axle gear
From : back wood farmer
Q: looking for a new set ring & pinion for a 2005 3500 4x4 we have 410 now lower 3 highway we have all kinds of power just the rpms are to high at high speed. .
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From : snoman
on mon 3 jul 2006 081026 -0700 big al sal1@qwest.net wrote contrary to what snoman says many ctds came with 3.55 axles. they seem to do just fine. changing ring and pinions is expensive not for many years have they offered a 3.55 and when they did the engines had a lot lower rated output too. some the juggler gears and tire sizes give no thought to possible side effects on drive lines because with taller gears and bigger tires besides the engine having to make more torque to put same effort on ground at rear wheels the drive line has to route it there and carry a higher average torque load too. if you have a ctd and never plan to pull any thing heavy then a 3.42 or even taller could work but towing with those gears will place a big strain on tranny. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : tom lawrence
not for many years have they offered a 3.55 if by many you mean since 2003 then yes - that would be correct. however 3.54 has been the standard axle ratio for the dana70/dana80 axles used behind the ctd as late as 2002 and since at least 1994 if not further back dont really have a lot of experience with the 1st gen trucks so i tend not to comment about them... something you should take note of. .
From : big al
not for many years have they offered a 3.55 if by many you mean since 2003 then yes - that would be correct. however 3.54 has been the standard axle ratio for the dana70/dana80 axles used behind the ctd as late as 2002 and since at least 1994 if not further back dont really have a lot of experience with the 1st gen trucks so i tend not to comment about them... something you should take note of. my neighbor has a six speed 02 with 3.55 gears. hes burning cooking oil and getting 22 mpg. hauls a large goose neck horse trailer all over the place. wish i could have bought my 04 with 3.55s. mostly i tow an open car trailer my truck runs away with it. when i do pull my 24 enclosed trailer is the only time i feel 3.73s are about right. with 3.55s i could just drop back to 5th and get by fine. i cant see any reason for 4.11 gears with a new ctd. ive towed a 6 ton trailer with no problems starting on hills are cruising up them. al .
From : bigironram
not for many years have they offered a 3.55 if by many you mean since 2003 then yes - that would be correct. however 3.54 has been the standard axle ratio for the dana70/dana80 axles used behind the ctd as late as 2002 and since at least 1994 if not further back dont really have a lot of experience with the 1st gen trucks so i tend not to comment about them... something you should take note of. 3.54 was standard with the advent of overdrive automatics. before that dodge used as high as 3.07 with the ctd. thats true whether auto or standard transmission. my current 01 has 4.10s with gearvendors seems an ideal combination. robert .
From : snoman
on 3 jul 2006 072500 -0700 back wood farmer peterjr@grm.net wrote looking for a new set ring & pinion for a 2005 3500 4x4 we have 410 now lower 3 highway we have all kinds of power just the rpms are to high at high speed. the next step down is a 3.73. if you have a ctd this is a viable option i would not go lower though because it would add a lot more strain to tranny if it is a gas engiened truck you will not gain anything with the swap and will likely see performance and mpg suffer. also if it is a ctd it uses the same rear axle as gm has used in its big block and dmax powered trucks since 2001 a 11.5 aam so gears are readily availble for it ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : big al
on 3 jul 2006 072500 -0700 back wood farmer peterjr@grm.net wrote looking for a new set ring & pinion for a 2005 3500 4x4 we have 410 now lower 3 highway we have all kinds of power just the rpms are to high at high speed. the next step down is a 3.73. if you have a ctd this is a viable option i would not go lower though because it would add a lot more strain to tranny if it is a gas engiened truck you will not gain anything with the swap and will likely see performance and mpg suffer. also if it is a ctd it uses the same rear axle as gm has used in its big block and dmax powered trucks since 2001 a 11.5 aam so gears are readily availble for it ----------------- the snoman and since its a 4x4 you need to change the front axle ratio too. contrary to what snoman says many ctds came with 3.55 axles. they seem to do just fine. changing ring and pinions is expensive al .
From : mac davis
hello all and thanks for the info what we have is a 2005 3500 4x4 quad cab diesel 6 speed manual with 17 tires. what the trouble is when at speed of 75 the rpms are at 2.75 and red line is at 4 would like to take this down. we have all kinds of power even when pulling a 40 ft trailer can you guys tell what would be the best size ring and pinion to replace with peter .
From : mac davis
on mon 03 jul 2006 191828 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote dont really have a lot of experience with the 1st gen trucks so i tend not to comment about them... something you should take note of. ouch! ..... that was close to center ring... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .
From : back wood farmer
on mon 03 jul 2006 220459 -0400 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on sat 01 jul 2006 205422 gmt hrl hiletroynotthis@orthismyrealbox.com wrote my questions what is the likely long term result of running this engine for say 500 miles in this condition of restricted exhaust outlet what is the chances that there is a lot of deposit buildup inside it what is the best way to clean these deposits out if they are there what about the chatter under heavy load can not having the cat. converter in the exhaust system have changed the engine to the extent that i need a gas booster or to go to a higher octane level gas any help or thoughts will be appreciated. first things first - about the valve chatter under load. if it is under load more likely than not you have spark knock or ping. try a tank of premium fuel and see if it is better. if so you need to find out why/ if your egr is not working that could be part of it. or you could have a good dose of carbon in the cyls. if the premium does not solve it it may be valve lifters. change the oil. put in10w30 or 10w40 with one quart of marvel mystery oil and see if it gets better in about half an hour of driving. if the premium makes it better put a can of fuel injector cleaner in the tank and/or get a can of combustion chamber cleaner your gm dealer will have it your chrysler dealer should.follow the instructions on the can. the lack of the converter will not cause an engine to require higher octane fuel but a 318 with 188000 on it may very well like mid premium. i havent tried the premium fuel yet and just yesterday bought sparkplugs pcv valve oil filter and oil air filter a can of mystery oil for the crankcase and maybe down the intake a can of premium gumout fuel and engine cleaner. gonna do all that tomorrow or thurs. and will report back with the results. thanks for the ideas....and the reassurance...lol -- hrl never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups e-mail munged--remove the obvious .
From : tom lawrence
i know well that early ones had 3.54 but they stopped using it when they went to aam axle in 03 so 3 years to you is many because the early cummins did not like to rev much at all dead at around 2300 rpm or so as i recall fascinating. hey max... did you know your engines supposed to fall on its face at 2300rpm i bet my buddy with his 95 12v sure would find that statement curious - as im fairly certain he revs his out to 3200-3300rpm before each shift the guy drives like a maniac what can i tell you. because i drove several 93 and 94 models on some steep long mountain passes when i was comparing trucks back then. sure you did... .
From : mac davis
on tue 4 jul 2006 213046 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote wtf!! ive been outa here for 10 days and your bs is worse. give us a damn break with your never ending phony info. so how was florida bro mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .
From : roy
on tue 4 jul 2006 213046 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote wtf!! ive been outa here for 10 days and your bs is worse. give us a damn break with your never ending phony info. so how was florida bro bro it was fantastic!! a bit more crowded than the last time i was there but no big deal. signed a p&s on a place and will close on it next month. it is in flagler beach about 15 miles north of daytona and id guess 3 miles from the beach driving. sue was a bit hesitate but figures as a investment all was cool. she kinda moves at a slower pace than i do which isnt a bad thing but is warming to the idea. so this makes up my mind as far as retireing next year. hell by then ill have 35 years in playing with locomotives its time. anyway it is not near as much fun as it used to be. way too much bs. sue on the other hand has 5 more years to go to recieve here pension. but she is off all summer and has weeks off throughout the year so she will float back and forth and ill do the same until shes done with teaching. then we sell this house here in ma and at her suggestion look at buying a boat. damn i love that girl!! roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .
From : mac davis
on wed 5 jul 2006 114031 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 4 jul 2006 213046 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote wtf!! ive been outa here for 10 days and your bs is worse. give us a damn break with your never ending phony info. so how was florida bro bro it was fantastic!! a bit more crowded than the last time i was there but no big deal. signed a p&s on a place and will close on it next month. it is in flagler beach about 15 miles north of daytona and id guess 3 miles from the beach driving. sue was a bit hesitate but figures as a investment all was cool. she kinda moves at a slower pace than i do which isnt a bad thing but is warming to the idea. so this makes up my mind as far as retireing next year. hell by then ill have 35 years in playing with locomotives its time. anyway it is not near as much fun as it used to be. way too much bs. sue on the other hand has 5 more years to go to recieve here pension. but she is off all summer and has weeks off throughout the year so she will float back and forth and ill do the same until shes done with teaching. then we sell this house here in ma and at her suggestion look at buying a boat. damn i love that girl!! roy sounds like some good planning... hope all goes well for ya.. will one of the places be paid off or will you have payments on both mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .
From : tom lawrence
what the trouble is when at speed of 75 the rpms are at 2.75 and red line is at 4 would like to take this down. peter... just for my understanding... youre making 2000 to 2100 rpm in 6th gear at 75 rpm im confused a bit too - seeing as how the redline is at 3200rpm for a ctd not 4000rpm. if hes turning 2750rpms at 75mph then im guessing hes got a dually with the 235/70r17s a g56 6-speed trans with a .791 top gear and 4.10s in the axles. on my calculator that works out to 2730rpms close enough. swapping to 3.73s will bring those rpms down to just under 2500 2484 to be exact. a 3.54 will drop it another 100rpm. another option which really gives the best of all worlds and isnt that much more than re-gearing both axles is a gear vendors overdrive unit. with this you get an extra overdrive which will effectively give you a ..621 top gear yielding 2130rpms at 75mph with the current tire/axle combination. see http//www.gearvendors.com for details. .
From : snoman
on mon 03 jul 2006 191828 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote however 3.54 has been the standard axle ratio for the dana70/dana80 axles used behind the ctd as late as 2002 and since at least 1994 if not further back dont really have a lot of experience with the 1st gen trucks so i tend not to comment about them... something you should take note of. i know well that early ones had 3.54 but they stopped using it when they went to aam axle in 03 because it is not supported in the front 9.25 aam axle either starting in 03 when they dumped the dana .you should take note of this. they had to use a taller ratio back then to because the early cummins did not like to rev much at all dead at around 2300 rpm or so as i recall because i drove several 93 and 94 models on some steep long mountain passes when i was comparing trucks back then. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : christopher thompson
i know well that early ones had 3.54 but they stopped using it when they went to aam axle in 03 so 3 years to you is many because the early cummins did not like to rev much at all dead at around 2300 rpm or so as i recall fascinating. hey max... did you know your engines supposed to fall on its face at 2300rpm i bet my buddy with his 95 12v sure would find that statement curious - as im fairly certain he revs his out to 3200-3300rpm before each shift the guy drives like a maniac what can i tell you. glad i dont pay his fuel bill!!! my lead foot is bad enough! *grin* because i drove several 93 and 94 models on some steep long mountain passes when i was comparing trucks back then. sure you did... -- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs .
From : christopher thompson
on mon 03 jul 2006 191828 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote however 3.54 has been the standard axle ratio for the dana70/dana80 axles used behind the ctd as late as 2002 and since at least 1994 if not further back dont really have a lot of experience with the 1st gen trucks so i tend not to comment about them... something you should take note of. i know well that early ones had 3.54 but they stopped using it when they went to aam axle in 03 because it is not supported in the front 9.25 aam axle either starting in 03 when they dumped the dana .you should take note of this. they had to use a taller ratio back then to because the early cummins did not like to rev much at all dead at around 2300 rpm or so as i recall because i drove several 93 and 94 models on some steep long mountain passes when i was comparing trucks back then. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com give me a break!!! -- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs .
From : roy
on wed 5 jul 2006 114031 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 4 jul 2006 213046 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote wtf!! ive been outa here for 10 days and your bs is worse. give us a damn break with your never ending phony info. so how was florida bro bro it was fantastic!! a bit more crowded than the last time i was there but no big deal. signed a p&s on a place and will close on it next month. it is in flagler beach about 15 miles north of daytona and id guess 3 miles from the beach driving. sue was a bit hesitate but figures as a investment all was cool. she kinda moves at a slower pace than i do which isnt a bad thing but is warming to the idea. so this makes up my mind as far as retireing next year. hell by then ill have 35 years in playing with locomotives its time. anyway it is not near as much fun as it used to be. way too much bs. sue on the other hand has 5 more years to go to recieve here pension. but she is off all summer and has weeks off throughout the year so she will float back and forth and ill do the same until shes done with teaching. then we sell this house here in ma and at her suggestion look at buying a boat. damn i love that girl!! roy sounds like some good planning... hope all goes well for ya.. we thought it out as best we could. im sure there will be a few surprises but ya gotta take your shot when it feels good. will one of the places be paid off or will you have payments on both the house here has been paid off and weve been getting killed by the taxman. we decided to buy the place in fl. with a equity line on the house in ma. so actually the house in fl. will be paid for and a lein on the house in ma. figure we can write off a piece of the equity line and a trip to fl. a year. gotta sit down with the accountant and here what his thoughts are. roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .
From : mac davis
on 7 jul 2006 072237 -0700 ferrari3@gmail.com wrote hi all how do i turn off the check engine light the car wont pass inspection with it on. i tried disconnecting the battery but nothing happened. i found some check engine code readers/erasers on ebay here http//stores.ebay.com/onesmartmove has anyone tried similar one thanks it is very difficult to pass inspection with obd ii if you reset the codes by disconnecting the battery or any other means if your vehicle has a problem. the reason is that most states scan the ecm for fault codes in which case it wont pass if they are present. if the ecm has been cleared the vehicle has to be driven through enough cycles for the ecm to determine that nothing is wrong. if the vehicle is presented before the ecm has been through these cycles the scanner will indicate that to the inspector and it will be declined until all the flags have been reset. during this time it is most likely that any hard fault will reset a code. you can buy a scanner if you like but if the vehicle is not repaired it wont likely pass inspection until the problem is corrected. the scanner will help track down to problem and allow you to reset the fault codes once repairs have been completed. if the repair was not effective it will reset the code during the driving cycles to reset the flags. yes the system is stacked against you. that is because so many people in the past preferred to ignore problems with their vehicles emission system. lugnut .
From : roy
on mon 03 jul 2006 191828 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote however 3.54 has been the standard axle ratio for the dana70/dana80 axles used behind the ctd as late as 2002 and since at least 1994 if not further back dont really have a lot of experience with the 1st gen trucks so i tend not to comment about them... something you should take note of. i know well that early ones had 3.54 but they stopped using it when they went to aam axle in 03 because it is not supported in the front 9.25 aam axle either starting in 03 when they dumped the dana .you should take note of this. they had to use a taller ratio back then to because the early cummins did not like to rev much at all dead at around 2300 rpm or so as i recall because i drove several 93 and 94 models on some steep long mountain passes when i was comparing trucks back then. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com wtf!! ive been outa here for 10 days and your bs is worse. give us a damn break with your never ending phony info. .
From : mac davis
on fri 7 jul 2006 121053 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote damn... the closer we get the more questions/details pop up... i never knew how many friggin decisions you had to make when you built a house! bro the thing is that at our age ya have to write all the stuff down or ya forget where the hell your at. roy hmm... running low on ram and have to write to the hard drive huh *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .
From : roy
on thu 6 jul 2006 160841 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote sounds like some good planning... hope all goes well for ya.. we thought it out as best we could. im sure there will be a few surprises but ya gotta take your shot when it feels good. will one of the places be paid off or will you have payments on both the house here has been paid off and weve been getting killed by the taxman. we decided to buy the place in fl. with a equity line on the house in ma. so actually the house in fl. will be paid for and a lein on the house in ma. figure we can write off a piece of the equity line and a trip to fl. a year. gotta sit down with the accountant and here what his thoughts are. roy thats sort of our plan too.. building the first house that well move in to as soon as its done with savings and equity line on the house in ca.. as soon as we move the house in ca gets sold and the proceeds used to build the 2nd rental house.. damn... the closer we get the more questions/details pop up... i never knew how many friggin decisions you had to make when you built a house! bro the thing is that at our age ya have to write all the stuff down or ya forget where the hell your at. roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .