all Dodges have junk for trannies?????

From : beekeep

Q: does anyone know if i were to add an automatic transmission oil cooler on my own to my 2003 dakota if it would void the warranty from what i read it would be cheaper to do it myself and does not sound that hard once i figure out where it mounts. steve dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail .

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From : mrdancer

i found a set of 20 inch rims/tires fs from a 2003. im wondering if the overall hieght is the same or near to the stock p225/75/16s om my 96 1500 they look a little taller. i definately dont want more ground clearance or speedo error. tx .

From : lee bower

im looking for a dana 44 or dana 60 front axle for 98 dodge ram. also looking for a complete cab for 98 dodge ram ext-cab. i can be contacted at i have a new e-mail address and phone number that i can be reached at. badnjgmc@yahoo.com or 973-476-7008 thanks again sorry for the inconvience .

From : redneck tookover hellclare snyder on ca

. i actually wonder if they use the some motor-mounts i would think that would be a cost savings in production. no mounts and transmission bellhousing patterns are unique a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .

From : jerry

gary glaenzer wrote personal attack snipped you have proven beyond all doubt that you prefer personal attacks to facts good bye translation ............... i screw up and made a ass of myself with no way out. what else is new. jerry .

From : miles

does anyone know if i were to add an automatic transmission oil cooler on my own to my 2003 dakota if it would void the warranty from what i read it would be cheaper to do it myself and does not sound that hard once i figure out where it mounts. steve dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail .

From : smurfy

i average 11.2mpg city 14mpg hwy on my 03 hemi qc 2wd just past the 2000 mile mark. -brian today i did it! 18.85 mpg. ram 1500 2wd with 4.7l 5 speed auto. 65 mph avg and tonneau cover. it almost made the epa rating of 19. the truck is a 2003 with 4700 miles. whats everyones record .

From : oerclockd proc

thanks for the help! i think you have convinced me that an upgrade to the infinity is not worth the effort. i think ill shop around. any suggestions on stock sized speakers .

From : roy

dealer only sells the entire taillight assembly is there an aftermarket source for lenses only so far no luck at local junkyards but ill keep trying if theres no alternative. regards martin .

From : denny

on wed 16 jul 2003 191242 -0500 dale simpson daleandlaura@charter.net wrote i just bought a 98 dakota and when my neighbor saw ithe is also a dodge owner he said i hope you have a spare couple of grand because you are gonna have to replace that tranny. is there even a grain of truth to his assertion that all dodge trucks have substandard transmissions i looked the truck up on some kind of consumer reporting website before i bought it and they said that it was a pretty much trouble free truck. please tell me that my tranny isnt destined to fail! the only other dodge i have ever owned is a 84 ram charger and i loved that truck with that big ole 360 and extra large tires wish i still had it but the mileage sucked and i travel a lot for work. any input from this group of dodge lovers will be greatly appreciated! dale simpson three in mine while under warranty. the forth was a rebuild by aamco for about $2500. the fifth was on aamco as i bought the lifetime waranty. over 100000 miles on this one. beekeep .

From : hodad

on wed 16 jul 2003 191242 -0500 dale simpson daleandlaura@charter.net wrote i just bought a 98 dakota and when my neighbor saw ithe is also a dodge owner he said i hope you have a spare couple of grand because you are gonna have to replace that tranny. is there even a grain of truth to his assertion that all dodge trucks have substandard transmissions i looked the truck up on some kind of consumer reporting website before i bought it and they said that it was a pretty much trouble free truck. please tell me that my tranny isnt destined to fail! the only other dodge i have ever owned is a 84 ram charger and i loved that truck with that big ole 360 and extra large tires wish i still had it but the mileage sucked and i travel a lot for work. any input from this group of dodge lovers will be greatly appreciated! dale simpson three in mine while under warranty. the forth was a rebuild by aamco for about $2500. the fifth was on aamco as i bought the lifetime waranty. over 100000 miles on this one. beekeep and my 95 has 87000 on it plowing snow working around the farm everyday transportation and has not yet been farther apart than changing the fluid and filter. denny .

From : paul jensen

remove wrote does anyone know if i were to add an automatic transmission oil cooler on my own to my 2003 dakota if it would void the warranty from what i read it would be cheaper to do it myself and does not sound that hard once i figure out where it mounts. not sure why your question showed up 7 times but heres my thought. you will not void your warranty by adding aftermarket parts. what will void a warranty is if that new part causes some other warranted part to fail. the burden of proof is on the auto manufacture and not you. say you install a cooler and then the tranny fails. dealer says the cooler caused the tranny to fail so they wont warrant it. in order for the dealer to make that claim they must show proof the cooler caused the damage. they can not just say so. that would involve independent analysis paid for by the manufacture although id pay for a seperate analysis myself to rule out bias. .

From : gary glaenzer

i just bought a 98 dakota and when my neighbor saw ithe is also a dodge owner he said i hope you have a spare couple of grand because you are gonna have to replace that tranny. is there even a grain of truth to his assertion that all dodge trucks have substandard transmissions i looked the truck up on some kind of consumer reporting website before i bought it and they said that it was a pretty much trouble free truck. please tell me that my tranny isnt destined to fail! the only other dodge i have ever owned is a 84 ram charger and i loved that truck with that big ole 360 and extra large tires wish i still had it but the mileage sucked and i travel a lot for work. any input from this group of dodge lovers will be greatly appreciated! dale simpson i recently purchased an 01 dakota 27k miles and have the same concern. i have had the fluid analyzed and it was good. i plan on changing the fluid at 30k miles. i can get a 150k tranny warranty from the vendor if i change the fluid every 30k miles. considering the cost of a tranny i consider that a good deal and plan to do it. .

From : ignoramus28006

thought i would jump into this with my question. i have a 97 1/2 ton 4x4 with 5.9 and overdrive auto. i looked on the mopar performance web site for a performance computer and didnt see one. did i just miss it or did they skip this year for some reason theyve discontinued many of the 4x4 performance computers for some reason. check with these guys - they can get em http//www.krcperformance.com/newcontent/pcm.html .

From : beekeep

smithsonian we never left the room bro!! at your age was there really that much on tv to watch bg denny have to give the furry sob credit mac that was damn funny. roy hmm.... sorry about the double post it wasnt that funny.g roy .

From : m g

saydee47@hotmail.com oerclockd proc wrote in could you clarify the different setups of the infinity sound system from what ive read it seems that it has changed a few times from 98 to 03. some have said that there is a pre-amp built into the back of the raz head unit if you have the infinity system. i have heard that there is an amp located in the passenger kick panel. i have seen pics of the premium infinity speakers both with and with out amps built into the speakers. regardless i like the stock look of the raz unit and would not put an aftermarket hu in. i can only tell you about the 03 which is what im familiar with. the raz head is the raz head period. its basically an oem unit with about 5 watts rms per channel x 4. it has speaker outs and no preamp outs. theres a provision for a cd changer and steering wheel controls but thats about it. in and of itself it has nothing to do with the infinity premium sound package. the infinity premium sound package consists of an outboard amp located in the passenger kick panel and infinity speakers. make no mistake about it - the speakers in this package are way below the standards for infinitys aftermarket line. granted the fronts are component type i.e. a tweeter and woofer with a passive crossover but theyre sub-standard compared to their aftermarket stuff. the rear speakers are just co-axials with the woofer running full range and a capacitor on the tweeter. lame-sounding at best. the infinity amp about 15 watts rms per channel x 4 is very heavily eqd to compensate for the lack of frequency response in the speakers the end result being that youll hear enhanced tone from the system in general at lower volumes. as soon as you get to around 18 or so on the volume the built-in loudness curve starts to disappear and the tone starts getting pretty raw. above 22 on the volume display and youre probably getting some audible distortion. bottom line if you like the raz head buy an aftermarket amp and some decent speakers. you can get speaker adapters for the doors and rears if need be. figure at least $350-$400 for an amp and speakers. if you dont want to go with an amp then at least spring for high- efficiency 92db spl speakers. hth. regards joe .

From : nathan s shirey

must be my group server works like most daimlerchrysler products. the message was posted only once and failed the 6 other times. on thu 17 jul 2003 092525 gmt jacob suter jsuter@intrastar.net wrote does anyone know if i were to add an automatic transmission oil cooler on my own to my 2003 dakota if it would void the warranty from what i read it would be cheaper to do it myself and does not sound that hard once i figure out where it mounts. steve dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail if you mount your cooler like you post in groups you are in trouble! 7 tranny coolers in a row might run pretty cool... might even keep an a4ld from smoking ; js dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail .

From : mulatz

my 5 speed 98 dakota had to have a new transmision put in after 58k. everything felt fine on the truck until one day. i went to downshift shift out of 5th into 3rd. i couldnt get it out of 5th gear. long story short. the 5th gear itself had a hairline crack in it. the service manager at dodge said hed never seen that before. i ended getting a tranny with 40k and put that in. sold it 20k miles later. i loved it though still have a dodge. .

From : cuervojose

on my 1999 2500 model there is a spacer on right front between wheel and brake rotor. i dont know if one should be in place for 01 model but do know that 99 model without one pulls to right. lew on thu 17 jul 2003 150549 -0500 bob m ram1220@vzavenue.net wrote can anyone help i took my 01 ram 2 wheel drive to discount tire on saturday and had 4 new tires put on the truck. i left their lot and the truck pulls to the right. so back i went. they crossed the 2 front tires and it still pulled to the right. so im thinking alignment. although before i went to discount tire the truck was not pulling left or right. so i take the truck to a local dodge dealer. dealer says alignment is within specs. i then took it to an indepedent shop. i know the guy and trust him. he says the truck is within specs too. so back to discount tire i went. they put another 4 new tires on the truck. supposedly a better tire. damn truck still pulls to the right. so at this point im not sure what to do next. its not a severe pull but i know my truck and its not right. when i apply the brakes there is no difference in the pull. so i dont think its a stuck caliper. not sure about a wheel bearing but there isnt any noise. can anyone help me out on this one thanks. bob .

From : jerry

on wed 16 jul 2003 022544 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@streetpony.com wrote mac davis macdavis@nospam.attbi.com wrote on tue 15 jul 2003 145923 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote vacation has arrived.waited all year for this!! am i going anywhere no friggin way! the addition project that started in jan is wrapping up these next two weeks so i gotta be around. ill grab one day next week for a trip to maine but thats it. while im whining no pool either. what really pisss me off is that red was right. okay im done. roy roy... if ya can spare a few days id really recommend trying what my wife & i did last weekend... get on the web and look for hotel deals in your area.... we got a great room that shoulda been $175 a night for $130 for 2 nights... it was about 20 miles from home but nobody knew where we were going... no phones kids pets etc... just 2 days together on the cheap.. you deserve it bro!! sounds like you two were having a second honey moon dale hmm... prob more like the 3rd or 4th but yeah that was kind of the idea... and it was a lot more comfortable than camping! .

From : roy

do i understand it right that people with problem trannies did not have a trans cooler. i have 49k miles on my dodge and it has a tranny cooler. so far the transmission is okay. unfortunately i did not change transmission fluid until 48k miles or so. it did look fine however. at times i do tow heavy loads 4000 or so lb boat+trailer but infrequently. i you might first want to install a transmission temp. gauge to determine if you need anything additional. its a good thing to have anyway. you can put an additional cooler on if you feel the need. or put a double deep pan on it and thus increase the amount of fluid. you arent moving much so the pan might do it for ya. it will probably drop the temp15 degrees. i thought about installing the gauge myself... i will also install a drain plug on my transmission pan so that i can change trans fluid easily more often. i will thusly change fluid at every 10000 mile interval every year for me and change fuild plus filter every 20k miles. will make things easier. i will probably do all that next time i change the fluid about a year from now. thanks. i .

From : beekeep

on thu 17 jul 2003 184914 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote also he is probably real pissed off cause harvick ran out of gas sundayg roy you had to bring that up didnt you. hes going to win one yet. im hoping atlanta as i will be there on my way for some r&r in the keys. beekeep .

From : beekeep

wow after reading this i went and had my fluid changed at lunch. jiffy lube did a complete pump out and flush for 89 bucks i have 120000 miles on a 97 318 4wd and it has never been changed. it has the stock trans cooler and i have never had a problem i occasionally tow a utility trailer and had it loaded last weekend to the tune of 4600 pounds with no problem so there you have my 2 cents. i just bought a 98 dakota and when my neighbor saw ithe is also a dodge owner he said i hope you have a spare couple of grand because you are gonna have to replace that tranny. is there even a grain of truth to his assertion that all dodge trucks have substandard transmissions i looked the truck up on some kind of consumer reporting website before i bought it and they said that it was a pretty much trouble free truck. please tell me that my tranny isnt destined to fail! the only other dodge i have ever owned is a 84 ram charger and i loved that truck with that big ole 360 and extra large tires wish i still had it but the mileage sucked and i travel a lot for work. any input from this group of dodge lovers will be greatly appreciated! dale simpson .

From : hodad

on 17 jul 2003 150940 gmt ignoramus30093 ignoramus30093@nospam.30093.invalid wrote do i understand it right that people with problem trannies did not have a trans cooler. i have 49k miles on my dodge and it has a tranny cooler. so far the transmission is okay. unfortunately i did not change transmission fluid until 48k miles or so. it did look fine however. at times i do tow heavy loads 4000 or so lb boat+trailer but infrequently. i with my fifth rebuid i had a cooler added. no problems since for over 100k. it may be a co-inky-dink i dont know but for $100 i think it was worth it. beekeep .

From : Annonymous

does anyone know if i were to add an automatic transmission oil cooler on my own to my 2003 dakota if it would void the warranty from what i read it would be cheaper to do it myself and does not sound that hard once i figure out where it mounts. steve dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail if you mount your cooler like you post in groups you are in trouble! 7 tranny coolers in a row might run pretty cool... might even keep an a4ld from smoking ; js is there room for the 7 coolers now 8 i mean with the 7 k&n filters there might not be room. fmb .

From : budd cochran

miles unknown@unlisted.com wrote in oerclockd proc wrote thanks for the help! i think you have convinced me that an upgrade to the infinity is not worth the effort. i think ill shop around. any suggestions on stock sized speakers this is odd! when this topic has come up before most here have stated the same thing i found. the sound quality of the stock head unit is horrible. on my 1999 ram i swapped out the stock head unit with an alpine. even with the stock speakers the sound was very acceptable. no more massive distortion. on my 2001 ram with infinity speakers i again replaced the stock head unit and installed an alpine. again the sound was greatly improved to acceptable levels. i may change the speakers out someday but im happy with the current sound on both rams. the stock head unit was the culprit for the lousy sound. compared to an alpine sure the oem hu sucks. youre at least doubling the power and cutting the distortion at least in half. but op wants to keep the oem hu so his best solution is to replace the speakers which also suck big time. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies .

From : hodad

iirc a ho-daddy was a non-surfer a member of the establishment. budd hodad wrote glad i dont live in la then! i also remember the term hodad being used in a beach boys christmas song. part of the verse was all the hodads and grimmies. must have been a reference to surfer dudes. hd here in la a hodad is a dad with a family of hoes ;- now now ignorant one. a hodad is a tool used to fight wildfires in the forest. hd .

From : budd cochran

alright! that means im the man! i do work for the govment after all! ^ hd iirc a ho-daddy was a non-surfer a member of the establishment. budd hodad wrote glad i dont live in la then! i also remember the term hodad being used in a beach boys christmas song. part of the verse was all the hodads and grimmies. must have been a reference to surfer dudes. hd here in la a hodad is a dad with a family of hoes ;- now now ignorant one. a hodad is a tool used to fight wildfires in the forest. hd .

From : jr

i have an 03 ram 1500 club cab w/ hemi 3.92 rearend limited slip-20 wheels. the brochure stated that it was rated for 8900 lbs. the web site limits it to 7750. my brother has a gmc 1500 with the 5.3 engine. he is good for 8100 lbs. i thought dodge was best in class....what is the deal here marshall .

From : budd cochran

i have an 03 ram 1500 club cab w/ hemi 3.92 rearend limited slip-20 wheels. the brochure stated that it was rated for 8900 lbs. the web site limits it to 7750. my brother has a gmc 1500 with the 5.3 engine. he is good for 8100 lbs. i thought dodge was best in class....what is the deal here marshall you need more info and you have to compare apples to apples when an advertiser makes a claim you have to read between the lines different style trucks will have different ratings ex 2wd vs 4wd club cab vs standard cab gear ratios auto trans vs man trans certain engines add different options such as my v-10 adding a dana 80 rear axle instead of a dana 70 the advertised rating is probably one specific setup which you dont have you really need to check all the details and then you need to get the exact specs your gvwrgross vehicle weight rating and the gcvwr gross combined vehicle weight rating the first is the amount your entire truck can weigh incl the truck people cargo gas etc thats your max the other is is everything plus what you can tow ex. my truck weighs 6700lbs with my fat ass and my stuff and full gas tank my gvwr is 8800lbs that means i have 2100lbs to spare before i am overloaded my gcvwr is 19000lbs meaning i can still only put 2100lbs in my truck because i cant go over the 8800lbs but that still leaves me 10200lbs 19000-8800=10200 to spare for towing with the right equipment of course so you need to find out exactly what your specs are for your truck it should say it on the door sticker or in the glove box sticker i cant remember now.... 79 t/a ws6 455 hurst 4 spd blk w/ t-tops heavily fortified 4mpg 00 ram 2500hd qc v-10 4x4blk5 spd410 lsd 10mpg 98 intruder 1400 blk 5 spd 25mpg .

From : beekeep

hey f-450! how ya doin hi i am having a problem with my 2001 frieghtliner. i need to replace the oil pressure sensor. i ordered a new one and i am having problems locating the its on the drivers side of the engine just below the ecm and just in front of the lift pump. it should have a three-wire connector on it and be almost directly below the big 50-pin electrical connector on the ecm. told you the f450 was better! lol!i guess that explains my problem i figured the new part would help me locate it. the frieghliner dealer sent me a sensor with only one wire after they jerked me off and made me wait a week to ship it. so how is every one doing i just got a divorce a couple of days ago that always seemed to be a popular post in aadt take care all thanks for the help. .

From : cbhvac

joe yer wastin yer time! ive been saying in this ng for years that synthetic starts off life as crude just like dino oil but no one seems to listen... sigh.... my preference of course is to call dino conventional oil and synthetic synthetic but no one seems to want to adopt my convention. amen.. sigh..... i guess the folks that believe that synthetic is somehow not dino based also believe that keebler cookies come from hollow oak trees and are made by elves...... what omg....sniffle..sob...holds back a tear you mean...they are not lol wait till i see elvis...i am gonna ask him why he lied to me... ^ mike fwiw royal purple is made from dino. thier plant is about 12 miles from my house. more smoke and mirrors you probably bought that teflon stuff too. hot rod tv says whatever they get paid to say. but then its your money spend any way you please. dont get me wrong there are reasons to use syntheticmisnomer but not for everyday street use its a waste of money. just change your dino and filter every 3 to 4000 miles. joe devils advocate on fri 18 jul 2003 092635 gmt jay smith jaysmith@insightbb.com wrote one of the big problems with petroleum based engine oils is the hotter it gets the less able it is to prevent metal-to-metal contact its called thermal viscosity breakdown. however with royal purple synthetic oil the stability of the oil is far superior so when this motor gets hot you dont have that kind of problem. - hot rod tv you can go to www.royalpurple.com and see the video it is at the bottom of the homepage. i use royal purple in my 02 4.7l dakota in the engine and front and rear differential. also in my lawnmower and i wouldnt think of using any other oil. not to be arguementative but on one of the hot rod shows on tnn last weekend they dynoed a 2001 ss camaro at 290hp at the rear wheels. then they drained the rear axle fluid the transmission fluid it was a 6-speed manual and the engine oil and replaced all of these fluids with the appropriate royal purple synthetic fluid. the result was an 11hp gain at the rear wheels on the same dyno. so i guess it would depend on what synthetic oil you buy. some of my friends swear by synthetic. -- steve - 03 ram 1500 qc 4x4. ignoramus26572 ignoramus26572@nospam.26572.invalid wrote in message thats the question... what do you think will my engine live longer or run better with synthetic i .

From : nunya

lee bower wrote okay gary since youre the king of cool whats cool among you and your friends i may not agree with mannys choice of style but at least he has some... kind of makes you wonder huh. hell its his money and his truck why the asshole remarks about him. well actually if you take a look at two them their appearance and what they drive then you can figure part of it out. the third one who the hell knows he gets bored every once in awhile i guess. oh those dice tails and curb feelers ........... that is just a reflection back to their teenage days while driving their daddys flat head plymouth. want to see style watch them scream back at this post. jerry -- character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. .

From : beekeep

while your at it throw in a k&n drop in. you will really feel the power w/ no muffler and a k&n! that should be worth 50hp. really i find it hard to believe there is that much of a noticeable difference w/o the muffler. but i bet it does sound mean! yeah no backpressure = less torque i believe. punch .

From : beekeep

you think this is good go to rec.outdoors.rv-travel and start a thread on tires pressures... ^ mike this is better than late nite tv. joe on sat 19 jul 2003 223841 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote hell go get a couple of those k$n thingys while your at it. figure its the weekend and id toss it into the mix.bfg dont forget the kabuki throttle body !!!!! didnt you hear the with a couple of the k&n thingys on top of each other ya dont need no throttle body. thats why nobody has heard from the kabuki folks. bfg roy .

From : redneck tookover hell

. they are still the basis for many drag transmissions - things like theclutchflyte. that is a long time ago clutchflytes havent been made in many many years. the parts to make one for a nostalgia drag race car are very hard to come by a fluid pump to keep the heat down when pulling a load in heavy traffic.. a separate fluid pump dont be silly just put the transmission in a lower gear .

From : clare snyder on ca

on thu 17 jul 2003 084816 -0600 mulatz cptnkjm@sasktel.net wrote the people i have talked to have all said that for as long as they remember dodge had some of the best engines and the crappiest trannies. you dont remember very far back then. the old 904 and 727 powerflyte transmissions were as durable and reliable as they came. they are still the basis for many drag transmissions - things like the clutchflyte. the old trannies had dual pumps where the newer ones only have front pumps - but other than the front wheel drive trannies mopar still has a pretty good box. if you are towing do yourself a favour and add both a fan cooled auxiliary cooler and a fluid pump to keep the heat down when pulling a load in heavy traffic.. of course if you baby the tranny it will keep for a long time which is what i intend to do. these statements were from people who work the trucks quite hard alot harder than i do. from factory the trannies may be a little weaker than some but no one can expect them to last forever. if mine gives me trouble its way off warantee then i intend to have it rebuilt as strong as possible so that it will last another 200000km. the tranny cooler sounds like a good idea to me just might take a look at that. kirk i just bought a 98 dakota and when my neighbor saw ithe is also a dodge owner he said i hope you have a spare couple of grand because you are gonna have to replace that tranny. is there even a grain of truth to his assertion that all dodge trucks have substandard transmissions i looked the truck up on some kind of consumer reporting website before i bought it and they said that it was a pretty much trouble free truck. please tell me that my tranny isnt destined to fail! the only other dodge i have ever owned is a 84 ram charger and i loved that truck with that big ole 360 and extra large tires wish i still had it but the mileage sucked and i travel a lot for work. any input from this group of dodge lovers will be greatly appreciated! dale simpson .

From : redneck tookover hell

on tue 23 sep 2003 025845 gmt fmb fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote mac did you get it its been a strange process..lol started looking for a popup 2 weeks ago... then decided on a hybrid... this weekend we decided to go conventional travel trailer... is a motor home next not!! we found a 26 tahoe we like a lot... waiting on house refi to go thru so we can get it.. on mon 22 sep 2003 003604 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote thanks gary... i printed your reply and will give the dealer a copy... if it were my truck a pair of tru-cool 4590s or 4454s if there is a lack of space mounted as close to the grille as far from the ac condenser as possible plumb up with hydraulic-type crimp-on fittings where the hoses meet the steel lines or run 3/8 hydralic hose all the way to the transmission plumb the two coolers in series and bypass the radiator cooler gray... we found a trailer that we want and its about 4700 pounds dry weight.... everyone says that our dak can handle it with no problem but im worried about the tranny.... the deal were working includes the trailer and goodies a good torsion - equalizer hitch trailer and brake wiring.... i also want to work a tranny cooler into the price... what would you suggest i want the rv dealer to set up all of the above so that i have one place to call if i have questions/problems 01 dakota 2wd club cab.... 4.7 w/auto 3.55 gears towing package with 16 wheels 38000 miles on it.. .

From : budd cochran

the powerflite transmissions were cast iron cased two speed automatics from the 50s. they were dropped for the iron cased torqueflites at first then the aluminum cased torqueflites in the early 60s. budd clare wrote on thu 17 jul 2003 084816 -0600 mulatz cptnkjm@sasktel.net wrote the people i have talked to have all said that for as long as they remember dodge had some of the best engines and the crappiest trannies. you dont remember very far back then. the old 904 and 727 powerflyte transmissions were as durable and reliable as they came. they are still the basis for many drag transmissions - things like the clutchflyte. the old trannies had dual pumps where the newer ones only have front pumps - but other than the front wheel drive trannies mopar still has a pretty good box. if you are towing do yourself a favour and add both a fan cooled auxiliary cooler and a fluid pump to keep the heat down when pulling a load in heavy traffic.. of course if you baby the tranny it will keep for a long time which is what i intend to do. these statements were from people who work the trucks quite hard alot harder than i do. from factory the trannies may be a little weaker than some but no one can expect them to last forever. if mine gives me trouble its way off warantee then i intend to have it rebuilt as strong as possible so that it will last another 200000km. the tranny cooler sounds like a good idea to me just might take a look at that. kirk i just bought a 98 dakota and when my neighbor saw ithe is also a dodge owner he said i hope you have a spare couple of grand because you are gonna have to replace that tranny. is there even a grain of truth to his assertion that all dodge trucks have substandard transmissions i looked the truck up on some kind of consumer reporting website before i bought it and they said that it was a pretty much trouble free truck. please tell me that my tranny isnt destined to fail! the only other dodge i have ever owned is a 84 ram charger and i loved that truck with that big ole 360 and extra large tires wish i still had it but the mileage sucked and i travel a lot for work. any input from this group of dodge lovers will be greatly appreciated! dale simpson .

From : budd cochran

tom why do i get the impression he ranted and raved at the service managers until they darn near or did toss him out after all what are the chances of there being three lousy dealerships they wouldnt stay in business. . . . budd tbone wrote i didnt name the dealerships because it involves 3 dealerships in my area plus one on the other side of the state. i also felt all the replies i received from dc showed the company was only out for the money and not customer satisfaction. their reply was basically the same each time our dealerships do not represent our products. i hope we can earn your faith again in dc products. who cares if you were dealing with multiple dealerships. if all three of them treated you badly then you should name all three of them. what did you expect dc to do they dont own the dealerships so they cannot fire anyone. it is sad to say but in a situation like this dc is going to look at the numbers before attempting any reprimands against a particular dealership and the more that the dealership sells the more tolerant dc is going to be of their actions. as i said before if you really feel that they did wrong by you then name them and save others from their bullshit or do you feel that you are also at fault in the situation by not walking right out the door the minute that they started their shit if you dont name them you are just whining in here and will have to deal with the attacks that you are getting. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

ok here is the problem i have a 1999 dakota check eng light is on code 720 speed sensor circuit no i checked the ohms on the sensor and it is reading 2025 does anyone know if this is right or what should i look for thanks .

From : jerry

you have evidence to the contrary do you .

From : jerry

well whatever it was this was the coldest winter we have had here in southern ca in a long time. so much for that theories as for this hole in the ozone. its always been there. and its funny how all the reports come out about how its growing during the fall/winter. yeah because that is when its colder and the hole opens up a little the when it warms up it closes again. why dont we measure this hole for a few years and se if it really is growing paul jensen pjensen@gnt.net wrote the law is there for a reason. ever stop to think about that for a bit what reason would that be other than to make liberals feel better about themselves because they did something about the myth known as global warming venting of cfcs never had anything to do with global warming. venting of cfcs is about the destruction of the ozone layer of our atmosphere and the increase in the number of cases of skin cancer. global warming is about the increase of the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and the climatological changes that would occur. two different animals. uv radiation versus ir radiation. there you learned something. .

From : beekeep

on sun 20 jul 2003 150537 gmt budd cochran while tied to to his computer by his kids so he wouldnt wander off mr-d150@citlink.net wrote sniped the bullshit i dont think a 25 year old model could make you happy. one can put 12 hives 16x22 in the back of my van. seeing as i wouldnt try to pick one up over 125 pounds there is no way i would overload a 3/4 ton truck. when i was in the honey business all my hives were here on the farm within 100 feet of the honey house. so any honey hauling that you are talking about is just your wandering mind trying to stir up some shit. you just love to make up crap about me with absolutely nothing to back it up. sort of like the lie you started that i wished you dead. you cant prove any of it. i dont know if you are just to phucken stupid to do a google search or just know that you have made it all up so there is no use. the net result is the same - you cant prove any of it. i think the hot desert sun out there in utah has fried your mind. beekeep ps honey weighs 1.5 times that of water. .

From : budd cochran

the reason its going to go..and i know its been almost a year since i stated that...is that it has now been used in almost all medium temp refrigeration units...like r12 used to be. now...whats keeping it from going 134a is all tied up in litigation about the ban. r22 was too and its got a phase out date...its already in effect. no equipment to be made after 2010 with r22 and no r22 made at all after 2025. this year the production of r22 was limited and each year the production will go down. its a matter of time but all i was trying to do was point out why it didnt have a sight glass and back when i first stated that you could expect 134a to get banned it was just some advice. i bet if someone had told you a couple of years in advance on r12 back when it was under 50 cents a can you would have been stockpiling it...lord knows before i had my certificates i would have. cbhvac wrote 134a is still covered under the section 608 of the epa clean air act... its obvious as hell why its going to be banned from non licenced persons.. funny...thats right...jerry and the rest of you dont get the epa letter...youhave to be licenced in 608-609 for that... all im saying is the stuff is sold at all auto parts stores i know and places like walmart. iirc it has been over a year now since you last stated the stuff was soon to be pulled from the store shelves but it is still there. it is used for more than just topping off a system as you can buy a kit for less than $30 that has the hoses fittings refrigerant and oil to completely bring a system back up which is exactly what i did last year to my daughters honda after she hit a raccoon that done some damage to her car including breaking one of the a/c lines. replaced the line charged the system back up and it is still working fine today and i had no recovery system or license. so if they ban it then they ban it. until then ill continue to use the product. btw i also heard there is a group trying to ban big macs also. just cant please everyone can ya. jerry -- character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. .

From : theguy

how was the dsm shoot out did you run your truck. curious to hear some ets on that hemi. i am planning on getting the gibson too. did you get the one that exits on the side in front of the rear wheel i was thinking about getting the duals that come out at the stock location. matt kinsinger wrote yes there is noticeably less torque meaning less takeoff power. but on the highway it is alot quicker to accelerate. it did get alot better as it got used to it. i drove about 200 miles today with it and i had no problem getting over 20mpg at any speed between 50-60. it did noticeably get more low end torque as the miles went on though. i did get my gibson on tonight and it sounds great. nice and deep but not too too loud just a nicer growl than stock. mpg is also up with it at speeds below 50 havent had a chance to go beyond that with it yet. while your at it throw in a k&n drop in. you will really feel the power w/ no muffler and a k&n! that should be worth 50hp. really i find it hard to believe there is that much of a noticeable difference w/o the muffler. but i bet it does sound mean! yeah no backpressure = less torque i believe. punch .

From : beekeep

on sun 20 jul 2003 221606 -0500 paul jensen pjensen@gnt.net wrote the funny thing was gage said there were plenty of v-8s around and family claimed v-8s would be hard to find. two dealers saying just the opposite. now theres a red flag. they agreed but for the 2nd time this salesman made a comment about spending too much time on this deal. that was a stupid thing for the salesman to say. i may have tried to find another salesman to work with there. and i would have stayed with the same salesman at each dealership instead of using two or three different ones unless someone said something stupid like they were spending too much time on the deal. i was not using 2 or 3 different salesman they were. this was not my first time buying a new car but the first time i was out numbered like this. i thought maybe it was so slow that they had nothing better to do. 2. why can a dealer sell a truck that is promised to another dealer isnt their word important to any customer even if its at another dealership. i wouldnt think any vehicle would be held for anyone without a deposit. i purchased my dakota two months ago on a friday night. someone else wanted it bad but had financial problems upside down with toyota he was trying to trade and had to wait until monday morning for his bank to open and didnt put down a deposit that would have held the truck for him. i could do the deal on the spot so that truck is now sitting in my driveway. im sure that other guy was pretty upset on monday morning but he wasnt ready to close the deal and i was. i could not put a deposit down they did not have the truck yet. from what they told me the deal was done they ran a credit check had insurance changed over and the loan ready. then the truck disappeared. 3. after making the deal with family at 4.25% when i went to get the truck they wanted to charge me 4.7%. thats not good either. this may be a stupid question but why not order the truck since you were so specific as to what you wanted it sounds like family tried some moves on you but am not sure what gage is guilty of. it sounds like the trucks they located were not on their lot - they belonged to other dealers. was to late for 03 and didnt want to wait 3 months for 04 seeing the $3000 rebate and deal on used truck would expire. i did tell both dealers i could wait for the 04s but they claimed i would be better off now with the rebate and they could find me the truck. those are just a few of my thoughts off the top. explaining your situation should get you better responses that just saying dc and their dealers have poor customer service so youre getting a ford. maybe others can learn from your experience. that is one purpose for this forum. dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail .

From : budd cochran

ive got a 1990 dodge dakota v6 that has never run right since ive owned it. i think ive cleared up all the other problems but still have a problem with rough idling and running. if i watch the injector stream i can see it stop briefly and hear the engine pause and while im at a stop i can feel the gas peddle pulse under my foot like the computer is trying to keep the rpms up so it wont stall. ive replaced the egr valse map sensor oxygen sensor idle speed motor distributor speed sensor and recently after it wouldnt start the fuel pump. ive also cleaned all of the grounds under the hood i could find. now the codes that show up are 12 battery disconnect 33 according to allpars code list i get this because of not having airconditioning 34 and 55. i thought i saw something about getting a 34 if i did not have cruise control but i dont remember where but even with that i cant figure out what is pulsing the injector like it does its not a regular pulsing like i would expect with the computer trying to keep the motor going its random but not very close together. i was told a simple way to see if it is the injector itself would be to put a speaker and resistor in parallel with the injector wires to see if i hear the pulse on the speaker. if i hear the pulse then the injectors are working and i have to look elsewhere for the problem. if the injector is ok what kind of feedback would cause the computer to pulse it im at a loss right now as to what to do next other than get a new computer for it and at 200+ dollars id rather avoid that. any ideas thanks bill .

From : budd cochran

sorry jerry calling me a liar doesnt change the fact i felt my life was threatened by greg. nothing you say can change that. thats why i said you needed to accept it. however since you have rejected all my attempts to bring peace between you and i what should i expect from you you are an enemy and an unforgiving person. youll continue to attack butt-in and otherwise harass me until . . . . im glad i have better things to do in my life. budd jerry wrote budd cochran wrote you demonstrated your attitude towards me in the past so your comment is not as supportive as you think for bser. it could easily be taken as another attack from you. but knowing your tendency to meddle where youre not wanted im not surprised you looked it up. after all you still like to moderate the group. ok. youre right but he was the only person to insist i should do the lift with the rafters. the only person. and then he made the collapsed garage statement as if he was mad i didnt follow his suggestion and kill myself by trying it. what does that say about him jerry so where is it written that i have to laugh these statements off where is it chiseled in stone that i have to meet anyone elses criteria of how i should accept what greg says where is it spray painted on a mens room wall that i have to respond to anyone in accordance to your rules jerry to me it was the same as an attempt to cause my demise. do you have the ability to understand that jerry remember he was the only person to suggest it. thats how it came across to me. everyone else said it might be possible to pull the engine on the rafters but they would prefer i rent the cherry picker for safety. those people were my friends jerry greg was not still is not nor never will be my friend . .a position you also chose. am i right but you had better remember this also jerry...i have never and will not ever wish death on anyone . .not you not greg. because i am practicing my beliefs. now butt out. budd jerry wrote snip!!! and proved he still wants to be the group moderator. you are one fucked up person budd. not supporting anyone just tired of seeing your lying bullshit. even now your trying to say he insisted when in fact he said it was possible. get a clue budd youre the laugh of the day around here. jerry -- character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. .

From : budd cochran

just had to butt-in also did ya im glad i can provide entertainment for such pathetic lifeforms as you and jerry. does it pump up your egos think of how sick you are to hover and wait for the chance to attack me...like a buzzard waiting for the prey to die. yep you guys are all the carrion eaters of humanity. budd theguy wrote on mon 21 jul 2003 041258 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlink.net wrote you demonstrated your attitude towards me in the past so your comment is not as supportive as you think for bser. it could easily be taken as another attack from you. but knowing your tendency to meddle where youre not wanted im not surprised you looked it up. after all you still like to moderate the group. ok. youre right but he was the only person to insist i should do the lift with the rafters. the only person. and then he made the collapsed garage statement as if he was mad i didnt follow his suggestion and kill myself by trying it. what does that say about him jerry so where is it written that i have to laugh these statements off where is it chiseled in stone that i have to meet anyone elses criteria of how i should accept what greg says where is it spray painted on a mens room wall that i have to respond to anyone in accordance to your rules jerry to me it was the same as an attempt to cause my demise. do you have the ability to understand that jerry remember he was the only person to suggest it. thats how it came across to me. everyone else said it might be possible to pull the engine on the rafters but they would prefer i rent the cherry picker for safety. those people were my friends jerry greg was not still is not nor never will be my friend . .a position you also chose. am i right but you had better remember this also jerry...i have never and will not ever wish death on anyone . .not you not greg. because i am practicing my beliefs. now butt out. budd jesus god. i butted out for some time now budd but your lunacy brought me back. out of the blue i check in to see what is going on and i see your post. i had forgotten how stupid you were. you are one of the dumbest phuckin people on this planet. did you read what you wrote above does it have some resemblance to anything even remotely close to sanity to you you would be the only one if it does. jerry wrote snip!!! and proved he still wants to be the group moderator. .

From : beekeep

tom why do i get the impression he ranted and raved at the service managers until they darn near or did toss him out i dont think that he had any dealings with the service department. this rant is totally with new car sales. it would be more credible if he actually named them and the state that they were in. i also dont know what he expects dc to really do about it. after all what are the chances of there being three lousy dealerships they wouldnt stay in business. . . . budd unfortunately that is not true. it has become expected that the dealer is going to try and screw you over and that it is the buyers responsibility to protect themselves against it how sad. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : beekeep

i am puzzled by all the defense of dealerships and service departments. i have a 2003 dakota quad-cab that this past wednesday 7-16-2003 lost all power and the check engine light mil came on. i called the dealership a five star center whatever the hell that means and they couldnt be bothered. sorry but we are all booked up. mr. jones has to have his oil changed and the fact that your brand new truck just died means nothing to us. he suggested another dealership. so i said thank you very little and called another dealership. my truck has been sitting in the same spot now since wednesday and everytime i call to inquire i get... geez augh uhmm let me call you back and surprise no one calls me back... now there is five star service for you...same old dodge same ole crappy service. hasnt changed since i bought a lemon dodge in 86. this is changing. i am not defending chrysler dealerships but for example my cadillac dealer not only came to pick up my car for an oil change they washed it and waxed it and returned it. if there was a problem all i do is call them. i dont even drive there any more. a buddy of mine that just bought a chevy trailblazer said that dealing with his dealer was also very pleasant. chrysler will learn this to survive. .

From : gary glaenzer

on tue 22 jul 2003 013940 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlink.net wrote dont know anything about heart disease do you most of the time its genetic. does either of your parents have heart trouble if so your chances of heart trouble go up by about 70%. in other words a manufacturers defect like my truck tranny i did sign the dnr. my heart restarted on its own. and im not miserable . . my retirement plan is literally out of this world. that explains it - your mind is with your retirement plan. beekeep .

From : beekeep

methods learned from working on pumps and valves for caustic chemicals both require using kids modeling clay to form a dam or cup around the stud and threads to hold the liquid in 1. use plain coke and let it soak overnight. the phosphoric acid in the coke will dissolve the rust right down to the base metal. also kool-aid mixed with just enough water to dissolve the powder works great. 2. use methyl salicylate from the pharmacy. youll have to sign the poison log for it. its the mint-fragrance main ingredient in the heat rubs because its a pain-killer that penetrates through the skin. it will also blister the daylights out of you in high concentrations. it is also the active ingredient in marvel mystery oil. it cuts through rust varnish and sludge like gangbusters. rick -- my real e-mail address is yofuri@oakharbor.net whats the easiest way to remove stuck exhaust manifold bolts. ive gotten 14 of 16 bolts loose but two dont what to release. im afraid of breaking them off in the head. of the ones ive removed there is significant under cutting just below the hex head actually 4 are hex nuts. ive tried wd40 on a warm not hot manifold but no luck. the engine has never had the heads off before. 1975 360 cid 42000 miles. rc ok folks. heres the scoop again. wd-40 is a water displacement/drier that happens to be classified as a lubricant. to remove stuck bolts etc you really need a penetrant/lube. use liquid wrench pb blaster or any other type of lubricant that is labeled as a penetrating lubricant. the allmighty wd-40 can only go so far. simply hose the area with liquid wrench or pb blaster and wait. tap lightly with hammer etc then twist. should come out. later! -dave .

From : beekeep

on tue 22 jul 2003 124048 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote on tue 22 jul 2003 013940 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlink.net wrote dont know anything about heart disease do you most of the time its genetic. does either of your parents have heart trouble if so your chances of heart trouble go up by about 70%. in other words a manufacturers defect like my truck tranny you really are an asshole greg give me a break. i could have said it was from inbreeding. i guess you like budd dont think it is possible that a bad tranny design might be the cause of failure. i took your advise and had a tranny cooler installed on the last one and it has lasted over 100k so far. it is just my opinion but i think the cooler made the difference which is chryslers poor engineering design. to say to me that it was my fault that i didnt add one in the beginning would be like me saying to budd that he should have had a pacemaker installed when he was born. i did sign the dnr. my heart restarted on its own. and im not miserable . . my retirement plan is literally out of this world. that explains it - your mind is with your retirement plan. keep attempting to make jokes at others expense boy one say it will be your turn in the hot seat and you will get to see what its all about dont start with me gary you know very well that i leave you alone untill you start something. then i tend to call you what you are. beekeep .

From : budd cochran

on tue 22 jul 2003 013940 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlink.net wrote where did i say the hives were filled with bees the weight i used was supplier shipping weights. iow i did give you credit for the common sense to not try moving full hives. now whos reading what wasnt written i read what was written you just didnt know what you wrote. i was talking hives you were talking woodenware. there is a difference. my woodenware gets shipped to the farm on pallets via trucking companies from wisconsin. it never sees the inside of my truck. after it is assembled into hives it is mostly air by volume and would be impossible to overload a 3/4 ton van unless i cut off the roof. hives filled with bees and honey would hardly overload it as well. beekeep .

From : gary glaenzer

my 02 dakota r/t 5.9 kicks ass and the dealer sends me free service coupons! perhaps then you should walk into the dealership and directly to the customer service counter and ask them directly what they are doing and when. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving here here!! its day 6 and my 03 dakota quad-cab still sits in the same spot where it as been since being towed to the five star service center - whatever that means... dc has no customer service.. i will never spend a penny on ford... i customer service counts and daimlerchrysler and its dealerships fail at that. my wife next car will not be a daimlerchrysler product. as much as i like my 03 dakota i will not spend another cent on daimlerchrysler. steve dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail .

From : les dudiss

atari wrote i also looked on the dodge website and it does not list the 5.9l as an option for the 2003 model. i just looked at dodges website and used their build and price selector which clearly showed the 5.9l to be the standard engine. .

From : clare snyder on ca

on tue 23 sep 2003 145610 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote the powerflite transmissions were cast iron cased two speed automatics from the 50s. they were dropped for the iron cased torqueflites at first then the aluminum cased torqueflites in the early 60s. budd you are right budd - i meant torqueflite. the 727 and 904 torqueflite transmission was as durable and reliable as they came. they are still used in a lot of drag cars. clare wrote on thu 17 jul 2003 084816 -0600 mulatz cptnkjm@sasktel.net wrote the people i have talked to have all said that for as long as they remember dodge had some of the best engines and the crappiest trannies. you dont remember very far back then. the old 904 and 727 powerflyte transmissions were as durable and reliable as they came. they are still the basis for many drag transmissions - things like the clutchflyte. the old trannies had dual pumps where the newer ones only have front pumps - but other than the front wheel drive trannies mopar still has a pretty good box. if you are towing do yourself a favour and add both a fan cooled auxiliary cooler and a fluid pump to keep the heat down when pulling a load in heavy traffic.. of course if you baby the tranny it will keep for a long time which is what i intend to do. these statements were from people who work the trucks quite hard alot harder than i do. from factory the trannies may be a little weaker than some but no one can expect them to last forever. if mine gives me trouble its way off warantee then i intend to have it rebuilt as strong as possible so that it will last another 200000km. the tranny cooler sounds like a good idea to me just might take a look at that. kirk i just bought a 98 dakota and when my neighbor saw ithe is also a dodge owner he said i hope you have a spare couple of grand because you are gonna have to replace that tranny. is there even a grain of truth to his assertion that all dodge trucks have substandard transmissions i looked the truck up on some kind of consumer reporting website before i bought it and they said that it was a pretty much trouble free truck. please tell me that my tranny isnt destined to fail! the only other dodge i have ever owned is a 84 ram charger and i loved that truck with that big ole 360 and extra large tires wish i still had it but the mileage sucked and i travel a lot for work. any input from this group of dodge lovers will be greatly appreciated! dale simpson .

From : clare snyder on caclare snyder on ca

on 23 sep 2003 143221 gmt mopar440@aol.comedy.biz redneck tookover hell wrote . they are still the basis for many drag transmissions - things like theclutchflyte. that is a long time ago clutchflytes havent been made in many many years. the parts to make one for a nostalgia drag race car are very hard to come by a fluid pump to keep the heat down when pulling a load in heavy traffic.. a separate fluid pump dont be silly just put the transmission in a lower gear nothing silly about it. even in low gear in heavy traffic the torque converter is producing prodigious amounts of heat. since the cooling flow is reduced at low speedsand particularly when idling in gear an external coolant pump as well as a fan cooled auxilliary cooler can definitely save you some grief. the other option is to shift to neutral when creeping. .

From : budd cochran

please explain how being in neutral will allow you to creep. you also dont know much about torqueflite transmissions. ive never seen one overheat in heavy traffic unless it was out of fluid bands slipping severely or there was something blocking airflow to the radiator. and thats from a couple years experience of stop and go traffic in indianapolis at rush hour. budd clare wrote nothing silly about it. even in low gear in heavy traffic the torque converter is producing prodigious amounts of heat. since the cooling flow is reduced at low speedsand particularly when idling in gear an external coolant pump as well as a fan cooled auxilliary cooler can definitely save you some grief. the other option is to shift to neutral when creeping. .

From : budd cochran

tom to me it looks like since ive stopped playing your argument game that youve decided to attack darn near every one. which just proves what ive believed all along you just want to cause trouble in the group. im glad im not you. youre pathetic. good-bye. budd tbone wrote nothing worth repeating. .

From : tbone

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving then write what you mean. lol here the person admits to error and agrees with you and you still feel the need to treat them like shit what an ass. and you wonder why people do it to you. and the t-flites are mainly used on stock or near stock mopars at the drags. gm and ford owners tend to stick with that corporates transmission. youre implying everyone uses them. i see no such thing. it sounds to me more like even though they are old and out of date transmissions they are still widely used due to their strength and reliability. budd clare wrote you are right budd - i meant torqueflite. the 727 and 904 torqueflite transmission was as durable and reliable as they came. they are still used in a lot of drag cars. .

From : clare snyder on ca

on tue 30 sep 2003 145122 -0400 tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote tom to me it looks like since ive stopped playing your argument game that youve decided to attack darn near every one. lol who are all of these people that i am attacking you need to tell your doctors to back off on those pain meds. you are really getting delusional any more. seems to me all you dodge truckers have an attitude problem - bunch of red-neck trailer trash bubbas. which just proves what ive believed all along you just want to cause trouble in the group. every reply ive had on this group seems to come from a jerk with a chip on his shoulder that would sink the queen mary. i thought being a mechanic and former dodge owner id be able to lend a hand. too bad. im glad im not you. youre pathetic. ditto good-bye. yea sure. that is until you get the next opportunity to come out with another of your typical cowardly attacks by commenting on a thread that you are not involved it. budd tbone wrote nothing worth repeating. iow you know that you cannot defend yourself and are not man enough to apologize to the person. .

From : aguy

on wed 01 oct 2003 181310 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote tom its not at all important what you believe or dont believe. i dont think i could care less about it. budd youre just so cute when your mad. .

From : clare snyder on ca

on tue 30 sep 2003 050924 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote please explain how being in neutral will allow you to creep. you put it in and out of gear. neutral to drive to reduce heat build-up when not moving.. on a torqueflite this is not usually an issue - as i said the dang things are almost bulletproof. on the new fwd 4 speeds it is a different story. also on th350 and th400 gms and the new 4 speed variants. definitely a problem on some ford od transmissions as well. you also dont know much about torqueflite transmissions. ive never seen one overheat in heavy traffic unless it was out of fluid bands slipping severely or there was something blocking airflow to the radiator. and thats from a couple years experience of stop and go traffic in indianapolis at rush hour. ive put close to a million miles on torqueflites. never had to rebuild one 904 or 727. ill agree they are tough - i flogged the tail off the ramcharger ploughing snow - never a problem - but on transmissions with any reliability problems heat is the worst enemy. and particularly for those towing trailers in heavy traffic the aux pump and cooler can be a real lifesaver. dont hurt on a torqueflite either. particularly when its 110f in the shade and you are pulling a 32 foot house trailer through rushhour traffic on a lonnggg grade - heading up. lots of trannies cooked at the good sam camping jamboree this summer just waiting to get into the fair-grounds. and that was on relatively level ground. budd clare wrote nothing silly about it. even in low gear in heavy traffic the torque converter is producing prodigious amounts of heat. since the cooling flow is reduced at low speedsand particularly when idling in gear an external coolant pump as well as a fan cooled auxilliary cooler can definitely save you some grief. the other option is to shift to neutral when creeping. .

From : tbone

lol i think that you need glasses -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on wed 01 oct 2003 181310 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote tom its not at all important what you believe or dont believe. i dont think i could care less about it. budd youre just so cute when your mad. .

From : gary glaenzer

on tue 30 sep 2003 050924 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote please explain how being in neutral will allow you to creep. you put it in and out of gear. neutral to drive to reduce heat build-up when not moving.. on a torqueflite this is not usually an issue - as i said the dang things are almost bulletproof. on the new fwd 4 speeds it is a different story. also on th350 and th400 gms and the new 4 speed variants. definitely a problem on some ford od transmissions as well. please elaborate and as grandpa used to say this better be good! you also dont know much about torqueflite transmissions. ive never seen one overheat in heavy traffic unless it was out of fluid bands slipping severely or there was something blocking airflow to the radiator. and thats from a couple years experience of stop and go traffic in indianapolis at rush hour. ive put close to a million miles on torqueflites. never had to rebuild one 904 or 727. ill agree they are tough - i flogged the tail off the ramcharger ploughing snow - never a problem - but on transmissions with any reliability problems heat is the worst enemy. and particularly for those towing trailers in heavy traffic the aux pump and cooler can be a real lifesaver. aux pump dont hurt on a torqueflite either. particularly when its 110f in the shade and you are pulling a 32 foot house trailer through rushhour traffic on a lonnggg grade - heading up. lots of trannies cooked at the good sam camping jamboree this summer just waiting to get into the fair-grounds. and that was on relatively level ground. budd clare wrote nothing silly about it. even in low gear in heavy traffic the torque converter is producing prodigious amounts of heat. since the cooling flow is reduced at low speedsand particularly when idling in gear an external coolant pump as well as a fan cooled auxilliary cooler can definitely save you some grief. the other option is to shift to neutral when creeping. .

From : tbone

tom to me it looks like since ive stopped playing your argument game that youve decided to attack darn near every one. lol who are all of these people that i am attacking you need to tell your doctors to back off on those pain meds. you are really getting delusional any more. which just proves what ive believed all along you just want to cause trouble in the group. im glad im not you. youre pathetic. ditto good-bye. yea sure. that is until you get the next opportunity to come out with another of your typical cowardly attacks by commenting on a thread that you are not involved it. budd tbone wrote nothing worth repeating. iow you know that you cannot defend yourself and are not man enough to apologize to the person. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

clare wrote you put it in and out of gear. neutral to drive to reduce heat build-up when not moving.. guffaw!!! so rather than use the park position to hold the vehicles position and move into low range only when space allows for a decent band engagement youd rather flick the shifter back and forth from neutral to drive causing a lot of slippage because the band and clutches may not have a chance to fully engage before you apply throttle. remind me to not loan you my truck. on a torqueflite this is not usually an issue - as i said the dang things are almost bulletproof. the key here is the word almost. you can destroy an anvil if you use the right tool yet you can also pound on one for centuries if you use only hammers. on the new fwd 4 speeds it is a different story. also on th350 and th400 gms and the new 4 speed variants. definitely a problem on some ford od transmissions as well. now you blew it. th 350 / 400s are also tough 3 speed transmissions nearly as good as t-flites. the c-4 and c-6 fords are also good transmissions also are three speeds. the only commonly reoccurring prob ive seen on any of these are the routing of the vacuum modulator line on some fords too close to the hot exhaust pipes. as for the ford od transmissions and the gm od transmissions some fail just like some mopar 4 speeds but most never give a lick of trouble. the percentages of failure arent all that high or youd be seeing a big government backed investigation. ive put close to a million miles on torqueflites. really you dont sound old enough. never had to rebuild one 904 or 727. i have and ive had two fail but one failure was my fault not the transmissions and the other was due to a strike at chrysler that caused a 727 case to not get cleaned properly during assembly. ill agree they are tough - i flogged the tail off the ramcharger ploughing snow - never a problem - but on transmissions with any reliability problems heat is the worst enemy. and particularly for those towing trailers in heavy traffic the aux pump and cooler can be a real lifesaver. what freaking auxiliary pump are you talking about yes i agree you cant cool any transmission including manual transmissions enough and heat can be a problem but you have yet to definitively prove any of your claims. dont hurt on a torqueflite either. particularly when its 110f in the shade and you are pulling a 32 foot house trailer through rushhour traffic on a lonnggg grade - heading up. i think an 8000 + lb u-haul trailer on a 79 d-150 with an 1140 pound overload on the rear axle climbing the east side vail pass over 10000 ft coming out of denver in 40 degree weather to be just as taxing to the transmission but a slip of the shifter to low range and give the engine some rpm 3500 rpm brought the temperature right back down. iow if you overheated with your load you screwed up. lots of trannies cooked at the good sam camping jamboree this summer just waiting to get into the fair-grounds. and that was on relatively level ground. lol how many good sam club members really know how to tow if they were trying to inch 5-7000 lb loads around at idle and just above idle rpms then the heat wasnt caused by the torque converters as much as normal band slippage due to low line pressure brought on by the low engine rpms. id darn near bet most of those people were in drive or od shifter positions to boot. on t-flites if you need to inch along shift to low range its in the manual then move only as room permits. the shift puts the load on a fully applied band and or clutch and takes it off the low sprag. its just common sense. budd .

From : clare snyder on ca

on tue 30 sep 2003 200801 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote clare wrote you put it in and out of gear. neutral to drive to reduce heat build-up when not moving.. guffaw!!! so rather than use the park position to hold the vehicles position and move into low range only when space allows for a decent band engagement youd rather flick the shifter back and forth from neutral to drive causing a lot of slippage because the band and clutches may not have a chance to fully engage before you apply throttle. remind me to not loan you my truck. no you jackass. you put it in low or drive or whatever and let it move a carlength or two then shift it into neutral or park if you want and wait for traffic to move again. when you have another couple carlengths available you slip it back into drive or low and move ahead again. neutral works better than park because you can let itroll a bit if the road slope is right. ramming in and out of park on the roll is no good and you may as well let it coast when it will and can. the important part is you are not sitting there in drive or low at a fast idle trying to creep along. on a torqueflite this is not usually an issue - as i said the dang things are almost bulletproof. the key here is the word almost. you can destroy an anvil if you use the right tool yet you can also pound on one for centuries if you use only hammers. on the new fwd 4 speeds it is a different story. also on th350 and th400 gms and the new 4 speed variants. definitely a problem on some ford od transmissions as well. now you blew it. th 350 / 400s are also tough 3 speed transmissions nearly as good as t-flites. the c-4 and c-6 fords are also good transmissions also are three speeds. the only commonly reoccurring prob ive seen on any of these are the routing of the vacuum modulator line on some fords too close to the hot exhaust pipes. as for the ford od transmissions and the gm od transmissions some fail just like some mopar 4 speeds but most never give a lick of trouble. the percentages of failure arent all that high or youd be seeing a big government backed investigation. ive put close to a million miles on torqueflites. really you dont sound old enough. never had to rebuild one 904 or 727. i have and ive had two fail but one failure was my fault not the transmissions and the other was due to a strike at chrysler that caused a 727 case to not get cleaned properly during assembly. ill agree they are tough - i flogged the tail off the ramcharger ploughing snow - never a problem - but on transmissions with any reliability problems heat is the worst enemy. and particularly for those towing trailers in heavy traffic the aux pump and cooler can be a real lifesaver. what freaking auxiliary pump are you talking about yes i agree you cant cool any transmission including manual transmissions enough and heat can be a problem but you have yet to definitively prove any of your claims. dont hurt on a torqueflite either. particularly when its 110f in the shade and you are pulling a 32 foot house trailer through rushhour traffic on a lonnggg grade - heading up. i think an 8000 + lb u-haul trailer on a 79 d-150 with an 1140 pound overload on the rear axle climbing the east side vail pass over 10000 ft coming out of denver in 40 degree weather to be just as taxing to the transmission but a slip of the shifter to low range and give the engine some rpm 3500 rpm brought the temperature right back down. iow if you overheated with your load you screwed up. lots of trannies cooked at the good sam camping jamboree this summer just waiting to get into the fair-grounds. and that was on relatively level ground. lol how many good sam club members really know how to tow if they were trying to inch 5-7000 lb loads around at idle and just above idle rpms then the heat wasnt caused by the torque converters as much as normal band slippage due to low line pressure brought on by the low engine rpms. id darn near bet most of those people were in drive or od shifter positions to boot. on t-flites if you need to inch along shift to low range its in the manual then move only as room permits. the shift puts the load on a fully applied band and or clutch and takes it off the low sprag. its just common sense. budd .

From : jerry

clare wrote every reply ive had on this group seems to come from a jerk with a chip on his shoulder that would sink the queen mary. i thought being a mechanic and former dodge owner id be able to lend a hand. too bad. careful now youre using an awful broad paintbrush just because of one jackass. btw some of the newer after market valve bodies allow higher line pressure while at idle in gear and in park for better cooling. dont need the extra plumbing that way. jerry .

From : gary glaenzer

clare wrote every reply ive had on this group seems to come from a jerk with a chip on his shoulder that would sink the queen mary. i thought being a mechanic and former dodge owner id be able to lend a hand. too bad. careful now youre using an awful broad paintbrush just because of one jackass. btw some of the newer after market valve bodies allow higher line pressure while at idle in gear and in park for better cooling. dont need the extra plumbing that way. not to whiz on your parade but higher line pressure translates into less cooler flow in a tf pump pressure regulator valve clutch packs 1st priority converter charge 2nd priority cooler lube circuit .

From : clare snyder on ca

now you blew it. th 350 / 400s are also tough 3 speed transmissions nearly as good as t-flites. the c-4 and c-6 fords are also good transmissions also are three speeds. the only commonly reoccurring prob ive seen on any of these are the routing of the vacuum modulator line on some fords too close to the hot exhaust pipes. have you ever run a snow plough on a chevy or a ford or towed a heavy trailer with one. ever seen a chevy motorhome go over 160000 miles without a tranny rebuild virtually every one ive looked at in the last 3 years has been advertised with a rebuilt transmission the standard c6 took out planet gears. they came out with a heavy duty carrier with more gears made of stronger stuff just to make them get through a season. the th350 was just as bad and without auxilliary coolers is a pretty fragile piece. as for the ford od transmissions and the gm od transmissions some fail just like some mopar 4 speeds but most never give a lick of trouble. the percentages of failure arent all that high or youd be seeing a big government backed investigation. in normal use they are generally reasonable but in heavy duty use there are definitely problems - mostly heat related but not all with the fwd gm trannies the drive cage is pretty fragile - and the spline if you want to call it that that the planetaries fit into tends to fracture. when mine was in for a rebuild because the drive cage split the tranny shop had 2 others on the rack when mine came in and 3 more by the time mine left 2 days later. this is eccentuated by the problem they have with the torque converter lockup regulator - it wears out the case to the point it gets sloppy and erratic causing the lockup clutch to chatter. the chatter doesnt help the drive cage any - and there is now a heavy duty replacement drive cage available as well as a sleeve kit for the tc reg. ford winstars and taurus transmissions are just about as fragile and trouble prone as their 3.8l engines too. ive put close to a million miles on torqueflites. really you dont sound old enough. well im well past my 50th birthday. have had my mechanics licence since 1971 never had to rebuild one 904 or 727. i have and ive had two fail but one failure was my fault not the transmissions and the other was due to a strike at chrysler that caused a 727 case to not get cleaned properly during assembly. ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. the accumulator was on the fist van the rest on the second. 100000 on the first one and 240000 on the second before i sold them and over 200000 on the first one before it was scrapped sold it to a friend my 1988 chrysler 3 speed got nasty at about 198000 so i replaced it with one from a low mileage spirit just over a year ago. my pontiac transsport 3.8 4 speed just split the drive cage last month at about 295000 - and has had the differential replaced twice under warrantee before i bought it. torqueflites on 63 valliant 69 dart 2 ramblers 1976 ramcharger and 1974 dart sport all went over 100000 miles each with no failures. and i ploughed snow with the ramcharger. ill agree they are tough - i flogged the tail off the ramcharger ploughing snow - never a problem - but on transmissions with any reliability problems heat is the worst enemy. and particularly for those towing trailers in heavy traffic the aux pump and cooler can be a real lifesaver. what freaking auxiliary pump are you talking about yes i agree you cant cool any transmission including manual transmissions enough and heat can be a problem but you have yet to definitively prove any of your claims. there is a pump that can be installed in the cooling line of the transmission to circulate the oil through the cooler. it is also used on towed or toad cars with automatic transmissions when hauled behind motor homes. dont have the manufacturer available at the moment. as far as proving anything i dont have to. its not my motorhome or trailer towing vehicle that is going to be sitting at the side of the road with a toasted tranny because i didnt believe what id been told. dont hurt on a torqueflite either. particularly when its 110f in the shade and you are pulling a 32 foot house trailer through rushhour traffic on a lonnggg grade - heading up. i think an 8000 + lb u-haul trailer on a 79 d-150 with an 1140 pound overload on the rear axle climbing the east side vail pass over 10000 ft coming out of denver in 40 degree weather to be just as taxing to the transmission but a slip of the shifter to low range and give the engine some rpm 3500 rpm brought the temperature right back down. iow if you overheated with your load you screwed up. i didnt. but lots of people did. i towed my trailer with the aerostar through 4th of july pass and independence day pass in idaho without any pr

From : clare snyder on cagary glaenzer

on tue 30 sep 2003 234245 gmt jerry jnospamlrice@earthlink.net wrote clare wrote every reply ive had on this group seems to come from a jerk with a chip on his shoulder that would sink the queen mary. i thought being a mechanic and former dodge owner id be able to lend a hand. too bad. careful now youre using an awful broad paintbrush just because of one jackass. btw some of the newer after market valve bodies allow higher line pressure while at idle in gear and in park for better cooling. dont need the extra plumbing that way. jerry and if the oem stuff wasnt somewhere between questionable and junk there would not be a need for the aftermarket parts - either valve bodies aux pumps or fan colled oil coolers. id sooner put on extra cooling than have to pull the tranny apart and install modified valve bodies shift kits etc. on the new electric shift stuff there are even reprogrammed pcms available to give better performance/durability. .

From : gary glaenzer

now you blew it. th 350 / 400s are also tough 3 speed transmissions nearly as good as t-flites. the c-4 and c-6 fords are also good transmissions also are three speeds. the only commonly reoccurring prob ive seen on any of these are the routing of the vacuum modulator line on some fords too close to the hot exhaust pipes. have you ever run a snow plough on a chevy or a ford or towed a heavy trailer with one. ever seen a chevy motorhome go over 160000 miles without a tranny rebuild virtually every one ive looked at in the last 3 years has been advertised with a rebuilt transmission the standard c6 took out planet gears. they came out with a heavy duty carrier with more gears made of stronger stuff just to make them get through a season. the th350 was just as bad and without auxilliary coolers is a pretty fragile piece. bullshit the c6 and 400 are as tough as a 727 the 350 is as good as or better than a 904 and much better than a c4 as for the ford od transmissions and the gm od transmissions some fail just like some mopar 4 speeds but most never give a lick of trouble. the percentages of failure arent all that high or youd be seeing a big government backed investigation. in normal use they are generally reasonable but in heavy duty use there are definitely problems - mostly heat related but not all with the fwd gm trannies the drive cage is pretty fragile - and the spline if you want to call it that that the planetaries fit into tends to fracture. when mine was in for a rebuild because the drive cage split the tranny shop had 2 others on the rack when mine came in and 3 more by the time mine left 2 days later. this is eccentuated by the problem they have with the torque converter lockup regulator - it wears out the case to the point it gets sloppy and erratic causing the lockup clutch to chatter. the chatter doesnt help the drive cage any - and there is now a heavy duty replacement drive cage available as well as a sleeve kit for the tc reg. ford winstars and taurus transmissions are just about as fragile and trouble prone as their 3.8l engines too. ive put close to a million miles on torqueflites. really you dont sound old enough. well im well past my 50th birthday. have had my mechanics licence since 1971 never had to rebuild one 904 or 727. i have and ive had two fail but one failure was my fault not the transmissions and the other was due to a strike at chrysler that caused a 727 case to not get cleaned properly during assembly. ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal well you were spinning a pretty good line of bullshit up to this point but you tried just al ittle to hard to push the envelope the a4ld has no accumulators as such..........all it uses is a dual-seal servo piston for the 2nd and 4th band popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. learn how its spelled if you expect to fool anyone the accumulator was on the fist van the rest on the second. 100000 on the first one and 240000 on the second before i sold them and over 200000 on the first one before it was scrapped sold it to a friend my 1988 chrysler 3 speed got nasty at about 198000 so i replaced it with one from a low mileage spirit just over a year ago. my pontiac transsport 3.8 4 speed just split the drive cage last month at about 295000 - and has had the differential replaced twice under warrantee before i bought it. torqueflites on 63 valliant 69 dart 2 ramblers 1976 ramcharger and 1974 dart sport all went over 100000 miles each with no failures. and i ploughed snow with the ramcharger. ill agree they are tough - i flogged the tail off the ramcharger ploughing snow - never a problem - but on transmissions with any reliability problems heat is the worst enemy. and particularly for those towing trailers in heavy traffic the aux pump and cooler can be a real lifesaver. what freaking auxiliary pump are you talking about yes i agree you cant cool any transmission including manual transmissions enough and heat can be a problem but you have yet to definitively prove any of your claims. there is a pump that can be installed in the cooling line of the transmission to circulate the oil through the cooler. the internal pump does that just fine it is also used on towed or toad cars with automatic transmissions when hauled behind motor homes. dont have the manufacturer available at the moment. as far as proving anything i dont have to. its not my motorhome or trailer towing vehicle that is going to be sitting at the side of the road with a toasted tranny because i didnt believe what id been told. dont hurt on a torqueflite either. particularly when its 110f in the shade and you are pulling a 32 foot house trailer through rushhour traffic on a lonnggg grade - heading up. i think an 8000 + lb u-haul trailer on a 79 d-150 with an 1140 pound o

From : jerry

gary glaenzer wrote not to whiz on your parade but higher line pressure translates into less cooler flow in a tf pump pressure regulator valve clutch packs 1st priority converter charge 2nd priority cooler lube circuit really seems a couple transmission experts would disagree. here is what dtt and ats say their valve bodies do for you.. * increased atf flow through coolers resulting in lower atf temperatures * better shift quality * longer atf life * torque converter lockup in 2nd 3rd and 4th gears * lockup maintained during shift from 4th to 3rd this is especially nice during engine braking * no converter drain-back when truck is sitting for an extended period of time * transmission oiling in park good for owners who with trucks that sit idling for long periods of time to me that means more pressure to the clutch packs which means less slippage which translates into lower temperatures. it also means lubrication in park which is something presently not possible. naw......... you didnt whiz on anything. jerry .

From : gary glaenzer

gary glaenzer wrote not to whiz on your parade but higher line pressure translates into less cooler flow in a tf pump pressure regulator valve clutch packs 1st priority converter charge 2nd priority cooler lube circuit really seems a couple transmission experts would disagree. here is what dtt and ats say their valve bodies do for you.. * increased atf flow through coolers resulting in lower atf temperatures * better shift quality * longer atf life * torque converter lockup in 2nd 3rd and 4th gears * lockup maintained during shift from 4th to 3rd this is especially nice during engine braking * no converter drain-back when truck is sitting for an extended period of time * transmission oiling in park good for owners who with trucks that sit idling for long periods of time to me that means more pressure to the clutch packs which means less slippage which translates into lower temperatures. it also means lubrication in park which is something presently not possible. naw......... you didnt whiz on anything. none of which contradicts what i said first priority from p.r. valve is pressure to clamp clutch packs; then converter charge which goes to cooler and becomes lube nice try but no cigar; but ill be more than happy to explain whatever part of the hydraulic circuits in a 904/a500 or 727/a518 is not clear to you .

From : jerry

clare wrote and if the oem stuff wasnt somewhere between questionable and junk there would not be a need for the aftermarket parts - either valve bodies aux pumps or fan colled oil coolers. now you are starting to whine and sound ridiculous. the majority of dc oem transmission outlast the vehicle. you just dont see anyone posting their opinions about something that is not giving them trouble only the few problem ones. id sooner put on extra cooling than have to pull the tranny apart and install modified valve bodies shift kits etc. on the new electric shift stuff there are even reprogrammed pcms available to give better performance/durability. i thought you said you were a transmission tech you make it sound like you would have to drop the trans to change out the valve body. im certainly not a trans tech but i dont see the difficulty in swapping out a valve body. as for these electric shift stuff as you call them if there is a way to program the pcm for the 47re for performance and durability id sure like to know about it. i see where you have been asked twice about this aux pump you keeping mentioning but have failed to answer. id kind of like to hear about that also. jerry .

From : jerrygary glaenzer

gary glaenzer wrote none of which contradicts what i said first priority from p.r. valve is pressure to clamp clutch packs; then converter charge which goes to cooler and becomes lube nice try but no cigar; but ill be more than happy to explain whatever part of the hydraulic circuits in a 904/a500 or 727/a518 is not clear to you yes it does where is the less cooler flow since i dont smoke cigars i dont need a lesson in transmission hydraulics and could care less. my comment was the new after market valve bodies increases line pressure and lubrication in park. all of that translates into cooler and more efficient operation transmission and no insult intended gary but ill take the word of ats and dtt over anyone that posts in here thank you. jerry .

From : gary glaenzer

gary glaenzer wrote none of which contradicts what i said first priority from p.r. valve is pressure to clamp clutch packs; then converter charge which goes to cooler and becomes lube nice try but no cigar; but ill be more than happy to explain whatever part of the hydraulic circuits in a 904/a500 or 727/a518 is not clear to you yes it does where is the less cooler flow higher pressure to clutch packs = more leakage around sealing rings and piston seals = less fluid left over for converter charge/cooler flow/lube is that simple enough since i dont smoke cigars i dont need a lesson in transmission hydraulics and could care less. obviously....it is pretty apparent from your lack of in-depth knowledge as your reliance on the sales pitches in the internet proves my comment was the new after market valve bodies increases line pressure and lubrication in park. and my original post referred to factory set-ups learn to distinguish between the two and you are on your way to understanding what i said my offer to enlighten you still stands however all of that translates into cooler and more efficient operation transmission and no insult intended gary but ill take the word of ats and dtt over anyone that posts in here thank you. yes youve shown over and over that internet fables are your first choice when it comes to what you believe .

From : budd cochran

clare wrote seems to me all you dodge truckers have an attitude problem - bunch of red-neck trailer trash bubbas. i have a problem with incorrect info and youve been giving plenty. btw its better to be redneck trailer trash than anything resembling you. every reply ive had on this group seems to come from a jerk with a chip on his shoulder that would sink the queen mary. i thought being a mechanic and former dodge owner id be able to lend a hand. give correct advice and theres no problem. you havent and yet you act like we should be begging you to dole out your words of wisdom to the starving masses. sorry but us rednecks is too durn independent. now do you want to guess again who has that chip too bad. yep its your loss not ours. budd .

From : budd cochran

oh my. calling me a name because you chose to be vague about the technique you suggest its not proper technique to use only the drive position with any heavily loaded automatic. check the owners manual if you dont want to believe me. coasting in neutral with a heavy load is also an incorrect procedure. again check the manual or any of a bunch of semi truck drivers that have been killed over the years by coasting down a hill in neutral one time to many. if the engine is at operating temperature why is it at fast idle you sure have a bunch of problems with your vehicles. sorry you lose. goodbye. budd clare wrote no you jackass. you put it in low or drive or whatever and let it move a carlength or two then shift it into neutral or park if you want and wait for traffic to move again. when you have another couple carlengths available you slip it back into drive or low and move ahead again. neutral works better than park because you can let it roll a bit if the road slope is right. ramming in and out of park on the roll is no good and you may as well let it coast when it will and can. the important part is you are not sitting there in drive or low at a fast idle trying to creep along. .

From : jerry

gary glaenzer wrote higher pressure to clutch packs = more leakage around sealing rings and piston seals = less fluid left over for converter charge/cooler flow/lube is that simple enough for your mind im sure most things are simple. excess leakage my ass. nice try gary ....... obviously....it is pretty apparent from your lack of in-depth knowledge as your reliance on the sales pitches in the internet proves lack of knowledge and reliance on sales pitch............ youre talking about two of the largest and most respected transmission builders around and you want me to take the word of some shade tree mechanic that works out of his one car garage over theirs........ you crack me up. and my original post referred to factory set-ups and my comment was for after market equipment ......... you do know the difference dont you ......... of course you dont. learn to distinguish between the two and you are on your way to understanding what i said take your own advice gary. my offer to enlighten you still stands however how refer me to someone that knows something. yes youve shown over and over that internet fables are your first choice when it comes to what you believe thats funny .......... this is coming from the guy that puts lube guard dexron and 30 wt. motor oil in his chrysler transmission. for all i know you even have karo syrup in there also. give me a break ....... now you were hell bent for a friggin fight gary so just keep coming back and ill do my best to accommodate you. jerry .

From : budd cochran

clare wrote have you ever run a snow plough on a chevy or a ford nope just the pos s-10 4x4 with 8 blade my boss at the gm dealership had to plow the lot with. it sucked. or towed a heavy trailer with one. duh!!! im in a mopar dodge group here. where are you which planet did you say ever seen a chevy motorhome go over 160000 miles without a tranny rebuild yep. virtually every one ive looked at in the last 3 years has been advertised with a rebuilt transmission so the standard c6 took out planet gears. if you kept revving the engine in neutral and dropping it in gear neutral starts to burn the tires. never saw one fail any other way. they came out with a heavy duty carrier with more gears made of stronger stuff just to make them get through a season. so the th350 was just as bad and without auxilliary coolers is a pretty fragile piece. bull. ive raced against too many and lost to believe this stuff. and they were back week after week after week . . . in normal use they are generally reasonable but in heavy duty use there are definitely problems - mostly heat related but not all bull. i know of several that have the autos tow large loads with them and have no probs. next piece of bull please. with the fwd gm trannies the drive cage is pretty fragile - and the spline if you want to call it that that the planetaries fit into tends to fracture. thats gm not mopar. when mine was in for a rebuild because the drive cage split the tranny shop had 2 others on the rack when mine came in and 3 more by the time mine left 2 days later. so what were doing to make the cage split i have a friend running a stock 400 with over 80k miles on it behind a 425 hp 409 0.060 over that once hauled his 58 impala thru the quarter in 12.5. hes had no probs in his 27 t-bucket. this is eccentuated by the problem they have with the torque converter lockup regulator - it wears out the case to the point it gets sloppy and erratic causing the lockup clutch to chatter. the chatter doesnt help the drive cage any - and there is now a heavy duty replacement drive cage available as well as a sleeve kit for the tc reg. again whats this have to do with dodge trucks btw its accentuated. ford winstars and taurus transmissions are just about as fragile and trouble prone as their 3.8l engines too. and this is important to a caravan owner in what way really you dont sound old enough. well im well past my 50th birthday. have had my mechanics licence since 1971 im 56 and have never had a mechanics license but ive done heavy equipment repair built two successful racing mopars one with a with stock auto worked on small engines owned three successful businesses and wrote two books. having a mechanics license only means in some cases you passed the test. it doesnt automatically make you an expert on transmissions. ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. the accumulator was on the fist van the rest on the second. 100000 on the first one and 240000 on the second before i sold them and over 200000 on the first one before it was scrapped sold it to a friend and just how many billions of miles do you think a trans should be good for good grief!!!! my 1988 chrysler 3 speed got nasty at about 198000 so i replaced it with one from a low mileage spirit just over a year ago. that wasnt enough mileage sheeesh!!!! my pontiac transsport 3.8 4 speed just split the drive cage last month at about 295000 - and has had the differential replaced twice under warrantee before i bought it. doesnt apply to chrysler vehicles but again how many zillions of miles do you want out of a transmission torqueflites on 63 valliant 69 dart 2 ramblers 1976 ramcharger and 1974 dart sport all went over 100000 miles each with no failures. and i ploughed snow with the ramcharger. rotflmbo!!!!!!!!!!! with these over 100k was just fine 200k out of the chrysler wasnt nearly enough . . .you are a hypocrite. ill agree they are tough - i flogged the tail off the ramcharger ploughing snow - never a problem - but on transmissions with any reliability problems heat is the worst enemy. and particularly for those towing trailers in heavy traffic the aux pump and cooler can be a real lifesaver. hypocrite. there is a pump that can be installed in the cooling line of the transmission to circulate the oil through the cooler. it is also used on towed or toad cars with automatic transmissions when hauled behind motor homes. dont have the manufacturer available at the moment. ok now i understand but you repeatedly forgot to explain this. btw for even heavy duty use like towing 10k pounds over vail pass the pump wasnt needed. . . at least not in my dodge. as far as proving anything i dont have to. its not my motorhome or t

From : gary glaenzer

gary glaenzer wrote higher pressure to clutch packs = more leakage around sealing rings and piston seals = less fluid left over for converter charge/cooler flow/lube is that simple enough for your mind im sure most things are simple. excess leakage my ass. nice try gary ....... well youve just proven that you;ve never done an air check of a set of tf drums on the front pump if you had youd see how much the seal rings leak obviously....it is pretty apparent from your lack of in-depth knowledge as your reliance on the sales pitches in the internet proves lack of knowledge and reliance on sales pitch............ youre talking about two of the largest and most respected transmission builders around and you want me to take the word of some shade tree mechanic that works out of his one car garage over theirs........ you crack me up. if theyre so well known how come theyre not trade names and my original post referred to factory set-ups and my comment was for after market equipment ......... you do know the difference dont you ......... of course you dont. well you need to learn to specify what youre talking about then it wont be so easy to demolish your bullshit learn to distinguish between the two and you are on your way to understanding what i said take your own advice gary. my offer to enlighten you still stands however how refer me to someone that knows something. care to discuss the action of the accumulator inside the intermediate band servo on a 727 yes youve shown over and over that internet fables are your first choice when it comes to what you believe thats funny .......... this is coming from the guy that puts lube guard dexron and 30 wt. motor oil in his chrysler transmission. for all i know you even have karo syrup in there also. give me a break never treid it dont knock it......... ...... now you were hell bent for a friggin fight gary so just keep coming back and ill do my best to accommodate you. how by more name-calling that seems to be your best shot and only shot .

From : mac davisjerry

on tue 30 sep 2003 121637 -0700 tim miser timmiserno@spmyahoo.com wrote bottom line is that were probably averaging 15 weekends a month and wont be trying to get anywhere especially up hills in a hurry... man i wish i could average 15 weekends a month! ; -tim well you know that its gonna be out a lot when we 1st get it.. lol were hoping that it will be a year round thing where our tent camper is a may to october thing... no snow here so were hoping to do better than 1 weekend a month especially since the home park of our camping club is less than 40 miles away.. .

From : jerry

gary glaenzer wrote well youve just proven that you;ve never done an air check of a set of tf drums on the front pump if you had youd see how much the seal rings leak never said i had dont expect i ever will. only talking about a few pounds pressure increase and you act like no - you even said there would be less fluid for cooling because of excess leakage. who you been taking spin lessons from gary. if theyre so well known how come theyre not trade names what planet you living on well you need to learn to specify what youre talking about then it wont be so easy to demolish your bullshit what part of after market was it that escaped your mind gary. even the original poster was talking about adding aux pumps and so on and now you want to say but on gee golly i was talking about factory set ups. youre a real hoot. care to discuss the action of the accumulator inside the intermediate band servo on a 727 what the hell for has nothing to do with your silly leakage story anyway and besides who cares. never treid it dont knock it......... yeah right........ how by more name-calling that seems to be your best shot and only shot talking about yourself again gary ........... you gotta stop doing that. jerry .

From : budd cochran

clare wrote and if the oem stuff wasnt somewhere between questionable and junk there would not be a need for the aftermarket parts - either valve bodies aux pumps or fan colled oil coolers. what i find amazing is that you make this wild statement based on what rumors in groups have you ever bothered to talk to dodge owners and simply ask about any complaints i have over 600 in fact and none lend any credence to your claims. id sooner put on extra cooling than have to pull the tranny apart and install modified valve bodies shift kits etc. on the new electric shift stuff there are even reprogrammed pcms available to give better performance/durability. now which aftermarket manufacturer do you work for youre sure trying hard to make everyone think their transmissions are going to blowup sitting in the driveway . . . you have to be selling them. that would make you a spammer. budd .

From : tbone

clare wrote and if the oem stuff wasnt somewhere between questionable and junk there would not be a need for the aftermarket parts - either valve bodies aux pumps or fan colled oil coolers. what i find amazing is that you make this wild statement based on what rumors in groups have you ever bothered to talk to dodge owners and simply ask about any complaints i have over 600 in fact and none lend any credence to your claims. lol here we go with the lies again. first it was the large group of japanese wwii american holding camp victims that you interviewed or talked to that didnt mind losing family members and all of their possessions for no valid reason besides government paranoia. what a load of crap. now it is over 600 dodge owners yea right. were these the same people that were in the camps lol where did you meet then and for what purpose this time id sooner put on extra cooling than have to pull the tranny apart and install modified valve bodies shift kits etc. on the new electric shift stuff there are even reprogrammed pcms available to give better performance/durability. now which aftermarket manufacturer do you work for youre sure trying hard to make everyone think their transmissions are going to blowup sitting in the driveway . . . you have to be selling them. gee yet another accusation based on no fact at all imagine that! that would make you a spammer budd -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

tom its not at all important what you believe or dont believe. i dont think i could care less about it. budd .

From : tbone

then why did you respond -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tom its not at all important what you believe or dont believe. i dont think i could care less about it. budd .

From : gary glaenzer

personal attack snipped you have proven beyond all doubt that you prefer personal attacks to facts good bye .

From : jerry

gary glaenzer wrote - all bs snipped hey the original post of yours said nothing about aftermarket i can re-post it in its entirety if youd like a bit more humiliation........ ill save you the trouble numb nuts here it is clare wrote every reply ive had on this group seems to come from a jerk with a chip on his shoulder that would sink the queen mary. i thought being a mechanic and former dodge owner id be able to lend a hand. too bad. jerry wrote careful now youre using an awful broad paintbrush just because of one jackass. btw some of the newer after market valve bodies allow higher line pressure while at idle in gear and in park for better cooling. dont need the extra plumbing that way. jerry now go back pick up all your toys and play in your sandbox little boy. jerry .

From : clare snyder on ca

on wed 01 oct 2003 014113 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote now you blew it. th 350 / 400s are also tough 3 speed transmissions nearly as good as t-flites. the c-4 and c-6 fords are also good transmissions also are three speeds. the only commonly reoccurring prob ive seen on any of these are the routing of the vacuum modulator line on some fords too close to the hot exhaust pipes. have you ever run a snow plough on a chevy or a ford or towed a heavy trailer with one. ever seen a chevy motorhome go over 160000 miles without a tranny rebuild virtually every one ive looked at in the last 3 years has been advertised with a rebuilt transmission the standard c6 took out planet gears. they came out with a heavy duty carrier with more gears made of stronger stuff just to make them get through a season. the th350 was just as bad and without auxilliary coolers is a pretty fragile piece. bullshit the c6 and 400 are as tough as a 727 tell that to the judge. the 350 is as good as or better than a 904 and much better than a c4 if you say so. ill take a 904 over a th350 any day of the year - as for the ford od transmissions and the gm od transmissions some fail just like some mopar 4 speeds but most never give a lick of trouble. the percentages of failure arent all that high or youd be seeing a big government backed investigation. in normal use they are generally reasonable but in heavy duty use there are definitely problems - mostly heat related but not all with the fwd gm trannies the drive cage is pretty fragile - and the spline if you want to call it that that the planetaries fit into tends to fracture. when mine was in for a rebuild because the drive cage split the tranny shop had 2 others on the rack when mine came in and 3 more by the time mine left 2 days later. this is eccentuated by the problem they have with the torque converter lockup regulator - it wears out the case to the point it gets sloppy and erratic causing the lockup clutch to chatter. the chatter doesnt help the drive cage any - and there is now a heavy duty replacement drive cage available as well as a sleeve kit for the tc reg. ford winstars and taurus transmissions are just about as fragile and trouble prone as their 3.8l engines too. ive put close to a million miles on torqueflites. really you dont sound old enough. well im well past my 50th birthday. have had my mechanics licence since 1971 never had to rebuild one 904 or 727. i have and ive had two fail but one failure was my fault not the transmissions and the other was due to a strike at chrysler that caused a 727 case to not get cleaned properly during assembly. ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal well you were spinning a pretty good line of bullshit up to this point but you tried just al ittle to hard to push the envelope the a4ld has no accumulators as such..........all it uses is a dual-seal servo piston for the 2nd and 4th band ok what do you call the devices with the two little covers on the right side of the tranny held in with snap rings about 3+ inches in diameter. the little beggars that are almost impossible to remove without dropping the y pipe they are aluminum with rubber o rings that like to leak. inside is a spring and a piston. popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. learn how its spelled if you expect to fool anyone and just how pray tell me do you spell sprague it has always been s p r a g u e . look it up. the accumulator was on the fist van the rest on the second. 100000 on the first one and 240000 on the second before i sold them and over 200000 on the first one before it was scrapped sold it to a friend my 1988 chrysler 3 speed got nasty at about 198000 so i replaced it with one from a low mileage spirit just over a year ago. my pontiac transsport 3.8 4 speed just split the drive cage last month at about 295000 - and has had the differential replaced twice under warrantee before i bought it. torqueflites on 63 valliant 69 dart 2 ramblers 1976 ramcharger and 1974 dart sport all went over 100000 miles each with no failures. and i ploughed snow with the ramcharger. ill agree they are tough - i flogged the tail off the ramcharger ploughing snow - never a problem - but on transmissions with any reliability problems heat is the worst enemy. and particularly for those towing trailers in heavy traffic the aux pump and cooler can be a real lifesaver. what freaking auxiliary pump are you talking about yes i agree you cant cool any transmission including manual transmissions enough and heat can be a problem but you have yet to definitively prove any of your claims. there is a pump that can be installed in the cooling line of the transmission to circulate the oil through the cooler. the internal pump does that just fine under normal conditions yes.

From : will

whatever it is locked up my netscape 4 times. budd crooked-ridez wrote sorry your wrong. this isnt spam. spam would be off topic. this is on topic. im just posting a link for other to see. im not trying to sell you anything. sorry you feel that way. automotive community for all types of vehicles come over and have a look. no advertising pop-ups or any other trash. http//www.crooked-ridez.com no ads pop-ups or trash.......just spam. .

From : tbone

tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote actually starting off puts far more stress on the clutch then engine braking unless you are an idiot and try to use second gear at 60 mph to slow down. stress and wear are two entirely different things. and in case you havent noticed using the clutch to start out is essentially mandatory using it to slow the vehicle is optional. the optional part is based upon some myth that equates that what might be desireable when decending a mountain grade because of necessity is also a good thing to do at every given opportunity. i believe it to be one of the sub-rules of mores law what states if more is good too much is just right. i have over 80000 miles and engine brake all of the time and so far no problems and still the factory clutch. proves nothing. why would you replace the pressure plate unless you gouged it in 33 years as a mechanic i have yet to see on that wasnt gouged at the time the friction disc needed replacement. do you replace the drums and rotors every time you replace the pads and shoes absolutely. seems the chinese can make a brake rotor and supply it to me cheaper than the local prevailing labor rates allow for re-machining a used one. also one doesnt need to search very long to find replacement brake friction material with a lifetime warranty not surprisingly similar warranties on clutch friction material seem to be non-existant. i wonder why i realize down shifting and engine braking is all macho and it almost makes it seem like your driving one of those big rigs with a jake brake on it and having three whole pedals there on the floor can make things mighty confusing at times but the honest to gosh truth is all three of the fleets i mechaniced at would fire a driver on the spot if they were caught using the clutch as a brake in normal stop and go driving. it all comes back to that old saying about a fool and his money. .

From : warthog

hello i have a 2000 dodge ram 2500 v10 8l. it appears the catylict converter on one side has a loose internal plate. i figure if i need to replace the catt i might as well look into replacing the whole system. any pros or cons for installing headers how about any sensors on the exhaust system how do i handle them and will it effect the engine what other problems will i run into thanks ahead of time ron .

From : clare snyder on ca

on thu 02 oct 2003 001651 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote on wed 01 oct 2003 014113 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal well you were spinning a pretty good line of bullshit up to this point but you tried just al ittle to hard to push the envelope the a4ld has no accumulators as such..........all it uses is a dual-seal servo piston for the 2nd and 4th band ok what do you call the devices with the two little covers on the right side of the tranny held in with snap rings about 3+ inches in diameter. the little beggars that are almost impossible to remove without dropping the y pipe they are aluminum with rubber o rings that like to leak. inside is a spring and a piston. those are the servo pistons for the 2nd and 4th bands if you want to really stretch the definition of accumulator you can call the back side of the intermediate 2nd piston an accumulator for 3rd but in reality the accumulator function is done by valves in the valve body on the a4 popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. learn how its spelled if you expect to fool anyone and just how pray tell me do you spell sprague it has always been s p r a g u e . look it up. its called a sprag sprague is a manufacturer of capacitors according to mts systems corporation www.mts.com it is a sprague. they do testing and development for the automotive industry. go to http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 nichols mfg calls them spragues as well. see http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 so does pawnee aviation - see http//pawneeaviation.com/drivesystem.htm the government of australia thinks so too. see http//www.casa.gov.au/avreg/aircraft/awb/63/002.htm and hewitt racing at http//www.inertiadynos.com i know where you are coming from - and your spelling is also proper - as a sprag is a wooden block used to hold a wagon from rolling away- or a stick poked through the spokes of a wheel to keep it from turning. a search on the internet for sprague clutch turns up about 2950 hits. and for sprag clutch over 12000. its the old question is it color or colour tire or tyre neighbour or neighborbenzene or benzine .. neither is wrong. .

From : napalm heart

on thu 02 oct 2003 001651 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote on wed 01 oct 2003 014113 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal well you were spinning a pretty good line of bullshit up to this point but you tried just al ittle to hard to push the envelope the a4ld has no accumulators as such..........all it uses is a dual-seal servo piston for the 2nd and 4th band ok what do you call the devices with the two little covers on the right side of the tranny held in with snap rings about 3+ inches in diameter. the little beggars that are almost impossible to remove without dropping the y pipe they are aluminum with rubber o rings that like to leak. inside is a spring and a piston. those are the servo pistons for the 2nd and 4th bands if you want to really stretch the definition of accumulator you can call the back side of the intermediate 2nd piston an accumulator for 3rd but in reality the accumulator function is done by valves in the valve body on the a4 popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. learn how its spelled if you expect to fool anyone and just how pray tell me do you spell sprague it has always been s p r a g u e . look it up. its called a sprag sprague is a manufacturer of capacitors according to mts systems corporation www.mts.com it is a sprague. they do testing and development for the automotive industry. go to http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 nichols mfg calls them spragues as well. see http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 so does pawnee aviation - see http//pawneeaviation.com/drivesystem.htm the government of australia thinks so too. see http//www.casa.gov.au/avreg/aircraft/awb/63/002.htm and hewitt racing at http//www.inertiadynos.com i know where you are coming from - and your spelling is also proper - as a sprag is a wooden block used to hold a wagon from rolling away- or a stick poked through the spokes of a wheel to keep it from turning. a search on the internet for sprague clutch turns up about 2950 hits. and for sprag clutch over 12000. its the old question is it color or colour tire or tyre neighbour or neighborbenzene or benzine .. neither is wrong. different forms in different locations is all it is. a small nit to pick. ken .

From : budd cochran

not really such a small nit. chrysler tech and repair manuals and chilton repair manuals for the 727 and 904 and probably all the later versions as well call it a sprag an overrunning clutch or a one-way clutch. it doesnt call it a sprague. if you wrote sprague in a complaint letter to a dealership tech he probably wouldnt know what you mean. budd napalm heart wrote on thu 02 oct 2003 001651 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote on wed 01 oct 2003 014113 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal well you were spinning a pretty good line of bullshit up to this point but you tried just al ittle to hard to push the envelope the a4ld has no accumulators as such..........all it uses is a dual-seal servo piston for the 2nd and 4th band ok what do you call the devices with the two little covers on the right side of the tranny held in with snap rings about 3+ inches in diameter. the little beggars that are almost impossible to remove without dropping the y pipe they are aluminum with rubber o rings that like to leak. inside is a spring and a piston. those are the servo pistons for the 2nd and 4th bands if you want to really stretch the definition of accumulator you can call the back side of the intermediate 2nd piston an accumulator for 3rd but in reality the accumulator function is done by valves in the valve body on the a4 popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. learn how its spelled if you expect to fool anyone and just how pray tell me do you spell sprague it has always been s p r a g u e . look it up. its called a sprag sprague is a manufacturer of capacitors according to mts systems corporation www.mts.com it is a sprague. they do testing and development for the automotive industry. go to http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 nichols mfg calls them spragues as well. see http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 so does pawnee aviation - see http//pawneeaviation.com/drivesystem.htm the government of australia thinks so too. see http//www.casa.gov.au/avreg/aircraft/awb/63/002.htm and hewitt racing at http//www.inertiadynos.com i know where you are coming from - and your spelling is also proper - as a sprag is a wooden block used to hold a wagon from rolling away- or a stick poked through the spokes of a wheel to keep it from turning. a search on the internet for sprague clutch turns up about 2950 hits. and for sprag clutch over 12000. its the old question is it color or colour tire or tyre neighbour or neighborbenzene or benzine .. neither is wrong. different forms in different locations is all it is. a small nit to pick. ken .

From : clare snyder on ca

on sat 4 oct 2003 075035 -0400 napalm heart olsonfam*nospam*@iserv.net wrote on thu 02 oct 2003 001651 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote on wed 01 oct 2003 014113 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal well you were spinning a pretty good line of bullshit up to this point but you tried just al ittle to hard to push the envelope the a4ld has no accumulators as such..........all it uses is a dual-seal servo piston for the 2nd and 4th band ok what do you call the devices with the two little covers on the right side of the tranny held in with snap rings about 3+ inches in diameter. the little beggars that are almost impossible to remove without dropping the y pipe they are aluminum with rubber o rings that like to leak. inside is a spring and a piston. those are the servo pistons for the 2nd and 4th bands if you want to really stretch the definition of accumulator you can call the back side of the intermediate 2nd piston an accumulator for 3rd but in reality the accumulator function is done by valves in the valve body on the a4 popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. learn how its spelled if you expect to fool anyone and just how pray tell me do you spell sprague it has always been s p r a g u e . look it up. its called a sprag sprague is a manufacturer of capacitors according to mts systems corporation www.mts.com it is a sprague. they do testing and development for the automotive industry. go to http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 nichols mfg calls them spragues as well. see http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 so does pawnee aviation - see http//pawneeaviation.com/drivesystem.htm the government of australia thinks so too. see http//www.casa.gov.au/avreg/aircraft/awb/63/002.htm and hewitt racing at http//www.inertiadynos.com i know where you are coming from - and your spelling is also proper - as a sprag is a wooden block used to hold a wagon from rolling away- or a stick poked through the spokes of a wheel to keep it from turning. a search on the internet for sprague clutch turns up about 2950 hits. and for sprag clutch over 12000. its the old question is it color or colour tire or tyre neighbour or neighborbenzene or benzine .. neither is wrong. different forms in different locations is all it is. a small nit to pick. ken and it wasnt me who started picking at it. .

From : clare snyder on ca

on sat 04 oct 2003 202029 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote not really such a small nit. chrysler tech and repair manuals and chilton repair manuals for the 727 and 904 and probably all the later versions as well call it a sprag an overrunning clutch or a one-way clutch. it doesnt call it a sprague. if you wrote sprague in a complaint letter to a dealership tech he probably wouldnt know what you mean. budd you know they are not all as dumb as you seam to imply. if they are under 40 years of age there is a very good chance they have trouble spelling anything more unfamilliar than their own names but would recognaize any of about 5 spellings as being the same word. chalk that up to the whole language method of teaching that was so much in vogue on the left coat in the late seventies and which spread across n. america through the eighties. and morse is very carefull to refer to theirs as either roller ramp or cam type clutches staying away from the sprague nomenclature which is a registered trade mark of sprague devices inc michigan city indiana or sprag which is a nondefinitive generic term. sprague devices is not to be cofused with commonwealth sprague of north adams ma. the capacitor manufacturer oir sprague magnetics the manufacturer of tape heads or the sprague oil company sprague roofing or any of a host of other companies either formed by those of the sprague family or on or near either sprague road or the sprague river or any other geographic location carrying the name of the emminent old new england family by that name. anyway enough of this bs. a rose by any other name etc. etc. etc. napalm heart wrote on thu 02 oct 2003 001651 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote on wed 01 oct 2003 014113 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote ive had the 4 speed automatic in my aerostars let me down 3 times - blew an accumulator seal well you were spinning a pretty good line of bullshit up to this point but you tried just al ittle to hard to push the envelope the a4ld has no accumulators as such..........all it uses is a dual-seal servo piston for the 2nd and 4th band ok what do you call the devices with the two little covers on the right side of the tranny held in with snap rings about 3+ inches in diameter. the little beggars that are almost impossible to remove without dropping the y pipe they are aluminum with rubber o rings that like to leak. inside is a spring and a piston. those are the servo pistons for the 2nd and 4th bands if you want to really stretch the definition of accumulator you can call the back side of the intermediate 2nd piston an accumulator for 3rd but in reality the accumulator function is done by valves in the valve body on the a4 popped the front pump tq seal and took out the front sprague. learn how its spelled if you expect to fool anyone and just how pray tell me do you spell sprague it has always been s p r a g u e . look it up. its called a sprag sprague is a manufacturer of capacitors according to mts systems corporation www.mts.com it is a sprague. they do testing and development for the automotive industry. go to http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 nichols mfg calls them spragues as well. see http//www.mts.com/menusystem.aspdatasource=0&nodeid=1497 so does pawnee aviation - see http//pawneeaviation.com/drivesystem.htm the government of australia thinks so too. see http//www.casa.gov.au/avreg/aircraft/awb/63/002.htm and hewitt racing at http//www.inertiadynos.com i know where you are coming from - and your spelling is also proper - as a sprag is a wooden block used to hold a wagon from rolling away- or a stick poked through the spokes of a wheel to keep it from turning. a search on the internet for sprague clutch turns up about 2950 hits. and for sprag clutch over 12000. its the old question is it color or colour tire or tyre neighbour or neighborbenzene or benzine .. neither is wrong. different forms in different locations is all it is. a small nit to pick. ken .

From : budd cochran

i agree but im still waiting for you to quit acting like your gods gift to mopar transmissions even after youve been shown your not. if want to ask someone that has proven himself to be knowledgeable on mopars ill ask gary g. goodbye budd clare scribbled in a futile effort to save face you know they are not all as dumb as you seam to imply. if they are under 40 years of age there is a very good chance they have trouble spelling anything more unfamilliar than their own names but would recognaize any of about 5 spellings as being the same word. chalk that up to the whole language method of teaching that was so much in vogue on the left coat in the late seventies and which spread across n. america through the eighties. and morse is very carefull to refer to theirs as either roller ramp or cam type clutches staying away from the sprague nomenclature which is a registered trade mark of sprague devices inc michigan city indiana or sprag which is a nondefinitive generic term. sprague devices is not to be cofused with commonwealth sprague of north adams ma. the capacitor manufacturer oir sprague magnetics the manufacturer of tape heads or the sprague oil company sprague roofing or any of a host of other companies either formed by those of the sprague family or on or near either sprague road or the sprague river or any other geographic location carrying the name of the emminent old new england family by that name. anyway enough of this bs. a rose by any other name etc. etc. etc. .

From : budd cochran

aint that the truth. budd redneck tookover hell wrote as you probably have i have known guys who have forgotten more than this clown has shown us he knows about transmissions i agree but im still waiting for you to quit acting like your gods gift to mopar transmissions even after youve been shown your not. a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .

From : redneck tookover hell

a 1962 superstock 413 was a max wedge stage 1 with the crossram 2 carter afbs. it had 14 to 1 compression the max wedge heads cam cast iron headers. etc rated at 420 hp dodge did not make the fury that was a plymouth 1962 fuel injected corvette 327 365hp cars weighed approximately the same you do the math da money was on the street as in yo you wanna run for a $20 that indusrial engine doesnt remotely resemble the passenger car engines and very few parts interchange. the regular torqueflight doesnt fit since the flange on the crank is in a different location. worth not much probalbly get more money selling it by the pound for scrap iron i was talking about the restored ss dodge that t-bone mentioned having a match race with a corvette. was curious if the ss was a elephant and the corvette a mouse. guess it was in a mopar mag. roy .

From : jerry

since the dodges and plymouths in 1962 were downsized from the previous year the long ram intakes would no longer fit under the hood of those cars. the carbs would have ended up above the front tires. besides the sonoramics were tuned for torque at 2800 rpm not exactly what youd want for high rpm horsepower in a drag race car. the crossrams were tuned for max power at 5600rpm true but only on the full sized cars like the chrysler. the term sonoramic only refers to the over-the-valve-covers long ram the short rams used on the intermediate body s/s cars didnt use that name they were referred to as max wedge. john .