WTF!! Doesn't DC think???

From : roy

Q: getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. but if the hole is a shade larger than a brad or is a tear it isnt going to work. so i can either depend on aaa and pray that they have the ability to fix the tire if it is repairable. if the tire is junk i have to find a place that has one in stock. anyway after a puncture it looses its speed rating so it should be replaced. or spend about $800.00+ for a tire wheel and small budda jack and toss in a torque wrench breaker bar and socket. this will eat up about 80% of the trunk. with the stuff that the wife has me taking utilizing all of the space in the trunk im surprised i can get in the car. this isnt good. done venting! .

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From : azwiley1

they didnt make too many of them so the chance of finding a wheel in a bone yard is very very slim. the size of the caliper is very limiting. im sure some punk kids crashed dads car by now. lol .

From : denny

getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! it took you this long to notice i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. but if the hole is a shade larger than a brad or is a tear it isnt going to work. so i can either depend on aaa and pray that they have the ability to fix the tire if it is repairable. if the tire is junk i have to find a place that has one in stock. anyway after a puncture it looses its speed rating so it should be replaced. or spend about $800.00+ for a tire wheel and small budda jack and toss in a torque wrench breaker bar and socket. this will eat up about 80% of the trunk. with the stuff that the wife has me taking utilizing all of the space in the trunk im surprised i can get in the car. im surprized you can fit in the car anyway..... bfg anyways back to the tire. not much else that you can do that you havent already said. ive only had one flat tire in my life so i guess id take my chances. maybe you can find one of those little donut spares that wont take up so much space. denny this isnt good. done venting! .

From : chris thompson

on sun 11 mar 2007 092634 -0500 roy wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. but if the hole is a shade larger than a brad or is a tear it isnt going to work. so i can either depend on aaa and pray that they have the ability to fix the tire if it is repairable. if the tire is junk i have to find a place that has one in stock. anyway after a puncture it looses its speed rating so it should be replaced. or spend about $800.00+ for a tire wheel and small budda jack and toss in a torque wrench breaker bar and socket. this will eat up about 80% of the trunk. with the stuff that the wife has me taking utilizing all of the space in the trunk im surprised i can get in the car. this isnt good. done venting! now roy! you know tires dont go flat anymore!!!! *grin* i hate to hear that. maybe next time i buy a truck i need to check and make sure it comes with a spare. -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .

From : bob

roy wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! corvette -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : beekeep

on sun 11 mar 2007 110015 -0400 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! it took you this long to notice i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. but if the hole is a shade larger than a brad or is a tear it isnt going to work. so i can either depend on aaa and pray that they have the ability to fix the tire if it is repairable. if the tire is junk i have to find a place that has one in stock. anyway after a puncture it looses its speed rating so it should be replaced. or spend about $800.00+ for a tire wheel and small budda jack and toss in a torque wrench breaker bar and socket. this will eat up about 80% of the trunk. with the stuff that the wife has me taking utilizing all of the space in the trunk im surprised i can get in the car. im surprized you can fit in the car anyway..... bfg anyways back to the tire. not much else that you can do that you havent already said. ive only had one flat tire in my life so i guess id take my chances. maybe you can find one of those little donut spares that wont take up so much space. denny yep i see a visit to the juck yard. should be able to get all he needs for $100.00. and they wonder why they are going under beekeep .

From : roy

roy wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! corvette no my z06 had the same deal though. this time its a charger srt8. i could probably find a wheel if it was a corvette. they dont make a lot of srts -- .bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : roy

on sun 11 mar 2007 110015 -0400 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! it took you this long to notice i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. but if the hole is a shade larger than a brad or is a tear it isnt going to work. so i can either depend on aaa and pray that they have the ability to fix the tire if it is repairable. if the tire is junk i have to find a place that has one in stock. anyway after a puncture it looses its speed rating so it should be replaced. or spend about $800.00+ for a tire wheel and small budda jack and toss in a torque wrench breaker bar and socket. this will eat up about 80% of the trunk. with the stuff that the wife

From : roy

me taking utilizing all of the space in the trunk im surprised i can get in the car. im surprized you can fit in the car anyway..... bfg anyways back to the tire. not much else that you can do that you havent already said. ive only had one flat tire in my life so i guess id take my chances. maybe you can find one of those little donut spares that wont take up so much space. denny yep i see a visit to the juck yard. should be able to get all he needs for $100.00. you find me the junk yard that has all i need for under $500. it isnt going to happen. and they wonder why they are going under beekeep .

From : azwiley1

already got it replaced $250 on my truck which has about 90k miles but whats haunting me is should you replace things like that just because they make a squealing/screeching/.... noise at the time i just listened to the mechanic who said i should replace it because bad things can happen if it dies... and he said it couldnt be fixed because its a sealed part. the noise wasnt so loud as to really annoy me but it was fairly noisy. but who knows if a noise like that is really a predictor of failure...is it like a 3- fold risk of breaking down within a year or what it seemed to definitely be the fan clutch making the noise since when he twirled it around with his hand with the engine off it made the noise . now that its fixed the truck has a new feature that ive read about...other people seem to have this problem.....the first mile of driving at under 30 mph has that roaring sound....and the truck never did this before....but from what ive read thats not really a mechanical problem just a feature of some of the cooling fans. p.s. i also replaced the serp. belt after only about 12-13000 miles but 3 years because it looked a little bit glazed and some people said it looked almost already to replace. . .

From : azwiley1

on sun 11 mar 2007 110015 -0400 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! it took you this long to notice i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. but if the hole is a shade larger than a brad or is a tear it isnt going to work. so i can either depend on aaa and pray that they have the ability to fix the tire if it is repairable. if the tire is junk i have to find a place that has one in stock. anyway after a puncture it looses its speed rating so it should be replaced. or spend about $800.00+ for a tire wheel and small budda jack and toss in a torque wrench breaker bar and socket. this will eat up about 80% of the trunk. with the stuff that the wife has me taking utilizing all of the space in the trunk im surprised i can get in the car. im surprized you can fit in the car anyway..... bfg anyways back to the tire. not much else that you can do that you havent already said. ive only had one flat tire in my life so i guess id take my chances. maybe you can find one of those little donut spares that wont take up so much space. denny yep i see a visit to the juck yard. should be able to get all he needs for $100.00. you find me the junk yard that has all i need for under $500. it isnt going to happen. why isnt it going to happen have you tried www.car-parts.com yet to see what is available a jack you can get at wal-mart for under 50 bucks for a small hydralic cylinder still. i am sure you have a lug wrench or a four way already right and they wonder why they are going under beekeep .

From : roy

getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! it took you this long to notice nah to really get my head around what im doing. i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. but if the hole is a shade larger than a brad or is a tear it isnt going to work. so i can either depend on aaa and pray that they have the ability to fix the tire if it is repairable. if the tire is junk i have to find a place that has one in stock. anyway after a puncture it looses its speed rating so it should be replaced. or spend about $800.00+ for a tire wheel and small budda jack and toss in a torque wrench breaker bar and socket. this will eat up about 80% of the trunk. with the stuff that the wife has me taking utilizing all of the space in the trunk im surprised i can get in the car. im surprized you can fit in the car anyway..... bfg i knew that had to follow.vbg anyways back to the tire. not much else that you can do that you havent already said. ive only had one flat tire in my life so i guess id take my chances. maybe you can find one of those little donut spares that wont take up so much space. the problem is that they made it so it stops real well. nothing will clear the front calipers. going to bite the bullet and go to the dealer in the morning and see what kind of a price i can get gotta get the sensor too i suppose. in a way it makes since cause where will i find a new wheel and tire in a hurry if i need to. ill be stuck in east hucklebuck for a week while the corner gas station orders it at top dollar. why the dealer i would go to discount tires or something of the likes first man there are many different aftermarket wheels that will fit man. roy denny this isnt good. done venting! .

From : bob

roy wrote roy wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! corvette no my z06 had the same deal though. this time its a charger srt8. i could probably find a wheel if it was a corvette. they dont make a lot of srts my cobra doesnt carry a spare either. i carry a tire plug kit and a small 12v compressor. same stuff i carry on my motorcycle. of course the only time i ever got a flat on the cobra it was a hole big enough to stick my thumb in. couldnt see plugging that to get home though. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : stormin mormon

well in this case it didnt do much for the tire. cause the inspiration was regarding oil level. but im sure someday ill get a revelation on tires. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. thaks for that inspirational tale. how does that fix a torn tire .

From : roy

well in this case it didnt do much for the tire. cause the inspiration was regarding oil level. but im sure someday ill get a revelation on tires. one can only hope.g christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. thaks for that inspirational tale. how does that fix a torn tire .

From : edward l dowdy

you know theres only two things that fall out of the sky. gbeg if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

in my assorted years of driving ive had to reinflate a couple tires. the last one i did the fellow who had the flat had just purchased a plugging kit for his garden tractor. the plug kit worked nicely and i had the compressor. the one before that was a spare wheel. a friend of mine had a flat in the church parking lot. he had a spare wheel and the jack and lug wrench. but the spare wasnt inflated. it was a ford expedition and im pleased that my little lighter socket power compressor did air up his spare. enough to get him going. i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. thaks for that inspirational tale. how does that fix a torn tire it doesnt thats what duct tape is for. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving where ya been figured you and miles had gotten a room together neither one of ya have posted much recently.. gbfg lol that was funny. i have just been busy lately i dont really have the time to keep playing with miles. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : beekeep

im just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round i really love to watch them roll no longer riding on the merry-go-round i just had to let it go. beekeep on wed 14 mar 2007 191054 -0400 stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote well in this case it didnt do much for the tire. cause the inspiration was regarding oil level. but im sure someday ill get a revelation on tires. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. thaks for that inspirational tale. how does that fix a torn tire .

From : roy

roy wrote roy wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! corvette no my z06 had the same deal though. this time its a charger srt8. i could probably find a wheel if it was a corvette. they dont make a lot of srts my cobra doesnt carry a spare either. i carry a tire plug kit and a small 12v compressor. same stuff i carry on my motorcycle. of course the only time i ever got a flat on the cobra it was a hole big enough to stick my thumb in. couldnt see plugging that to get home though. thats my point. a non repairable puncture 300 hundred miles from home is a pia but not too big a deal. make a call and have somebody bring the trailer or failing that hire a flat bed. but 1000 miles you are kinda at the mercy of whoever. im opting for the tire wheel set up. -- .bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : denny

the problem is that they made it so it stops real well. nothing will clear the front calipers. going to bite the bullet and go to the dealer in the morning and see what kind of a price i can get gotta get the sensor too i suppose. dont have to have the sensor. itll just have the low psi light on. im thinking that rim is about $800. let me know how close my guess is. in a way it makes since cause where will i find a new wheel and tire in a hurry if i need to. ill be stuck in east hucklebuck for a week while the corner gas station orders it at top dollar. could be worse. you could be stuck in elida......... i dont know if i make enough $$ in a month to feed ya for a week.. vbg denny roy denny this isnt good. done venting! .

From : denny

the problem is that they made it so it stops real well. nothing will clear the front calipers. going to bite the bullet and go to the dealer in the morning and see what kind of a price i can get gotta get the sensor too i suppose. dont have to have the sensor. itll just have the low psi light on. im thinking that rim is about $800. let me know how close my guess is. you were low on the list and high on the net. that still means youre not getting out of munching a cravecase of castles in a couple of months...... it will cost me $640 and another $210 for the tire. ill kinda get the money back on the tire as i will only have to replace 3 when the 4 currently on the car wear out. ok how much are four of the run flats just put four of them on now before you buy a rim. im sure a tire store will give you something for your four original tires.. denny they could have put run flats on these things and all this wouldnt be a issue. roy .

From : roy

the problem is that they made it so it stops real well. nothing will clear the front calipers. going to bite the bullet and go to the dealer in the morning and see what kind of a price i can get gotta get the sensor too i suppose. dont have to have the sensor. itll just have the low psi light on. im thinking that rim is about $800. let me know how close my guess is. you were low on the list and high on the net. that still means youre not getting out of munching a cravecase of castles in a couple of months...... arrrrghhhh!!! it will cost me $640 and another $210 for the tire. ill kinda get the money back on the tire as i will only have to replace 3 when the 4 currently on the car wear out. ok how much are four of the run flats just put four of them on now before you buy a rim. im sure a tire store will give you something for your four original tires.. i dont think they make run flats for a 20 rim. didnt see any at tire rack. roy denny they could have put run flats on these things and all this wouldnt be a issue. roy .

From : roy

the problem is that they made it so it stops real well. nothing will clear the front calipers. going to bite the bullet and go to the dealer in the morning and see what kind of a price i can get gotta get the sensor too i suppose. dont have to have the sensor. itll just have the low psi light on. im thinking that rim is about $800. let me know how close my guess is. okay does it leave a light for just that one or all of them i can get all of them individually. im hopeing that is the list price. the damn tire is over $200. of course when they wear and need to be replaced ill only need to buy three. in a way it makes since cause where will i find a new wheel and tire in a hurry if i need to. ill be stuck in east hucklebuck for a week while the corner gas station orders it at top dollar. could be worse. you could be stuck in elida......... i dont know if i make enough $$ in a month to feed ya for a week.. vbg told ya im on a diet. roy denny roy denny this isnt good. done venting! .

From : roy

roy wrote big friggin snip so thats why my car doesnt have a spare did it occur to you that it might have to do with the size or maybe the weight lets see if dc still exists as a recognizable entity in 5 years. gee i thought i asked you a couple of questions. then ill let you know..... dont bother. in five years ill have bought another car. .

From : beekeep

on mon 12 mar 2007 094317 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote roy wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! the problem is not just poor management -- its a political problem. its not just dc its a problem across us companies. /rant mode on you see...... it used to be that industrial engineers were concerned with a fair days pay for a fair days work eliminating inefficiency waste and the fat. problem is the us cant complete with cheap labor from the third world. our politicians are eliminating trade barriers which means that us corporations are facing low-cost competition from overseas. industrial engineers are now tasked with cutting costs.....as long as the end product is still saleable in the *short term*. big friggin snip so thats why my car doesnt have a spare did it occur to you that it might have to do with the size or maybe the weight because the engineers figured that the tire is only flat on the bottom. they figure you can drive on the rest of it. beekeep .

From : roy

the problem is that they made it so it stops real well. nothing will clear the front calipers. going to bite the bullet and go to the dealer in the morning and see what kind of a price i can get gotta get the sensor too i suppose. dont have to have the sensor. itll just have the low psi light on. im thinking that rim is about $800. let me know how close my guess is. you were low on the list and high on the net. it will cost me $640 and another $210 for the tire. ill kinda get the money back on the tire as i will only have to replace 3 when the 4 currently on the car wear out. they could have put run flats on these things and all this wouldnt be a issue. roy .

From : beekeep

told ya im on a diet. roy denny roy denny this isnt good. done venting! .

From : vlad

roy wrote big friggin snip so thats why my car doesnt have a spare did it occur to you that it might have to do with the size or maybe the weight lets see if dc still exists as a recognizable entity in 5 years. then ill let you know..... .

From : denny

the problem is that they made it so it stops real well. nothing will clear the front calipers. going to bite the bullet and go to the dealer in the morning and see what kind of a price i can get gotta get the sensor too i suppose. dont have to have the sensor. itll just have the low psi light on. im thinking that rim is about $800. let me know how close my guess is. okay does it leave a light for just that one or all of them i can get all of them individually. just the one. the other three transmitters will still be working. denny im hopeing that is the list price. the damn tire is over $200. of course when they wear and need to be replaced ill only need to buy three. in a way it makes since cause where will i find a new wheel and tire in a hurry if i need to. ill be stuck in east hucklebuck for a week while the corner gas station orders it at top dollar. could be worse. you could be stuck in elida......... i dont know if i make enough $$ in a month to feed ya for a week..

From : roy

on sun 11 mar 2007 092634 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. done venting! the compressor is for your inflate-a-date. and thats not tire goo its ky jelly! beekeep .

From : roy

on sun 11 mar 2007 092634 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. done venting! the compressor is for your inflate-a-date. and thats not tire goo its ky jelly! to give me somthing to do while i wait for aaa beekeep . 222 332001 ztednvraory63mjynz2dnuvzoupnz2d@comcast.com the problem is that they made it so it stops real well. nothing will clear the front calipers. going to bite the bullet and go to the dealer in the morning and see what kind of a price i can get gotta get the sensor too i suppose. dont have to have the sensor. itll just have the low psi light on. im thinking that rim is about $800. let me know how close my guess is. okay does it leave a light for just that one or all of them i can get all of them individually. just the one. the other three transmitters will still be working. thanks pal. roy denny im hopeing that is the list price. the damn tire is over $200. of course when they wear and need to be replaced ill only need to buy three. in a way it makes since cause where will i find a new wheel and tire in a hurry if i need to. ill be stuck in east hucklebuck for a week while the corner gas station orders it at top dollar. could be worse. you could be stuck in elida......... i dont know if i make enough $$ in a month to feed ya for a week.. vbg told ya im on a diet. roy denny roy denny this isnt good. done venting! .

From : vlad

roy wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! the problem is not just poor management -- its a political problem. its not just dc its a problem across us companies. /rant mode on you see...... it used to be that industrial engineers were concerned with a fair days pay for a fair days work eliminating inefficiency waste and the fat. problem is the us cant complete with cheap labor from the third world. our politicians are eliminating trade barriers which means that us corporations are facing low-cost competition from overseas. industrial engineers are now tasked with cutting costs.....as long as the end product is still saleable in the *short term*. problem is this warped version of industrial engineering has been going on for so long theres not much inefficiency waste or fat left.*** so to get something that looks good on paper these geniuses are cutting the muscle and bone. theres only so much muscle and bone you can cut before you look at outsourcing as the solution to lower costs. its the us corporate version of suicide. its slow motion suicide for the us way-of-life. who will these corporations sell their products to when the service and leisure industries are all we have left /rant mode off ***frequently the lowest cost product in a product line is so poorly constructed that it will only function for a limited time -- if at all. .

From : roy

roy wrote getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! the problem is not just poor management -- its a political problem. its not just dc its a problem across us companies. /rant mode on you see...... it used to be that industrial engineers were concerned with a fair days pay for a fair days work eliminating inefficiency waste and the fat. problem is the us cant complete with cheap labor from the third world. our politicians are eliminating trade barriers which means that us corporations are facing low-cost competition from overseas. industrial engineers are now tasked with cutting costs.....as long as the end product is still saleable in the *short term*. big friggin snip so thats why my car doesnt have a spare did it occur to you that it might have to do with the size or maybe the weight problem is this warped version of industrial engineering has been going on for so long theres not much inefficiency waste or fat left.*** so to get something that looks good on paper these geniuses are cutting the muscle and bone. theres only so much muscle and bone you can cut before you look at outsourcing as the solution to lower costs. its the us corporate version of suicide. its slow motion suicide for the us way-of-life. who will these corporations sell their products to when the service and leisure industries are all we have left /rant mode off ***frequently the lowest cost product in a product line is so poorly constructed that it will only function for a limited time -- if at all. .

From : tbone

in my assorted years of driving ive had to reinflate a couple tires. the last one i did the fellow who had the flat had just purchased a plugging kit for his garden tractor. the plug kit worked nicely and i had the compressor. the one before that was a spare wheel. a friend of mine had a flat in the church parking lot. he had a spare wheel and the jack and lug wrench. but the spare wasnt inflated. it was a ford expedition and im pleased that my little lighter socket power compressor did air up his spare. enough to get him going. i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. thaks for that inspirational tale. how does that fix a torn tire it doesnt thats what duct tape is for. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : roy

in my assorted years of driving ive had to reinflate a couple tires. the last one i did the fellow who had the flat had just purchased a plugging kit for his garden tractor. the plug kit worked nicely and i had the compressor. the one before that was a spare wheel. a friend of mine had a flat in the church parking lot. he had a spare wheel and the jack and lug wrench. but the spare wasnt inflated. it was a ford expedition and im pleased that my little lighter socket power compressor did air up his spare. enough to get him going. i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. thaks for that inspirational tale. how does that fix a torn tire it doesnt thats what duct tape is for. i cant stand all the quacking. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : roy

in my assorted years of driving ive had to reinflate a couple tires. the last one i did the fellow who had the flat had just purchased a plugging kit for his garden tractor. the plug kit worked nicely and i had the compressor. the one before that was a spare wheel. a friend of mine had a flat in the church parking lot. he had a spare wheel and the jack and lug wrench. but the spare wasnt inflated. it was a ford expedition and im pleased that my little lighter socket power compressor did air up his spare. enough to get him going. i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. thaks for that inspirational tale. how does that fix a torn tire it doesnt thats what duct tape is for. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving where ya been figured you and miles had gotten a room together neither one of ya have posted much recently.. gbfg .

From : roy

in my assorted years of driving ive had to reinflate a couple tires. the last one i did the fellow who had the flat had just purchased a plugging kit for his garden tractor. the plug kit worked nicely and i had the compressor. the one before that was a spare wheel. a friend of mine had a flat in the church parking lot. he had a spare wheel and the jack and lug wrench. but the spare wasnt inflated. it was a ford expedition and im pleased that my little lighter socket power compressor did air up his spare. enough to get him going. i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. thaks for that inspirational tale. how does that fix a torn tire christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl nex

From : stormin mormon

in my assorted years of driving ive had to reinflate a couple tires. the last one i did the fellow who had the flat had just purchased a plugging kit for his garden tractor. the plug kit worked nicely and i had the compressor. the one before that was a spare wheel. a friend of mine had a flat in the church parking lot. he had a spare wheel and the jack and lug wrench. but the spare wasnt inflated. it was a ford expedition and im pleased that my little lighter socket power compressor did air up his spare. enough to get him going. i had a strong impression to check his oil while myself and another fellow had his hood up. sure enough no oil showing on the stick. after two quarts what i had with me the oil barely reaches the end of the dipstick. it sure is nice to be lds / mormon and have the companionship of the spirit. has saved me so much trouble and also been a major blessing to others. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. getting ready to haul my skinny ass to fl next month then to dennys in a couple of months and it hit me. this car that i bought that has put a smile on my face every time i drive it has one big friggin shortcoming. no damn spare tire!!!!! not even a cheater! not even a jack or lug wrench!! i can just picture myself at 0300 in the middle of nowhere with a tire down. yup they give you this can of tire goo and a small compressor. but if the hole is a shade larger than a brad or is a tear it isnt going to work. so i can either depend on aaa and pray that they have the ability to fix the tire if it is repairable. if the tire is junk i have to find a place that has one in stock. anyway after a puncture it looses its speed rating so it should be replaced. or spend about $800.00+ for a tire wheel and small budda jack and toss in a torque wrench breaker bar and socket. this will eat up about 80% of the trunk. with the stuff that the wife has me taking utilizing all of the space in the trunk im surprised i can get in the car. this isnt good. done venting! .