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From : phyloe

Q: for years i have been seeing people put bags of sand in the bed of their truck during the winter. i have been questioning whether this little bit of added weight really helps traction. i figure the rear end of a truck weighs at least 1000 lbs. most people add 100 pounds of sand or several cinder blocks. so how could an additional 10% make any real difference isnt the rear end heavy enough as it is isnt the addition of sand or blocks just a psychological thing the perception of greater traction phyloe -- life is the things that happen while youre waiting for things that never happen sigh here we go again..... mike .

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From : diesel guy

maybe we should just call you pinky-poo -- budd at least i aint a member of the sissy seat society.... denny thats true you are a member of the very wide seat society....... roy remember folks this is coming from the pudge that traded his little sports car for a pick up truck so his ass would fit. and a 2wd at that. you know some people have a height problem.. vbg denny now ya gotta get it right. i sold the z06 although fyi people that weigh in excess of 300 pounds have no problem driving them. sorry friend i really didnt realize you were that pudgy..... that means that one of your girth my furry friend could drive a vette with room to spare. that makes me what about 175-200 lbs shy of your acreage... anyway sue wanted a tahoe z-71. i jumped out of the snow plowing and didnt have any use for a 2500 4x4 diesel so that went with the business. i still wanted a pick up for use around the house and towing the atvs so the lightning was just the truck. i wish it was a 4x4 though. with regard to a height problem you are taller than me. only with your ears up. bfg i liked the way my version fitted my needs better.... bg to be expected. g ill take my bengles over your pats if you give me 17 points... you game 17 you ask a lot. i think my pats are playing and as we speak are beating a team called the bengals. you want them too bfg roy .

From : budd cochran

roy im on a 56 k dialup and by the time so many of these neat little videos load its gone. no repeats. so i have to see what i can see as it loads in jumps and jerks. besides you and i both know that those little scooter wheels probably could not handle 90+ quartermile speeds let alone the 9600 rpm they would need to turn at 100 mph. theyre soft urethane on a plastic hub with cheap ball bearings. then you have the horrid front fork geometry the natural instability of the design not to mention the kids inherent instability due to a lack of a seat! a brake that would wear out after only a couple runs if it didnt chunk the tire! sorry but if you want to believe it then youve been staring at too many pink bunny pictures my friend. what would lead you to believe i thought it was true i merely pointed out that the kids hair was not visible as he was wearing a helmet. whats the matter with pink rabbitsg roy .

From : budd cochran

its supposed to be in the 50s today in moab and in the 70s in canon city co . . .boy ill be glad to get back there. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. now you know thats not right roy . . i got a third you got a third and dennys got a turd . . er third. -- budd pellets budd dennys got pellets. -- fmb only one b in fmb hmmmm.. another smartass that i can add to my list....... g denny hey rabbit!! you folks have any cold weather or snow supposed to get cold here by tue. roy hey pudge!! not yet. a few flurries now and then its about 35 outside right now. i think tonight maybe 25. not really calling for anything for the next week. the story of my life truck is ready to go and nothing to do. denny pudge huh smartass. my truck is ready to go too. got the blizzaks on all four corners and 320lbs. of wood pellets in the back. be fun to see how it goes in the snow. gotta tell ya once you take the summer tires of ya have to peddle it on dry pavement. probably going to have to stay off the gas and let off the brake easy to get under way. it will be a test for the blizzaks for sure. but then again they worked great with the diesel and the torque. roy i guess the shoe fit...you answered.. bg ya know ifn you had a real truck with one of those funny front differential thingys you wouldnt have to use all those hi-tech tires add in all that un-needed weight in the back and soft pedal it all the time. actually im surprised the ford can spin em even when it is slippery... now that ive thrown a little gas on the fire its back to putting up the christmas tree.... be nice!! vbg denny roy just be glad you aint got heated leather seats or hed be on your ass about that too! no snow in mo yet cept we did have about 4 the day before thanksgiving! mike .

From : mac davis

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From : mike simmons

is there a website that anyone knows of where i can check my 2000 dakota p/u or do i just call daimler canada mopar man wrote about premature wear and failure of upper ball joints in durango/dakota. its about time dc did something about this. problem is seems it should include 96-99 vehicles as well. i remember a paper article about a guy that went to dc to get them to repair the dammage caused by a wheel that flipped out because it came out of the ball joint. i think at first dcx refused then they said they would if signed an agreement that he would never publicize the incident. he refused and had a private garage repair it and then he went public. dc definately gets a black eye over this one. so much for customer service... whats even worse is some idiot on this group defended the ball joints... i had to replace mine 3 times on my 98 durango. i sold the durango and got a 2003 4 runner. 0 problems for the two years that i owned it. i was looking at www.4adodge.com and there is a box to click search. put in the word recall and then it takes you to another page where you can enter the last few letters/numbers of your vin. now i didnt go that far but thats what i saw. speeker .

From : denny

i bought a refill kit at pepboys one with the built in guage but i think the guage must have been bad because it would barely move the whole time. it took the whole can about as tall as a tall beer can and still wasnt showing any pressure. i pulled the connector off and the low side started hissing and dribbling oil. so i put the cap back on tight and it stopped. the ac was now blowing ice cold air and the compressor was still going on and off but the frequency was less frequent. all the hoses on the low side are cold now. what concerns me is should the low side dribble when the cap is off and why is the compressor still going on and off .

From : denny

diesel guy wrote on thu 09 dec 2004 192530 -0600 ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com writes line-x is a harder smoother surface. its a bit more durable. the rhino is a softer more rubbery surface that helps keep cargo from shifting around. i have a rhino and like it but its showing its age. i have a few minor damaged spots from abuse. the rhino has a lifetime warranty but i havent bothered to get it fixed yet. im satisfied with its performance but a line-x would have probably served my purposes better. in spite of claims to the contrary my line-x liner hasnt exactly been 100% impervious to scrapes and gouges but overall its held up pretty well. im pleased and no major gripes. line-x claims a lifetime warranty and free fixes but just try and avail yourself of those free fixes and youll likely find as i did that the applicators make it pretty inconvenient for you to get it fixed. my own dealer told me they only do warranty work during the business day 8-5 on tuesdays and only then by special appointment. so to get it fixed i have to take a day off from work or waste a vacation day. phuque that. apparently line-x company expects the applicator to stand good the installation and so doesnt get reimbursed for his warranty labor and of course the amount of material needed to fix a gouge or two is negligible. still im very satisfied with my line-x liner and would go with a line-x again. its your dealer. i had a slit in mine on the tailgate. drove it in and as soon as he finished spraying the truck in the bay he came out and looked at mine and said no problem. went back in and got a tube of superglue and glued the stuff back down. after about a month of dragging stuff over the tailgate i cant even see the split anymore. i was a bit surprised at the method of repair though ;- with mine he just took some of the goo that was over spray from the job they just finished and worked it into the slit. worked fine and still looks good. line-x weathers better but rhino grips better and deadens sound a little better but not enough to make a fuss over. i would stick with rhino since that is what i have always used but line-x is a good product. ken b i cant speak to line-x but i know of rhino and perma-tech which i have. same warranties as far as i know peeling color fading etc but very different look. my perma-tech is color matched to my silver truck and looks great holds up very well also. what is not covered by any that i know of is damage caused by use. what i mean is if you slide your metal ramps in and out of the truck enough times youll wear through it eventually. what is very cool is that it is very easily repaired. ill always have spray on bedliner and never own another slip in style plastic one. if line-x makes similar claims its probably worth while. word of caution none of the dealers ive seen around here upstate ny put any of them on as thick as the manufacturer advertises them. .

From : theguy

on sat 11 dec 2004 200045 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on sat 11 dec 2004 020203 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote very true. 9mm is pretty cheap. my .40 rounds have been pretty cheap too but obviously more than the 9mm. i stocked up at a few gun shows and probably still have about 600 rounds of .40 and more of 9mm. the .45 gap is different though. rounds are costing me $15 box since it is a new round no one has any sales on them yet. it really is a hoot to shoot though. it is a little heavy on the slide so it has a real thud to it. they had to weight the slide to slow down the recoil as the recoil was so fast the gun wasnt going into battery after each round! if you have a chance though shoot one. very fun and i think you could depend on it to put a real scare in the old bowling ball next time. it will start out as a giggle then a little snicker and then an outright belly laugh.... that would be mr. bowling ball laughing hysterically at that cartridge. vbg correct me if im out in left field the .45 gap has approx 900-1000 fps muzzle velocity depending on bullet weight and approx 375-410 muzzle energy. am i in the ballpark on those figures the 500 smith with the 350 grain bullet has 1900 fps and 2800 ft/lbs at the muzzle. i shot my bowling ball with a 440 gr hardcast and i dont remember off the top of my head what those figures are but they should be fairly close to these. seven hits and the ball was rendered unusable as far as bowling goes but it sure didnt take it apart like i thought it would. if you should go find an old ball to try this ill put a glass of iced tea on the bowling ball... bg denny would make for a fun experiment. you are in the ball park. we are looking at 950 and 1020 for the rounds that i have right now. i had some that worked out to the 830s and 870s. i will see if one of the guys can round up an old bowling ball sometime and let you know. you may be right but the .45 is a very gritty weapon. it was really only made for one thing and that is trauma or impact i suppose depending upon how you want to look at it. i also have some interesting gap loads that i got directly form a glock factory rep. maybe ill hold onto those for the ball i would think that with the way a bowling ball is made to really hurt it you would have to be able to direct all your rounds into the same spot. shot placement may be a key i put three shots into about an inch square area and knocked a chunk of the outer case of the ball off. the casing was approx an inch thick and looked to be made out of a hard plastic. the core of the ball was extremely hard rubber. putting a shot directly into the core got penetration on about half an inch. the gas check on the bottom of the bullet was close to flush with the core surface. it was dammed near impossible to dig that bullet out it was really imbedded into that rubber. and the weird thing was when i put the ball back in the truck to go back to the shop it smelled bad of burnt rubber. those rounds must have generated some heat when they hit. the only way that i can say i won over the ball was that 16 lb ball flew about 10-15 ft with every hit. ill still side with the ball over your gap. have fun!! denny .

From : roy

on sat 11 dec 2004 200045 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on sat 11 dec 2004 020203 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote very true. 9mm is pretty cheap. my .40 rounds have been pretty cheap too but obviously more than the 9mm. i stocked up at a few gun shows and probably still have about 600 rounds of .40 and more of 9mm. the .45 gap is different though. rounds are costing me $15 box since it is a new round no one has any sales on them yet. it really is a hoot to shoot though. it is a little heavy on the slide so it has a real thud to it. they had to weight the slide to slow down the recoil as the recoil was so fast the gun wasnt going into battery after each round! if you have a chance though shoot one. very fun and i think you could depend on it to put a real scare in the old bowling ball next time. it will start out as a giggle then a little snicker and then an outright belly laugh.... that would be mr. bowling ball laughing hysterically at that cartridge. vbg correct me if im out in left field the .45 gap has approx 900-1000 fps muzzle velocity depending on bullet weight and approx 375-410 muzzle energy. am i in the ballpark on those figures the 500 smith with the 350 grain bullet has 1900 fps and 2800 ft/lbs at the muzzle. i shot my bowling ball with a 440 gr hardcast and i dont remember off the top of my head what those figures are but they should be fairly close to these. seven hits and the ball was rendered unusable as far as bowling goes but it sure didnt take it apart like i thought it would. if you should go find an old ball to try this ill put a glass of iced tea on the bowling ball... bg denny would make for a fun experiment. you are in the ball park. we are looking at 950 and 1020 for the rounds that i have right now. i had some that worked out to the 830s and 870s. i will see if one of the guys can round up an old bowling ball sometime and let you know. you may be right but the .45 is a very gritty weapon. it was really only made for one thing and that is trauma or impact i suppose depending upon how you want to look at it. i also have some interesting gap loads that i got directly form a glock factory rep. maybe ill hold onto those for the ball i would think that with the way a bowling ball is made to really hurt it you would have to be able to direct all your rounds into the same spot. shot placement may be a key .

From : denny

then more then likely the driveshaft is causing the problem when i worked for dodge we ran into that problem before maxpower wrote been awhile since i worked on trucks but let me put my 2 cents in it you say speed sensitive and meaning engine can you tach it up at idle to make the vibration to isolate the trans-driveshaft-wheels. i mean if it does it without moving that would narrow it down to maybe the torque convertor/engine/pulleys if it does it at highway speeds can you put it in neutral to isolate trans-and engine while crusing at highway speeds that would leave drive shaft-rear end-wheels and i dont know if they have the button still on those trucks like my 95 but can you kick it out of overdrive glenn beasley chrysler tech no more dodge trucks well the shop is stumped. according to them they have done all that the factory recommended and it still vibrates. pretty much highway speeds. feel it in seat/floor/and steering wheel. shop mgr says it may be engine had the same thing and it was the exhaust. remove the muffler and see what happens. roy gary supposedly the shop did all the above. i did the overdrive and throwing it into neutral while vibrating. continued even when in neutral. theyve replaced the torque converter and harmonic balancer. will mention the exhaust. thanks. .

From : budd cochran

oh sorry i thought for a moment you meant me and as the groups mayor. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. you found him where at we lost him several weeks ago thats our town mayor tell him to get home now uh well . . .er maybe i better not mention the fat old coot on the cushman riding as cutter. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. damn bud...you are good.. right to the tee!! oh no . . . now i get this mental picture of a middle aged hells angel on a chopper lassoing honey bees hog tying five out of six legs and then branding them with a little tiny branding iron heated with a bic lighter. well that certainly made my morning . . . . vbg -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. on wed 8 dec 2004 174428 -0500 maxpower damnnickname@yahoo.com wrote was that your bee that stung me did it have my brand on it beekeep .

From : budd cochran

to verify any kind of water contamination you would have to get a sample from the truck they may consist of pumping out 1/2 gallon from the fuel rail damnnickname@yahoo.com writes when i say fuel related i dont mean what the supplier delivers im refering to what is at the bottom of the tanks in the ground that you purchased it from water sediment and all that crap i always make it a habbit to not purchase fuel from a facility that has the tanker there filling up the in ground tanks all that does is stir up the trash at the bottom for you to put in your tank that makes sense. at consistently 810 under the competition you can probably imagine the volume this guy sells. frequently on mondays when i fill up half of his pumps have plastic bags over the 87-octane nozzle and the others are flowing *really* slow probably almost out too. still i have to wonder why are some of his pumps completely out of regular and others on a different island -not- out maybe he has multiple underground tanks for the same grade. thats the only thing that would explain it. i think we may have actually hit on something here. i dont know if im going to get a chance to work on the truck this weekend or not but i think ill start running some chevron or exxon through it and see if theres any improvement. cant hurt and what the hell its only money. .

From : denny

btw on the other points weight transfer center of gravity and effective coefficient of friction . . look them up idiot. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. read it again you obsessive nutcase. i said i rarely got stuck i just didnt specify in what type of material or vehicle. just like the first time i mentioned it except i have never been stuck in snow in my old d-150. i have been stuck in sand and mud in several vehicles. you really screwed up this time tom ... but then youre really screwed up arent you -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. on my old d150 about 300 pounds made a huge difference but i used snow myself. snows cheaper and ive rarely got stuck. you said that you never got stuck in the snow. i guess that was a lie. i hope youre not supporting t-bones erroneous viewpoint that all extra weight makes for longer stops. i said that depends on conditions budd. please stop twisting what i said to suit your desperate needs. btw your example about the bike rider shifts the existing weight to the rear it doesnt add any there so it is an invalid comparrison. more weight to the rear weight added to the bed that is will increase the traction and braking effectiveness by increasing the percentage of the weight that does not shift forward upon braking. care to explain that one. but snow and ice is what causes the most dramatic increase in braking distance if you dont add weight and far more that any distance increase from the weight itself. that depends on the conditions. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. not bad. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tipring

go to www.wimp.com/scooter watch the vid. budd heres an idea to enable that cushman to move ya a bit quicker. roy .

From : roy

on sat 11 dec 2004 185038 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote now you know thats not right roy . . i got a third you got a third and dennys got a turd . . er third. -- budd pellets budd dennys got pellets. -- fmb only one b in fmb hmmmm.. another smartass that i can add to my list....... g denny yep.. if youve spent time around rabbits you dont eat raisins.. *g* i like rabbets a lot better.. .

From : denny

a little more relaxed i little more polluted i have a 1995 ram 4x4 with a 318. i am in canada so our laws are a little more relaxed. i use a vortex cherry bomb i gutted my cat and run dual 3 from catback and i love them. very throaty. jas on sat 11 dec 2004 174241 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote i have a cat back dual exhaust system from rhino performance and it rusted out in two years so i want to go with a different brand without spending a fortune. 95 ram 1500 ext cab 4x4 5.9l 192k and running great. meineke muffler has a vortex system but they tell me massachusetts is now rejecting their system at inspection for noise. i would like to spend no more than $400 pass inspection and still sound a bit throaty i really dont want anything too loud . any suggestions im in ma and have a fairly loud system friends have flows and no problem with inspection. .

From : roy

i have a 1995 ram 4x4 with a 318. i am in canada so our laws are a little more relaxed. i use a vortex cherry bomb i gutted my cat and run dual 3 from catback and i love them. very throaty. jas on sat 11 dec 2004 174241 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote i have a cat back dual exhaust system from rhino performance and it rusted out in two years so i want to go with a different brand without spending a fortune. 95 ram 1500 ext cab 4x4 5.9l 192k and running great. meineke muffler has a vortex system but they tell me massachusetts is now rejecting their system at inspection for noise. i would like to spend no more than $400 pass inspection and still sound a bit throaty i really dont want anything too loud . any suggestions im in ma and have a fairly loud system friends have flows and no problem with inspection. .

From : fmb

check it out here. http//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6694782/ anyone have info on what the stipulations are for re embursment of ball joint repair had mine done off warranty. the recall is for ball joints. thanks in advance happy holidays .

From : budd cochran

about premature wear and failure of upper ball joints in durango/dakota. its about time dc did something about this. problem is seems it should include 96-99 vehicles as well. i remember a paper article about a guy that went to dc to get them to repair the dammage caused by a wheel that flipped out because it came out of the ball joint. i think at first dcx refused then they said they would if signed an agreement that he would never publicize the incident. he refused and had a private garage repair it and then he went public. dc definately gets a black eye over this one. so much for customer service... ------------------- dcx recalls 600000 durangos dakotas december 11 2004 by dee-ann durbin associated press washington -- bowing to pressure from federal safety regulators daimlerchrysler ag said friday it is recalling 600000 dodge durango suvs and dakota pickups because of a defect that can cause their wheels to fall off. the recall affects four-wheel drive vehicles from the 2000-03 model years. the national highway traffic safety administration recommended the recall after a 16-month investigation revealed that the vehicles upper ball joints could fail. if that happens the suspension can collapse and a wheel can fall off. daimlerchrysler also is extending the warranty to 10 years or 100000 miles on the suspension upper ball joints on an additional 400000 durango front-wheel drive suvs and dakota front-wheel drive pickups from model years 2000 to 2003. nhtsa didnt request a recall of the front-wheel drive versions but daimlerchrysler wanted to include those customers by extending their warranties chrysler group spokesman max gates said. nhtsa announced a separate recall friday of 2004 durangos because a cable can short-circuit and cause a fire under the hood. there are 71763 vehicles involved in that recall. on thursday after word spread that nhtsa was requesting a recall daimlerchrysler acknowledged a problem with the ball joints but said it didnt believe it warranted a safety recall. daimlerchrysler says there have been no reported injuries due to the defect that have been substantiated by the company. there also are no injuries due to ball joint failures listed in nhtsas files. gates said owners would hear noises before a ball joint failed. the automaker will repair vehicles for free starting next month. it costs between $750 and $1200 to replace the ball joint depending on the dealer and the area according to a lawsuit filed against daimlerchrysler by durango owners in north carolina. daimlerchrysler said it will reimburse owners who already paid for the repair.when nhtsa opened its investigation in july 2003 there were 28 complaints about upper ball joint failure and five reports of crashes. nhtsa spokeswoman liz neblett couldnt provide updated numbers friday. some dodge dealers were deluged with calls from worried durango and dakota owners friday after media reports of the problem. by afternoon ourisman dodge in alexandria va. had gotten 20 telephone calls service manager oscar chavez said. chavez said he was forwarding calls to daimlerchrysler. the frenzy over the durango offered an unusual glimpse into the auto-recall process. nhtsa often sends letters recommending a recall but the letters arent usually publicized. the agency then works with automakers to determine when the recall will take place. in most cases the recommendation is enough to spark a recall. the agency has taken automakers to court to force recalls nine times in its 34-year history neblett said. the last court action that resulted in a recall was in 1979 when nhtsa forced fiat to recall vehicles because of a rust problem. while a recall of 600000 vehicles is substantial its not the largest in the industry this year. in march general motors corp. announced it was recalling nearly 4 million trucks because their tailgates could fall off. meanwhile ford motor co. said friday it is recalling about 474000 ford escape suvs worldwide because of an accelerator problem that can cause the engine to race. the automaker said it does not know of any accidents or injuries related to the problem. the recalled vehicles are from model years 2002 to 2004. in addition honda agreed to replace the faulty oil filters believed responsible for engine fires in 2003-2005 cr-v sport utility vehicles. honda will begin notifying approximately 295000 cr-v owners of the potential for the vehicle to catch fire after its first oil change. honda will also offer to inspect the oil filters of recently serviced cr-vs and replace the filters free if necessary. .

From : james goforth

damnnickname@yahoo.com writes when i say fuel related i dont mean what the supplier delivers im refering to what is at the bottom of the tanks in the ground that you purchased it from water sediment and all that crap i always make it a habbit to not purchase fuel from a facility that has the tanker there filling up the in ground tanks all that does is stir up the trash at the bottom for you to put in your tank that makes sense. at consistently 810 under the competition you can probably imagine the volume this guy sells. frequently on mondays when i fill up half of his pumps have plastic bags over the 87-octane nozzle and the others are flowing *really* slow probably almost out too. still i have to wonder why are some of his pumps completely out of regular and others on a different island -not- out maybe he has multiple underground tanks for the same grade. thats the only thing that would explain it. i think we may have actually hit on something here. i dont know if im going to get a chance to work on the truck this weekend or not but i think ill start running some chevron or exxon through it and see if theres any improvement. cant hurt and what the hell its only money. .

From : denny

mikesim@yhti.net writes two other things come to mind that bear checking 1. you may have routed the plug wires too closely together causing a crossfire situation. in fact on your truck there may be a tsb which addresses this. 2. with that many miles you may have a significant carbon buildup in the combustion chamber and around the valves. the carbon acts as a sponge soaking up the fuel intended for the cylinder causing the misfire. a good combustion chamber cleaner may help for this. thanks mike will check this too. one thing ive discovered is after clearing the codes i can sometimes actually make it come back by starting the truck with slight accidental throttle pressure about -throttle while cranking. the result of course is a peppy over-rev maybe 2000-2500 rpm at first ignition but only for a second or so. however then within 30 secs or so after an accidental over-revd start the check engine light will come on and stay on 43 until cleared again. i realize i shouldnt do that and conciously try not too but s%#! happens. .

From : denny

kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com writes line-x is a harder smoother surface. its a bit more durable. the rhino is a softer more rubbery surface that helps keep cargo from shifting around. i have a rhino and like it but its showing its age. i have a few minor damaged spots from abuse. the rhino has a lifetime warranty but i havent bothered to get it fixed yet. im satisfied with its performance but a line-x would have probably served my purposes better. in spite of claims to the contrary my line-x liner hasnt exactly been 100% impervious to scrapes and gouges but overall its held up pretty well. im pleased and no major gripes. line-x claims a lifetime warranty and free fixes but just try and avail yourself of those free fixes and youll likely find as i did that the applicators make it pretty inconvenient for you to get it fixed. my own dealer told me they only do warranty work during the business day 8-5 on tuesdays and only then by special appointment. so to get it fixed i have to take a day off from work or waste a vacation day. phuque that. apparently line-x company expects the applicator to stand good the installation and so doesnt get reimbursed for his warranty labor and of course the amount of material needed to fix a gouge or two is negligible. still im very satisfied with my line-x liner and would go with a line-x again. .

From : jerry

denny wrote i hate to admit it but i was/am sitting at the kitchen table. i got a ruger 345 last saturday and tried it out after work this afternoon. i was just sitting here cleaning and putting it back together. have you shot it yet 45 auto weighing only 29 ounces should be a hand full to hang onto. guess it cant be any worse than the p-11 i have at 14 ounces. jerry i ran 16 rds thru it and it really isnt bad id compare it to my p95 9mm. it sure is a whole lot less than the 500. i didnt have any problems hitting a 9 paper plate at 17 steps. i wasnt trying to shoot fast but i wasnt aiming every shot either. it has a nice feel to it. im curious to how a light on the rail will effect the recoil if itll keep the muzzle down much. denny .

From : jerry

mike simmons wrote and every bowling ball in ohio is running for its life! i dont know ........... from what i heard the last bowling ball he tangled with came out the on top....... jerry aint that the truth!! ill never f@#* with a bowling ball again... now they did offer up another challenge for the ole 500 and ill tell you that a golf ball hit dead on from about 17 steps will fly about 70-80 yds. nice little round hole in the front and a nice bigger hole in the back. i should have used hollow points instead of hardcast im sure it would have had better effect. denny .

From : roy

nitpik wrote i live in the mountains where there are often slick snow conditions. my wifes weight of 130 lbs. moving to the back of the van was often enough to make the difference .. not like having four wheel drive but it would get us home. the sand tubes are also handy if you get stuck to use a little of the sand around the wheels to get you moving again. i dont think i can convince my wife to sit on the tailgate. and if i even once suggested the ole lady go sit on the tailgate id be picking my teeth up out of the next county.... no sense of humor at all in her old age.. denny being married to you... thats understandable.... ;^ mike what is with this shit you and ole roy both picking on sweet innocent me at the same time. talk about conspiracies sp denny .

From : mike simmons

denny wrote i hate to admit it but i was/am sitting at the kitchen table. i got a ruger 345 last saturday and tried it out after work this afternoon. i was just sitting here cleaning and putting it back together. have you shot it yet 45 auto weighing only 29 ounces should be a hand full to hang onto. guess it cant be any worse than the p-11 i have at 14 ounces. jerry .

From : denny

nitpik wrote i live in the mountains where there are often slick snow conditions. my wifes weight of 130 lbs. moving to the back of the van was often enough to make the difference .. not like having four wheel drive but it would get us home. the sand tubes are also handy if you get stuck to use a little of the sand around the wheels to get you moving again. i dont think i can convince my wife to sit on the tailgate. and if i even once suggested the ole lady go sit on the tailgate id be picking my teeth up out of the next county.... no sense of humor at all in her old age.. denny being married to you... thats understandable.... ;^ mike what is with this shit you and ole roy both picking on sweet innocent me at the same time. talk about conspiracies sp denny ya left out a word with yer sweet innocent me bs the word is pudgy or perhaps very pudgy now that t day has past. hell im surprised your not at the table waiting for christmas dinner. innocent my ass.bfg roy speaking of pudgy i was standing on the scales at the dr. office today with my shoes on and the ole scale balanced out at 202 lbs. twelve more to go and im happy... i hate to admit it but i was/am sitting at the kitchen table. i got a ruger 345 last saturday and tried it out after work this afternoon. i was just sitting here cleaning and putting it back together. no theres no munchies within reach either.. g denny and every bowling ball in ohio is running for its life! ;^ mike .

From : roy

ty for the info--hope the dealer can fix it right this time. 35500 mi on the truck-just 500 left on warranty and error code first appears. took it to dealer who said there was service bulletin out on it and it was ok after he worked on it--for all of 115 miles. error code is now back and i am making another trip to the dealer. is there anything i should be aware of with this problem .

From : denny

nitpik wrote i live in the mountains where there are often slick snow conditions. my wifes weight of 130 lbs. moving to the back of the van was often enough to make the difference .. not like having four wheel drive but it would get us home. the sand tubes are also handy if you get stuck to use a little of the sand around the wheels to get you moving again. i dont think i can convince my wife to sit on the tailgate. and if i even once suggested the ole lady go sit on the tailgate id be picking my teeth up out of the next county.... no sense of humor at all in her old age.. denny being married to you... thats understandable.... ;^ mike what is with this shit you and ole roy both picking on sweet innocent me at the same time. talk about conspiracies sp denny ya left out a word with yer sweet innocent me bs the word is pudgy or perhaps very pudgy now that t day has past. hell im surprised your not at the table waiting for christmas dinner. innocent my ass.bfg roy speaking of pudgy i was standing on the scales at the dr. office today with my shoes on and the ole scale balanced out at 202 lbs. twelve more to go and im happy... i hate to admit it but i was/am sitting at the kitchen table. i got a ruger 345 last saturday and tried it out after work this afternoon. i was just sitting here cleaning and putting it back together. no theres no munchies within reach either.. g denny .

From : mike simmons

nitpik wrote i live in the mountains where there are often slick snow conditions. my wifes weight of 130 lbs. moving to the back of the van was often enough to make the difference .. not like having four wheel drive but it would get us home. the sand tubes are also handy if you get stuck to use a little of the sand around the wheels to get you moving again. i dont think i can convince my wife to sit on the tailgate. and if i even once suggested the ole lady go sit on the tailgate id be picking my teeth up out of the next county.... no sense of humor at all in her old age.. denny being married to you... thats understandable.... ;^ mike what is with this shit you and ole roy both picking on sweet innocent me at the same time. talk about conspiracies sp denny ya left out a word with yer sweet innocent me bs the word is pudgy or perhaps very pudgy now that t day has past. hell im surprised your not at the table waiting for christmas dinner. innocent my ass.bfg roy .

From : max340

nitpik wrote i live in the mountains where there are often slick snow conditions. my wifes weight of 130 lbs. moving to the back of the van was often enough to make the difference .. not like having four wheel drive but it would get us home. the sand tubes are also handy if you get stuck to use a little of the sand around the wheels to get you moving again. i dont think i can convince my wife to sit on the tailgate. and if i even once suggested the ole lady go sit on the tailgate id be picking my teeth up out of the next county.... no sense of humor at all in her old age.. wtf are you talking about shes gotta have a sense of humor she married you!! vbg roy denny .

From : max340

tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote in jushil jushil@usedcarstar.com wrote in dodge srt-10 this is a really a piece of work. the truck is the fastest truck in the world. it makes the ford lightning look like a slow pickup. with a smooth 500 hp viper v10 rocking its chasis it really is in a league of its own. there is a chevy ss pickup that is alright but come on it doesnt compare to the dodge. if you ever drive one of these rigs you will most defiantely become a believer. the chebbies a pos and theres no lightning for 05 or the forseeable future. seems that the svt is going as well. to bad i would have thought with the new mustang ford would have kept it going. really when is it going http//www.svt.ford.com/svtsleeves.asp fords svt wont have any product for 05 although technically theyll still exist at least for the moment. its anybodys guess as to whats beyond that. i guess with their financial situation they need to put their money where it counts. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : theguy

jushil wrote dodge srt-10 this is a really a piece of work. the truck is the fastest truck in the world. it makes the ford lightning look like a slow pickup. no it doesnt. with a smooth 500 hp viper v10 rocking its chasis it really is in a league of its own. yeah. price league. there is a chevy ss pickup that is alright but come on it doesnt compare to the dodge. if you ever drive one of these rigs you will most defiantely become a believer. yes. a belief that states thinking that youll get any utility at all from this truck makes you a moron. jeff -- --- every time i hear the that old feeling comes back on; were waist deep in the big muddy and the big fool says to push on. - pete seeger 1967 --- .

From : theguy

you found him where at we lost him several weeks ago thats our town mayor tell him to get home now uh well . . .er maybe i better not mention the fat old coot on the cushman riding as cutter. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. damn bud...you are good.. right to the tee!! oh no . . . now i get this mental picture of a middle aged hells angel on a chopper lassoing honey bees hog tying five out of six legs and then branding them with a little tiny branding iron heated with a bic lighter. well that certainly made my morning . . . . vbg -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. on wed 8 dec 2004 174428 -0500 maxpower damnnickname@yahoo.com wrote was that your bee that stung me did it have my brand on it beekeep .

From : mike simmons

on thu 9 dec 2004 131304 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote on my old d150 about 300 pounds made a huge difference but i used snow myself. snows cheaper and ive rarely got stuck. you said that you never got stuck in the snow. i guess that was a lie. i hope youre not supporting t-bones erroneous viewpoint that all extra weight makes for longer stops. i said that depends on conditions budd. please stop twisting what i said to suit your desperate needs. btw your example about the bike rider shifts the existing weight to the rear it doesnt add any there so it is an invalid comparrison. t-bone you would be well advised to avoid threads about which you know nothing. budds comparison of the weight shift of the bike rider was accurate. if you know nothing about physics center of gravity moment of inertia etc. then you would be better off to remain silent. tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt mark twain mike a favorite quote of mine and appropriate in the context you placed it in. more weight to the rear weight added to the bed that is will increase the traction and braking effectiveness by increasing the percentage of the weight that does not shift forward upon braking. care to explain that one. but snow and ice is what causes the most dramatic increase in braking distance if you dont add weight and far more that any distance increase from the weight itself. that depends on the conditions. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. not bad. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : nosey

on thu 09 dec 2004 183143 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote man you should get a friggin hobby. you have finally gone past the point of even being mildly humorous. perhaps it is time for a group wide boycott of your posts. yes it may well be. it just gets old and pathetic. on my old d150 about 300 pounds made a huge difference but i used snow myself. snows cheaper and ive rarely got stuck. you said that you never got stuck in the snow. i guess that was a lie. i hope youre not supporting t-bones erroneous viewpoint that all extra weight makes for longer stops. i said that depends on conditions budd. please stop twisting what i said to suit your desperate needs. btw your example about the bike rider shifts the existing weight to the rear it doesnt add any there so it is an invalid comparrison. more weight to the rear weight added to the bed that is will increase the traction and braking effectiveness by increasing the percentage of the weight that does not shift forward upon braking. care to explain that one. but snow and ice is what causes the most dramatic increase in braking distance if you dont add weight and far more that any distance increase from the weight itself. that depends on the conditions. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. not bad. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

nitpik wrote i live in the mountains where there are often slick snow conditions. my wifes weight of 130 lbs. moving to the back of the van was often enough to make the difference .. not like having four wheel drive but it would get us home. the sand tubes are also handy if you get stuck to use a little of the sand around the wheels to get you moving again. i dont think i can convince my wife to sit on the tailgate. .

From : budd cochran

i second the motion. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. man you should get a friggin hobby. you have finally gone past the point of even being mildly humorous. perhaps it is time for a group wide boycott of your posts. on my old d150 about 300 pounds made a huge difference but i used snow myself. snows cheaper and ive rarely got stuck. you said that you never got stuck in the snow. i guess that was a lie. i hope youre not supporting t-bones erroneous viewpoint that all extra weight makes for longer stops. i said that depends on conditions budd. please stop twisting what i said to suit your desperate needs. btw your example about the bike rider shifts the existing weight to the rear it doesnt add any there so it is an invalid comparrison. more weight to the rear weight added to the bed that is will increase the traction and braking effectiveness by increasing the percentage of the weight that does not shift forward upon braking. care to explain that one. but snow and ice is what causes the most dramatic increase in braking distance if you dont add weight and far more that any distance increase from the weight itself. that depends on the conditions. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. not bad. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

i got pulled over by a cop back when i was 20 on a public parking lot for practicing my snow driving skills. i was doing 180s 360s and so on and never came close to a light pole or parking bumper. he comes around the corner loses it and ends up sliding backwards into a parking bumper. no ticket but im sure the red on his face wasnt from the cold . . . -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. on thu 09 dec 2004 052035 gmt diesel guy kbrennan@wi.rr.com wrote i add about 500 to 1000 pounds of sand in the back of my 2500 4x4. snip try this next good snow fall find an empty parking lot and drive around making the car slide a bit to get a feel for the action. then add the weight and do the same thing you will see a difference in handling and also improve your slick driving abilities. i do this every year to refresh my skills in snow driving. oh come on admit it you do that because its fun... dj .

From : roy

read it again you obsessive nutcase. i said i rarely got stuck i just didnt specify in what type of material or vehicle. just like the first time i mentioned it except i have never been stuck in snow in my old d-150. i have been stuck in sand and mud in several vehicles. you really screwed up this time tom ... but then youre really screwed up arent you -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. on my old d150 about 300 pounds made a huge difference but i used snow myself. snows cheaper and ive rarely got stuck. you said that you never got stuck in the snow. i guess that was a lie. i hope youre not supporting t-bones erroneous viewpoint that all extra weight makes for longer stops. i said that depends on conditions budd. please stop twisting what i said to suit your desperate needs. btw your example about the bike rider shifts the existing weight to the rear it doesnt add any there so it is an invalid comparrison. more weight to the rear weight added to the bed that is will increase the traction and braking effectiveness by increasing the percentage of the weight that does not shift forward upon braking. care to explain that one. but snow and ice is what causes the most dramatic increase in braking distance if you dont add weight and far more that any distance increase from the weight itself. that depends on the conditions. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. not bad. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

tbone wrote you watch way to many old movies. just because i dont agree with your paranoia doesnt mke me wrong or trashing the thread. true but you go beyond disagreement. lol what vacation just too many more important things to do and not much in here worth responding to. true again except you did and for what purpose to argue perhaps just a thought. .

From : miles

jushil jushil@usedcarstar.com wrote in dodge srt-10 this is a really a piece of work. the truck is the fastest truck in the world. it makes the ford lightning look like a slow pickup. with a smooth 500 hp viper v10 rocking its chasis it really is in a league of its own. there is a chevy ss pickup that is alright but come on it doesnt compare to the dodge. if you ever drive one of these rigs you will most defiantely become a believer. the chebbies a pos and theres no lightning for 05 or the forseeable future. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies .

From : nitpik

concur on low freon. second could be belt noise .. from sticky idler etc. i noticed recently that my ac compressor keeps starting for 3 second shuts off for 10 seconds starts for 3 and shuts off for 10. from what ive seen from some groups searching it may be low on r134a. hopefully thats ok. up until just now my truck turns into a deep-freeze when the air is on. now it just blows room temp air. also recently ive noticed a tapping/ticking sound under the hood when idle that seems to go away when the engine is warm 20 min or so. the only real time ive heard of something like this was a leak in the exhaust manifold but im not smelling anything. i had had a problem in the past with a broken bolt and the dodge dealer replaceed the entire exhaust system from manifold to tailpipe do you think the ac clutch could be ticking while disengaged .

From : dj

tbone wrote a bunch more bs heeeesssss baaacccckkkkk....to trash up yet another thread. you watch way to many old movies. just because i dont agree with your paranoia doesnt mke me wrong or trashing the thread. vacation over lol what vacation just too many more important things to do and not much in here worth responding to. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

on thu 09 dec 2004 052035 gmt diesel guy kbrennan@wi.rr.com wrote i add about 500 to 1000 pounds of sand in the back of my 2500 4x4. snip try this next good snow fall find an empty parking lot and drive around making the car slide a bit to get a feel for the action. then add the weight and do the same thing you will see a difference in handling and also improve your slick driving abilities. i do this every year to refresh my skills in snow driving. oh come on admit it you do that because its fun... dj .

From : tbone

it is possible to purchase a us $42k vehicle for us 34k check ebay. thats how i got mine. steve folks i have lurking around for 2 months now and am totally convinced i want to get a ctd! im not new to dcx products and own jeep cherokee and a tj. the jeep is now getting tired and we recently got a cottage and snowmobiles and also own a 25 boat. sooo justification for a diesel is there. wife and kids are onboard. it took me while to digest and accept the $50k invoice canadian 05 2500 stick ctd laramie + few options. i need help in deciding what to do. i work for a supplier to dcx so getting invoice is not a problem. i have been waiting for dcx to announce some deals and/or rebates for 2 months now and nothing - nothing for 05 except 1.8% financing for 36 months. we pay 15% taxes here in ontario and thats a killer. so i check for 04s since dcx will eat one tax and give $500 .our friendly dealer found 2 for me 5000km away - in bc!! and he will sell to me at invoice. i asked for a better deal since in 3 weeks it will be a year old!! they would not do it!! so the only difference between a 05 and 04 is savings on 1 tax - 4k. my options are 1. order 05 now and hope some rebates will be there by delivery time feb 05. has dcx in the past offered rebates on model year trucks early in the year anyone know. 2. buy the 04 and save invoice - 4k. i would think they would offer some credit for depreciation!! what would you do anyone from canada would like to share the price on their recent purchase thanks guys. i have not even considered gm or fords - stuck to this forum everyday and am convinced dodge is the way to go - besides they look awesome!! .

From : budd cochran

oh no . . . now i get this mental picture of a middle aged hells angel on a chopper lassoing honey bees hog tying five out of six legs and then branding them with a little tiny branding iron heated with a bic lighter. well that certainly made my morning . . . . vbg -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. on wed 8 dec 2004 174428 -0500 maxpower damnnickname@yahoo.com wrote was that your bee that stung me did it have my brand on it beekeep .

From : mike simmons

the problem is if you have any red dye fuel in your tank any tank while on a public road. the only ones that get away with it are farm vehicles that are not registered for road use and only travel on roads when going from field to field you know the ones that you get stuck behind and cuss at when trying to make time on a country road. ken you the guy that voted me #1 when you went around me last fall denny nah he was just giving you the high-five er one for the bunny suit! ;^ mike .

From : trey

sigh here we go again..... ok so this is old stuff for you. i am new here. phyloe sorry phyloe i was just reacting to a loooong recent thread on that very same subject no offense to you. in this thread a particularly obstinate poster refused to accept the fact and the physics that yes indeed weight over the driving wheels does help. if you scroll down through the threads i think you will find it... it is one of the longer ones sorry if i offended you. mike .

From : diesel guy

the problem is if you have any red dye fuel in your tank any tank while on a public road. the only ones that get away with it are farm vehicles that are not registered for road use and only travel on roads when going from field to field you know the ones that you get stuck behind and cuss at when trying to make time on a country road. ken you the guy that voted me #1 when you went around me last fall denny i wouldnt do that i may get a bit aggravated but i know what it is like to be in that seat. ken b. .

From : jerry

on wed 08 dec 2004 223234 -0500 nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote on wed 08 dec 2004 153019 gmt mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote on wed 8 dec 2004 063442 -0500 bks wrote i have a 2001 dodge dakota quad 4x4 with 16 tires the original rims. a dope at a tire shop said i couldnt go down to 15 rims for the winter due to all the electronics in 4x4. first dodge oem is either 15 or 16 inch tires---you cant tell me they change the electronics or tranny when they sell trucks with the original larger or smaller tires. is he full of it i would love to get smaller tires for winter with new steel rims---cheaper and better. and any recommendations on snow tires for massachusetts would be recommended. have bridgestone atv revos and they suck in the snow. thanks. im sure that changing rim size will at least mess up the reading of your speed sensor which effects speedometer odometer and abs.. we went from a 255-16 to a 265-16 on our 99 ram and the speedo is off 4%.. changing rim size will have no effect on the speedo - period. changing tire rolling diameter will. with the snow you get in mass. a tall narrow tire will give you more control than a low wide tire. wet snow and slop are the order of the day and you need pressure to get traction and you want as little frontal area pushing the slop as you can get away with. add to that the requirement to clear the tread and what you want is a fairly agressive and blocky tread with lots of tiny tread sipes to grab the wet hardpack and ice under the loose layer on top. if you are exclusively driving in deep undisturbed firm but not packed snow a wider tire can help - but that is so low a percentage of your driving to make it almost irrelevant. i personally like a high profile blizzak or graspic. with 78 series graspics on my vehicles i can start go turn and stop effectively in the worst central ontario can dish out - i cant imagine the original poster going from 16 to 15 rims and ending up with the same tire diameter... to tell the truth it is easy. our 99 durango came with 30 r15s an option for that year. my ram had 245/75r16s and the two were just about the same height. of course the 16ers had less side wall and can carry more weight but as far as diameter they were close enough to call it even. ken b. .

From : tom lawrence

on wed 08 dec 2004 213352 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote phyloe wrote i found the remote door lock mechanism in my truck. there is a red panic button. what is that for i did not get the owners manual. phyloe it sets off the trucks alarm. if you have no alarm it will still cause the horn to honk repeatedly. damnit miles.. i was going to tell them it was a prozac dispenser! rofl .

From : budd cochran

on wed 08 dec 2004 153019 gmt mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote on wed 8 dec 2004 063442 -0500 bks wrote i have a 2001 dodge dakota quad 4x4 with 16 tires the original rims. a dope at a tire shop said i couldnt go down to 15 rims for the winter due to all the electronics in 4x4. first dodge oem is either 15 or 16 inch tires---you cant tell me they change the electronics or tranny when they sell trucks with the original larger or smaller tires. is he full of it i would love to get smaller tires for winter with new steel rims---cheaper and better. and any recommendations on snow tires for massachusetts would be recommended. have bridgestone atv revos and they suck in the snow. thanks. im sure that changing rim size will at least mess up the reading of your speed sensor which effects speedometer odometer and abs.. we went from a 255-16 to a 265-16 on our 99 ram and the speedo is off 4%.. changing rim size will have no effect on the speedo - period. changing tire rolling diameter will. with the snow you get in mass. a tall narrow tire will give you more control than a low wide tire. wet snow and slop are the order of the day and you need pressure to get traction and you want as little frontal area pushing the slop as you can get away with. add to that the requirement to clear the tread and what you want is a fairly agressive and blocky tread with lots of tiny tread sipes to grab the wet hardpack and ice under the loose layer on top. if you are exclusively driving in deep undisturbed firm but not packed snow a wider tire can help - but that is so low a percentage of your driving to make it almost irrelevant. i personally like a high profile blizzak or graspic. with 78 series graspics on my vehicles i can start go turn and stop effectively in the worst central ontario can dish out - .

From : miles

on wed 08 dec 2004 173616 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote would it help any to get a shoe size reduction on your right foot bg no but it would probably help to put v-6s in both of em.. yuk .

From : phyloe

phyloe wrote i found the remote door lock mechanism in my truck. there is a red panic button. what is that for i did not get the owners manual. phyloe it sets off the trucks alarm. if you have no alarm it will still cause the horn to honk repeatedly. .

From : mike simmons

well i am a little farther away from the area than you moab ut and we only have a weekly paper that usually gets everything but politically acceptable stories wrong. the racial slur could also have been to deflect the investigation but no one will know till forensics gets done. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. well if you look at the local paper and i myself live 8 miles from the area you will see that all the people that were supposed to move in this month were black and mexicans these houses were 4 to 5 hundred thousand dollar houses im sure that the end result will be a white carcasion male living in the neighborhood having something to do with it i cant see why enviormentalists that was fighting to save a swamp land set all these on fire to risk the damage of what they were fighting for it makes no sense now today i hear that there was one house that was being built had been spray painted with racial things how do you figure that environmentalists were up in arms over the buildings already. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. that would put you in laplata/whiteplains area and i would be willing to take a bet that is not an enviromental thing it will be found as a racial act of crime some of you may have seen on the national about the 41 arsons in southern maryland. i live about 8 miles from the site. theyre looking for a van! not a white one thank god. there sure are some crazy people out there. beekeep .

From : budd cochran

on fri 10 dec 2004 010712 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote denny wrote i hate to admit it but i was/am sitting at the kitchen table. i got a ruger 345 last saturday and tried it out after work this afternoon. i was just sitting here cleaning and putting it back together. have you shot it yet 45 auto weighing only 29 ounces should be a hand full to hang onto. guess it cant be any worse than the p-11 i have at 14 ounces. jerry i ran 16 rds thru it and it really isnt bad id compare it to my p95 9mm. it sure is a whole lot less than the 500. i didnt have any problems hitting a 9 paper plate at 17 steps. i wasnt trying to shoot fast but i wasnt aiming every shot either. it has a nice feel to it. im curious to how a light on the rail will effect the recoil if itll keep the muzzle down much. denny i like to shoot at old bowling pins. my new toy is a glock g37. very fun. the bowling pins pretty much just blow up when i hit them with that. .

From : denny

now you know thats not right roy . . i got a third you got a third and dennys got a turd . . er third. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. jim prove we are in error. but i should warn you that youre going up against close to a century of combined driving experience. yup and that just budds years of experience.bfg roy .

From : theguy

on fri 10 dec 2004 233220 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote its the new glock. it is a .45 but shoots a round called the .45 gap glock automatic pistol. the round is a little shorter than the normal .45 auto but has the same ballistics or better using a higher grade of powder. glock designed the round so that the grip could be made smaller. it is the same size grip as a glock .40 now so smaller hands can get a good grip on it. the gap round is made now by most manufacturers and most comapnies are coming out with a .45 gap gun. very nice gun the grip is more comfortable but you still get the bang of the .45. love the gun. all i use anymore are glocks mostly .40 but this .45 gap is a great gun. i do have a s&w but it is a 9mm which is just too light for me but its a good practice gun for my sons. the bowling pins are fun. they make a good target at 50 yards and you get a real return when you hit one. ive read about the .45 gap in some of the shooting mags but i havent had the chance to shoot one yet. it does sound like a nice round. i like my 9mm just for the fact that i can go out and shoot for a couple of hours and not spend a fortune doing it. i cant say that about the .50 though. even reloads are a little short of a buck a shot but the satisfaction index is off the scale... denny .

From : budd cochran

hello i have a 94 ram with the 35 gal tank and i just discovered a fuel leak in the line that is between the tank and the frame i took it to the dealer and got a nice shock $650.00 to replace the lines and the filler neck with 4 hr. labor i have tried the local parts stores for some high pressure rubber fuel line 3/16 is whats stamped on the hose from the fuel pump. i would like to just splice and run some new but the parts stores do not list this size. any ideas thanks it is not that big a deal to drop the tank yourself. for some reason a 5/16 line doesnt sound right but in any event napa carries the fuel line that you need. roy .

From : j a m

i would not recommend that at all hello i have a 94 ram with the 35 gal tank and i just discovered a fuel leak in the line that is between the tank and the frame i took it to the dealer and got a nice shock $650.00 to replace the lines and the filler neck with 4 hr. labor i have tried the local parts stores for some high pressure rubber fuel line 3/16 is whats stamped on the hose from the fuel pump. i would like to just splice and run some new but the parts stores do not list this size. any ideas thanks .

From : theguy

hmmm . . .a gal that needs to go to a group for a penpal . . . . yep gotta be a rea-a-a-l winner . . in a dog show. -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. on 10 dec 2004 054910 gmt jroach7808@aol.com jroach7808 wrote penpal for what be specific. she couldnt spell paypal .

From : diesel guy

on thu 09 dec 2004 192530 -0600 ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com writes line-x is a harder smoother surface. its a bit more durable. the rhino is a softer more rubbery surface that helps keep cargo from shifting around. i have a rhino and like it but its showing its age. i have a few minor damaged spots from abuse. the rhino has a lifetime warranty but i havent bothered to get it fixed yet. im satisfied with its performance but a line-x would have probably served my purposes better. in spite of claims to the contrary my line-x liner hasnt exactly been 100% impervious to scrapes and gouges but overall its held up pretty well. im pleased and no major gripes. line-x claims a lifetime warranty and free fixes but just try and avail yourself of those free fixes and youll likely find as i did that the applicators make it pretty inconvenient for you to get it fixed. my own dealer told me they only do warranty work during the business day 8-5 on tuesdays and only then by special appointment. so to get it fixed i have to take a day off from work or waste a vacation day. phuque that. apparently line-x company expects the applicator to stand good the installation and so doesnt get reimbursed for his warranty labor and of course the amount of material needed to fix a gouge or two is negligible. still im very satisfied with my line-x liner and would go with a line-x again. its your dealer. i had a slit in mine on the tailgate. drove it in and as soon as he finished spraying the truck in the bay he came out and looked at mine and said no problem. went back in and got a tube of superglue and glued the stuff back down. after about a month of dragging stuff over the tailgate i cant even see the split anymore. i was a bit surprised at the method of repair though ;- with mine he just took some of the goo that was over spray from the job they just finished and worked it into the slit. worked fine and still looks good. line-x weathers better but rhino grips better and deadens sound a little better but not enough to make a fuss over. i would stick with rhino since that is what i have always used but line-x is a good product. ken b .

From : budd cochran

ford is a company that is yet to make a decent car. maybe the orginal mustangs are an exception. every ford i have driven has had serious problems and the dealership garage costs a fortune to buy expensive ford parts. i stay away from fords. there new lineup is something that probably wont make their financial situation any better. as they build cars that have very popular competitorsfreestyle there company is not doing very well. the five hundred is not as good as the chrysler 300 through a motor trend test. the mustang wont sell as well as the orginal mustang as they anticipated. -justin .

From : denny

perhaps it is time for a group wide boycott of your posts. agreed. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : roy

the big deal is not dropping the tank the big deal is the fact that it is a one piece steel line that runs from the back to the injectors alot is involved to replace it you have to remove things to route the line properly you should be able to still get this line thru your local dealer i would go that route glenn beasley chrysler tech hello i have a 94 ram with the 35 gal tank and i just discovered a fuel leak in the line that is between the tank and the frame i took it to the dealer and got a nice shock $650.00 to replace the lines and the filler neck with 4 hr. labor i have tried the local parts stores for some high pressure rubber fuel line 3/16 is whats stamped on the hose from the fuel pump. i would like to just splice and run some new but the parts stores do not list this size. any ideas thanks it is not that big a deal to drop the tank yourself. for some reason a 5/16 line doesnt sound right but in any event napa carries the fuel line that you need. roy .

From : stephen harding

i can go the ebay route - i do have a few questions though 1. what about duties and taxes to bring the vehicle from from us to canada 2. can the vehicle be registered in canada 3. will daimler chrysler honour the warranty would love to hear from folks who have imported us-can or us dealers who have sold to canadian. sam .

From : budd cochran

i just read that tsb and it only applies to vehicles sold outside canada and the united states. i am from canada. will it still work will my dealer have access to it tsb 18-037-04 this tsb applies to 2004.5 thru 2005 ctd rams. it increases fuel economy reduces white smoke when cold and improves the accuracy of the console computer. this change also loads the code for high idle but it takes another action by the dealer to enable it. the change applies to cummins engines serial number 57130285 thru 57246361 and a date of manufacture 12/10/03 thru 8/17/2004. steve is any one aware of a high speed fix other than the one already installed that can be controlled by the cruise control buttons i have checked out tsb 18-004-04 and find that my engine is too new and does not apply. is there a more recent one out that i am unable to find -- .

From : james goforth

like i said james you would have to counterbalance a considerable portion 20-30% or more of the weight on the front axle to give a noticeable change . . on dry pavement. on snow and ice less weight would be needed to make a notable change. i used to have a couple big friends that would stand on a beetles back bumper and make the front light enough to pick up with one hand. bg -- budd whats the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver one goes whack darn and the other goes darn whack. i thought about that it could reduce the weight on the front wheels but it seems with a 3.9/auto--which weighs a fair amount--that would be probably noticeable but id think the effect on the steering would be nil to none. plus im talking only 2 maybe 3 sandbags max. but one way to find out i guess. maybe ill conduct an experiment and then post it to start ww3. on second thought... .

From : theguy

chastity redmon wrote hey! does anyone know if you can buy replacement lids for the two storage spaces in the back of my 02 durango without going to the junk yard in hopes of finding one there or making them myself those are really your only choices for something like that. also do all 02 durangos suppose to have third row seating because mine doesnt and every web site i been to like allpar.com says they do well you have one that doesnt so that pretty much answers the question. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1983 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : denny

now you know thats not right roy . . i got a third you got a third and dennys got a turd . . er third. -- budd pellets budd dennys got pellets. -- fmb only one b in fmb hmmmm.. another smartass that i can add to my list....... g denny hey rabbit!! you folks have any cold weather or snow supposed to get cold here by tue. roy .

From : denny

you will be notified by mail anyone have info on what the stipulations are for re embursment of ball joint repair had mine done off warranty. the recall is for ball joints. thanks in advance happy holidays .