing to begin with anyway. .

From : jj

w5o0xq wrote id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. al boy i am sure that encouraging comment will make him want to run right out and become a ham. what kind of call is w5o0xo it isnt a ham call. i would say maybe you need to get your ham license but if you make those kind of comments then ham radio can certainly do without you. .

From : mac davis

on tue 27 jul 2004 140402 -0400 w5o0xq al@dagroupmeter.net wrote why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. al please dont feed the trolls mac .

From : mac davis

on 27 jul 2004 201757 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote subject re cb antenna from mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net i mickey moused mine and it works great.. got pics thanks no but i can take a few.. lol oh sh*t! no i cant..... the truck went to the dealer last night ill take a few when i get it back nate.. mac .

From : jay smith

come into the 21 century and get a nextel if want a two-way radio. if need to know about traffic use your am radio every big city out there has a 24-7 am station with traffic reports. need directions use a laptop with a g.p.s. receiver. if you want to talk with the truckers good luck this trucker hasn t had a cb in his cab for the past 3 yrs. buckaroo boy 445 operates a linear out of gastonia nc in his 18 wheeler. seems whenever he operates freeband above 28000 khz the local hambos throw tantrums. must not take much get a burr under those hambos saddles. yes illegal operation has that effect .

From : jeff mayner

w5o0xq wrote you need to get a ham radio license and quit fooling with that stupid cb stuff. ya think are you one of those ham snobs i keep hearing about lol... jeff al jlrice1655@earthlink.net writes i agree .................. ive had a wilson 1000 on the roof of my truck for 5 years now and there is no sign of a ring what so ever. next to a full length whip the wilson is probable the best. the firestiks are good antennas but they are thick heavy and catch a lot of wind. personally i would go with a wilson or a full whip mounted on the corner of the rear bumper. the full length 108 stainless steel buggy whip actually has a high angle of radiation and therefore is not optimum for transmitting. however being the largest and a full physical quarter-wavelength it has the most capture area and is arguably among the best for receiving. the problem is that unless it is mounted in the center of a large expanse of metal it becomes somewhat directional. in best signal competition the overall winner and most efficient cb antenna for vehicular installations was the hustler center-loaded foldover from new-tronics. the center loading coil is also rated at 2-kw. you want the mo-2 base and for power levels under 400 watts get the rm-11 resonator. for high power applications get the rm-11-s resonator. see it here http//www.new-tronics.com/main/html/mobilehfandscbmodels.html best part made in the usa. -- help support satellite radio! your local radio broadcasters through their powerful nab lobbyiests are currently pushing a bill through congress that if passed would block the satellite radio services from carrying local content traffic & weather please call your elected representatives at 202 225-3121 and urge them to oppose hr 4026. we need your help please. http//www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp .

From : jeff mayner

jay smith wrote come into the 21 century and get a nextel if want a two-way radio. if need to know about traffic use your am radio every big city out there has a 24-7 am station with traffic reports. need directions use a laptop with a g.p.s. receiver. if you want to talk with the truckers good luck this trucker hasn t had a cb in his cab for the past 3 yrs. no shit on that. most truckers i know and i do know a few are listening to their sirius radios and dont have time for their cbs any longer. ;- jeff buckaroo boy 445 operates a linear out of gastonia nc in his 18 wheeler. seems whenever he operates freeband above 28000 khz the local hambos throw tantrums. must not take much get a burr under those hambos saddles. yes illegal operation has that effect .

From : mac davis

on 27 jul 2004 201716 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote thanks for all the tips suggestions and links. id really like a solution however that requires no drilling at all. the though of touching this truck with a drill bit is comparable to touching a chalk board with a finger nail. perhaps that will pass eventually. the way i went is pretty harmless nate... the bed mounting bolt already is accessible as a stud under the rubber access cover.. its obviously grounded and is a good stable mount.. btw.. the higher the better and my full length whip mounted a few inches above the bed is higher than my firestick on the hood mount was.. mac .

From : mac davis

on tue 27 jul 2004 124558 -0500 ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote chrissakes man if its a truck drill a hole in it. anything else is a compromise antenna that will always be lacking the proper ground plane. whats more important to look good or to work good you usually cannot have both in this case appearance is the priority... we bought the used ram as a stop gap kinda thing when we bought the trailer... didnt want to tear up the dakota towing but couldnt afford a ctd yet... were trying to keep the truck in a re-sellable condition while shopping for the real tow vehicle next year.. mac .

From : todd riegel

who cares if you get a ring on the roof anyway. im 6 tall and need a ladder to see the top of my roof 03 qc laramie 4x4. no one is going to get a ladder to look at the roof when inspecting a vehicle prior to purchasing. jay smith wrote come into the 21 century and get a nextel if want a two-way radio. if need to know about traffic use your am radio every big city out there has a 24-7 am station with traffic reports. need directions use a laptop with a g.p.s. receiver. if you want to talk with the truckers good luck this trucker hasn t had a cb in his cab for the past 3 yrs. no shit on that. most truckers i know and i do know a few are listening to their sirius radios and dont have time for their cbs any longer. ;- jeff buckaroo boy 445 operates a linear out of gastonia nc in his 18 wheeler. seems whenever he operates freeband above 28000 khz the local hambos throw tantrums. must not take much get a burr under those hambos saddles. yes illegal operation has that effect .

From : bryan swadener

you are preaching to the choir. i hold both amateur & commercial licenses which commercial g first phone since 1970 back when there was a real exam......... first phone since 1964. first radiotelegraph since same year. kudos to bobby & transsurgeon. me 2nd phone since 1975 amateur advanced since 73. bryan .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from todd riegel who cares if you get a ring on the roof anyway. i would. im not concerned about resale value as this truck is a keeper. i just dont want a ring on my roof. .

From : Annonymous

bobby@kkelectsites.org writes several hf frequencies are used by coast-to-coast truckers. most popular cross country chit-chat frequencies are found in the 6 8 & 14 mhz ranges. in the freeband range 28120 khz is but one popular frequency. there are several others. cross country truckers prefer freeband channels above 28 mhz as they are less congested. hf is also a convenient way to stay in constant touch with moma back home too. the hf radio at home and in the truck are left on 24/7. kitchen radio frequencies can be found above 28 mhz and also in the 6 mhz band. without feeding the trolls this is exactly the kind of scofflaw behavior that infuriates the ham radio licensees the very people to whom several of these frequencies are authorized. imagine too how the hams must feel. they have studied and put forth an honest effort to pass licensing exams only to have their lawfully authorized privileges literally stolen from them and their frequency bands encroached upon by a bunch of renegades. if the democrats win back the white house in november sodapop and the gang can look forward to the fcc getting some long-awaited funding to resume stepped-up enforcement. how soon they forget the nationwide truck stop stings conducted back in the late 70s and 80s aimed at corralling the illegal amplifier trade. dunno how many otr drivers got caught but a good many shops had their merchandise seized and got hit with some hefty fines. history always has a way of repeating itself. -- in this world if you do not say a thing in an irritating way you may just as well not say it at all because people will not trouble themselves about that which does not trouble them. -- george bernard shaw .

From : jj

k & k electronics wrote several hf frequencies are used by coast-to-coast truckers. most popular cross country chit-chat frequencies are found in the 6 8 & 14 mhz ranges. in the freeband range 28120 khz is but one popular frequency. there are several others. cross country truckers prefer freeband channels above 28 mhz as they are less congested. hf is also a convenient way to stay in constant touch with moma back home too. the hf radio at home and in the truck are left on 24/7. kitchen radio frequencies can be found above 28 mhz and also in the 6 mhz band. bobby there arent any so called freeband channels. all those frequencies outside the legal 40 cb channels are allocated to other licensed services even if you dont hear anyone using them they are still allocated. the frequencies between 28.0 mhz to 29.7 mhz are allocated to the amateur ham radio service 10 meter band and requires an amateur radio license to transmit on those frequencies. and yes the hams get upset and rightfully so when unlicensed radio operators encroach on the ham bands. the hams took tests to obtain their license and earned the priviledge to operate on those frequencies and do not welcome unlicensed operators who interfere. .

From : Annonymous

bobby@kkelectsites.org writes you are preaching to the choir. i hold both amateur & commercial licenses and a military permit i wont mention here as well as being an industry professional for many years. my reference to freeband was intended as such from the perspective of how a long-haul trucker refers to these frequencies. ergo as far as a long-haul trucker is concerned there is such a thing as freeband. when you go slumming in the trailer park it is very helpful to be able to speak the language of the trailer park if you catch my drift ask any street cop. moreover fcc jurisdiction ceases where u.s. sovereignty ceases. the fcc does not have omnipotent worldwide jurisdiction. depending on many factors certain operations which u.s. amateurs mistakenly perceive as unlicensed radio operation may in fact be quite legal in another countrys jurisdiction. childish statements by u.s. amateurs like ill throw a 500 watt carrier on anyone transmitting freeband in the ham bands is going to land the perpetrator on riley hollingsworths short list. corner riley at a hamfest and ask him. i did and he gave me an ear full of info and advice. dropping 1/2 kw carriers on illegal operators only calls attention to you and no one else. it accomplishes nothing. the best defense is a strong offense. monitor monitor and monitor. keep written logs. if you want to help keep listening and help develop bootlegger profiles. one of the most helpful profiles is the activity profile i.e. what times of the day/night are they habitually on destination profiles anything that can eventually lead to their identity or location or trip schedules routes employer etc. illegal operations have no right or expectation of privacy therefore feel completely free to record them. next year if teresa heinz-kerry can keep her elitist mouth shut long enough for her husband to get elected funding will be forthcoming and enforcement will get stepped up. soon therell be some trucker good buddies with long faces big fines and forfeited equipment. when writing complaint letters to the fcc with your gathered evidence be sure to write to your nearest u.s. attorneys office and share your information with them as well. quite often the u.s. marshals service will be only too happy to step in when the violations concern elements of the united states criminal code. remember the fcc only has jurisdiction over the licensed services. everything else can be found buried in 47cfrc5 and becomes the purview of the u.s. marshals service. the violations are federal and these guys love their job. -- hooked on ebonics lesson 1 use the word forclose in a sentence. forclose if i pay alimony dis mont i gots no money forclose. .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from jay smith jaysmith@insightbb.com come into the 21 century and get a nextel if want a two-way radio. i dont think you understand the intended purpose. im not putting in the radio for casual chit chat when im bored. the sole purpose of this radio would be to call for help should i find myself stranded beyond cell phone range in a montana blizzard. when calling for help its best to use a medium shared by others around you and out here cbs are as common probably more-so as cell phones. .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from ramman@dodgecity.cc if the democrats win back the white house in november sodapop and the gang can look forward to the fcc getting some long-awaited funding to resume stepped-up enforcement. .......were involved in a war on terror with muslim extremists who wish to kill us and our children and the democrats would put money that should be spent fighting them into chasing amateur radio operators. seems in keeping with their agenda. .

From : mgg

you had no intentions of voting for bush and you proved that with your post 2 days ago. not true jerry. i voted for gwb in 2000 even with an unproven track record...most pres candidates do since theyve never been pres. my post a couple of days ago was simple...show me what hes done since we gave him the job from where im sittin...thats nothing he takes month long vacations and works 9-5...thats about it. i work 6 to 6 and never get more than a long weekend....that makes me feel all gushy about george w. that 300 bucks i got a couple of years ago sure was alot of fun...300 bucks dont go as far as it used to but the end result is that our economy is still in the crapper and if i hadda pay another 300 bucks that year my end result is the same. i sure didnt buy a new car with it. lastly our president needs to have a grasp of the english language dont ya think if he says nucular one more time im gonna jump in front of a train. were the laughing stock of the world because of that moron. --mike mgg wrote ...and with narrow mided nut jobs like you guys supporting bush in this fashion it aint helping his cause or votes. you just swayed me to the kerry side. nice job! oh bullshit. you had no intentions of voting for bush and you proved that with your post 2 days ago. jerry .

From : jerry

mgg wrote you had no intentions of voting for bush and you proved that with your post 2 days ago. not true jerry. i voted for gwb in 2000 even with an unproven track record...most pres candidates do since theyve never been pres. my post a couple of days ago was simple...show me what hes done since we gave him the job from where im sittin...thats nothing he takes month long vacations and works 9-5...thats about it. i work 6 to 6 and never get more than a long weekend....that makes me feel all gushy about george w. that 300 bucks i got a couple of years ago sure was alot of fun...300 bucks dont go as far as it used to but the end result is that our economy is still in the crapper and if i hadda pay another 300 bucks that year my end result is the same. i sure didnt buy a new car with it. lastly our president needs to have a grasp of the english language dont ya think if he says nucular one more time im gonna jump in front of a train. were the laughing stock of the world because of that moron. im sorry to tell you this but everything you just said is so simple minded it is unbelievable. not only that but whether you realize it or not and i think you do but it is right down the left wing party line rhetoric. btw better go down and check the train schedules as youre going need one. also stay out of texas oklahoma and arkansas as everyone talks that way there. should you be dumb enough to go down there and tell them they are morons because of the way they speak let me know because i really do want to watch. jerry .

From : grumman581

brianh wrote ... only the pan handle witch people in texas dont like because it is too close to oklahoma. that plus the fact that it gets cold up there... the weather in amarillo is *nothing* like houston in the winter... .

From : tbone

on 10 aug 2004 153228 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote how dumb can you get. dumbness ie stupidity know no bounds for da boner. he manages to set new standards most every day i see no answers from tboned itb only questions. if kerry is so feakin great then lets hear why you think so. other than doing what thousands upon thousands of young men did 30+ years ago whats he done since you seem to be missing the point like many others. what did reagan accomplish prior to taking over from the carter disaster sure he was governor of ca and president of the actord guild for a while but what amazing accomplishments did he make to unseat a current president. the obviously you have forgotten the carter legacy......18 % interest rates + 10+% unemployment i am aware of such and actually mentioned it with my term carter disaster but that doesnt answer the question. yes it does lol wrong. reagan proposed an alternative to the carter disaster and the american voters elected him that was an accomplishment it was only an accomplishment if you can define it as that because he was elected iow more right wing spin. reagan got tax cuts passed which spurred investment in industry which created jobs which brought in more tax dollars than if the old tax rates had remained in place yes because he reversed an economic downturn and created job growth. but this is a different world now and with the added corruption corporate outsourcing terrorist threats and war it will take much more than just some tax cuts that favor the wealthy to turn things around and just a look at the stock market proves that. heres a bit of data for you the top 50% of wage earners pay 96.03 % of all taxes heres another bit of data for ya the top 5 % of the population have 90% of the money. the reason that the top 50% of the wage earners pay 96% of the taxes is because of how little the bottom 50% make. thanks for making another point for me. so stop with the class-envy bull-shit about tax cuts for the wealthy because those who pay more deserve more of a cut lol bullshit. they pay more becuae they have all of the money and since they reap the most benefit from this society they should pay more for it. when you buy a luxury car you pay a luxury price when you live a luxury lifestyle you should pay accordingly. this is the way of the free market. byw moron we are both in that top 50%. i havent seen any terrorist attacks in this country since gwb took out saddams sorry ass saddam had nothing to do with the attack so that has no meaning. tell this to the 1000 families that lost one of their own. the fact is our lives are forever changed and i see that as more a failure than a success. i repeat there have been no terrorist attacks on us soil since saddam got taken out so what and how many attacks were there before he was taken out - 2. and how far apart were they after the first one there should not have been a second but it happened anyway and on bushs watch. btw neither one had anything to do with saddam so it is still an invalid point and nothing more than right wing spin. is kerry the best man for the job i dont know but i do know that bush is not and kerry does have some good ideas. yeah faking injuries for purple hearts and claiming that nixon sent me to cambodia in december 1968 who was president then funny but i only heard about the possible faking of injuries for just one of them. funny how this octor can so clearly remember this minor incident from so long ago suddenly now just when kerry is running for president. btw is this man a republican or a democrate. the cambodia issue looks more like an attack on words then anything else. in is sometimes used as an exaguration for near when a point is trying to be made and how do you know that nixon didnt give such an order. iirc he was vice president at the time. http//www.swiftvets.com/ has the details read it if you have the balls to see your hero unmasked for the lying coward that he is.......... yawn just more right wing crap. at least he was not a deserter like our current president. okay so he asked for one thing bush has done to help the country he quashed billybob clit-ons blatant enviroweenie land grab which billybob crammed through right at the end of his term. this may not matter much to a rube from nc but to us westerners it means a lot. rube from nc lol. iow you are saying that bushs reversal on protection for the environment is a good thing no he is saying that the federal land-grab that bent-willie rammed thru was bad i am aware of that but he also removed restrictions on coal fired power plants in the mid west that are known to be heavy polluters. is there a link that you are aware of that talks about this land-grab i am curious as t

From : brianh

pot meet kettle im from texas and dont talk like that. do you really believe everyone does even those that do have accents dont say nucular. i know staunch republicans that admit they think bush is an idiot. i havent seen anything to convince me otherwise. in my opinion and that is all it is anyone who would want to be president is an idiot. anyone who votes straight party tickets is an idiot. and more importantly anyone posting political talk in a group for trucks with a subject indicating cb antenna is an idiot. yes myself included. jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote im sorry to tell you this but everything you just said is so simple minded it is unbelievable. not only that but whether you realize it or not and i think you do but it is right down the left wing party line rhetoric. btw better go down and check the train schedules as youre going need one. also stay out of texas oklahoma and arkansas as everyone talks that way there. should you be dumb enough to go down there and tell them they are morons because of the way they speak let me know because i really do want to watch. jerry .

From : mgg

ok im simple minded and this simple minded moron is voting for kerry. i gave george w a shot and he let me down...pure and simple. im happy for you that in your case he did not. i still havent heard what hes done that deserves being re-elected to the highest office in the country if not the world all i hear is attacks on us liberals and kerry. not once has anyone really stuck up for george w....ill say it again because you cant. nucular nucular nucular...wheres that train schedule...i dont care what southerners say the prez oughta speak correctly. --mike mgg wrote you had no intentions of voting for bush and you proved that with your post 2 days ago. not true jerry. i voted for gwb in 2000 even with an unproven track record...most pres candidates do since theyve never been pres. my post a couple of days ago was simple...show me what hes done since we gave him the job from where im sittin...thats nothing he takes month long vacations and works 9-5...thats about it. i work 6 to 6 and never get more than a long weekend....that makes me feel all gushy about george w. that 300 bucks i got a couple of years ago sure was alot of fun...300 bucks dont go as far as it used to but the end result is that our economy is still in the crapper and if i hadda pay another 300 bucks that year my end result is the same. i sure didnt buy a new car with it. lastly our president needs to have a grasp of the english language dont ya think if he says nucular one more time im gonna jump in front of a train. were the laughing stock of the world because of that moron. im sorry to tell you this but everything you just said is so simple minded it is unbelievable. not only that but whether you realize it or not and i think you do but it is right down the left wing party line rhetoric. btw better go down and check the train schedules as youre going need one. also stay out of texas oklahoma and arkansas as everyone talks that way there. should you be dumb enough to go down there and tell them they are morons because of the way they speak let me know because i really do want to watch. jerry .

From : mgg

and more importantly anyone posting political talk in a group for trucks with a subject indicating cb antenna is an idiot. amen! i couldnt agree more. --mike pot meet kettle im from texas and dont talk like that. do you really believe everyone does even those that do have accents dont say nucular. i know staunch republicans that admit they think bush is an idiot. i havent seen anything to convince me otherwise. in my opinion and that is all it is anyone who would want to be president is an idiot. anyone who votes straight party tickets is an idiot. and more importantly anyone posting political talk in a group for trucks with a subject indicating cb antenna is an idiot. yes myself included. jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote im sorry to tell you this but everything you just said is so simple minded it is unbelievable. not only that but whether you realize it or not and i think you do but it is right down the left wing party line rhetoric. btw better go down and check the train schedules as youre going need one. also stay out of texas oklahoma and arkansas as everyone talks that way there. should you be dumb enough to go down there and tell them they are morons because of the way they speak let me know because i really do want to watch. jerry .

From : jerry

brianh wrote pot meet kettle im from texas and dont talk like that. do you really believe everyone does even those that do have accents dont say nucular. feed it to someone else ............... i live next door and have a bunch of relatives down there so i know better. besides texans are nothing more than okies on their way to california who ran out of gas....... btw i know democrats that think kerry is a freaking idiot so what is the point jerry .

From : brianh

i didnt expect you to get the point. i was writing for the benefit of others. see jerry turns out you are as simple as you claimed the other person to be. that was the point again thanks for helping prove it. most people live in a state due to the accident of birth others move in and out at will a byproduct of a free society. to say all people living in texas talk like your relatives means you live in a small world and most likely navigate through it with a small mind. bunch of relatives down there so i know better. besides texans are nothing more than okies on their way to california who ran out of gas....... by the way get a map ya the paper with the pretty colors im sure youve seen one when you grad-i-ated the 8th grade. now locate oklahoma the one in the middle with the pan handle right above the big one with a pan handle. now draw a line to california it is on the left ..... the other left .... alot of blue next to it. did you pass through texas only the pan handle witch people in texas dont like because it is too close to oklahoma. yall come back now yahear. brianh wrote pot meet kettle im from texas and dont talk like that. do you really believe everyone does even those that do have accents dont say nucular. feed it to someone else ............... i live next door and have a bunch of relatives down there so i know better. besides texans are nothing more than okies on their way to california who ran out of gas....... btw i know democrats that think kerry is a freaking idiot so what is the point jerry .

From : grumman581

what ive noticed with regards to texas and a lot of other places is that the large metropolitan areas do not tend to have the degree of accent that some of the more rural areas might have... i met a paramedic who was a 3rd generation korean-american in alvin tx once who had a definite good-ole-boy texas accent... it was really weird -- heres this korean face and this perfect good-ole-boy texas accent is coming from it... i felt like i was watching a movie and was expecting the subtitles to come scrolling across the bottom of the screen... the metropolitan areas tend to mix a lot of people from different parts of the country and i suspect that it helps mellow out the accent somewhat... after i got out of the navy and came back home i noticed a definite accent in the people there... it was an area with around 250k people but i sure was able to notice their accent after having been away from it for so long... my accent pretty much disappeared also thanks to living in so many places around the country and being around so many different people from other parts of the country... .

From : roy

grumman-581 wrote what ive noticed with regards to texas and a lot of other places is that the large metropolitan areas do not tend to have the degree of accent that some of the more rural areas might have... thats pretty much true everywhere. except maybe for massachusetts ....... i have a hell of a time understanding anyone when im up in that part of the country. course they seem not to understand me either. jerry we dont have accents here in ma you folks just have hearing problems. g roy .

From : jerry

brianh wrote bunch of relatives down there so i know better. besides texans are nothing more than okies on their way to california who ran out of gas....... by the way get a map ya the paper with the pretty colors im sure youve seen one when you grad-i-ated the 8th grade. now locate oklahoma the one in the middle with the pan handle right above the big one with a pan handle. now draw a line to california it is on the left ..... the other left .... alot of blue next to it. did you pass through texas only the pan handle witch people in texas dont like because it is too close to oklahoma. yall come back now yahear. you fucking idiot ............... its a joke dumb ass. .

From : jerry

brianh wrote i didnt expect you to get the point. i was writing for the benefit of others. see jerry turns out you are as simple as you claimed the other person to be. that was the point again thanks for helping prove it. most people live in a state due to the accident of birth others move in and out at will a byproduct of a free society. to say all people living in texas talk like your relatives means you live in a small world and most likely navigate through it with a small mind. do you have any clue to what you are blabbering here i hope so because i damn sure dont. in the first place i said i had relatives living there never said they were from texas nor did i say they talked like texans. what does where someone is born have to do with anything unless you are defending something which you say your are not im old enough to remember president johnson who sounded far worse then bush. actually he sounded a little like you disoriented and lost in his own mind. i guess i could have said since shit rolls down hill everything oklahoma flushes rolls into texas. would that have made you feel better. i know one thing for sure navigating through your mind would be a straight shot with no curves involved. talk about simple minded...... .

From : brianh

the proper word here is youre meaning a contraction of you are. and when i write formally i catch that. a few posts back i used witch instead of which. i guess i write phonetically. like i said im an idiot trailer trash while common in this part of texas no. i dont even own a cb in the past i have only to keep an eye out for police while speeding. now that im older i dont speed as much. also when i see a truck that passed me going the speed limit i slow down as there is usually a reason. note i didnt use their can i be excited i know what cb means my grandfather was a ham radio operator w7ioe so i had a leg up. i remember days in his shack as he would gripe about average joes and their cb radios. just as you folks gripe about the mis-use of -groups and the english language. - ive been misusing groups since before the internet and usenet i used to dial-in to the local bbs groups with my 1200 baud modem. those were the days. i used to work as a computer technician for a large bank and a coworker termed this type of banter as cyber-balls people on groups and email say things to each other they never would in face to face conversation. i find this ironic spawned such an infantile pissing match and barrage of personal attacks. you people epitomize the very element of trailer trash that comprise much of citizens band radio! yet another instance of pot calling the kettle black. and right after your note on wisdom you almost had me there for a minute. nope@tomuchspam.com writes jerry - thanks for proving my point again. facts about me i live in texas i am not a texan i dont have a texas accent i didnt vote for bush nor will i. ditto ditto ditto and ditto.. but im not convinced kerry is the right man either things i can deduce from your comments you worship bush most likely cuz your dad does your an idiot the proper word here is youre meaning a contraction of you are. you are easily provoked. keep an eye on the bp when you get old enough to sit at the big table the older each one of us get the wiser we each become. as we gain this wisdom it troubles us to see others and witness the actions of others who have not yet acquired this wisdom. personally i find it altogether appropriate if not laughable that this specific thread has spawned such an infantile pissing match and barrage of personal attacks. you people epitomize the very element of trailer trash that comprise much of citizens band radio! just look around at all of the enlightened faces that just now in my prior sentence learned for the first time in their life that cb stands for citizens band. i rest my case. .

From : roy

roy wrote thats pretty much true everywhere. except maybe for massachusetts ....... i have a hell of a time understanding anyone when im up in that part of the country. course they seem not to understand me either. jerry we dont have accents here in ma you folks just have hearing problems. g roy walked into a cafe in quincy ma one time and ask for a cup of coffee. the waitress said something i didnt understand but i did get the part where she was asking me if i wanted regular coffee which i said yes and assumed as in most places it meant black coffee which was what i wanted. got a cup of coffee that was half filled with cream then filled the rest of the way with coffee. sorry roy but yall not only talk funny but act funny. jerry nah we just have a wider selection of coffee. regular coffee is cream and sugar. black coffee is no cream no sugar. sorta like sandwiches we dont have heros other than my idiot nor hoagies or grinders. we have submarine sandwiches. hell in ri guess what ya get when you ask for a cabinet . wtf were ya doin in quincy on a ship roy .

From : jerry

brianh wrote jerry - thanks for proving my point again. facts about me i live in texas sorry to hear that but not much any of us can do for you i am not a texan then why are you complaining i dont have a texas accent neither do i but im not from texas either........... you do realize of course that you just admitted that texans have a accent dont you. care to try for another point that is less demanding of you i didnt vote for bush nor will i. thats your choice.... not sure anyone will get less sleep over it though. things i can deduce from your comments you worship bush most likely cuz your dad does no just consider him the best of two choices ......... and my dad was a registered democrat but since he is dead does does not work now does it..... your an idiot nothing surprising here since most texans consider everyone a idiot except themselves. just shows what a true moron you are. you are easily provoked. sometimes but mostly cause by morons from texas..... keep an eye on the bp when you get old enough to sit at the big table what the hell is bp want to try a little english here mr. big texan or is using acronyms the only way you texan wannabes can communicate..... sorry but nothing you have said changes the fact that most texans talk funny most texans are full of bullshit but fortunately most texans arent as dumb as you are. btw even after drawing in your mind the fantasy picture of the route from oklahoma to california to make a point then asking a question to prove the point then again turning around and stating the answer to your own question was yes which proved your point wrong shows what a simple moron you are. now you have a nice day down there and watch out for them okies traveling through. since gas prices are so high you just may double the texas population real soon. jerry .

From : roy

mgg wrote ... nucular nucular nucular...wheres that train schedule...i dont care what southerners say the prez oughta speak correctly. and what fuck makes you think that someone from ma speaks correctly i voted for bush and will vote for him again... if for no other reason than the fact that he signed the chl law that ann richards had repeatedly vetoed... kerry and his left-wing democrat / socialist / communist buddies will try to take our 2nd amendment rights away from us... i dont agree with the entire republican platform but i figure that as long as i have my gun rights they cant do too much damage to me... but then again david koresh might have thought the same thing until billy-boy and company decided to exterminate his religion... right your elevator gets to about the second floor. you call what koresh was running a religion guns dont bother me am licensed to carry myself it is when they are in the hands of fools that i become concerned. .

From : mgg

ok this is a troll right well im not biting. wow! --mike mgg wrote ... nucular nucular nucular...wheres that train schedule...i dont care what southerners say the prez oughta speak correctly. and what fuck makes you think that someone from ma speaks correctly i voted for bush and will vote for him again... if for no other reason than the fact that he signed the chl law that ann richards had repeatedly vetoed... kerry and his left-wing democrat / socialist / communist buddies will try to take our 2nd amendment rights away from us... i dont agree with the entire republican platform but i figure that as long as i have my gun rights they cant do too much damage to me... but then again david koresh might have thought the same thing until billy-boy and company decided to exterminate his religion... .

From : jerry

grumman-581 wrote what ive noticed with regards to texas and a lot of other places is that the large metropolitan areas do not tend to have the degree of accent that some of the more rural areas might have... thats pretty much true everywhere. except maybe for massachusetts ........ i have a hell of a time understanding anyone when im up in that part of the country. course they seem not to understand me either. jerry .

From : brianh

jerry - thanks for proving my point again. facts about me i live in texas i am not a texan i dont have a texas accent i didnt vote for bush nor will i. things i can deduce from your comments you worship bush most likely cuz your dad does your an idiot you are easily provoked. keep an eye on the bp when you get old enough to sit at the big table you said earlier feed it to someone else ............... i live next door and have a bunch of relatives down there so i know better. so that would make you an expert on texas and pronunciation brianh wrote i didnt expect you to get the point. i was writing for the benefit of others. see jerry turns out you are as simple as you claimed the other person to be. that was the point again thanks for helping prove it. most people live in a state due to the accident of birth others move in and out at will a byproduct of a free society. to say all people living in texas talk like your relatives means you live in a small world and most likely navigate through it with a small mind. do you have any clue to what you are blabbering here i hope so because i damn sure dont. in the first place i said i had relatives living there never said they were from texas nor did i say they talked like texans. what does where someone is born have to do with anything unless you are defending something which you say your are not im old enough to remember president johnson who sounded far worse then bush. actually he sounded a little like you disoriented and lost in his own mind. i guess i could have said since shit rolls down hill everything oklahoma flushes rolls into texas. would that have made you feel better. i know one thing for sure navigating through your mind would be a straight shot with no curves involved. talk about simple minded...... .

From : Annonymous

nope@tomuchspam.com writes jerry - thanks for proving my point again. facts about me i live in texas i am not a texan i dont have a texas accent i didnt vote for bush nor will i. ditto ditto ditto and ditto.. but im not convinced kerry is the right man either things i can deduce from your comments you worship bush most likely cuz your dad does your an idiot the proper word here is youre meaning a contraction of you are. you are easily provoked. keep an eye on the bp when you get old enough to sit at the big table the older each one of us get the wiser we each become. as we gain this wisdom it troubles us to see others and witness the actions of others who have not yet acquired this wisdom. personally i find it altogether appropriate if not laughable that this specific thread has spawned such an infantile pissing match and barrage of personal attacks. you people epitomize the very element of trailer trash that comprise much of citizens band radio! just look around at all of the enlightened faces that just now in my prior sentence learned for the first time in their life that cb stands for citizens band. i rest my case. .

From : jerry

brianh wrote why are so many okies fleeing your state tornado wipe out all the trailers only the ones manufactured in texas ................ you do realize this could be a never-ending-story dont you jerry .

From : cbhvac

ive been misusing groups since before the internet and usenet i used to dial-in to the local bbs groups with my 1200 baud modem. those were the days. youngun... 300 baud man...and bbs groups came later... damn..wonder if my clevelandfreenet account still works...lol .

From : denny

we dont have accents here in ma you folks just have hearing problems. g roy huh denny .

From : grumman581

mgg wrote ... nucular nucular nucular...wheres that train schedule...i dont care what southerners say the prez oughta speak correctly. and what fuck makes you think that someone from ma speaks correctly i voted for bush and will vote for him again... if for no other reason than the fact that he signed the chl law that ann richards had repeatedly vetoed... kerry and his left-wing democrat / socialist / communist buddies will try to take our 2nd amendment rights away from us... i dont agree with the entire republican platform but i figure that as long as i have my gun rights they cant do too much damage to me... but then again david koresh might have thought the same thing until billy-boy and company decided to exterminate his religion... .

From : jerry

roy wrote thats pretty much true everywhere. except maybe for massachusetts ....... i have a hell of a time understanding anyone when im up in that part of the country. course they seem not to understand me either. jerry we dont have accents here in ma you folks just have hearing problems. g roy walked into a cafe in quincy ma one time and ask for a cup of coffee. the waitress said something i didnt understand but i did get the part where she was asking me if i wanted regular coffee which i said yes and assumed as in most places it meant black coffee which was what i wanted. got a cup of coffee that was half filled with cream then filled the rest of the way with coffee. sorry roy but yall not only talk funny but act funny. jerry .

From : brianh

why are so many okies fleeing your state tornado wipe out all the trailers your point wrong shows what a simple moron you are. now you have a nice day down there and watch out for them okies traveling through. since gas prices are so high you just may double the texas population real soon. jerry .

From : grumman581

roy wrote ... you call what koresh was running a religion yeah a religion... a fucked up one but still a religion... not that much more fucked up than some of the other ones out there come to think of it... religions are used to control the week minded... koresh was definitely doing that... .

From : jerry

roy wrote wtf were ya doin in quincy on a ship roy yep putting one in commission. eventually brought it around through the canal and worked our way to san diego after a brief outfitting stay in portsmouth virginia. five months after getting to san diego was transferred to desron-9 and spent the next 7 years in and out of japan. one thing about the navy they never let you sit around still very long. jerry .

From : mgg

you do realize this could be a never-ending-story dont you could be and i hope it lasts. this whole thread has to be about the best thing ive read and participated in in years! g and it all started out with the montana guy that didnt want a ring on his roof from a magnetic mount antenna i wouldnt either actually g. --mike brianh wrote why are so many okies fleeing your state tornado wipe out all the trailers only the ones manufactured in texas ................ you do realize this could be a never-ending-story dont you jerry .

From : grumman581

ooops... fumble fingers strike again... s/week/weak/g .

From : mgg

most of the rest of the thread has been a typical pissing contest with no real winners. there never is when it comes to religion or politics. i agree wholeheartedly but the diversity of the thread is whats made it so much fun! i havent heard the did ya just break up with your sister joke yet so we still have some time...g. --mike mgg wrote you do realize this could be a never-ending-story dont you could be and i hope it lasts. this whole thread has to be about the best thing ive read and participated in in years! g well actually i was taking about jokes of oklahoma and texas. most of the rest of the thread has been a typical pissing contest with no real winners. there never is when it comes to religion or politics. jerry .

From : jerry

mgg wrote you do realize this could be a never-ending-story dont you could be and i hope it lasts. this whole thread has to be about the best thing ive read and participated in in years! g well actually i was taking about jokes of oklahoma and texas. most of the rest of the thread has been a typical pissing contest with no real winners. there never is when it comes to religion or politics. jerry .

From : mgg

im with ya. 300 baud with compuserve in 1983...kinda cool bein able to read the text as it scrolled across the screen. --mike ive been misusing groups since before the internet and usenet i used to dial-in to the local bbs groups with my 1200 baud modem. those were the days. youngun... 300 baud man...and bbs groups came later... damn..wonder if my clevelandfreenet account still works...lol .

From : cbhvac

im with ya. 300 baud with compuserve in 1983...kinda cool bein able to read the text as it scrolled across the screen. --mike compuserve lol...i was thinking about q-link.... now you got me looking for that modem....i think its still boxed with the c-64.... ive been misusing groups since before the internet and usenet i used to dial-in to the local bbs groups with my 1200 baud modem. those were the days. youngun... 300 baud man...and bbs groups came later... damn..wonder if my clevelandfreenet account still works...lol .

From : brianh

timex sinclair turned it off and there went the program you typed in. then got a cassette to save programs 10 minutes to load a program that ultimately didnt do more than a calculator today. im with ya. 300 baud with compuserve in 1983...kinda cool bein able to read the text as it scrolled across the screen. --mike compuserve lol...i was thinking about q-link.... now you got me looking for that modem....i think its still boxed with the c-64.... ive been misusing groups since before the internet and usenet i used to dial-in to the local bbs groups with my 1200 baud modem. those were the days. youngun... 300 baud man...and bbs groups came later... damn..wonder if my clevelandfreenet account still works...lol .

From : cbhvac

timex sinclair turned it off and there went the program you typed in. then got a cassette to save programs 10 minutes to load a program that ultimately didnt do more than a calculator today. yup....wasnt them the days..lol... im with ya. 300 baud with compuserve in 1983...kinda cool bein able to read the text as it scrolled across the screen. --mike compuserve lol...i was thinking about q-link.... now you got me looking for that modem....i think its still boxed with the c-64.... cbhvac webmaster@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in message ive been misusing groups since before the internet and usenet i used to dial-in to the local bbs groups with my 1200 baud modem. those were the days. youngun... 300 baud man...and bbs groups came later... damn..wonder if my clevelandfreenet account still works...lol .

From : mgg

timex sinclair turned it off and there went the program you typed in. then got a cassette to save programs 10 minutes to load a program that ultimately didnt do more than a calculator today. lol! that was my first computer as well...about 1982 i think. i was soooo excited when i got the 16k memory module for the thing. g --mike timex sinclair turned it off and there went the program you typed in. then got a cassette to save programs 10 minutes to load a program that ultimately didnt do more than a calculator today. im with ya. 300 baud with compuserve in 1983...kinda cool bein able to read the text as it scrolled across the screen. --mike compuserve lol...i was thinking about q-link.... now you got me looking for that modem....i think its still boxed with the c-64.... ive been misusing groups since before the internet and usenet i used to dial-in to the local bbs groups with my 1200 baud modem. those were the days. youngun... 300 baud man...and bbs groups came later... damn..wonder if my clevelandfreenet account still works...lol .

From : grumman581

brianh wrote ... timex sinclair turned it off and there went the program you typed in. my first programs were written on punch cards... definitely improved your typing ability i.e. you couldnt erase and thus had to type the entire card again... when the timex came out i thought how advanced it seemed other than the fact that it had a useless language in it... .

From : shiting in high cotton

please dont tell me youre driving //drivelsnipped// brilliant! keep working you will earn your g.e.d. in a few more years. shcotton .

From : k k electronics

k & k electronics wrote several hf frequencies are used by coast-to-coast truckers. most popular cross country chit-chat frequencies are found in the 6 8 & 14 mhz ranges. in the freeband range 28120 khz is but one popular frequency. there are several others. cross country truckers prefer freeband channels above 28 mhz as they are less congested. hf is also a convenient way to stay in constant touch with moma back home too. the hf radio at home and in the truck are left on 24/7. kitchen radio frequencies can be found above 28 mhz and also in the 6 mhz band. bobby there arent any so called freeband channels. all those frequencies outside the legal 40 cb channels are allocated to other licensed services even if you dont hear anyone using them they are still allocated. the frequencies between 28.0 mhz to 29.7 mhz are allocated to the amateur ham radio service 10 meter band and requires an amateur radio license to transmit on those frequencies. and yes the hams get upset and rightfully so when unlicensed radio operators encroach on the ham bands. the hams took tests to obtain their license and earned the priviledge to operate on those frequencies and do not welcome unlicensed operators who interfere. you are preaching to the choir. i hold both amateur & commercial licenses and a military permit i wont mention here as well as being an industry professional for many years. my reference to freeband was intended as such from the perspective of how a long-haul trucker refers to these frequencies. ergo as far as a long-haul trucker is concerned there is such a thing as freeband. when you go slumming in the trailer park it is very helpful to be able to speak the language of the trailer park if you catch my drift ask any street cop. moreover fcc jurisdiction ceases where u.s. sovereignty ceases. the fcc does not have omnipotent worldwide jurisdiction. depending on many factors certain operations which u.s. amateurs mistakenly perceive as unlicensed radio operation may in fact be quite legal in another countrys jurisdiction. childish statements by u.s. amateurs like ill throw a 500 watt carrier on anyone transmitting freeband in the ham bands is going to land the perpetrator on riley hollingsworths short list. corner riley at a hamfest and ask him. i did and he gave me an ear full of info and advice. thank you for your support of amateur radio a family hobby bobby .

From : Annonymous

bobby@kkelectsites.org writes first phone since 1964. first radiotelegraph since same year. ditto.. bit of an ol fart myself second phone 1965 first phone 1970 broadcast endorsement amateur novice 1962 amateur general 1963 amateur advanced 1970 -- help support satellite radio! your local radio broadcasters through their powerful nab lobbyiests are currently pushing a bill through congress that if passed would block the satellite radio services from carrying local content traffic & weather please call your elected representatives at 202 225-3121 and urge them to oppose hr 4026. we need your help please. http//www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp .

From : jj

k & k electronics wrote moreover fcc jurisdiction ceases where u.s. sovereignty ceases. the fcc does not have omnipotent worldwide jurisdiction. depending on many factors certain operations which u.s. amateurs mistakenly perceive as unlicensed radio operation may in fact be quite legal in another countrys jurisdiction. childish statements by u.s. amateurs like ill throw a 500 watt carrier on anyone transmitting freeband in the ham bands is going to land the perpetrator on riley hollingsworths short list. corner riley at a hamfest and ask him. i did and he gave me an ear full of info and advice. thank you for your support of amateur radio a family hobby bobby what you say is true however it is very easy to tell when u.s. truckers are using frequencies in the 10 meter band. .

From : yofuri

and another of first phone broadcast and radar endorsements 1959. that was back when you got a real proudly-frame-it-and-hang-it-on-the-wall license not just a billfold card. rick bobby@kkelectsites.org writes first phone since 1964. first radiotelegraph since same year. ditto.. bit of an ol fart myself second phone 1965 first phone 1970 broadcast endorsement amateur novice 1962 amateur general 1963 amateur advanced 1970 -- help support satellite radio! your local radio broadcasters through their powerful nab lobbyiests are currently pushing a bill through congress that if passed would block the satellite radio services from carrying local content traffic & weather please call your elected representatives at 202 225-3121 and urge them to oppose hr 4026. we need your help please. http//www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp .

From : transurgeon

you are preaching to the choir. i hold both amateur & commercial licenses which commercial g first phone since 1970 back when there was a real exam......... .

From : k k electronics

you are preaching to the choir. i hold both amateur & commercial licenses which commercial g first phone since 1970 back when there was a real exam......... first phone since 1964. first radiotelegraph since same year. .

From : transurgeon

you are preaching to the choir. i hold both amateur & commercial licenses which commercial g first phone since 1970 back when there was a real exam......... first phone since 1964. first radiotelegraph since same year. ah the good old days a shame what the standard is these days isnt it .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from mac davis they have cell phones in montana .....yeah but we only use em to call the sheep-pimps. - .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from jerry then there is only one way to accomplish your intended purpose. a good quality properly located antenna. this is what im trying to accomplish. im just seeking a way to do this that doesnt involve drilling or other damage to my finish. .

From : dog

how would i go about getting my cb license looking at the needs in my truck it appears the cb radio would do me good for now. dog .

From : dave

the form used to be in the box with the radio when you bought it but thats not even needed any more. just plug it in and talk away. how would i go about getting my cb license looking at the needs in my truck it appears the cb radio would do me good for now. dog .

From : mac davis

on 29 jul 2004 053016 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote subject re cb antenna from jay smith jaysmith@insightbb.com come into the 21 century and get a nextel if want a two-way radio. i dont think you understand the intended purpose. im not putting in the radio for casual chit chat when im bored. the sole purpose of this radio would be to call for help should i find myself stranded beyond cell phone range in a montana blizzard. when calling for help its best to use a medium shared by others around you and out here cbs are as common probably more-so as cell phones. they have cell phones in montana are they for calling sheep nate lmao mac .

From : k k electronics

subject re cb antenna from k & k electronics bobby@kkelectsites.org date 7/28/2004 956 pm central standard time message-id ce9ou4$3s6$0@pita.alt.net childish statements by u.s. amateurs like ill throw a 500 watt carrier on anyone transmitting freeband in the ham bands is going to land the perpetrator on riley hollingsworths short list. no its not. whos going to complain some idiot trucker running 500w with an export rig gee mr hollingsworth that mean old licensed amateur operating with his granted privileges stepped on my 10-4 good buddy message...!! you dont know what youre talking about. corner riley at a hamfest and ask him. i did and he gave me an ear full of info and advice. ill bet he did. was go soak your head one of them thank you for your support of amateur radio a family hobby. yes it is. and hopefully with a bit fewer illegal operators on 10 meters too. steve k4yz you have some uniquely strong opinions on this subject as well as being misinformed. do i have your permission to forward a copy of your posting to riley hollingsworth thank you in advance. bobby .

From : k k electronics

bobby@kkelectsites.org writes you are preaching to the choir. i hold both amateur & commercial licenses and a military permit i wont mention here as well as being an industry professional for many years. my reference to freeband was intended as such from the perspective of how a long-haul trucker refers to these frequencies. ergo as far as a long-haul trucker is concerned there is such a thing as freeband. when you go slumming in the trailer park it is very helpful to be able to speak the language of the trailer park if you catch my drift ask any street cop. moreover fcc jurisdiction ceases where u.s. sovereignty ceases. the fcc does not have omnipotent worldwide jurisdiction. depending on many factors certain operations which u.s. amateurs mistakenly perceive as unlicensed radio operation may in fact be quite legal in another countrys jurisdiction. childish statements by u.s. amateurs like ill throw a 500 watt carrier on anyone transmitting freeband in the ham bands is going to land the perpetrator on riley hollingsworths short list. corner riley at a hamfest and ask him. i did and he gave me an ear full of info and advice. dropping 1/2 kw carriers on illegal operators only calls attention to you and no one else. it accomplishes nothing. the best defense is a strong offense. monitor monitor and monitor. keep written logs. if you want to help keep listening and help develop bootlegger profiles. one of the most helpful profiles is the activity profile i.e. what times of the day/night are they habitually on destination profiles anything that can eventually lead to their identity or location or trip schedules routes employer etc. illegal operations have no right or expectation of privacy therefore feel completely free to record them. next year if teresa heinz-kerry can keep her elitist mouth shut long enough for her husband to get elected funding will be forthcoming and enforcement will get stepped up. soon therell be some trucker good buddies with long faces big fines and forfeited equipment. when writing complaint letters to the fcc with your gathered evidence be sure to write to your nearest u.s. attorneys office and share your information with them as well. quite often the u.s. marshals service will be only too happy to step in when the violations concern elements of the united states criminal code. remember the fcc only has jurisdiction over the licensed services. everything else can be found buried in 47cfrc5 and becomes the purview of the u.s. marshals service. the violations are federal and these guys love their job. -- hooked on ebonics lesson 1 use the word forclose in a sentence. forclose if i pay alimony dis mont i gots no money forclose. exactly but that requires work & time which most folks dont want to invest to catch the freebanders and other unlicensed ops. i have never been a federal bureaucrat but have had to work with them on many cases. my experience is to make your complaint as easy as possible for them to work and they will give your complaint attention quicker than the guy who just calls up and whines about someone on 28120 doing illegal ops. bureaucrats get credit for cases they solve. when you do most of the work for them they see an easy way to solve a case and take credit for your work. sort of a win-win situation. bobby .

From : k k electronics

and another of first phone broadcast and radar endorsements 1959. that was back when you got a real proudly-frame-it-and-hang-it-on-the-wall license not just a billfold card. rick bobby@kkelectsites.org writes first phone since 1964. first radiotelegraph since same year. yup sure was proud to earn my first phone & first radiotelegraph back in the 60s. the amateur extra was a lofty goal way back when too. i hung all my paper on the wall of my grandads house right next to my dads & grandads paper. now you can probably take the same paper and use it for toilet paper for what it is worth old fart here speaking hi. heard an extra class on a repeater the other day using 10-4 and what is your personal too funny! on the commercial side you got the guy now with a radiotelephone who repairs gear by prying out the bad board with a heavy-duty screwdriver. ouch! guess you gotta just move on with the times. bobby .

From : Annonymous

montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper writes ......were involved in a war on terror with muslim extremists who wish to kill us and our children and the democrats would put money that should be spent fighting them into chasing amateur radio operators. seems in keeping with their agenda. ahh... no dipshit it isnt the duly licensed law-abiding amateur radio operators that need chasing. read and more importantly understand the goddamn thread. people like you who only read enough of something to completely misunderstand the meaning and get the story completely upside down and then repeat it incorrectly to others is part of our problem. if you had *read* the thread and possess sufficient comprehension and mental acuity to process the words you would better understand that it is the scofflaws that need the chasing. those individuals including terrorists who obtain radio transmitting equipment often through surreptitious means solely with the intent of using it on unauthorized frequencies for illegal purposes to communicate within and amongst themselves without the federally mandated licenses. these individuals are not amateur radio operators. there actually **is** a band of frequencies from 26.965 through 27.405 but not inclusive where unlicensed communications cb are in fact authorized at least to the extent that communications on these frequencies are not being conducted for unlawful purposes. sheesh!! .

From : jerry

montanajeeper wrote subject re cb antenna from jay smith jaysmith@insightbb.com come into the 21 century and get a nextel if want a two-way radio. i dont think you understand the intended purpose. im not putting in the radio for casual chit chat when im bored. then there is only one way to accomplish your intended purpose. a good quality properly located antenna. the key to any radio whether it is a cheap or expensive unit is the antenna. anything less and you might as well just carry a little frs radio around. jerry .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from ramman@dodgecity.cc ahh... no dipshit ....sure didnt take you long to hit that low road. - it comes as no surprise though based upon your other assinine statements. those individuals including terrorists who obtain radio transmitting equipment heh....so now you want to change your story. no surprise there either. - your statement that i responded to had nothing to do with terrorists. you want government funds to be spent on chasing down truck drivers because you dont like the way they use their radios. yeah big threat there. id prefer enforcement money be spent on chasing down those would want to kill my children.....but im not a liberal so maybe im just not capable of understanding the importance of chasing down those evil evil truck drivers playing with radios. - .

From : Annonymous

bobby@kkelectsites.org writes heard an extra class on a repeater the other day using 10-4 and what is your personal must have been on 2m. around houston weve been calling that band of frequencies ham cb for the past several years. not hard to understand why. the minimum license for that band and mode is just too easy to get and what you hear on there today is the result. fortunately so far at least that bunch has not infiltrated 440. -- help support satellite radio! your local radio broadcasters through their powerful nab lobbyiests are currently pushing a bill through congress that if passed would block the satellite radio services from carrying local content traffic & weather please call your elected representatives at 202 225-3121 and urge them to oppose hr 4026. we need your help please. http//www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp .

From : tbone

subject re cb antenna from ramman@dodgecity.cc if the democrats win back the white house in november sodapop and the gang can look forward to the fcc getting some long-awaited funding to resume stepped-up enforcement. ......were involved in a war on terror with muslim extremists who wish to kill us and our children and the democrats would put money that should be spent fighting them into chasing amateur radio operators. seems in keeping with their agenda. lol do you really believe that -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : robert casey

k & k electronics wrote childish statements by u.s. amateurs like ill throw a 500 watt carrier on anyone transmitting freeband in the ham bands is going to land the perpetrator on riley hollingsworths short list. corner riley at a hamfest and ask him. i did and he gave me an ear full of info and advice. iirc 10m is a world wide ham allocation so anyone not a ham is not legal. and riley said that its not possible to interfere with an illegal operator. unless an emergency is in progress in which case hed would be legal for that emergency. then lend assistance or stand by if someone else is. .

From : denny

id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks nate ive read with great interest all suggestions on where to stick your antenna. g if i may make a couple of suggestions 1 put a big blob of jb weld centered on top of the roof panel and plop the wilson antenna in it. 2 same principle but use silicone sealer preferably one to match the paint color. guaranteed no dirt will get under it to scratch the paint.... you will also need to get color coded duck tape to secure the cable down the corner of the cab.. hope you consider my suggestions ive put a lot of thought into them... vbfg denny .

From : k k electronics

k & k electronics wrote childish statements by u.s. amateurs like ill throw a 500 watt carrier on anyone transmitting freeband in the ham bands is going to land the perpetrator on riley hollingsworths short list. corner riley at a hamfest and ask him. i did and he gave me an ear full of info and advice. iirc 10m is a world wide ham allocation so anyone not a ham is not legal. and riley said that its not possible to interfere with an illegal operator. unless an emergency is in progress in which case hed would be legal for that emergency. then lend assistance or stand by if someone else is. you are using faulty logic and certainly misrepresenting what riley told myself and others. two wrongs never make a right. one thing old timers respect and is never mentioned today is the spirit of ham radio. deliberately hunting down what someone perceives to be an illegal operation should always be left to the professionals especially if you plan to deliberately interfere with said operation. you could be wrong. it is shocking how the character of ham radio operators has radically changed in the last two decades but not surprising when one views hams not only as hams but members of american society. for a ham to state he/she intends to deliberately cause interference was unheard of two or three decades ago. today it seems to cause no alarm in the amateur community. character meant something years ago in ham radio. today one might ask what character and make the point precisely. oh btw the u.s. military is quite legal if they so chose to use the 10m ham band and they are definitely not hams. do you want to take the risk of deliberately jamming u.s. military communications i think not. i had this very discussion with riley not too long ago and he agreed with my premise. thank you for your support of ham radio. bobby .

From : jj

robert casey wrote k & k electronics wrote childish statements by u.s. amateurs like ill throw a 500 watt carrier on anyone transmitting freeband in the ham bands is going to land the perpetrator on riley hollingsworths short list. corner riley at a hamfest and ask him. i did and he gave me an ear full of info and advice. iirc 10m is a world wide ham allocation so anyone not a ham is not legal. and riley said that its not possible to interfere with an illegal operator. unless an emergency is in progress in which case hed would be legal for that emergency. then lend assistance or stand by if someone else is. yes you can transmit over these illegal operators on 10 meters and it is not considered illegal interference since the illegal operators have no rights to be on those frequencies. .

From : jtr

a grad student a while back designed a high-gain quarter-wave antenna as part of her doctoral thesis. she used a dodge quad cab 1500 pick up and found out when her specially designed quarter-wave antenna was mounted at exactly one half the length of the perpendicular axis between the trucks windshield and rear window it resulted in an antenna yielding 12 d.b. gain extremely unusual for a quarter-wave antenna. the unusually high gain was limited to approximately the 26.000 to 30.000 mhz frequency range due to the physical characteristics of the dodge truck used in her experiments. her studies were published in a scientific journal. she offered to publish her studies for free in qst but the arrl declined her offer saying very little of their readership owned dodge trucks. rumors leaked out that the true reason her article was declined was because the accompanying pictures in her article would offend the white male readership of qst. the author was a young african-american woman. additionally she based some of her studies on a cb antenna which would further incense the qst readership. in reality the dumb downed technical expertise found in todays ham radio community would fail to grasp the scientific principles of here experiments anyway. so it was no big loss. .

From : transurgeon

got a url for that scientific journal to back up that tall tale 12 db gain from a 1/4 wave................right.................... a grad student a while back designed a high-gain quarter-wave antenna as part of her doctoral thesis. she used a dodge quad cab 1500 pick up and found out when her specially designed quarter-wave antenna was mounted at exactly one half the length of the perpendicular axis between the trucks windshield and rear window it resulted in an antenna yielding 12 d.b. gain extremely unusual for a quarter-wave antenna. the unusually high gain was limited to approximately the 26.000 to 30.000 mhz frequency range due to the physical characteristics of the dodge truck used in her experiments. her studies were published in a scientific journal. she offered to publish her studies for free in qst but the arrl declined her offer saying very little of their readership owned dodge trucks. rumors leaked out that the true reason her article was declined was because the accompanying pictures in her article would offend the white male readership of qst. the author was a young african-american woman. additionally she based some of her studies on a cb antenna which would further incense the qst readership. in reality the dumb downed technical expertise found in todays ham radio community would fail to grasp the scientific principles of here experiments anyway. so it was no big loss. .

From : jj

jtr wrote a grad student a while back designed a high-gain quarter-wave antenna as part of her doctoral thesis. she used a dodge quad cab 1500 pick up and found out when her specially designed quarter-wave antenna was mounted at exactly one half the length of the perpendicular axis between the trucks windshield and rear window it resulted in an antenna yielding 12 d.b. gain 12 db gain over what a bent coathanger if the db claim isnt compared to some standard then the db gain claimed means absolutely nothing. extremely unusual for a quarter-wave antenna. i would say not even realistic. .

From : transurgeon

jtr wrote a grad student a while back designed a high-gain quarter-wave antenna as part of her doctoral thesis. she used a dodge quad cab 1500 pick up and found out when her specially designed quarter-wave antenna was mounted at exactly one half the length of the perpendicular axis between the trucks windshield and rear window it resulted in an antenna yielding 12 d.b. gain 12 db gain over what a bent coathanger if the db claim isnt compared to some standard then the db gain claimed means absolutely nothing. gain is usually referenced to a 1/4 wave antenna extremely unusual for a quarter-wave antenna. unusually is putting it mildly i would say not even realistic. ive got another word in mind .

From : anon

subject re cb antenna from k & k electronics bobby@kkelectsites.org date 7/29/2004 500 pm central standard time message-id cebruu$gjc$0@pita.alt.net iirc 10m is a world wide ham allocation so anyone not a ham is not legal. and riley said that its not possible to interfere with an illegal operator. unless an emergency is in progress in which case hed would be legal for that emergency. then lend assistance or stand by if someone else is. you are using faulty logic and certainly misrepresenting what riley told myself and others. actually i believe you are trolling. the 10 meter band is an international allocation meaning it is allocated exclusively to amateur radio in all three regions. cbers taxiis truckers etc have no business being there. period. two wrongs never make a right. actually the saying is two wongs cant make a white. and in mathematics two negatives do make a positive. as far as 10 meters goes you are in error. one thing old timers respect and is never mentioned today is the spirit of ham radio. deliberately hunting down what someone perceives to be an illegal operation should always be left to the professionals especially if you plan to deliberately interfere with said operation. ssb operations at 28.120mhz discussing where to pick up the next load or where one perceives a school of fish to be lurking is not amateur operations. not in this or any other country. you could be wrong. not likely. if its preceeded with the words mayday mayday mayday i dont care if its from red china or north korea i will answer it and do my best to help. otherwise it doesnt belong. it is shocking how the character of ham radio operators has radically changed in the last two decades but not surprising when one views hams not only as hams but members of american society. for a ham to state he/she intends to deliberately cause interference was unheard of two or three decades ago. the character of ham radio is such that were tired of i bought this radio and ill danged well use it wherever i want freebanders. if its not an amateur radio transmission identified with a callsign identifiable to a nation of origin and then in itself verifiable its bogus. nice try at trying to justify your own bootleg operations which is what i perceive this as an attempt to do. today it seems to cause no alarm in the amateur community. character meant something years ago in ham radio. today one might ask what character and make the point precisely. oh btw the u.s. military is quite legal if they so chose to use the 10m ham band and they are definitely not hams. do you want to take the risk of deliberately jamming u.s. military communications i think not. i had this very discussion with riley not too long ago and he agreed with my premise. amateurs can differentiate between military traffic and cb traffic...it isnt rocket science. your premise of a conversation with mr hollingsworth is comical though. and military communicators are taught where they can operate with the least amount of interference and what to expect there. they know where amateurs are and they certainly know where cb is. unless it is to establish liasion with civilian authorities you will not find us military units operating inside amateur allocations. thank you for your support of ham radio. and your callsign would be...!! steve k4yz keep back pedalling! .

From : Annonymous

found it. it was 12 db gain over a piece of clothesline rope i recall some interesting experiments one time with an old state police mobile antenna. it seems an old wave buggy whip for 49 mhz works out to be exactly a 3/4 wave resonant length for 147 mhz. the additional capture area of the big buggy whip compared to the little 19 whip really makes quite a difference in receiving and being an odd multiple of wavelength it presented a good load to the transmitter. nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom writes got a url for that scientific journal to back up that tall tale 12 db gain from a 1/4 wave................right.................... a grad student a while back designed a high-gain quarter-wave antenna as part of her doctoral thesis. she used a dodge quad cab 1500 pick up and found out when her specially designed quarter-wave antenna was mounted at exactly one half the length of the perpendicular axis between the trucks windshield and rear window it resulted in an antenna yielding 12 d.b. gain extremely unusual for a quarter-wave antenna. the unusually high gain was limited to approximately the 26.000 to 30.000 mhz frequency range due to the physical characteristics of the dodge truck used in her experiments. her studies were published in a scientific journal. she offered to publish her studies for free in qst but the arrl declined her offer saying very little of their readership owned dodge trucks. rumors leaked out that the true reason her article was declined was because the accompanying pictures in her article would offend the white male readership of qst. the author was a young african-american woman. additionally she based some of her studies on a cb antenna which would further incense the qst readership. in reality the dumb downed technical expertise found in todays ham radio community would fail to grasp the scientific principles of here experiments anyway. so it was no big loss. -- help support satellite radio! your local radio broadcasters through their powerful nab lobbyiests are currently pushing a bill through congress that if passed would block the satellite radio services from carrying local content traffic & weather please call your elected representatives at 202 225-3121 and urge them to oppose hr 4026. we need your help please. http//www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp .

From : mike coslo

ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote bobby@kkelectsites.org writes heard an extra class on a repeater the other day using 10-4 and what is your personal must have been on 2m. around houston weve been calling that band of frequencies ham cb for the past several years. not hard to understand why. the minimum license for that band and mode is just too easy to get and what you hear on there today is the result. fortunately so far at least that bunch has not infiltrated 440. ah qsl on that hi hi! dunno who those people think they are that they talk so funny.... 73 om! - mike kb3eia - .

From : jeff mayner

jtr wrote a grad student a while back designed a high-gain quarter-wave antenna as part of her doctoral thesis. she used a dodge quad cab 1500 pick up and found out when her specially designed quarter-wave antenna was mounted at exactly one half the length of the perpendicular axis between the trucks windshield and rear window it resulted in an antenna yielding 12 d.b. gain extremely unusual for a quarter-wave antenna. the unusually high gain was limited to approximately the 26.000 to 30.000 mhz frequency range due to the physical characteristics of the dodge truck used in her experiments. her studies were published in a scientific journal. she offered to publish her studies for free in qst but the arrl declined her offer saying very little of their readership owned dodge trucks. rumors leaked out that the true reason her article was declined was because the accompanying pictures in her article would offend the white male readership of qst. the author was a young african-american woman. additionally she based some of her studies on a cb antenna which would further incense the qst readership. in reality the dumb downed technical expertise found in todays ham radio community would fail to grasp the scientific principles of here experiments anyway. so it was no big loss. lol... ouch! ;- jeff .

From : mac davis

on 29 jul 2004 162922 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote subject re cb antenna from mac davis they have cell phones in montana ....yeah but we only use em to call the sheep-pimps. - that was really baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad nate mac .

From : mike coslo

k & k electronics wrote and another of first phone broadcast and radar endorsements 1959. that was back when you got a real proudly-frame-it-and-hang-it-on-the-wall license not just a billfold card. rick bobby@kkelectsites.org writes first phone since 1964. first radiotelegraph since same year. yup sure was proud to earn my first phone & first radiotelegraph back in the 60s. the amateur extra was a lofty goal way back when too. i hung all my paper on the wall of my grandads house right next to my dads & grandads paper. now you can probably take the same paper and use it for toilet paper for what it is worth old fart here speaking hi. why dont you just turn in that ol license. it must be terrible having to deal with us lowly nickel extras eh someone might mistake you for one of us! 8^ heard an extra class on a repeater the other day using 10-4 and what is your personal too funny! yeah ive heard the same thing. amazing enough the guy had been an extra since the days when real hams took real tests. and is typing hi any less a faux pas than saying 10-4 on a repeater on the commercial side you got the guy now with a radiotelephone who repairs gear by prying out the bad board with a heavy-duty screwdriver. ouch! guess you gotta just move on with the times. - mike kb3eia - licensed since 1999 general 2001 extra 2002 - a new fart i guess.... .

From : transurgeon

on 29 jul 2004 162922 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote subject re cb antenna from mac davis they have cell phones in montana ....yeah but we only use em to call the sheep-pimps. - that was really baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad nate a beef rancher in montana had a visit from a distant cousin that lived in san francisco. one day they were driving around the ranch checking fences when they came upon a sheep with its head stuck in the fence. the rancher chuckled and told his cousin watch this heres how we have some fun around here!... he got out of the truck walked over to the sheep and had his way with it. returning to the truck he told his cousin thats a real hoot you wanna try it the cousin said sure got out of the truck went over to the sheep dropped his pants got on his hands and knees and stuck his head into the fence. .

From : Annonymous

writes and is typing hi any less a faux pas than saying 10-4 on a repeater not really. just that 10-4 kinda grindles me because the next thing out of his mouth is probably going to be good buddy. im sorry that ham didnt learn that vernacular on the ham bands he learned it somewhere else. its probably too late or too prolific by now to reverse it tho i have to wonder if some self-respecting ham had taken that guy under his wing and mentored him just for a couple days it probably could have been avoided. but roger or roger that is imo worse when its taken to extremes ie as a standard comeback when the qso is turned over to you. if its spoken as an acknowledgement thats one thing but as a standard startup to your contribution to the qso is tantamount to saying 10-4 -- help support satellite radio! your local radio broadcasters through their powerful nab lobbyiests are currently pushing a bill through congress that if passed would block the satellite radio services from carrying local content traffic & weather please call your elected representatives at 202 225-3121 and urge them to oppose hr 4026. we need your help please. http//www.xmradio.com/grassroots/index.jsp .

From : yonzie

20040729013016.18077.00000804@mb-m03.aol.com montanajeeper montanajeeper@aol.com wrote subject re cb antenna from jay smith jaysmith@insightbb.com come into the 21 century and get a nextel if want a two-way radio. i dont think you understand the intended purpose. im not putting in the radio for casual chit chat when im bored. the sole purpose of this radio would be to call for help should i find myself stranded beyond cell phone range in a montana blizzard. when calling for help its best to use a medium shared by others around you and out here cbs are as common probably more-so as cell phones. nathan wouldnt a satellite phone work dale .

From : montanajeeper

subject re cb antenna from yonzie yonzie@mac.com nathan wouldnt a satellite phone work i dont know to much about them but dont they require somewhat clear skies to function if its anything like satellite tv reception it wouldnt cut it in heavy snowfall. .

From : william

and is typing hi any less a faux pas than saying 10-4 on a repeater mike absolutely. people say all sorts of silly and even stupid things but to go after the ones who actually use some kind of ham-speak is kind of silly in itself. ive heard hi hi used on repeaters since before the invention of no-code techs so it is old fart blessed. hi hi. meanwhile sorry hans mars.... gets the pass. good grief. bb .

From : steve robeson k4cap

ive heard hi hi used on repeaters since before the invention of no-code techs so it is old fart blessed. no more so blessed than hearing profanity in places of public accomodation. the foul mouthed and the weak-minded will always be with us and we yes the royal wecan only do so much to deter it. one would hope that knowing better would rule the day however there will always be those who insist on being less than they can be if only to prove that they have the right to be stupid and weak minded. hi hi. as i was saying... meanwhile sorry hans mars.... gets the pass. good grief. bb excuse me...your real name...!! steve k4yz .

From : d stussy

on tue 27 jul 2004 robert casey wrote why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. nice... anyway he cant be that stupid if he knows enough to ask the above questions. cb aint that bad a thing to begin with anyway. he is if he cant figure out that he should have asked on rec.radio.cb which if he were searching for a cb radio forum he would have found long before rec.radio.amateur.* of which .misc is a better place than .policy but .equipment might be even better. .

From : steveo

rileygotcha ho@rileygotemhoho.com wrote and stop post editing. original post came from a cb radio group. which cb group it wasnt posted to rec.radio.cb at all. .

From : nosey

d. stussy wrote on tue 27 jul 2004 robert casey wrote why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. nice... anyway he cant be that stupid if he knows enough to ask the above questions. cb aint that bad a thing to begin with anyway. he is if he cant figure out that he should have asked on rec.radio.cb which if he were searching for a cb radio forum he would have found long before rec.radio.amateur.* of which .misc is a better place than .policy but .equipment might be even better. this thread originated in the dodge truck group. it didnt get stupid until it was crossposted into the radio group by w5o0xq al@dagroupmeter.net. .

From : rileygotcha

d. stussy wrote on tue 27 jul 2004 robert casey wrote why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. nice... anyway he cant be that stupid if he knows enough to ask the above questions. cb aint that bad a thing to begin w ithanyway. he is if he cant figure out that he should have asked on rec.radio.cb which if he were searching for a cb radio forum he would have found long before rec.radio.amateur.* of which .misc is a better place than .policy but .equipment might be even better. this thread originated in the dodge truck group. it didnt get stupid until it was crossposted into the radio group by w5o0xq al@dagroupmeter.net. w5o0xq is a cb call not a ham call. original post came in from a cb radio group. .

From : jerry

rileygotcha wrote it was crossposted into the radio group by w5o0xq al@dagroupmeter.net. w5o0xq is a cb call not a ham call. original post came in from a cb radio group. wrong ......... here is the original post that originated in the dodge truck group by a long time poster to this group. al w500xq was the first to cross post it. subject cb antenna date 27 jul 2004 040637 gmt from montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper organization aol http//www.aol.com id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks jerry .

From : nosey

rileygotcha wrote d. stussy wrote on tue 27 jul 2004 robert casey wrote why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. nice... anyway he cant be that stupid if he knows enough to ask the above questions. cb aint that bad a thing to begin w ithanyway. he is if he cant figure out that he should have asked on rec.radio.cb which if he were searching for a cb radio forum he would have found long before rec.radio.amateur.* of which .misc is a better place than .policy but .equipment might be even better. this thread originated in the dodge truck group. it didnt get stupid until it was crossposted into the radio group by w5o0xq al@dagroupmeter.net. w5o0xq is a cb call not a ham call. original post came in from a cb radio group. i wont argue what kind of call the posters name is because its not relevant. this was never posted in any cb group. it has only been in alt.autos.dodge trucks and rec.radio.amateur.policy. the original message pm and got crossposted into rec.radio.amateur.policy by w5o0xq on 7/27/2004 at 104 pm central time zone. .

From : rileygotcha

rileygotcha wrote it was crossposted into the radio group by w5o0xq al@dagroupmeter.net. bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! wrong! you need to clean the bugs off your truck windshield there cowboy! that was not the original post. and stop post editing. original post came from a cb radio group. arent you the one who x-posted it w5o0xq is a cb call not a ham call. original post came in from a cb radio group. wrong ......... here is the original post that originated in the dodge truck group by a long time poster to this group. al w500xq was the first to cross post it. subject cb antenna date 27 jul 2004 040637 gmt from montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper organization aol http//www.aol.com id like to put a cb in the new dodge and im trying to figure out what type of antenna wont damage the body in one way or another. perhaps its just because the new hasnt worn off yet but i dont want a ring on the roof left from a magnetic antenna anymore than i want to bore a hole into the side of the bed for a ball mount. ive considered the glass mount but am told that theyre prone to falling off and that reception is poor. so are there any cb antenna mounts that wont damage my truck over time or require drilling thanks jerry .

From : rileygotcha

i wont argue what kind of call the posters name is because its not relevant. this was never posted in any cb group. it has only been in alt.autos.dodge trucks and rec.radio.amateur.policy. the original message 1024 pm and got crossposted into rec.radio.amateur.policy by w5o0xq on 7/27/2004 at 104 pm central time zone. lol! now you are using sock puppets jerry-nosey nosey-jerry. who is the cb op who made the original post probably nosey-jerry. 10-4 good buddy. go back to your cb group truck group whatever and stop x-posting to the ham radio groups. rileygotcha .

From : rileygotcha

rileygotcha ho@rileygotemhoho.com wrote and stop post editing. original post came from a cb radio group. which cb group it wasnt posted to rec.radio.cb at all. whichever cb group and whatever sock puppet you used to put it there then global post it before you x-posted it to the radio environmentalist groups. only you can answer that our group is not interested in trucks. rileygotcha .

From : transurgeon

i wont argue what kind of call the posters name is because its not relevant. this was never posted in any cb group. it has only been in alt.autos.dodge trucks and rec.radio.amateur.policy. the original message 1024 pm and got crossposted into rec.radio.amateur.policy by w5o0xq on 7/27/2004 at 104 pm central time zone. lol! now you are using sock puppets jerry-nosey nosey-jerry. who is the cb op who made the original post probably nosey-jerry. 10-4 good buddy. go back to your cb group truck group whatever and stop x-posting to the ham radio groups. rileygotcha what are you the new net-nanny .

From : mac davis

on tue 03 aug 2004 131349 gmt transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote lol! now you are using sock puppets jerry-nosey nosey-jerry. who is the cb op who made the original post probably nosey-jerry. 10-4 good buddy. go back to your cb group truck group whatever and stop x-posting to the ham radio groups. rileygotcha what are you the new net-nanny hes definitely not the pr person for ham radio.. i hope mac .

From : steveo

rileygotcha ho@rileygotemhoho.com wrote rileygotcha ho@rileygotemhoho.com wrote and stop post editing. original post came from a cb radio group. which cb group it wasnt posted to rec.radio.cb at all. whichever cb group and whatever sock puppet you used to put it there then global post it before you x-posted it to the radio environmentalist groups. only you can answer that our group is not interested in trucks. rileygotcha i used your moms cum catch fool. .

From : bryan swadener

mac yeah mac in the owners manual that came with the machine it says continual use of the machine could be hazardous to your health dale yeah it causes one to buy cadillacs yukons fords atvs corvettes and all sorts of other shit !!!!!!!! vbg politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : jerry

rileygotcha wrote rileygotcha wrote it was crossposted into the radio group by w5o0xq al@dagroupmeter.net. bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! wrong! you need to clean the bugs off your truck windshield there cowboy! that was not the original post. and stop post editing. original post came from a cb radio group. arent you the one who x-posted it oops .......... i think we just ran into troll # 2 here. its not post editing fool its called snip and paste but then you already knew that........ and yes that was the original post in this group. then again you already knew that also didnt you. oh well school starts soon and he will have other interests. jerry .

From : fmb

on 29 jul 2004 162922 gmt montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote subject re cb antenna from mac davis they have cell phones in montana ....yeah but we only use em to call the sheep-pimps. - that was really baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad nate a beef rancher in montana had a visit from a distant cousin that lived in san francisco. one day they were driving around the ranch checking fences when they came upon a sheep with its head stuck in the fence. the rancher chuckled and told his cousin watch this heres how we have some fun around here!... he got out of the truck walked over to the sheep and had his way with it. returning to the truck he told his cousin thats a real hoot you wanna try it the cousin said sure got out of the truck went over to the sheep dropped his pants got on his hands and knees and stuck his head into the fence. rotflmfao rolling not bent over -- fmb only one b in fmb .

From : roy

i wont argue what kind of call the posters name is because its not relevant. this was never posted in any cb group. it has only been in alt.autos.dodge trucks and rec.radio.amateur.policy. the original message 1024 pm and got crossposted into rec.radio.amateur.policy by w5o0xq on 7/27/2004 at 104 pm central time zone. lol! now you are using sock puppets jerry-nosey nosey-jerry. who is the cb op who made the original post probably nosey-jerry. 10-4 good buddy. go back to your cb group truck group whatever and stop x-posting to the ham radio groups. rileygotcha hey dick head!!! it was as nosey and jerry have been telling you. it originated here the 8th person w50......... cross posted it to the other groups. stop playing with yourself and look at google for the history of this thread. .

From : polly

hey dick head!!! it was as nosey and jerry have been telling you. it originated here the 8th person w50......... cross posted it to the other groups. stop playing with yourself and look at google for the history of this thread. you truckers really need to get back on the interstate highway and give up trying to be comedians. what is an 8 person 50 polly .

From : shiting in high cotton

nice try stupid. since you already earned your g.e.d. could you help jerry complete his shcotton .

From : polly

somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly .

From : nosey

rileygotcha wrote i wont argue what kind of call the posters name is because its not relevant. this was never posted in any cb group. it has only been in alt.autos.dodge trucks and rec.radio.amateur.policy. the original 7/26/2004 at 1024 pm and got crossposted into rec.radio.amateur.policy by w5o0xq on 7/27/2004 at 104 pm central time zone. lol! now you are using sock puppets jerry-nosey nosey-jerry. who is the cb op who made the original post probably nosey-jerry. 10-4 good buddy. go back to your cb group truck group whatever and stop x-posting to the ham radio groups. rileygotcha you are funny. bye .

From : grumman581

w5o0xq wrote ... why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. .--. . .-. .... .- .--. ... + -... . -.-. .- ..- ... . + -.-. -... + .-. .- -.. .. --- ... + .- .-. . + ..- ... .. -.. + -- --- .-. . + --- -. + - .... . + - .-. .- .. ..-.. + .-- .... . -. + -.-- --- ..- + .- .-. . + --- ..-. ...-. .-. --- .- -.. .. -. --. + - .... .- -. + .- -. -.-- + --- ..-. + - .... . + .... .- -- + ..-. .-. . --.- ..- .. -. -.-. .. . ... .

From : grumman581

heres one that doesnt require any drilling to mount the antenna... mounts in the stake holes... might need to drill a hole to run the coax though... http//www.firestik.com/catalog/mk-294r.htm http//www.firestik.com/catalog/ss-194.htm http//www.firestik.com/catalog/ss-294a.htm .

From : shiting in high cotton

polly erred somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly there is no such endorsement -- the fcc not the usdot has jurisdiction over radio communication in the us. cb and frs *might* be considered freeband since the licensing requirements were eliminated decades ago. however there are regulations still that apply to transmitter power mode frequency control etc for those services. the fcc still requires operators of transmitters in the amateur bands to hold valid amateur radio service licenses. thus it is not freeband. bryan amateur advanced class 1970 general radiotelephone operator 1975 what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. shcotton .

From : bryan swadener

28mpg from a full-size pickup with a big-block v8 is so far left of reality even the former iraqi information minister couldnt hold a straight face while telling that one. he forgot to tell you its one of those 572 inch gmpp pump gas big blocks!!!! g politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : shiting in high cotton

http//www.godmudders.com/01-01update/bigblkford.jpg hey that isnt mine but it looks close and you can just feel the big power! it eats eco-weenies for breakfast sierra clubbers for lunch and nerdy biologist for dinner! it even hauls stuff sometimes. when i ride in big iron like this i am like the guy in zz top bad and nationwide. here you go. some real 4x4s. http//www.f650pickups.com/page0002.html hey thats cool all we need are bigger tanks to compesate for the mpg and look how clean the sky is behind those mean machines so how can they pollute more! i got mine you got yours i got mine so up yours! steve .

From : grumman581

i have a 1997 dakota 104000 miles. i special ordered the truck. i have the original rotors on them. i live in pennsylvania where there is a state mandated safety inspection every year. i must be the exception. .

From : jerry

shiting in high cotton wrote ... ahhhhhh that explains your stupidity. you are a stumpjumper! - .... --- ... . + .-- .... --- + .... .- ...- . + .-- .... .. . .-.. . -.. + ...- . .... .. -.-. .-.. . ... + -- ..- .... - + .--- ..- -- .--. + - .... . + ... - ..- -- .--. ... - .... --- ... . + .-- .... --- + .... .- ...- . + - .-. ..- -.-. -.- . -.. + ...- . .... .. -.-. .-.. . ... + -.-. ..- -. + --. --- + - .... .-. --- ..- --. .... + - .... . -- .

From : jj

shiting in high cotton wrote what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. please dont tell me youre driving one of them big old trucks down the road. first place there is no such thing as freeband. it is a term used by those not authorized to use a certain frequency. a cdl radio endorsement just means you have passable english and are authorized to use the frequencies associated with your carrier. it damn sure doesnt give you open use of the ham frequencies. amateurs ......... reminds me of the saying which is something like amateurs build the ark professionals built the titanic. you sure proved that point.... jerry .

From : jj

shiting in high cotton wrote polly erred somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly there is no such endorsement -- the fcc not the usdot has jurisdiction over radio communication in the us. cb and frs *might* be considered freeband since the licensing requirements were eliminated decades ago. however there are regulations still that apply to transmitter power mode frequency control etc for those services. the fcc still requires operators of transmitters in the amateur bands to hold valid amateur radio service licenses. thus it is not freeband. bryan amateur advanced class 1970 general radiotelephone operator 1975 what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. shcotton nice try stupid. .

From : transurgeon

what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. post a link to where we can find details of this alledged endorsement .

From : kens

objection...you are making assumptions not in evidence... just cause school is starting does not mean he will have other interests. rileygotcha wrote rileygotcha wrote it was crossposted into the radio group by w5o0xq al@dagroupmeter.net. bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! wrong! you need to clean the bugs off your truck windshield there cowboy! that was not the original post. and stop post editing. original post came from a cb radio group. arent you the one who x-posted it oops .......... i think we just ran into troll # 2 here. its not post editing fool its called snip and paste but then you already knew that........ and yes that was the original post in this group. then again you already knew that also didnt you. oh well school starts soon and he will have other interests. jerry .

From : fmb

what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. post a link to where we can find details of this alledged endorsement trolls do not have the ability to post authoritative supporting links. -- fmb only one b in fmb .

From : matt worthington

somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly in 1998 if you had a radio endorsement on your cdl you were exempted from radar dectector laws. that is why you saw more truckers studying for the cdl radio endorsement. matt .

From : transurgeon

there certainly is a radio endorsement for the cdl. then post the link where we can find details bzzzztttt !!!! guess you aint got it cause it dont exist ! .

From : jj

mgg wrote funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. there is no cdl with a radio endorsement. .

From : ninebal310

from mgg mike@pacbell.net funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. one of the longest threads in months just cause a guy doesnt want a ring on the roof of his truck. g. --mike lol.....i guess he got you. there is no such thing as a radio endorsement on a cdl. hank .

From : mgg

funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. one of the longest threads in months just cause a guy doesnt want a ring on the roof of his truck. g. --mike what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. post a link to where we can find details of this alledged endorsement .

From : tbone

but has no problem with soot trails up the side from making it smoke for no good reason lol. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. one of the longest threads in months just cause a guy doesnt want a ring on the roof of his truck. g. --mike what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. post a link to where we can find details of this alledged endorsement .

From : matt worthington

from mgg mike@pacbell.net funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. one of the longest threads in months just cause a guy doesnt want a ring on the roof of his truck. g. --mike lol.....i guess he got you. there is no such thing as a radio endorsement on a cdl. hank bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! wrong! there certainly is a radio endorsement for the cdl. you deny there is one for the simple reason you cannot pass the exam for one. matt .

From : bryan swadener

w5o0xq wrote ... why are you a stupid cber you should get your ham radio license. .--. . .-. .... .- .--. ... + -... . -.-. .- ..- ... . + -.-. -... + .-. .- -.. .. --- ... + .- .-. . + ..- .... . -.. + -- --- .-. . + --- -. + - .... . + - .-. .- ... .-.. + .-- .... . -. + -.-- --- ..- + .- .-. . + --- ..-. ..-. .-. --- .- -.. .. -. --. + - .... .- -. + .- -. -.-- + --- ..-. + - .... . + .... .- -- + ..-. .-. . --.- ...- . -. -.-. .. . ... for those whore morse-challenged... perhaps because cb radios are used more on the trail when you are offroading than any of the ham frequencies id agree with that om. moreover itd be a bit too hard to use the old vibroplex whilst jumping stumps! vy 73 es gd dx bryan ahhhhhh that explains your stupidity. you are a stumpjumper! shcotton i am a stumpjumper i neither said nor intimated that i was/am. am i still stupid = bryan .

From : matt worthington

there certainly is a radio endorsement for the cdl. then post the link where we can find details bzzzztttt !!!! guess you aint got it cause it dont exist ! your denial does not change the fact it exists. too bad you were too stupid to pass the test and get one. post proof there is not a cdl radio endorsement. matt .

From : matt worthington

mgg wrote funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. there is no cdl with a radio endorsement. wrong! you were too stupid to pass the test for a cdl radio endorsement so you deny that one exists. matt .

From : nosey

matt worthington wrote mgg wrote funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. there is no cdl with a radio endorsement. wrong! you were too stupid to pass the test for a cdl radio endorsement so you deny that one exists. matt you may want to re-read your own posts with an open mind. you come across as a whiny crying bitch. just because there is no reference anywhere to a cdl radio endorsement you seem to be offended. is it because you were duped into paying extra for an endorsement that means nothing to anyone except yourself you must have graduated at the top of your class. one of one. .

From : redneck tookover hell

who says that the dems will put the money into fcc enforcement seems there are a bunch of people who think kerry actually cares about something other than himself sad very sad politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : democreep party

flush the johns in 2004 vote for bush .

From : mgg

wrong! you were too stupid to pass the test for a cdl radio endorsement so you deny that one exists. not true! i looked it up so i could take the test and get the endorsement for myself. a google search turned up nothing. please tell me where to go so i can prove to you that im not too stupid to pass the test!!! --mike mgg wrote funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. there is no cdl with a radio endorsement. wrong! you were too stupid to pass the test for a cdl radio endorsement so you deny that one exists. matt .

From : jj

matt worthington wrote mgg wrote funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. there is no cdl with a radio endorsement. wrong! you were too stupid to pass the test for a cdl radio endorsement so you deny that one exists. matt ok point me to something that says there is a radio endorsment for a cdl. i hold a cdl by the way. .

From : bryan swadener

somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly in 1998 if you had a radio endorsement on your cdl you were exempted from radar dectector laws. that is why you saw more truckers studying for the cdl radio endorsement. matt more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm bryan .

From : bryan swadener

from mgg mike@pacbell.net funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. one of the longest threads in months just cause a guy doesnt want a ring on the roof of his truck. g. --mike lol.....i guess he got you. there is no such thing as a radio endorsement on a cdl. hank bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! wrong! there certainly is a radio endorsement for the cdl. you deny there is one for the simple reason you cannot pass the exam for one. matt more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm bryan .

From : bryan swadener

polly erred somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly there is no such endorsement -- the fcc not the usdot has jurisdiction over radio communication in the us. cb and frs *might* be considered freeband since the licensing requirements were eliminated decades ago. however there are regulations still that apply to transmitter power mode frequency control etc for those services. the fcc still requires operators of transmitters in the amateur bands to hold valid amateur radio service licenses. thus it is not freeband. bryan amateur advanced class 1970 general commercial radiotelephone operator 1975 what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. shcotton more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm. bryan amateur advanced class 1970 general commercial radiotelephone operator 1975 .

From : bryan swadener

matt worthington wrote mgg wrote funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. there is no cdl with a radio endorsement. wrong! you were too stupid to pass the test for a cdl radio endorsement so you deny that one exists. matt ok point me to something that says there is a radio endorsment for a cdl. i hold a cdl by the way. kudos to you for holding a cdl. heres a link to the federal motor carrier safety administrations page on the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm bryan .

From : matt worthington

matt worthington wrote mgg wrote funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. there is no cdl with a radio endorsement. wrong! you were too stupid to pass the test for a cdl radio endorsement so you deny that one exists. matt you may want to re-read your own posts with an open mind. you come across as a whiny crying bitch. just because there is no reference anywhere to a cdl radio endorsement you seem to be offended. is it because you were duped into paying extra for an endorsement that means nothing to anyone except yourself you must have graduated at the top of your class. one of one. now that is funny coming from a trailer park dwelling high school drop out. the radio endorsement on the cdl is free as it is considered a public service. you would have known that if you researched it before you shot your ignorant mouth off. matt .

From : matt worthington

polly erred somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly there is no such endorsement -- the fcc not the usdot has jurisdiction over radio communication in the us. cb and frs *might* be considered freeband since the licensing requirements were eliminated decades ago. however there are regulations still that apply to transmitter power mode frequency control etc for those services. the fcc still requires operators of transmitters in the amateur bands to hold valid amateur radio service licenses. thus it is not freeband. bryan amateur advanced class 1970 general commercial radiotelephone operator 1975 what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. shcotton more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm. bryan amateur advanced class 1970 general commercial radiotelephone operator 1975 that is an outdated link. matt .

From : matt worthington

somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly in 1998 if you had a radio endorsement on your cdl you were exempted from radar dectector laws. that is why you saw more truckers studying for the cdl radio endorsement. matt more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm bryan that is an outdated link and you were told by several people that the information on the cdl radio endorsement is found on the epa web site. do you want me to do everything for you next you will want someone to take the test for you. matt .

From : matt worthington

from mgg mike@pacbell.net funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. one of the longest threads in months just cause a guy doesnt want a ring on the roof of his truck. g. --mike lol.....i guess he got you. there is no such thing as a radio endorsement on a cdl. hank bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! wrong! there certainly is a radio endorsement for the cdl. you deny there is one for the simple reason you cannot pass the exam for one. matt more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm bryan you are obviously a troll or abnormally stupid. you were told by several people that the cdl radio endorsement information is found on the epa web site. next you will want someone to take the exam for you. and the link you are posting is outdated. matt .

From : dee d flint

bobby@kkelectsites.org writes several hf frequencies are used by coast-to-coast truckers. most popular cross country chit-chat frequencies are found in the 6 8 & 14 mhz ranges. in the freeband range 28120 khz is but one popular frequency. there are several others. cross country truckers prefer freeband channels above 28 mhz as they are less congested. hf is also a convenient way to stay in constant touch with moma back home too. the hf radio at home and in the truck are left on 24/7. kitchen radio frequencies can be found above 28 mhz and also in the 6 mhz band. without feeding the trolls this is exactly the kind of scofflaw behavior that infuriates the ham radio licensees the very people to whom several of these frequencies are authorized. imagine too how the hams must feel. they have studied and put forth an honest effort to pass licensing exams only to have their lawfully authorized privileges literally stolen from them and their frequency bands encroached upon by a bunch of renegades. if the democrats win back the white house in november sodapop and the gang can look forward to the fcc getting some long-awaited funding to resume stepped-up enforcement. how soon they forget the nationwide truck stop stings conducted back in the late 70s and 80s aimed at corralling the illegal amplifier trade. dunno how many otr drivers got caught but a good many shops had their merchandise seized and got hit with some hefty fines. history always has a way of repeating itself. who says that the dems will put the money into fcc enforcement im sure they will have other priorities for their tax increases. dee d. flint n8uze .

From : dee d flint

bobby@kkelectsites.org writes next year if teresa heinz-kerry can keep her elitist mouth shut long enough for her husband to get elected funding will be forthcoming and enforcement will get stepped up. soon therell be some trucker good buddies with long faces big fines and forfeited equipment. who says theyd put the money into fcc enforcement they have their own agenda and ive never seen any mention of radio. dee d. flint n8uze .

From : ninebal310

from bryan swadener hmm... at the bottom of the page it says last modified wednesday july 14 2004. bryan hi bryan this guy is a troll. he likes seeing what he types and dont really care if he is right or wrong. please accept the fact that he is fishing for an argument and let it rest. you are only encouraging him. you are right he is wrong let it go. hank .

From : butch johnson

hey matt are you still with tomsison transportation email me at my yahoo mailbox. jake wants to get you on staff here to teach the cdl radio endorsement. we are offering a $1000 bonus to any of the guys who earn their cdl radio endorsement prior to graduation. butch b.j. johnson chief instructor blue line big rig schools .

From : fmb

hey matt are you still with tomsison transportation email me at my yahoo mailbox. jake wants to get you on staff here to teach the cdl radio endorsement. we are offering a $1000 bonus to any of the guys who earn their cdl radio endorsement prior to graduation. butch b.j. johnson chief instructor blue line big rig schools lol more free fodder from the troll store. -- fmb only one b in fmb .

From : william

ive heard hi hi used on repeaters since before the invention of no-code techs so it is old fart blessed. no more so blessed than hearing profanity in places of public accomodation. the foul mouthed and the weak-minded will always be with us and we yes the royal wecan only do so much to deter it. len check this snit out! of is profanity and this guy is royalty. maybe too much in-breeding. one would hope that knowing better would rule the day however there will always be those who insist on being less than they can be if only to prove that they have the right to be stupid and weak minded. sorry hans mars is where i hail from. hi hi! hi hi. as i was saying... bwhahahahaha! meanwhile sorry hans mars.... gets the pass. good grief. bb excuse me...your real name...!! some chutzpah huh .

From : pee wee

the only two possible federal government //bullshit snipped here// crawl back under your rock you scumbag troll. .

From : pee wee

the only two possible federal government //bullshit snipped// crawl back under your rock. you scumbag troll. .

From : nosey

matt worthington wrote matt worthington wrote mgg wrote funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. there is no cdl with a radio endorsement. wrong! you were too stupid to pass the test for a cdl radio endorsement so you deny that one exists. matt you may want to re-read your own posts with an open mind. you come across as a whiny crying bitch. just because there is no reference anywhere to a cdl radio endorsement you seem to be offended. is it because you were duped into paying extra for an endorsement that means nothing to anyone except yourself you must have graduated at the top of your class. one of one. now that is funny coming from a trailer park dwelling high school drop out. the radio endorsement on the cdl is free as it is considered a public service. you would have known that if you researched it before you shot your ignorant mouth off. matt well you are partly right. i didnt research it and i did shoot my mouth off. i dont live in a trailer park and i did graduate high school. .

From : Annonymous

kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com writes well you are partly right. i didnt research it and i did shoot my mouth off. i dont live in a trailer park and i did graduate high school. excuse me you say you did graduate high school okay all you cunning linguists ;- wouldnt it be more grammatically correct to state that you did graduate *from* high school i hear many people say it the other way all the time and to me it sounds like trailer park gibberish. from time to time i also hear other frontier trailer park gibberish such as pronouncing bush as boosh and dishes as deeshes and fish as feesh. has anyone ever heard of the word mississippi being spelled em aye crookyletter crookyletter aye crookyletter crookyletter aye humpback humpback aye .

From : roy

kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com writes well you are partly right. i didnt research it and i did shoot my mouth off. i dont live in a trailer park and i did graduate high school. excuse me you say you did graduate high school okay all you cunning linguists ;- wouldnt it be more grammatically correct to state that you did graduate *from* high school i hear many people say it the other way all the time and to me it sounds like trailer park gibberish. from time to time i also hear other frontier trailer park gibberish such as pronouncing bush as boosh bush is usually pronounced idiot .

From : jj

matt worthington wrote somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly in 1998 if you had a radio endorsement on your cdl you were exempted from radar dectector laws. that is why you saw more truckers studying for the cdl radio endorsement. matt more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm bryan that is an outdated link and you were told by several people that the information on the cdl radio endorsement is found on the epa web site. do you want me to do everything for you next you will want someone to take the test for you. matt since that page was last modified july 14 2004 i hardly think it is outdated. if so why dont you give us a more current link that explains how one goes about getting a radio endorsement for a cdl. and just what does the enviornmental protection agency have to do with a cdl .

From : yellow belley kerry

flush the johns in 2004 vote for bush .

From : bryan swadener

polly erred somebody wanted to know about the radio endorsement on your cdl. the radio endorsement on your cdl will allow you to operate on freeband ham radio cb frs and company trucking frequencies. not a bad deal! study guides for the radio endorsement are sold at most interstate truck stops. polly there is no such endorsement -- the fcc not the usdot has jurisdiction over radio communication in the us. cb and frs *might* be considered freeband since the licensing requirements were eliminated decades ago. however there are regulations still that apply to transmitter power mode frequency control etc for those services. the fcc still requires operators of transmitters in the amateur bands to hold valid amateur radio service licenses. thus it is not freeband. bryan amateur advanced class 1970 general commercial radiotelephone operator 1975 what group are you posting from certainly not a trucker group or you would know just how stupid you sound. the cdl radio endorsement has been around for years and allows wide use of the spectrum to include freeband ham bands & many other frequencies. wish you amateurs would get a clue. shcotton more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm. bryan amateur advanced class 1970 general commercial radiotelephone operator 1975 that is an outdated link. matt hmm... at the bottom of the page it says last modified wednesday july 14 2004. bryan .

From : bryan swadener

from mgg mike@pacbell.net funny how a google search for the exact term cdl radio endorsement comes up with exactly zero hits. neither did spelling out cdl. one of the longest threads in months just cause a guy doesnt want a ring on the roof of his truck. g. --mike lol.....i guess he got you. there is no such thing as a radio endorsement on a cdl. hank bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! wrong! there certainly is a radio endorsement for the cdl. you deny there is one for the simple reason you cannot pass the exam for one. matt more hyperbole. this page on the website for the federal motor carrier safety administration covers the classes and endorsements for the cdl http//www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyprogs/cdl.htm bryan you are obviously a troll or abnormally stupid. you were told by several people that the cdl radio endorsement information is found on the epa web site. next you will want someone to take the exam for you. and the link you are posting is outdated. matt the only two possible federal government agencies that would have concern regarding commercial trucking and/or radio transmission would be the dot and/or fcc. the epa has nothing more to do with either with the exception of emissions from the exhaust pipes of vehicles. notwithstanding your observations about me at the bottom of the page i cited it says last modified wednesday july 14 2004. ive found what *appears* to be all the pertinent information regarding classes of licenses and endorsements. to support your side of the argument youve offered *only your own word* that a radio endorsement exists for the cdl. thusfar youve not supplied any form of official in the way of any .gov website url text to support your argument. and several people telling me that a cdl radio endorsement exists *does not* make it fact. bryan .

From : mac davis

on 05 aug 2004 143026 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote who says that the dems will put the money into fcc enforcement seems there are a bunch of people who think kerry actually cares about something other than himself sad very sad did he mention that he was in the military *gag* mac .

From : roy

roy wrote bush is usually pronounced idiot maybe maybe not but he is the best idiot we have around for the job at hand. jerry hmmm... i guess if he is your idiot ya gotta like him. i happen to like my idiot better than i like yours. g roy .

From : redneck tookover hell

did he mention that he was in the military *gag* im not sure i think he may have mentioned in passing that he was in vietnam though puke i have a buddy up here who was on those swift boats and hes joined the swift boat veterns for the truth politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : jerry

roy wrote bush is usually pronounced idiot maybe maybe not but he is the best idiot we have around for the job at hand. jerry .

From : jerry

redneck tookover hell wrote did he mention that he was in the military *gag* im not sure i think he may have mentioned in passing that he was in vietnam though he may have been there but he didnt serve there. at least not in the manner that most veterans did. jerry .

From : tbone

i hope that you are talking about bush oh thats right he didnt even complete his stay. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving redneck tookover hell wrote did he mention that he was in the military *gag* im not sure i think he may have mentioned in passing that he was in vietnam though he may have been there but he didnt serve there. at least not in the manner that most veterans did. jerry .

From : tbone

roy wrote bush is usually pronounced idiot maybe maybe not but he is the best idiot we have around for the job at hand. lol only in your wildest dreams. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : mac davis

on fri 06 aug 2004 230737 gmt jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote redneck tookover hell wrote did he mention that he was in the military *gag* im not sure i think he may have mentioned in passing that he was in vietnam though he may have been there but he didnt serve there. at least not in the manner that most veterans did. jerry hell i spent 2 years there does that mean i should be president lmao mac .

From : roy

on fri 06 aug 2004 230737 gmt jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote redneck tookover hell wrote did he mention that he was in the military *gag* im not sure i think he may have mentioned in passing that he was in vietnam though he may have been there but he didnt serve there. at least not in the manner that most veterans did. jerry hell i spent 2 years there does that mean i should be president lmao hell if thats the case bro can i be your vice president cause i wasnt there as long as you. bgf roy mac .