Trans loseing its mind.....

From : billy

Q: im sorry we keep forgetting that if t-bone says it cant happen then it cant happen. yup and helium has no weight. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. im sorry we keep forgetting that if t-bone says it cant happen then it cant happen. what were we thinking . . . we must remember that tom is the worlds greatest living mechanic and knows all sees all and it cant happen unless he wills it. like how you fixed your ford tom btw what year ford was that -- budd cochran warning!!! poster still believes that intelligence logic common sense courtesy and religious beliefs are still important in our society and might include them in his posts. do you disagree that an improprerly bled system is working improperly do you have proof that an improperly bled system cannot apply more pressure to a in this case static to bearing do you have proof that it can as you both know and are counting on it is impossible to prove a negative but since you seem to be now making the claim that it can happen a positive how about backing it up. both budd and i have seen cases where a hydraulic clutch system has applied the to bearing due to an improperly bled system. no you didnt. you saw a system that had other problems causing the to bearing to be applied due to expansion of the air in the system. ive seen cases where the master cylinder pushed air into the system the slave cylinder sucked air int othe system and where they both leaked. so what who said that could not happen and what does it have to do with air alone causing the to bearing to be applied you deny that these systems undergo reality based events by claiming what weve seen cant possibly happen. that is in no way what i said spinmaster. i said that air in the system alone could not cause the to to be applied. you made the claim that its impossible back it up. simple physics maxi such as equal and opposit reactions. the fluid or air in the system cannot apply pressure to slave unless it can apply and maintain equal pressure to the master and in an open system it cant. weve both merely suggested that odd things can happen despite what the sytem design may allow or safeguard against. could you possibly backspin any faster i dont have proof of many things that ive seen because i didnt sit there and say a group of jackasses will ask me about this in the future i better take pics put arrows and circles on them document it have it notorized and hermetically seal it so itll be fresh when i pull it out of the file cabinet. oh lol i see the people that dont agree with you are just a group of jackasses. what vehicles did you see this happen to and how did you fix them do you know every possible situation problem result solution to a hydraulic system resorting to the law of infinite possibilities now are we i must say max you do make me laugh. resortign to it hell nature does it all the time as do mechanical things. ive seen things happen that i cannot figure out why a certain problem caused it. i just know they are broken so i fix it and the odd event goes away. if you dont know what caused it then how exactly did you fix it sadly you seem to not have anywhere near the experience that a bunch of us do so you dont understand how strange some problems are and why those problems cause really odd thi

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From : john kunkel

wrong its mass and in a gravity well such as a planet surface a mass has weight is twice that roughly of hydrogen. -- budd cochran warning!!! poster still believes that intelligence logic common sense courtesy and religious beliefs are still important in our society and might include them in his posts. do a google serch on helieum has no weight and youll see....big long discussion was really quite good chris lol when did helium go on a diet -- budd cochran im sorry we keep forgetting that if t-bone says it cant happen then it cant happen. yup and helium has no weight. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. im sorry we keep forgetting that if t-bone says it cant happen then it cant happen. what were we thinking . . . we must remember that tom is the worlds greatest living mechanic and knows all sees all and it cant happen unless he wills it. like how you fixed your ford tom btw what year ford was that -- budd cochran warning!!! poster still believes that intelligence logic common sense courtesy and religious beliefs are still important in our society and might include them in his posts. do you disagree that an improprerly bled system is working improperly do you have proof that an improperly bled system cannot apply more pressure to a in this case static to bearing do you have proof that it can as you both know and are counting on it is impossible to prove a negative but since you seem to be now making the claim that it can happen a positive how about backing it up. both budd and i have seen cases where a hydraulic clutch system has applied the to bearing due to an improperly bled system. no you didnt. you saw a system that had other problems causing the to bearing to be applied due to expansion of the air in the system. ive seen cases where the master cylinder pushed air into the system the slave cylinder sucked air int othe system and where they both leaked. so what who said that could not happen and what does it have to do with air alone causing the to bearing to be applied you deny that these systems undergo reality based events by claiming what weve seen cant possibly happen. that is in no way what i said spinmaster. i said that air in the system alone could not cause the to to be applied. you made the claim that its impossible back it up. simple physics maxi such as equal and opposit reactions. the fluid or air in the system cannot apply pressure to slave unless it can apply and maintain equal pressure to the master and in an open system it cant. weve both merely suggested that odd things can happen despite what the sytem design may allow or safeguard against. could you possibly backspin any faster i dont have proof of many things that ive seen because i didnt sit there and say a group of jackasses will ask me about this in the future i better take pics put arrows and circles on them document it have it notorized and hermetically seal it so itll be fresh when i pull it out of the file cabinet. oh lol i see the people that dont agree with you are just a group of jackasses. what vehicles did you see this happen to and how did you fix them do you know every possible situation problem result solution to a hydraulic system resorting to the law of infinite possibilities now are we i must say max you do make me laugh. resortign to it hell nature does it all the time as do mechanical things. ive seen things happen that i cannot figure out why a certain problem caused it. i just know they are broken so i fix it and the odd event goes away. if you dont know what caused it then how exactly did you fix it sadly you seem to not have anywhere near the experience that a bunch of us do so you dont understand how strange some problems are and why those problems cause really odd things to happen. thats sad because you liek to come off like you know all the possible problems symptoms or solutions to any given situation. and like most humans there is no way you could you just dont want to admit it. get real max the only one here afraid to admit to error or not knowing between us is you. i never claimed to know everything but in this case i do know that air in the system cannot in itself apply pressure to the to bearing. if there are other problems then it could be a contributing factor to the to being applied but that is it. in this case where you think you know all there is to know about hydraulic systems on vehicles i know for sure youve never seen or tried to bleed a set of kelsey-hayes four piston calipers on an a-body mopar. if you had youd know that trapped air sometimes never finds its way out. and yes there is a reason for it. then i guess that these cal

From : tbone

thank you i do my best - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving do a google serch on helieum has no weight and youll see....big long discussion was really quite good chris lol when did helium go on a diet -- budd cochran im sorry we keep forgetting that if t-bone says it cant happen then it cant happen. yup and helium has no weight. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. im sorry we keep forgetting that if t-bone says it cant happen then it cant happen. what were we thinking . . . we must remember that tom is the worlds greatest living mechanic and knows all sees all and it cant happen unless he wills it. like how you fixed your ford tom btw what year ford was that -- budd cochran warning!!! poster still believes that intelligence logic common sense courtesy and religious beliefs are still important in our society and might include them in his posts. do you disagree that an improprerly bled system is working improperly do you have proof that an improperly bled system cannot apply more pressure to a in this case static to bearing do you have proof that it can as you both know and are counting on it is impossible to prove a negative but since you seem to be now making the claim that it can happen a positive how about backing it up. both budd and i have seen cases where a hydraulic clutch system has applied the to bearing due to an improperly bled system. no you didnt. you saw a system that had other problems causing the to bearing to be applied due to expansion of the air in the system. ive seen cases where the master cylinder pushed air into the system the slave cylinder sucked air int othe system and where they both leaked. so what who said that could not happen and what does it have to do with air alone causing the to bearing to be applied you deny that these systems undergo reality based events by claiming what weve seen cant possibly happen. that is in no way what i said spinmaster. i said that air in the system alone could not cause the to to be applied. you made the claim that its impossible back it up. simple physics maxi such as equal and opposit reactions. the fluid or air in the system cannot apply pressure to slave unless it can apply and maintain equal pressure to the master and in an open system it cant. weve both merely suggested that odd things can happen despite what the sytem design may allow or safeguard against. could you possibly backspin any faster i dont have proof of many things that ive seen because i didnt sit there and say a group of jackasses will ask me about this in the future i better take pics put arrows and circles on them document it have it notorized and hermetically seal it so itll be fresh when i pull it out of the file cabinet. oh lol i see the people that dont agree with you are just a group of jackasses. what vehicles did you see this happen to and how did you fix them do you know every possible situation problem result solution to a hydraulic system resorting to the law of infinite possibilities now are we i must say max you do make me laugh. resortign to it hell nature does it all the time as do mechanical things. ive seen things happen that i cannot figure out why a certain problem caused it. i just know they are broken so i fix it and the odd event goes away. if you dont know what caused it then how exactly did you fix it sadly you seem to not have anywhere near the experience that a bunch of us do so you dont understand how strange some problems are and why those problems cause really odd things to happen. thats sad because you liek to come off like you know all the possible problems symptoms or solutions to any given situation. and like most humans there is no way you could you just dont want to admit it. get real max the only one here afraid to admit to error or not knowing between us is you. i never claimed to know everything but in this case i do know that air in the system cannot in itself apply pressure to the to bearing. if there are other problems then it could be a contributing factor to the to being applied but that is it. in this case where you think you know all there is to know about hydraulic systems on vehicles i know for sure youve never seen or tried to bleed a set of kelsey-hayes four piston calipers on an a-body mopar. if you had youd know that trapped air sometimes never finds its way out. and yes there is a reason for it. then i guess that these calipers could never be used on an a-body mopar becuae according to you and budd you would not get very far before that trapped air would expand due to the heat and lock the calipers lol. but hey feel free to think that there

From : billy

it is not the same system budd and saying that it is just makes you look foolish. if what you say is true then the only way that you could compress a brake caliper piston back into its bore would be to open up the brake bleeder and we both know that you do not have to do that it may be a good idea but not a requirement. nobody else in the group agrees with you here on this point including max so that alone should tell you something. the principles of operation are the same tom and in basic design they are the same.. did you know that some hd clutch systems use a 2 pound residual valve like a disk brake to reduce the possibility of air / water contamination it uses a slightly heavier return spring to compensate for the pressure. and if the pressure exceeds this extra 2 pounds this system will still vent it off to the reservoir just like the ones without it so what is your point the same as before that the system is not a perfect system its reality. its made by man not god. lol you are kidding right we are not talking cutting edge stuff here and it doesnt have to be perfect to work properly. now whos backpedaling not long ago you werent allowing for variances every system was exactly the same. and you formulated this conclusion how btw you never had a master cylinder piston that couldnt retract properly have you like i reminded john the system is already screwed up. it is not a perfect text book scenario tom. first of all budd you dont know what in the system is screwed up. and neither do you. the op didnt say. i never claimed to know but i do know that the to bearing did not fail due to the design of the system as he suggested. agreed. there was a flaw somewhere between the pedal pad and the flywheel. exactly and air in the system is not it at least not it alone. at best it could be a contributing factor and there was no claim by the op that it was there at all. it could be and probably is just a bad bearing and nothing more it happens. yep. had a freshly rebuilt alternator freeze up in the parking lot at the parts store right after i had exchanged it for my defective one. btdt. it could also be operator error or just excessive usage as we discussed. maybe there is something else wrong with the system and if so then the air would again not be the cause of the problem it would be the defective component and the problem would exist whether there was air in it or not. wrong tom. if the system is defective air could be the problem since air in the system is a problem if it gets into the system. if the system was defective in a way that forced it into a fully closed mode the problem would still happen even if there were no air in the system so the air itself is not the problem only a contributing factor. which expands more when heated equal amounts air or brake fluid and which is more compressable as for foolish appearances tom that would be anyone that doubts the experiences of a older more experienced person and discards them out-of-hand for the simple reason that person is older grayer more experienced the answer isnt found in some text book disagrees with some popular answercorrect or not or . . . . pick as many as you want. just because you are older does not mean that you know more and to think so is foolish. well tom being younger sure hasnt stopped you from thinking im less intelligent trained experienced skillful ad nauseum than you in the past. i am not all that much younger than you are budd and in some things i do know more than you but i never claimed to more about everything because that simply isnt true. if you think that you really know more than i do about everything then you are just being both ignorant and arrogant. and what is your attitude saying about you this comment of yours is very arrogant in itself in that you presume to dress another person down. it was not a comment budd it was more of a question. let me rephrase it for you do you really think that you know more about everything or even everything mechanical than i do the fact you have admitted in the past to not having much experience should be enough to suggest that you listen and learn from others with more experience. when did i say this and about what. sure there are things that i dont have a whole lot of experience with and the same goes for you. yep for one ive never given birth to a child. the problem is tom that youre unwilling to accept that another person could have more experience / knowledge than you. it didnt happen to you its not in the manual therefore it cant be true is the way you see things. it is not just me it is also john marsh monster and flip flop max. there is also nobody jumping in to say that i am wrong and as made obvious with the re-introduction of the helium crap by maxi and tom peopl

From : billy

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From : Annonymous

i think just about everyone has had something fix itself or become functional without the repair being the correct repair. to me its just one of the things that keeps life interesting. how ya been miles -- budd cochran john kunkel wrote what about my previous statement lemme tell you about the time i fixed a slipping transmission by tightening one lug nut on the left front wheel find any fault with that claim could you pass judgement on the validity of my claim without actually being there if you have reason to doubt the validity of the story explain the reason for your doubts. lol! instead of admitting you screwed up youre attempting to lead budd into the same stupid ass bs you gave out. now thats some funny stuff right there! .

From : tom lawrence

i never said that it was unaffected i said that on the surface of this planet the force of gravity is negated by the force of the atmosphere pushing it back up and therefore it has no weight. perhaps i should have said measurable weight but for that light conversation it doesnt matter. and you should be the last one to talk with your theory that an object in freefall has no weight. if it had no weight it would not fall pretty much like helium - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving it is not what i say can or cant happen it is the laws of physics and high school physics at that. are these the same laws of physics that said helium was unaffected by gravity .