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From : jmc

Q: christian is supposed to behave lol if an individual claims to adhere to a religion christianity and the basis of that religion is set forth in a publication the bible and an individual violates the premise therein he is by definition not adhering to his own beliefs. and yetyou miss the other parts of what being christian consist of...by choice apparently. enlighten me. apparently the other parts consist of proclaiming ones christianity on forums. if you dont like the bible and the fact it tells you that you are going to hell then why do you pick parts of it out just because it suits your purpose how liberal of you john . . .wrong but liberal. picking those parts of the bible that suit you is so christian. the l word again. how christian of you. as the bible says you can tell me all you want how terrible a christian you percieve me to be but until you become a christian you have no authority to teach anyone from the bible. teaching isnt my goal pointing out hypocrisy is and one need not join the mob to do that. .

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From : mike simmons

jerry wrote budd cochran wrote i can not find any evidence of a scientist secular or creationist that has ever found a positive mutation. if avian influenza ever mutates from chickens to humans you will....... only if they can prove conclsively that the virus significantly changed into another viable form...iow a new strain with large changes not normal to the genome and not merely an adaption to environment. the key word for both of us is the biggest two letter word in the english language if. thats where creationists and evolutionists really differ evolutionists grasp at every little adaption in hopes of discovering conclusive proof of evolution the missing link while creationists only want what darwin claimed a major change in the genetic code . . ..a dog whelping a pup that has primate like attributes an opposable thumb for example to prove evolution until then creation is more logical. i was at yahoo.com a while ago and saw in the oddities a story about a rainbow trout caught in nebraska with two mouths one functional and one not funtional. its a classic example of negative mutation because the lower mouth just sits there. budd .

From : budd cochran

george wallace was a hard individual to get along with. his career really didnt need racism and a kkk image to maintain leadership for so long and then some from his wife lurleen. as a supporter of kennedy policy though we had some faith in wallaces down the road after the racism thing past but his leadership was that of a dictator. he had a deep sentiment against what is known as a nigger nigra foresay to him theres a certain difference that is distinctive and they were the ones martin luther king drawn attention from esp. during and the first stages of his governorship.he did employ black people but not those typos and he was seriously bent on anything spoken behind his back that implied he was a racist in fact he would have personally thrown you out of a campaign headquarters himself had he heard you speaking of a racist issue according to his son whom has become the public service commissioner in alabama and whom i wen to school with. but since the public service commission stopped funding of certain handicap programs to place them under review till new legislation could be enacted and up until they supported giving bellsouth the power to add taxes where other companies could choose not to add them we became arch enemies. i long lost the styrafoam hat from the campaign the one with the bite from it anyway life prospered and now all the problem is terrorism which i do not see it as beyond bravery rather below stupidity. black nigger nigras so he would have spoke of did not have that as a concept nor have the right to life campaigners ever chose to donate themselves as a suicide bomber. tracking of kkk began long ago and still continues today if terrorists could be looked upon as a racist as such the kkk is there wouldnt need be any such patriot act as those suspicious persons would not just be tracked but easedropped on as in wire taps without having to have court injunctions as the founded operation against the kkk movement is still existing today and has tracked the movement to aruba russia italy germany etc all over the world and convicted in mississippi alabama florida texas etc so need i say more. just where were they when the 911 incident tore through the hearts of all americans where were they when finding bin laden was critical where are they today on the terrorism issue everyone in jr.high and high schools did not care one way or the other of a hidden meaning behind the wordings of the song sweet home alabama as it was a favorite. i had already graduated in 1971 never experienced a bus boycott downtown montgomery or elsewhere like once i went to a walkin movie in birmingham and that was still a issue signs and posters still existed about whites only and that kept up its momentum in mississippi for a long while thereafter. where are they today watching tyra walking around with herfinger in her belly buttonits only logical. i say logical because europeans wanted to boast the fashion industry and dove head first into african cultures knowing that would affect american/africans and they have a jump on the market in africa which transpired quickly. thats why they got more support for the euro dollar banking is in european countries not africa. you might find bin ladins kinfolk marching towards them banks to secure their diamond mines without fearing them as backers of suicide bombers and the al quaeda he was not the only person to set ouit to attend german schools many came from africa funded by ladens kinfolks diamond movement. canadian assets are major in africa esp.in diamond investment because of british patent issues otherwise being owned by the african government.canadians free up much of their assets for africa and cuban commercialism and will be a major offshore oil backer for cuba soon when cuba and venezuela manage to iron out their deals if cuba gets the upper hand that is. southern pop-rock is one of my favorite listening genres. i liked jimmy hendrix and lots of soul and the blues but thats still a favorite even so hip-hop rnb and rap have grown in the south as favorites. music is not my cupof tea nor dancing but the lynyrd skynyrd song sweet home alabama is stilla major favorite group too. salsa you need lots of room and is considered as a outdoor genre rather than a dancehall as some on stage artists aremaking it as its a hot genre intended for the outdoors. lynyrd skynyrd music is a traveling music for on the road. joe xchernayax@gmail.com did this some of them may have voted for wallace in one or more of his runs for president. he ran as a democrat in 1964 1972 and 1976 but didnt get the nomination and as an american independent party candidate in 1968. he carried alabama among a handful of southern states. i dont even consider his runs for president. he never made it - may have! you were the one who introduced the question of whether the band ever voted for wallace. i merely pointed out that it was poss

From : mike simmons

a 4x4 is an option. since you pay in fuel mileage if you dont need it dont get it. i wonder if most of the newly built pick-up trucks domestic or imported are made in four wheel drive i recall in the old days that during the winter pick-up trucks usually have problem with tractions and they have to buy bags of sand to make sure that the rear wheels are not spinning. what about the new trucks and pick-ups are they now front wheel drive all wheel drive or 4 wheel drive i hardly hear someone complaining that they have to load their pick up truck with bags of sand any longer. is this still the practice during winter months .

From : jmc

only does it in second gear never third-or first if any chance of other gears doing same thing-check the front slider coupling im assuming you have an old process front diff- dana 44 actuator for vacuum loss hoses-etc hydroplaning- check that all tires are nearly same rolling radius remove one -make a mark on the ground-roll exactly one revolution-make another mark-check all others if you have very much difference even though tires say they are same size your truck will try to squiggle and catch up whenever it gets the chance... side to side -sometimes front to rear .

From : tom lawrence

yeah... what budd said. 2wd or 4wd would be helpful too... .

From : beekeep

on mon 19 dec 2005 131703 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote seeing as it is the holiday season and all that is being accomplished here is the usual never ending bull shit threads i am going to try to lighten things up with my own bull shit thread. given the animosity that has become evident with a number of those who post here i purpose a day of relaxation and rest with.......yup the friggin machine. i figure that with the machine operated at its higher speeds it will jerk off a few of ya faster than youve been jerking off each other. the end result should be that ya are too spent and weakened to continue in the bull shit threads your involved in. thus the threads will end and the participates will find themselves relaxed and able to spend time with family and friends perhaps doing christmas shopping or whatever. now to accomplish this the friggin machine must be located. at last report it was being transported to the northwest by mac. he was supposed to give it to red. but alas there were reports of a long floppy eared creature in a dodge 4x4 with a plow and a load of carrots in the back headed that way. since that time nobody has seen it or admitted that they have it. although red has been kinda quiet of late. anybody have any ideas or thought as to who has or where the machine ended up please feel free to jump right into this bull shit thread with any info or thoughts you may have. you know that there are a few here that desperately need a few session with the machine so they regain some perspective as to what this ng is about. any help or info you provide will be greatly appreciated. remember this is another bull shit thread so any info you choose to provide need not be truthful or accurate. gbmfg roy wouldnt tranquilizer darts be easier nah that wouldnt work either. next they will be argueing about the crusadesg roy mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : tom lawrence

tbone wrote that is not what i said miles and you know it regardless of your spin. the point is miles that if someone makes the claim to be a christian like someone we know then they should hold up to it. unlike you tom im not afraid of my name being said in public forum. its budd cochran in case you forgot. which brings up a question for both you and john . . why is it you tom get all ticked off if you get dressed down in public forum for a screw-up and yet you and john both want to dress me down for my beliefs in public forum is it a need for either of you do demonstrate you have gonads in public do you get some thrill from it do either of you understand the poor manners hey tom its also called class and lack of respect for another human being it shows i dont here you making that claim and you dont see me doing it either. by their fruits ye shall know them. you have not shown yourself to be a good fruit. every tree that beareth not good fruit will be cut down and thrown in the fire. either way it is not important and this thread has turned into the same crap that so many others have and it is to close to christmas to be bothered with childish crap like this so merry christmas to you and yours miles im done with this one. now that you and john turned it into crap you mean. take responsibility for your actions . . your rotten fruit as it were tom. budd .

From : beekeep

ooops that was the number of days active that tom l is #1 on. it looks like im the king lol! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i didnt even make the top forty posters . . . .but look where t-bone is . . . . budd jmc wrote someone in another group posted that groups results from this site thought id see what i got for this ng http//tinyurl.com/75rac i thought it was bad i was in the top 40 for the other ng. i cant believe im in the top 15 on this ng. didnt think i posted much here... anyway happy holidays to everybody! jmc .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote jerry can a poet be inspired by a springtime meadow or graffitti a writer be inspired by a bird flying by or a train wreck can an artist be inspired by the face of a child or a pile of trash if you answered yes to any of theses then why is it so hard to understand that approximately 40 writers over a period of 4000 years could be inspired by their god merry christmas to you and yours jerry budd just wanted to hear who you thought the author of the bible was. especially since the books were written after jesus died how could they describe jesus otherwise all the books in the bible were compiled less than 1500 years ago all on hearsay and all edited by scholars of the church. if that wasnt enough the bible we have today is less than 600 years old with phrases lost and changed during translation. in other words..... the bible is the word of man about god compiled by man written by man and changed by man. but at least now i understand that since i do understand the writings in mein kampf i must believe in hitler. merry christmas budd.......... .

From : budd cochran

orginally posted to alt.autos.dodge but i dont think that all feeds include that group intermittenly all electrical accessories cut out simultaneously blowers radio wipers windows. usually just for a moment but sometimes longer. though the blower motors shut off the power light for the climate control remains illuminated. instrument cluster and other instrumentation temperature/compass are unaffected. what would be the likely cause of this van has about 68k miles and the original battery if that could be the problem though it does start just fine. allan .

From : mike simmons

jerry can a poet be inspired by a springtime meadow or graffitti a writer be inspired by a bird flying by or a train wreck can an artist be inspired by the face of a child or a pile of trash if you answered yes to any of theses then why is it so hard to understand that approximately 40 writers over a period of 4000 years could be inspired by their god merry christmas to you and yours jerry budd jerry wrote budd cochran wrote no you do not have to believe it to read it but you have to believe in its author to understand it. its author this i gotta hear..... who is the author .

From : beekeep

more info please. make model year mileage budd richard synder wrote i have a whining noise i think it is coming from the trans . if the truck is running and in park or n you hear nothing if you are moving you here a whining sound up intel you hit about 45mph then you do not hear it anymore. looking for help. splicercom@verizon.net .

From : beekeep

i have a whining noise i think it is coming from the trans . if the truck is running and in park or n you hear nothing if you are moving you here a whining sound up intel you hit about 45mph then you do not hear it anymore. looking for help. splicercom@verizon.net .

From : tbone

yea im #2 and look who is at #1. shows how closely you look at statistics......check the column with total number of posts not number of days posting. sure toml is posting more days of the year but you are flat out kicking everyones ass in sheer number of posts. but thats no surprise. well maybe not to anyone but you. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author yea im #2 and look who is at #1. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i didnt even make the top forty posters . . . .but look where t-bone is . . . . budd jmc wrote someone in another group posted that groups results from this site thought id see what i got for this ng http//tinyurl.com/75rac i thought it was bad i was in the top 40 for the other ng. i cant believe im in the top 15 on this ng. didnt think i posted much here... anyway happy holidays to everybody! jmc .

From : matthew warren

on mon 19 dec 2005 131703 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote seeing as it is the holiday season and all that is being accomplished here is the usual never ending bull shit threads i am going to try to lighten things up with my own bull shit thread. given the animosity that has become evident with a number of those who post here i purpose a day of relaxation and rest with.......yup the friggin machine. i figure that with the machine operated at its higher speeds it will jerk off a few of ya faster than youve been jerking off each other. the end result should be that ya are too spent and weakened to continue in the bull shit threads your involved in. thus the threads will end and the participates will find themselves relaxed and able to spend time with family and friends perhaps doing christmas shopping or whatever. now to accomplish this the friggin machine must be located. at last report it was being transported to the northwest by mac. he was supposed to give it to red. but alas there were reports of a long floppy eared creature in a dodge 4x4 with a plow and a load of carrots in the back headed that way. since that time nobody has seen it or admitted that they have it. although red has been kinda quiet of late. anybody have any ideas or thought as to who has or where the machine ended up please feel free to jump right into this bull shit thread with any info or thoughts you may have. you know that there are a few here that desperately need a few session with the machine so they regain some perspective as to what this ng is about. any help or info you provide will be greatly appreciated. remember this is another bull shit thread so any info you choose to provide need not be truthful or accurate. gbmfg roy hey you dont suppose someone got ahold of it and realizing its true value sold it on e-bay lets look for someone that has come into a lot of money recently. yeah. maybe someone who bought a new truck recently. maybe they even made so much money they were able to get the heated seats with it. gasp! m you gasping cause you was found out or cause you left the machine on high for too long denny .

From : max dodge

sorry max but you said that it will not monitor most fuel problems and it in fact will. and in fact it wont. here is a short list of what the pcm has no clue about fuel filter fuel pump fuel lines lean run condition fuel injector spray pattern clogged fuel injectors failing fuel injectors it knows if it fired the injector but it doesnt know if that event went well misfire codes fuel pressure fuel leaks these are really just repeates from above grade of fuel is not a delivery problem if water is in the fuel the diesels know this but not the gassers afaik or if the fuel is even capable of igniting as in varnished or aged. again non of this is a delivery problem absolute fuel pressure is the only thing that it will not monitor but just about every other fuel delivery problem will cause symptoms that it can hence the code he is getting. um yeah except the problem you mentioned first was a failed fuel pump which is not monitored. it depends on what failed. a complete failure will not be detected but a partial failure very low pressure would show up as lean run and misfire codes. this is directly related to fuel pressure which is not monitored. further if it was enough to get the truck going but not enough to properly spray from the injector there would be an atomization problem which is not monitored. did you forget about misfire codes. it would also probably result in rich run codes that would be false but would indicate a fuel delivery problem. you are of course correct that he should get the codes before proceeding but to say that most fuel problems are not monitored is wrong. its absolutely correct. the only thing the pcm knows about the fuel is injector timing and a/f mixture via sensors. and fuel delivery problems severe enough to cause running difficulties are doing it why max because it will cause the very mixture problems you just said so i guess that they are monitored indirectly after all. now if you had said directly monitored you would have been much more accurate but since you like to jump on me for crap like this what comes around goes around. nah i just jump on you for crap where you are wrong. if that were only true but we both know better than that. have a merry christmas max. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote christianity is what it is miles. while there may be some variation in the formalities and customs the way others should be treated pretty much remains the same how ones lives their lives what they see as humerous etc is all based on that persons beliefs and noone elses. the way you paint it christians have little individuality which is just absurd and shows that you havent a clue! .

From : tbone

actually the bikes have been on the back burner for awhile. i put a bee box making machine online last december and it has under gone quite a few mods over the past year. i think that i am just about done working out all the problems. pictures of the machine can be seen here http//www.radix.net/honeybs/bbm1.jpg http//www.radix.net/honeybs/bbm2.jpg http//www.radix.net/honeybs/bbm3.jpg its been a real fun project. never really worked with pnematics before so it was quite a challenge. i couldnt use 120 vac as it is run by the amish. it has a battery pack built into the cabinate 24vdc 2 lawn mower batteries just for the controls. now im thinking about building a bandmill. beekeep on 19 dec 2005 161823 -0800 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote back in the days of the old c.b. radios we had a term for that . . .but ill just call it ratchet jawing. vbg same to you and yours greg. built any new bikes lately send me some pics and i try and get some of the cushman back at ya. google doesnt allow posting pics budd aka. da canon city boogieman beekeep wrote hard to believe i made the top ten! merry christmas budd. beekeep on 19 dec 2005 112035 -0800 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote i didnt even make the top forty posters . . . .but look where t-bone is . . . . budd jmc wrote someone in another group posted that groups results from this site thought id see what i got for this ng http//tinyurl.com/75rac i thought it was bad i was in the top 40 for the other ng. i cant believe im in the top 15 on this ng. didnt think i posted much here... anyway happy holidays to everybody! jmc .

From : budd cochran

lets see that would require 34% more knowledge and accuracy minimum but hes too busy telling me how to be a christian right now. budd max dodge wrote i didnt even make the top forty posters . . . .but look where t-bone is . . . . hell if ya ask him he doesnt post anywhere near as much as you or i or anyone he happens to be trying to be somehow better than. he has about 33% more posts than toml wanna bet he didnt give out even 33% of the info toml did -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i didnt even make the top forty posters . . . .but look where t-bone is . . . . budd jmc wrote someone in another group posted that groups results from this site thought id see what i got for this ng http//tinyurl.com/75rac i thought it was bad i was in the top 40 for the other ng. i cant believe im in the top 15 on this ng. didnt think i posted much here... anyway happy holidays to everybody! jmc .

From : budd cochran

john kunkel wrote john kunkel wrote show any violation of context in the biblical passages i posted. you keep using the word teaching; pointing out hypocrisy isnt teaching from the scriptures. try a new line. if you had simply called me a hypocrite that would have been pointing percieved hypocrisy. when you went to the bible and decided to assume an authority you did not have you made it teaching. obviously the word teach has a different meaning for you. to teach is to educate since you are already a self-proffessed expert on the bible my quotes dont amount to teaching. i have never claimed expertise on the scriptures. i dont even have that many memorized. but i know where to find experts and you are not one of them. if i quoted the first sentence of moby dick and you had already read it would that be teaching no that would be quoting with no intent to increase ones knowledge. call me ishmael. quoting from a universally recognized work of fiction s quoting. quoting from the religious book of a group that know it is not fiction is teaching especially when seek correct someone . . .. but you still dont have the authority to do so. suppose i see an avowed christian banging his next door neighbors wife in full view of dozens of people in a public park. is it teaching to point out that he is in violation of the sixth and ninth commandment is pointing out the obvious violation passing judgement passing judgement would be condemning the behavior not pointing it out. first thing right off the bat a true believing christian unless decieved by satan we are still human would not commit breaches of those commandments. so only non-christians commit adultery in truth the majority of those who do it would undoubtedly describe themselves as christians but would rationalize their behavior in some way. read it again since you bragged about that developed skill then tell me where i said all christians. there are many that draw nigh with the mouth but their hearts are far from me the words of jesus as recorded by matthew the tax collector not all that claim to be christians are hence i said true christians. enough of this circular rhetoric lets cut to le chase. kindly answer the following questions for me and the others on the forum why who are you that i should jump when you holler frog 1do you believe your statement in the original post.... i dont think she could be worth more than a couple pigs and a rat but only if they offer change back... is a denigrating statement yes/no. have you stopped beating your wife if you dont believe the statement is denigrating to ms. clinton explain why not. if you acknowledge the statement is demeaning explain why such behavior is acceptable for an avowed christian. have you stopped beating your dog 2why do you believe this sentence from psalm 15 doesnt apply to your statement about ms. clinton have you the authority of god to question me no. he whose walk is blameless and who does what is righteous who speaks the truth from his heart and has no slander on his tongue who does his neighbor no wrong. and youre not doing me wrong hypocrite do you believe your statement wasnt slanderous and that that slander didnt do your neighbor wrong yes/no. is it your avowed purpose in life to degrade christians if you believe the statemant doesnt fall under the definition of slander explain why. if you acknowledge that the statement is slanderous explain why psalm 15 doesnt accurately describe the slanderous action as unrighteous. dont give me the old the bible must be taken as a whole bullshit you have quoted individual verses quite often in this thread. and dont try the old an atheist has no authority to quote the bible bullshit either try a straight answer without the usual subterfuge. do you think you are worthy of any consideration at all when your sole intent has been to attack and destroy a single indvidual in this group simply because his avowed beliefs dont fit into some little niche that you think all who go by the name christian should be stuffed into and then left to die bigoted hypocrite john your hatred for me and my beliefs is evident to all now. i forgive you. happy holidays budd .

From : max dodge

on mon 19 dec 2005 131703 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote seeing as it is the holiday season and all that is being accomplished here is the usual never ending bull shit threads i am going to try to lighten things up with my own bull shit thread. given the animosity that has become evident with a number of those who post here i purpose a day of relaxation and rest with.......yup the friggin machine. i figure that with the machine operated at its higher speeds it will jerk off a few of ya faster than youve been jerking off each other. the end result should be that ya are too spent and weakened to continue in the bull shit threads your involved in. thus the threads will end and the participates will find themselves relaxed and able to spend time with family and friends perhaps doing christmas shopping or whatever. now to accomplish this the friggin machine must be located. at last report it was being transported to the northwest by mac. he was supposed to give it to red. but alas there were reports of a long floppy eared creature in a dodge 4x4 with a plow and a load of carrots in the back headed that way. since that time nobody has seen it or admitted that they have it. although red has been kinda quiet of late. anybody have any ideas or thought as to who has or where the machine ended up please feel free to jump right into this bull shit thread with any info or thoughts you may have. you know that there are a few here that desperately need a few session with the machine so they regain some perspective as to what this ng is about. any help or info you provide will be greatly appreciated. remember this is another bull shit thread so any info you choose to provide need not be truthful or accurate. gbmfg roy hey you dont suppose someone got ahold of it and realizing its true value sold it on e-bay lets look for someone that has come into a lot of money recently. yeah. maybe someone who bought a new truck recently. maybe they even made so much money they were able to get the heated seats with it. gasp! m .

From : budd cochran

update....... well i found out why the oil seal was leaking. after pulling the axle out for the second time i decided to really take my time and look for the bigger issue. before pulling the axle out i removed the cad cover and observed the axles as i rotated the hub. to my surprise i noticed the axle was not turning symmetrically were the intermediate axle met the stub axle. for my discussion the intermediate axle runs from the cad to the diff the stub axle is from the cad to the u-joint and the outer axle is from the u-joint to the hub. after pulling the axle out i noticed the bushing from the end of the stub axle was gone and the hole worn badly. upon reassembling with a new axle a noticed everything was fine until i tightened the three hub bolts. the hub pressed the axles together so tight they would not turn freely as the cad. i removed the hub and reinstalled it several time to find no improvement. i now know where the old bushing went. seeing as the hub was only a few months old i took it back to autozone and got my money back. i then bought a high quality unit from another more reputable parts store. the hub fit properly with about 1/16inch end clearance between the axles. the noise is still there but im guessing the ground remains of the bushing has done a number on the bearings in the differential. the moral of the story its not worth the $30 savings by purchasing sub standard parts from autozone. i already have $150 into axles and seals and i still have to fix the differential. p.s. when i took the hub back to autozone they said. oh there is a hold on that one. ill give you a refund gee i wonder why!!!! .