Unexplained electrical Phenomena
From : Annonymous
Q: i have a 2002 dodge ram 1500 slt. i shut the truck off everything was fine. i came back and unlocked the door and went to use the electric door locks. they would not work. then i noticed a red light on in the instrument panel. this light turned out to be for a security system. the truck started fine i noticed then that the lights came on. even though the switch was off. i began to drive and noticed i had no turn signals i stopped and checked my break lights they also do not work. end results are no instruments no turn signals no break lights no interior lights head lights and tail lights come on as soon as the engine starts. any one have some help. .
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From : snoman
on mon 24 jul 2006 200557 -0500 js jsuter@intrastardot.net wrote nosey wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. the driveline would be fine... the lame frame and front suspention otoh would not. js the lam e part here is you children trying to pick fits to get your fix and get you fixes by attacking others that may know more than you so you try to put them down. what ever flips your skirts. btw i have been plowing snow for over 20 years and i would never use a 1/2 truck espaecaily today models as they are really lightly built. i only use 3/4 and 1 ton models i prefer 1 ton srws i buy a truck for a truck and nothing else. when i want a nice ride and gadgets i drive a car and i would never do anything to my work trucks to reduce their effective or reliablity. one more note a oil burner is the worst choice for a plow truck because if you put any kind of serious plow on it the front axle will be overloaded and airbags or timbren will not change that fact that axle is over loaded and it will shorten its service life and not to mention the potenail for instabilty when transporting that can occur when front end weighs 5k plus and rear weighs about 3 k or less. with a gass truck my front axle weights run 4000 to 4300 lbs when bed is loaded and plow is in carry position which is a lot mor manageable and easier to counter ballast too. because of this i never use 4x4 to transport in the worst weather. you kids just want to stir the pot you do not want to learn a thing. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : roy
on mon 24 jul 2006 200557 -0500 js jsuter@intrastardot.net wrote nosey wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. the driveline would be fine... the lame frame and front suspention otoh would not. js the lam e part here is you children trying to pick fits to get your fix and get you fixes by attacking others that may know more than you so you try to put them down. what ever flips your skirts. btw i have been plowing snow for over 20 years a few of us have been plowing snow twice as long as you. i know i dont have all the answers and can learn new stuff all the time. you on the other hand are spouting bs as in this post. one more note a oil burner is the worst choice for a plow truck because if you put any kind of serious plow on it the front axle will be overloaded and airbags or timbren will not change that fact that axle is over loaded and it will shorten its service life and not to mention the potenail for instabilty when transporting that can occur when front end weighs 5k plus and rear weighs about 3 k or less. this is pure bullshit! a cumminns weighs a few hundred pounds more than a gas. the lifespan of any truck is shortened not so much by the xtra 7-800 pounds a couple of feet ahead of the front bumper but more by a driver who dosent know how to plow snow. a question for ya have you ever heard of compensatory weight you seem concerned about transporting a plow. i would have thought after plowing for 20 years you would have learned that you make money pushing snow than running around with the blade in the air. perhaps you should learn a little route planning it will increase your bottom line. i read the rest of your post but it is just foolish to respond to it. .
From : Annonymous
on tue 25 jul 2006 132102 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on mon 24 jul 2006 200557 -0500 js jsuter@intrastardot.net wrote nosey wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. the driveline would be fine... the lame frame and front suspention otoh would not. js the lam e part here is you children trying to pick fits to get your fix and get you fixes by attacking others that may know more but may not too snoidiot. ill go with not. than you so you try to put them down. what ever flips your skirts. whatever flips your skirts geez. btw i have been plowing snow for over 20 years i think it has taken its toll on you too btw. and i would never use a 1/2 truck espaecaily today models as they are really lightly built. i only use 3/4 and 1 ton models i prefer 1 ton srws i buy a truck for a truck and nothing else. when i want a nice ride and gadgets i drive a car and i would never do anything to my work trucks to reduce their effective or reliablity. one more note a oil burner is the worst choice for a plow truck because if you put any kind of serious plow on it the front axle will be overloaded and airbags or timbren will not change that fact that axle is over loaded and it will shorten its service life and not to mention the potenail for instabilty when transporting that can occur when front end weighs 5k plus and rear weighs about 3 k or less. with a gass truck my front axle weights run 4000 to 4300 lbs when bed is loaded and plow is in carry position which is a lot mor manageable and easier to counter ballast too. because of this i never use 4x4 to transport in the worst weather. you kids just want to stir the pot you do not want to learn a thing. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : denny
on mon 24 jul 2006 200557 -0500 js jsuter@intrastardot.net wrote nosey wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. the driveline would be fine... the lame frame and front suspention otoh would not. js the lam e part here is you children trying to pick fits to get your fix and get you fixes by attacking others that may know more than you so you try to put them down. what ever flips your skirts. youre sounding like my three year old grandcritter. quit whining.. btw i have been plowing snow for over 20 years and i would never use a 1/2 truck espaecaily today models as they are really lightly built. one of my all time favorite movies was one of clint eastwoods dirty harry movies where hes talking to the captain and says every man should know his limitations. this sure fits here. i know of several including mine half ton trucks that have survived ten plus years of plowing without major repairs. my main problem to fix was the power steering getting hot. i had to put a cooler on the return line and problem fixed. the most common cause of truck breakage is the cowboy behind the wheel. im not even gonna start on the gas vs diesel arguement there is no end to that. denny .
From : snoman
on sun 23 jul 2006 060604 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote have you checked for bad fuses and trouble codes i suspect a grounding problem here. check all common grounds in dash area. when a ground opens up here all kinds of strange thing can happen as it seeks a ground through alternate paths. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : max dodge
have you checked for bad fuses and trouble codes -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i have a 2002 dodge ram 1500 slt. i shut the truck off everything was fine. i came back and unlocked the door and went to use the electric door locks. they would not work. then i noticed a red light on in the instrument panel. this light turned out to be for a security system. the truck started fine i noticed then that the lights came on. even though the switch was off. i began to drive and noticed i had no turn signals i stopped and checked my break lights they also do not work. end results are no instruments no turn signals no break lights no interior lights head lights and tail lights come on as soon as the engine starts. any one have some help. .
From : Annonymous
i have checked all fuses and the instrument panel does not work at all so i can not get an error code max dodge wrote have you checked for bad fuses and trouble codes -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i have a 2002 dodge ram 1500 slt. i shut the truck off everything was fine. i came back and unlocked the door and went to use the electric door locks. they would not work. then i noticed a red light on in the instrument panel. this light turned out to be for a security system. the truck started fine i noticed then that the lights came on. even though the switch was off. i began to drive and noticed i had no turn signals i stopped and checked my break lights they also do not work. end results are no instruments no turn signals no break lights no interior lights head lights and tail lights come on as soon as the engine starts. any one have some help. .
From : Annonymous
just heard from the dealership it is the computer module that handles the instrument panel they say .
From : max dodge
sadly it took out the dash so the code could not be found. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author just heard from the dealership it is the computer module that handles the instrument panel they say .
From : snoman
on mon 24 jul 2006 055953 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote next check for loose wire connectors and/or loose grounds bare wires etc. look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. chasing gremlins you need to focus on grounds first then elsewhere rather than shooting blind here. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : Annonymous
seeing that i am a electrical troubleshooter by trade grounding is where i did go next. the problem is that in order to get there you must remove all the dash components to get to them. .
From : max dodge
next check for loose wire connectors and/or loose grounds bare wires etc. look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i have checked all fuses and the instrument panel does not work at all so i can not get an error code max dodge wrote have you checked for bad fuses and trouble codes -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i have a 2002 dodge ram 1500 slt. i shut the truck off everything was fine. i came back and unlocked the door and went to use the electric door locks. they would not work. then i noticed a red light on in the instrument panel. this light turned out to be for a security system. the truck started fine i noticed then that the lights came on. even though the switch was off. i began to drive and noticed i had no turn signals i stopped and checked my break lights they also do not work. end results are no instruments no turn signals no break lights no interior lights head lights and tail lights come on as soon as the engine starts. any one have some help. .
From : Annonymous
on mon 24 jul 2006 130658 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on mon 24 jul 2006 055953 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote next check for loose wire connectors and/or loose grounds bare wires etc. look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. chasing gremlins you need to focus on grounds first then elsewhere rather than shooting blind here. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years .
From : roy
on mon 24 jul 2006 130658 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on mon 24 jul 2006 055953 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote next check for loose wire connectors and/or loose grounds bare wires etc. look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. chasing gremlins you need to focus on grounds first then elsewhere rather than shooting blind here. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton .
From : chris thompson
.. on mon 24 jul 2006 130658 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on mon 24 jul 2006 055953 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote next check for loose wire connectors and/or loose grounds bare wires etc. look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. chasing gremlins you need to focus on grounds first then elsewhere rather than shooting blind here. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs .
From : denny
on mon 24 jul 2006 130658 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years i really wish that i hadnt read that while i was eating lunch. cucumbers and onions going backwards thru the nasal channels is not good.... denny .
From : john kunkel
i have a 2002 dodge ram 1500 slt. i shut the truck off everything was fine. i came back and unlocked the door and went to use the electric door locks. they would not work. then i noticed a red light on in the instrument panel. this light turned out to be for a security system. the truck started fine i noticed then that the lights came on. even though the switch was off. i began to drive and noticed i had no turn signals i stopped and checked my break lights they also do not work. end results are no instruments no turn signals no break lights no interior lights head lights and tail lights come on as soon as the engine starts. did the dealer install provisions for an aftermarket alarm system the guys who go around the dealerships and install these systems often have minimal skill and knowledge and their sloppy wiring/splicing can cause all sorts of electrical gremlins. .
From : roy
on mon 24 jul 2006 130658 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years i really wish that i hadnt read that while i was eating lunch. cucumbers and onions going backwards thru the nasal channels is not good.... cukes and onions!! breath ya can weld with. bfg roy denny .
From : snoman
on mon 24 jul 2006 142925 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the dude i was working on cars before you were likelu born and i have seen many many times want bad grounds can cause. when you have sudden multiple unrelated failures it is most likley a grounding isses because current will try to find another path to ground and do all kinda of strange things sometimes. i am trying to help him find a cure while you are just trying to shoot the messanger because you do not understand his message. btw i have a electrical and mech engineering background too do you ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : max dodge
next check for loose wire connectors and/or loose grounds bare wires etc. look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. chasing gremlins you need to focus on grounds first then elsewhere rather than shooting blind here. shooting blind is exactly what youve chosen to do. you have eliminated from the list any observation of the wiring harness. if after finding it looking normal then testing each malfunctioning component not just for ground but for all circuits proper operation is the next step. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author on mon 24 jul 2006 055953 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote next check for loose wire connectors and/or loose grounds bare wires etc. look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. chasing gremlins you need to focus on grounds first then elsewhere rather than shooting blind here. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : Annonymous
on mon 24 jul 2006 173034 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on mon 24 jul 2006 142925 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the dude i was working on cars before you were likelu born and i have seen many many times want bad grounds can cause. i wasnt likelu born whatever the hell that is. if you mean likely then i doubt it. when did you hatch when you have sudden multiple unrelated failures it is most likley a grounding isses because current will try to find another path to ground and do all kinda of strange things sometimes. thats pretty rude. you need to get that current in line. you know shape that current up or kick its ass. i am trying to help him find a cure while you are just trying to shoot the messanger because you do not understand his message. it wasnt the message that i didnt understand you fucking moron. it was the messinger that i didnt/dont understand. btw i have a electrical and mech engineering background too do you enough to know that electricity can hurt a lot. shit i have been shocked by just about every kind of current that you can think of at one time or another. that is about as familiar as i care to get with it. as for my mech experience i have a very good mechanic and............ that aint bad. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : nosey
required and what is availble but you would think that is bs too because you do not understand any of the physics here only your ego. yeah but he has a bigger gun than you do. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com . 222 320119 ea3p4j$nuu$1@nntp.aioe.org dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. -- ken .
From : js
nosey wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. the driveline would be fine... the lame frame and front suspention otoh would not. js .
From : nosey
js wrote nosey wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. the driveline would be fine... the lame frame and front suspention otoh would not. js i agree. sarcasm isnt obvious in print. sorry for the confusion. -- ken .
From : js
nosey wrote js wrote nosey wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. the driveline would be fine... the lame frame and front suspention otoh would not. js i agree. sarcasm isnt obvious in print. sorry for the confusion. hah i missed the joke. thats not unusual! js .
From : chris thompson
dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the answer man yes. but the correct answers is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years gee do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton only if its a gasser that might work if he had 5.881 gears. -- ken lol -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .
From : denny
denny wrote on mon 24 jul 2006 130658 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years i really wish that i hadnt read that while i was eating lunch. cucumbers and onions going backwards thru the nasal channels is not good.... denny he does eat wabbit food! bob yup. keeps the fir sleek and shiny.. denny .
From : bob m
denny wrote on mon 24 jul 2006 130658 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote dude you have really become like the shell answer man of the is there any thread that you dont chime in on is there anything that you dont think you are an expert on is this like our kharma coming to roost i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years i really wish that i hadnt read that while i was eating lunch. cucumbers and onions going backwards thru the nasal channels is not good.... denny he does eat wabbit food! bob .