What's the next step after installing a timing belt?

From : bobleviathan

Q: leviathan wrote im trying replace a timing belt with instructions based off a haynes service manual. the haynes manual has misinformation lack of information etc. i have a few questions. after you install the timing belts with all marks correctly aligned do you need to remove the distibutor and reinstall it exactly what do you need to do where does the rotor need to point exactly do you not need to remove the distributor whats the next step the haynes manual simply says to set the timing as the last step. however when you turn to the chapter about setting the timing it explains only for a situation in which you are not changing the timing belt. need help. thanks. as long as you havent removed the distributor to begin with theres no need to do so now. if you havent changed distributor settings then it will be aligned with the camshaft exactly as it was before you started. notice i said camshaft not crankshaft. if your timing chain was really stretched out then the cam should now be properly aligned with the reciprocating assembly. if your timing was set correctly before now its off a few degrees. so whats the point if you now check your timing and its right where it was before you started then the timing chain was not stretched. if you swapped it out to correct a problem you may need to keep looking. -- ..bob 97 h-d fxdwg - turbocharged!! 01 dakota quad sport 5.9/auto/4x4 83 gmc jimmy beater 66 427sc cobra replica - project 66 mustang coupe - daily driver -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .

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From : leviathan

this is what ive been lead to understand so far 1- when every mark on every timing belt sprocket is aligned to the corresponding timing marks on the engine the #1 piston is at top dead center. 2- when every mark on every timing belt sprocket is aligned the rotor should point to the cable on the distributor cap which goes to the #1 piston. is this correct .

From : leviathan

the timing belt broke. a new belt was installed & the marks are aligned but when you start the car the engine works horribly and doesnt go beyond 3000 rpms. its a non-interference engine so the valves isnt the problem. this obviously isnt a simple matter of just aligning the timing marks and starting the car. the timing is off. the timing belt was replaced because it broke. it wasnt simply replaced from an old one to a new one. in this case scenario whats the next step how do you time this cars engine properly. its a distributor ignition system. .

From : leviathan

from knjwood@charte.net ken is the distributor driven by the camshaft or auxiliary shaft the camshaft. .

From : bob

leviathan wrote the timing belt broke. a new belt was installed & the marks are aligned but when you start the car the engine works horribly and doesnt go beyond 3000 rpms. its a non-interference engine so the valves isnt the problem. this obviously isnt a simple matter of just aligning the timing marks and starting the car. the timing is off. the timing belt was replaced because it broke. it wasnt simply replaced from an old one to a new one. in this case scenario whats the next step how do you time this cars engine properly. its a distributor ignition system. what are you working on if you havnt touched the distributer then dont touch it now - thats not the problem. -- ..bob 97 h-d fxdwg - turbocharged!! 01 dakota quad sport 5.9/auto/4x4 83 gmc jimmy beater 66 427sc cobra replica - project 66 mustang coupe - daily driver -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .

From : ken

is the distributor driven by the camshaft or auxiliary shaft ken w im trying replace a timing belt with instructions based off a haynes service manual. the haynes manual has misinformation lack of information etc. i have a few questions. after you install the timing belts with all marks correctly aligned do you need to remove the distibutor and reinstall it exactly what do you need to do where does the rotor need to point exactly do you not need to remove the distributor whats the next step the haynes manual simply says to set the timing as the last step. however when you turn to the chapter about setting the timing it explains only for a situation in which you are not changing the timing belt. need help. thanks. .

From : cbhvac

without more information there is no way to tell you what is wrong.. for instance not knowing what engine and year you have might lead some to think..hummmm...sounds like the counterbalance shaft is out of time.. the timing belt broke. a new belt was installed & the marks are aligned but when you start the car the engine works horribly and doesnt go beyond 3000 rpms. its a non-interference engine so the valves isnt the problem. this obviously isnt a simple matter of just aligning the timing marks and starting the car. the timing is off. the timing belt was replaced because it broke. it wasnt simply replaced from an old one to a new one. in this case scenario whats the next step how do you time this cars engine properly. its a distributor ignition system. .

From : roy

from knjwood@charte.net ken is the distributor driven by the camshaft or auxiliary shaft the camshaft. it would seem that you have to move the distributor. by move i mean take it out and align it with i would assume #1 cyl but nobody seems to know wtf engine you are playing with. you might want to be a bit careful your oil pump might me involved as well. your manual should take you through the procedure. failing that find a friend to help you that knows what they are doing to assist you or go to the library and make a copy of a manual that will give you a step by step instructions. roy .

From : tbone

he did post it a while back. i dont remember the displacement but he is working on a 86 mitsubishi cordia with a silent shaft 4 cylinder. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving from knjwood@charte.net ken is the distributor driven by the camshaft or auxiliary shaft the camshaft. it would seem that you have to move the distributor. by move i mean take it out and align it with i would assume #1 cyl but nobody seems to know wtf engine you are playing with. you might want to be a bit careful your oil pump might me involved as well. your manual should take you through the procedure. failing that find a friend to help you that knows what they are doing to assist you or go to the library and make a copy of a manual that will give you a step by step instructions. roy .

From : mike simmonscbhvac

sam there is a cowl intake filter available for the ram. i dont know how effective it would be against pollen but you can find more info at www.genosgarage.com hope this helps! chryco service manager member sae thanks for your effort. i did some poking around myself and came up with the same results. i was hoping that i was just not looking in the right place. hi - did a little research on your problem at the following web sites www.fram.com www.dodge-auto-parts-dealer.com/parts.htm. both sites are not showing any compartment filters for your vehicle - it may just be an accumulation of pollen circulating through the heating/ac system. hope this helps you. .

From : redneck tookover hellleviathan

another vehicle either you are having a population explosion up there or that other vehicle is a john deere!!!!!! g . id be parked behind a vehicle along a street. go to pull out and drive away would have trouble turning the wheel. ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : leviathan

is it possible that the rotor does not point to the #1 spark plug cable on the distributor cap after aligning the timing mark on the cam sprocket to the mark on the cylinder head if so why does this happen is this something that rarely happens or is this a common occurance when a belt breaks .

From : leviathan

i just checked the car and the rotor does point to the #1 cylinders spark plug cable with that cylinder at top dead center. so the distributor rotors positon isnt the problem. .

From : tbone

looking at the dodge.com site i do not see an option for a 3500 ram with the single rear wheel as offered on the 2003 models. has dodge dropped this option for 2004 how would you keep it balanced i was unaware of any three wheel version - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : Annonymous

if the engine runs at all the timing is within two teeth of correct. most likely you are one tooth off on one or more of the cogs. i have seen two engines where the timing mark was marked one tooth off from the factory. due to this i now always look before removing the old belt. i do not know what engine you have but on my engine you have to get an inspection mirror to make sure the cam shaft is aligned with the mark on the head. if you just look at it from an angle you will be one tooth off due to parallax. you also need a straight edge to align the distributor cog mark with the crankshaft. the haynes manuals leave a lot to be desired but they are low cost so you get what you pay for. on thu 6 nov 2003 170807 -0500 est leviathanguest@webtv.net leviathan wrote the timing belt broke. a new belt was installed & the marks are aligned but when you start the car the engine works horribly and doesnt go beyond 3000 rpms. its a non-interference engine so the valves isnt the problem. this obviously isnt a simple matter of just aligning the timing marks and starting the car. the timing is off. the timing belt was replaced because it broke. it wasnt simply replaced from an old one to a new one. in this case scenario whats the next step how do you time this cars engine properly. its a distributor ignition system. .