Violent vibration breaks applied
From : dagon70
Q: hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. shaant .
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From : falconca
i had a similar problem with a broken tire sidewall. rolled on a brick at 50 mph if you roll on a flat tire or with wrong tire pressure you may broke or damage the sidewall. try to replace the passenger side wheel with your spare or move it on an other corner. qv3r02t1igjk6ne2oatbvvkj1p6ppvp3vo@4ax.com... on tue 07 mar 2006 064631 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. how did you tighten the bolts if you went in a circular fashion rather than a star pattern you could easily have warped your rotor. take it back off and retighten evenly in a star pattern. if the tires were balanced while on the vehicle then its possible it would have to be put back on the same way. that is a very rare situation and implies the rotor to be out of balance. doesnt sound like this is your issue. i agree that he has a warped rotor and retorquing it may not fix it. .
From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net
especially if he didnt use a torque wrench of any kind sorry that was for the wiseacres. beaming grin -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on tue 07 mar 2006 064631 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. how did you tighten the bolts if you went in a circular fashion rather than a star pattern you could easily have warped your rotor. take it back off and retighten evenly in a star pattern. if the tires were balanced while on the vehicle then its possible it would have to be put back on the same way. that is a very rare situation and implies the rotor to be out of balance. doesnt sound like this is your issue. i agree that he has a warped rotor and retorquing it may not fix it. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .
From : ed
its easy to find out if your rotor is warped. remove the tire and place a straight edge at various places around the disk. any warping sufficient to cause what you describe should be easily visible as a gap between the rotor and the straight edge - either in the middle of the disk or the inner or outer diameter. hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. shaant .
From : miles
..bob wrote to start with youll most likely get 15 people yelling warped brake rotor!. that may be true but i kind of doubt it. you would feel that severe a vibration at all speeds not just above 35mph. to make the whole truck shake like that it would have to be a pretty severe problem. on 2004 durangos there was a tsb issued for severe vibration when braking at speeds over 65mph. this happened with mine. no notice of any problem at lower speeds. the problem was with the rotors. probably a combination of the warpage and the design of the calipers. above 65mph the calipers began chattering horribly. it can happen. since it happened right after changing a tire my bet is still that the rotor became warped from improper torquing of lug nuts. .
From : bob
dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. shaant to start with youll most likely get 15 people yelling warped brake rotor!. that may be true but i kind of doubt it. you would feel that severe a vibration at all speeds not just above 35mph. to make the whole truck shake like that it would have to be a pretty severe problem. anything on the steering or suspension thats loose particularly in the front end will cause these symptoms. worn out tie rod ends ball joints a-arm bushings etc. with a 19 year old truck it could be almost anything. get the front end up in the air and check all theses things. be sure and check the steering shafts. dont forget to check the back end too. broken shock mount worn out spring bushing bad axle bearing etc. -- ..bob on order 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : marsh monster
dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. shaant ------- ------- define....fixed a flat define....since then questions did it have....any...brake vibration before the flat what part of the truck did you jack up on to raise the truck up possibilities keeping in mind its a 1987 fixer-upper the controll arm bushings fubarred when the truck was lifted up. the ball joint came loose in the controll arm when the truck was lifted up. the tie rod ball and socket popped when the truck was worked on. you took something off.....that you didnt put back on. you put something on....that you didnt take off. changed the wheel to a different one...a smaller one youre lieing.....and you did more than jest fix a flat. there are other possibilities... but...... from my experience...those are the most likely. not necessarily in that order though experience has made me start at the bottom of the list..and go up do a repost... let us know. marshmonster .
From : snoman
on tue 07 mar 2006 205724 -0700 .bob bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net wrote dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. shaant to start with youll most likely get 15 people yelling warped brake rotor!. that may be true but i kind of doubt it. you would feel that severe a vibration at all speeds not just above 35mph. to make the whole truck shake like that it would have to be a pretty severe problem. anything on the steering or suspension thats loose particularly in the front end will cause these symptoms. worn out tie rod ends ball joints a-arm bushings etc. with a 19 year old truck it could be almost anything. get the front end up in the air and check all theses things. be sure and check the steering shafts. dont forget to check the back end too. broken shock mount worn out spring bushing bad axle bearing etc. not true. my wifes cheeroke had warped rotors but it was far worse are higher speeds because the warp more as they heat up from braking forces. hers did no shake a lot until the rotors heated up. it is possible for a rotor to be fairly flat when cold and warp big time as it heats up. .
From : snoman
on tue 07 mar 2006 064631 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. how did you tighten the bolts if you went in a circular fashion rather than a star pattern you could easily have warped your rotor. take it back off and retighten evenly in a star pattern. if the tires were balanced while on the vehicle then its possible it would have to be put back on the same way. that is a very rare situation and implies the rotor to be out of balance. doesnt sound like this is your issue. i agree that he has a warped rotor and retorquing it may not fix it. .
From : miles
dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. how did you tighten the bolts if you went in a circular fashion rather than a star pattern you could easily have warped your rotor. take it back off and retighten evenly in a star pattern. if the tires were balanced while on the vehicle then its possible it would have to be put back on the same way. that is a very rare situation and implies the rotor to be out of balance. doesnt sound like this is your issue. .
From : adolphe menjou adolphe
.bob wrote dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. shaant to start with youll most likely get 15 people yelling warped brake rotor!. that may be true but i kind of doubt it. you would feel that severe a vibration at all speeds not just above 35mph. to make the whole truck shake like that it would have to be a pretty severe problem. anything on the steering or suspension thats loose particularly in the front end will cause these symptoms. worn out tie rod ends ball joints a-arm bushings etc. with a 19 year old truck it could be almost anything. get the front end up in the air and check all theses things. be sure and check the steering shafts. dont forget to check the back end too. broken shock mount worn out spring bushing bad axle bearing etc. -- .bob on order 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. loose caliper jam .
From : tbone
on tue 07 mar 2006 205724 -0700 .bob bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net wrote dagon70 wrote hello i have an 87 ram d250 5.9l v8 truck its my fixer upper project to learn more about cars. i just fixed a flat on the front passenger side. since then whenever i go over 35mph and apply the breaks to slow down/stop the car vibrates violentlyand im not using that term lightly. it feels like the whole truck is going to fall apart. any ideas or help greatly appreciate it. what i have done so far i made sure all the lug nuts are tight and secure; made sure the tire is seated right; the tire is the right size and everything. my guesses with some of these older trucks you have to install the tire at very specific way i.e. if you took the tire off with the valve stem at 6 oclock you have to put it back that way. second guess perhaps the rotors are warped and i need to re-surface them. shaant to start with youll most likely get 15 people yelling warped brake rotor!. that may be true but i kind of doubt it. you would feel that severe a vibration at all speeds not just above 35mph. to make the whole truck shake like that it would have to be a pretty severe problem. anything on the steering or suspension thats loose particularly in the front end will cause these symptoms. worn out tie rod ends ball joints a-arm bushings etc. with a 19 year old truck it could be almost anything. get the front end up in the air and check all theses things. be sure and check the steering shafts. dont forget to check the back end too. broken shock mount worn out spring bushing bad axle bearing etc. not true. my wifes cheeroke had warped rotors but it was far worse are higher speeds because the warp more as they heat up from braking forces. hers did no shake a lot until the rotors heated up. it is possible for a rotor to be fairly flat when cold and warp big time as it heats up. if that was happening then i would say that the rotor was defective to begin with. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .