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From : steve k

Q: really for what type of vehicle either way that is once every 2 to 3 years. everything from a d100 to a d600 according to the fsm. with the advances in materials and lubrication it most certianly is especially when you pretty much have to take the trans apart remove the pan to do it. lol you clearly have never had a trans apart. pan bolts and three screws and you call it pretty much apart. is your head up your ass temper temper maxi i wouldnt want you to blow a gasket - the fact is that to perform that service you still need to open the transmisssion which indicates that in its initial design this level of service was not expected. the trans is only as good as its weakest point. we had this discussion with the dc 9 1/4 rears and you were wrong there too. while the design of the rear was unchanged they decided to save a little money by using second rate bearings and that turned the rear into a pos as well especially for those who had to cough up the big bucks to repair it. unfortunately the weakest point on these transmissions is the idiot behind the wheel 90% of the time. wrong again. the trans now comes with a cooler for towing. then why are so many people installing aftermarket coolers because they arent smart enough to buy the towing package or they buy a used truck that doesnt have it. well now you are saying that you need to purchase a $600 option just to get what the damn thing needs in the first place lol! sounds cheaper to go with the aftermarket and get better stuff for less. is that the same as no more parts inside of the case at all and if not wtf is your point the point is that nothing is different even though the internal parts run much hotter than the non-od units of the past. how about a deeper pan and a drain plug lol it has a deeper pan!! and they dont run much hotter maybe 20 degrees if used properly. always conditions on your answers. third its not difficult to service certainly no more so than its predecessor which wasnt difficult either. sure it is. much harder than changing the oil and the frequency is damn near the same amount anymore especially with the new oils comming out. sure it is you clearly dont know damn thing. thats right you drive a manual shift. so you are basing your argument on the longer engine oil intervals wtf youve got nothing shut up. temper temper maxi. you just hate it when im right. and for each change you have to remove 4000 bolts to drop the pan and it 4000 wow you take the cab off to change the fluid it was sarcasm maxi unless of course your cab is actually held on by over 3900 bolts. doesnt have a drain none of them do. your point is moot. really perhaps you should look at the allison 1000. it also has an external filter making these changes easier than an oil change. i guess that allison and gm were thinking ahead when they designed this unit. remove and replace the filter three screws wow thats hard. not hard but messy and unnecessary when the filter could be converted to an external spin on type and again you still have to remove the pan to get to those 3 screws. while it continues to drip fluid on you im not as dumb as you are i guess since you apparently stand under the trans and on top of the drain pan. please explain how you remove the filter without it dripping fluid on your arms. i cant wait to here this magic. hope that the new gasket that comes with the kit is not damaged or folded so that it will leak for sure use a good sealer and there are no worries. yea and too much of that good sealer and you screw up the trans and it also makes the pan that much harder to remove the next time. reinstall the 4000 bolts make sure the cab is lined up square....... that hold the pan on making sure not to overtighten any of them or strip any of them wow thats tough a little restraint and attention to detail something you should use with anything mechanical. it just adds time and risk to the procedure which further demonstrates that this level of service was never intended with the design of this trans. do you remove the oil pan at each oil change or pull the water pump everytime you change the anti-freeze and then pour the new fluid through the dipstick tube while praying that it doesnt piss half of it onto the ground. this neat invention known as a funnel eliminates the prayer part of it not to mention making it very easy. i put 10 quarts in a 4l60e yesterday using a funnel. it took me 5 minutes because we test drove it to get it warm to be sure the fluid level was accurate on the dipstick. actually i was referring it pissing out from a bad seal on the pan gasket. now while this was acceptable when the change frequency was never or once in the life time of the vehicle 1 or more times a year is unacceptable. by whose standards it takes longer to was

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From : xmirage2kx

tbone wrote lol oh bullshit miles you just like to argue and at times make an ass out of yourself. there are times to cut costs and times not to and if you are going to offer a towing package then it should be complete or dont bother doing it at all. lol good think you arent in marketing. you just failed miserably with your all too well known absurd logic. packages are designed to appeal to the most number of people at the price they are willing to pay. if there was money to be made theyd do it. sorry tbone the only reason they dont is because the manufactures couldnt recoup the costs of doing so. if it would you can bet the tow package would be just as you describe. .

From : thesnoman

datadontuse wrote in the archives for this group and other places i have be able to track down that i can have a p75/245 r16 stock tires p75/265 r16 or p75/285 r16 on my stock rims. i have found that it will alter both the shift points of my manual transmission and alter the accuracy of my speedometer. the larger tire will also give me less torque from a dead stop and will give me slightly better mileage. i have a dodge ram 1500 5.2l 318 with a 5 speed manual. i can easily smoke the tires so having less torque is not a issue either. the problem that i am trying to solve is poor proformance on wet roads. i live in las vegas nv and when it rains the baked in oil and junk on the road give me very poor traction both in starting and stoping. of the 3 sizes which will have the least impact on dry 90% of my driving time but increase the the grip on the wet roads i need new tires anyway and i am stuck on what to get. i know that the brand/tread design/type of tire along with 300lbs of weight in the back will help the traction issue probaly more then the size of the tires. the only down side i can find to wider tires is more a tendancy to hydroplane but i can control that with cautious driving in flooded areas and more expensive for the larger sizes. when i walk into a tire tire store what should i get size wise any suggesions are greatly appreicated thanks! paul 2001 dodge ram 5.2 2x4 slt laramine with 5 speed manual. i am gonna keep it for a long time unless gas goes over $10.00 per gal. l v d a t a n o s p a m a t c o x d o t n e t remove no spam and make it look normal to reply you want a tire that has a tread that is fairly smooth in design but the has lots of small blocks and sipes to get the water away from surface. also in summer when it is hot it bakes the oil to the surface of the road and when it first rains it can be realy greasy. big tires on a tall axle ratio does not help traction either because there is more axle and chassis wind up when you apply power and more tendancy to lift the right wheel from drive shaft torque this is why you can spin them easily at time even when dry and reduce traction. believe it or not deeper axle gears would improve traction and with od there will be no lose of mpg and if you stay with 85 series tires they have lower rolling resistance and will help mpg too. -- ----------------- www.thesnoman.com .

From : tbone

now normally i would leave well enough alone and stay out of these arguements....but here i go against better judgement. funny that is not the thought comming from the trans experts in here. according to them you always need it. i havent seen anyone state that you always need em. then you havent been here very long or are not following the threads. just about every time someone worries about longevity of their automatic transmission the first words that usually appear in here is to add a cooler followed by daily fluid flushes sarcasm here. it says so for extreme duty applications which you all seem to think that you fit into. the average truck owner is nowhere near a heavy duty schedule b type of use. ok out of a general motors owners manual for a 96 s series severe service/short trip definitions most trips are less than 5 to 10 miles especially important in sub freezing cond are most of your trips highest portion of mileage of this type and in sub freezing weather most trips include extensive idling defined further as frequent stop and go no extensive idling and stop and go are different things all together and again the key word is most. iow do you drive a taxi you operate your vehicle in dusty conditions or off road this means most or all of the time not a few times a year and do you you tow a trailer as in most or all of the time not a few times per year. if the vehicle is used in an emergency service taxi or commercial application iow relate this condition to the conditions above and you will see what severe duty actually means. hmmm off the bat even for my old s15 i see 3 that apply and im betting the vast majority could find atleast one of those. really which ones and be realistic about it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : the reverend natural light

that to perform that service you still need to open the transmisssion which indicates that in its initial design this level of service was not expected. and again the exact same thing can be said for the dana 44 60 70 80 chrysler 9.25 aam 9.25 10.5 11.5. are you disassembling the axle when you change the fluid no - youre removing a cover. well now you are saying that you need to purchase a $600 option just to get what the damn thing needs in the first place lol! if you dont tow you dont need it. if you tow you need it. seems pretty straight-forward to me. and included in that cost is the aux. cooler the receiver wiring harnesses bigger battery etc. oh and by the way - that trailer tow option its a $350 option - not $600. again you make rediculous exaggerations to try and bolster a failed argument. sounds cheaper to go with the aftermarket and get better stuff for less. sure - you gonna get all that and get it installed and oh yeah warrantied for less than $350 go for it... really perhaps you should look at the allison 1000. that would be the one that wants 12000mile fluid changes right please explain how you remove the filter without it dripping fluid on your arms. i cant wait to here this magic. well for me - i remove the screws holding the filter in place. i then grab the filter by the one end pulling it down and away. the fluid drains into the catch pan and i dont get any on me. it just adds time and risk to the procedure which further demonstrates that this level of service was never intended with the design of this trans. its amazing how you can deduce that from the construction of the unit - especially when it clearly states in the service manual to change the fluid and filter at regular intervals. i keep going back to this but based on your twisted logic the same can be said for the axles as well. clearly they were never designed for this level of service. you have to remove the same amount of fasteners to change their fluid. and... according to dc you have to do it twice as often as the transmission fluid yep - they now spec. out 15000 mile fluid changes on front and rear diffs. so the only difference between doing a transmission fluid change and a differential fluid change is the three i could swear its now two screws torx screws holding the filter in place. thats it tom.... same gasket issues as the aams now have a reusable gasket as well same number of fasteners and in the case of the 11.5 rear about the same amount of fluid 4qts. - though ill argue that its easier dumping in a gallon of atf through the dipstick with a funnel than it is getting those bottles of gear oil up and into the diff fill plug hole. so - why is it acceptable or is it even acceptable in your eyes maybe all axles out there are crap in your esteemed estimation as well for a differential to require a cover pan removal but not a transmission .

From : nosey

max dodge wrote because they arent smart enough to buy the towing package or they buy a used truck that doesnt have it. or the factory cooler is insufficient. i have the factory cooler on my 2001 ram qc 1500. i also put a deep mag-hytech pan on the tranny and a temp guage. it runs hot. like i said resorting to the aftermarket. when pulling my trailer up grades in the summer it will climb to 240+. i have no idea why as several techs have said the factory cooler should be sufficient. one thing that bothers me is the routing is through the radiator. that would seem to prevent the tranny fluid from ever cooling below the water temp which is 200+. this is the temp of the water entering the radiator not the temp leaving it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .