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From : carolina watercraft works

Q: tbone wrote it was not just my personal results but for the metal lines to fail in less than 8 years shows some real second rate materials being used and with the rear bearing problems and delamination problems that many have posted about in here as they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... if there were that many cases it would show up on nhtsas list of owner complaints. it does not. if it is not just your say so then prove it. show me some real figures other than your own since you say there are so many. like you say if it walks like a duck then show me the quack...oh wait you already quacked. .

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From : bdk

leavingthestoneage@yahoo.com says... my truck starts and sounds smooth at an idle but it takes a triumph of finesse to keep the engine running when i give it gas or come to a stop with the truck in gear if it has a thermoquad 4 barrel this can be caused by one of the main jets loosening up. i had rejetted my 77 and since it had run fine during the initial test drive after i took it to work and about halfway there it started doing all kinds of weird stuff. it idled ok but took all kinds of pumping feathering and stuff to keep running or accelerating a little bit. i did top out at 30mph along the long drive back home. about 20 minutes after i got home i was back on the road. i had taking a tq apart down solid at that point. bdk .

From : scottremovetoreply

there is no heat in van. thermostat may need replacing. if so what will it cost to repair and how long long will it take to repair .

From : dave lee

perhaps i phrase my question as clear as i could have... so i will try again i am considering the purchase of a 2005/2006 dakota slt - therefore i do not have a manual to check. i was hoping someone with a manual would advise me of the preferred as well as the option higher viscosity oils that may be referred to in the owners manual. unlike some other car makers dodge does not seem to have a tech link that i am able to locate. my current vehicle manufacturer has a great support site complete with tsbs oild viscosity charts etc. thanks for any help you can give. paul .

From : bdk

i dont need all of them just one. the brake line on mine failed at only 8 years old which shows it to be inferior. nope. shos that it failed. it doesnt prove anything else at all. have three other vehicles that have not had this problem and all were driven under similar conditions and two of them are significantly older so it is not just a matter of time. ive had older vehicles that the brake lines were fine and younger ones that the brakelines were rusted through. its a matter of conditions not inferior materials. brake line is manufactured to a pressure spec thus all brake line will be of similar material. if these lines were used on many trucks then there will be a huge problem in the near future ok so it was you that said the problem was huge despite your denial in the immediately previous post where you informed miles that he and i said it not you. given that your truck is a 97 and there are not any huge problems with the 94 95 and 96 model years i seriously doubt there will be a huge problem on the 97. but i did say that is could be nothing more than a bad batch but with dc recent history im not sure about that and the chances are good that it is something more. it was you and miles that spun it into all of this bs. no it was you. you claimed that dc had a massive campaign to screw the consumer that they used inferior materials and that brake lines dont rust out in eight years. youve backed none of those claims with facts and thus the conclusion that comes from all this is thta you are once again full of shit. have a nice day. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author if you were smarter than me youd have proof of what you claim. i do its sitting in my driveway. you have all 1997 dodge trucks in your driveway if not you dont have proof. i dont need all of them just one. the brake line on mine failed at only 8 years old which shows it to be inferior. i have three other vehicles that have not had this problem and all were driven under similar conditions and two of them are significantly older so it is not just a matter of time. if these lines were used on many trucks then there will be a huge problem in the near future but i did say that is could be nothing more than a bad batch but with dc recent history im not sure about that and the chances are good that it is something more. it was you and miles that spun it into all of this bs. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : johnny thunders johnny

now this is really funny. it was a joke budd and a much less offensive one than the one you posted about miss clinton. why is it ok for you to say whatever you want to about anybody you want to as long as they are on the left but if anyone says anything about you or anyone on the right it is just a vicious attack for no reason. funny how you didnt bother to answer any of my questions though i guess that you cant but thats ok subject dropped. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ok now you stepped over the line. a religious remark aimed squarely at me and for no reason. now its documented that you threw the first flame. never will you be able to claim innocence again tom. but im not playing your game tom. go play your game with someone else. budd tbone dec 15 1027 am hide options from tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com - find messages by this author date thu 15 dec 2005 172729 gmt local thurs dec 15 2005 1027 am subject re ot- a deal that shouldnt be passed up reply | reply to author | forward | print | individual message | show original | report abuse no she was the daughter of a pair of celebrities and unlike our current presidents daughters kept herself for the most part out of the limelight. what is the exact motivation for this joke anyway budd since she hasnt been the first daughter for 5 years now. could it be that the republican party is screwing the pooch and may lose control at the next election if so then it is pretty low to take your bitterness out on someones daughter and this was not a joke it is an attack on her worth you do know that right mr. religion. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : bdk

laura bush of *never* having to work for a living now that was really democrap hypocrisy since heinz-kerry inherited all her money from her husband senator heinz. moreover laura bush taught for many years in the texas public school system hit the road t-bone and take your double standard democreep hypocrisy with you. has your democreep party come up with a plan for iraq yet nevermind the democrap plan is to cut and run while letting coward dean rant & rave like the lunatic he is. yeah t-bone have some class leave cheneys daughter out of it. john purple hearts kerry my ass! i read a while ago in the odd on yahoo that kenyan councilman godwin kipkemoi chepkurgor offered 40 goats and 2 cows for the hand of chelsea clinton in marriage about five years ago. he must be desperate. i dont think she could be worth more than a couple pigs and a rat but only if they offer change back. budd this is pretty low budd and shows a complete lack of class. what did chelsea do to you or anybody else for that matter and you of all people who claims that family should be kept out of things. if you dont like bill or hillary fine make your jokes about them since they are both public figures in politics but have some class man and leave their daughter out of it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . tbone wrote if the problem is just beginning to show itself then how would they know about it you wouldnt know about it either which means your claim is just bs! i do know about it because it just happened to me. i didnt say anything because i figured that it just might be a fluke but now that someone else complained about exactly the same problem and two other people also made statements about the exact same problem on the nhtsa site. when maybe 5% of the truck owners even think of the nhtsa and maybe .01% of those that even know about it bother to take the time to report to it since it is useless on an out of warranty vehicle i would say that any mention at all is huge and i bet more will come in the next few months. then when you add dcs current history of using second rate parts for whatever reason in many areas it is not hard to make that call. sure i could be wrong but current history shows that the chances are better that i am right even if you close your eyes real tight and scream it cant be true it cant be true lol! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : bdk

oh for crying out loud tom. get off you high horse and enjoy a simple joke about a celebrity. and yes she is a celebritry . . .one time first daughter and all that. budd this is pretty low budd and shows a complete lack of class. what did chelsea do to you or anybody else for that matter and you of all people who claims that family should be kept out of things. if you dont like bill or hillary fine make your jokes about them since they are both public figures in politics but have some class man and leave their daughter out of it. -- .

From : carolina watercraft works

nhtsa for one. youre the one that made the claim that this year of truck has brake line troubles yet you cant show me one scrap of credible evidence of such. if the problem is just beginning to show itself then how would they know about it even more to the point if the problem is just beginning to show itsef how the hell would you know the scale of said problem because im smarter than you but then again thats not saying much. more spin. miles kicked your ass. the only real spin is coming from you but if it makes you feel better to believe this knock yourself out. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

nhtsa for one. youre the one that made the claim that this year of truck has brake line troubles yet you cant show me one scrap of credible evidence of such. if the problem is just beginning to show itself then how would they know about it even more to the point if the problem is just beginning to show itsef how the hell would you know the scale of said problem more spin. miles kicked your ass. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author tbone wrote most huh and you can prove this how nhtsa for one. youre the one that made the claim that this year of truck has brake line troubles yet you cant show me one scrap of credible evidence of such. if the problem is just beginning to show itself then how would they know about it -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : carolina watercraft works

and in the minds of others as well clutch boy. while i know i am far from the group favorite you are not much further up the list. do tell who just about everybody. how amusing. given the comments that keep showing up here i doubt anyone thinks you are generally credible. and those same comments are said about you and lately more often than they are said about me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : xclimation

the american people are barbarian. -- |;ometis you probably think that the people of iraq are angels. posted via usenet.com premium usenet group services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** speed ** retention ** completion ** anonymity ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http//www.usenet.com .

From : xclimation

no not exactly. but you are correct. i just think that with dna being used less innocent people will be railroaded. not saying it wont happen. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels you are sadly under the false assumption that both the prosecution and the defense will perform honestly which has been proven time and time again to not always happen. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i can agree to some degree. lately ive been thinking of the people in the that have been cleared after 20 or so years. however looking forward to the future with dna evidence being at the forefront of investigations nowadays seems like...i think less and less innocent people will be put in jail...leaving room for the truly guilty. and...if its definitive that all 25 of the people in the game are indeed guilty then that may not be a bad idea. public hangings hell where do i get my viewing tickets ticketmaster -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolin

From : mac davis

could you spin any faster maxi every problem begins somewhere. are you not bright enough to figure even that much out yeah i am but you arent. you claimed the problem was already huge and blamed corporate greed. now you claim the problem is just beginning. what will you claim next i honestly believe that you are dumb enough to say this and mean it. how about never changing the brake fluid and many never do driving the vehicle on the beach and possibly in the surf as seen on tv never cleaning the chassie after heavy salt use on the roads. do i really need to continue yup since most owners never worry about all that you just mentioned and most owners do several if not all you mentioned. yet there hasnt been any proof offered by you that there is a massive brake line problem. if the problem is just beginning to reveal itself there will be no documentation and you knew that right you originally claimed there was a massive problem caused by corporate greed but you already knew that right so where is the problem -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author give it time pinhead mine just failed about a month ago and the ops truck probably just failed. ok so youve gone from this being an overriding problem with many trucks involved to... the problem is just beginning and a veritable epidemic of complaints from 1997 dodge ram owners will begin rolling in any time now.......... wait for it.......... ok not now but........... now.......... alright maybe a bit longer..... could you spin any faster maxi every problem begins somewhere. are you not bright enough to figure even that much out also many owners will not complain after 8 years as many are no longer the original owners and would probably blame the failure on abuse from the original or previous owner. which would be defined as an owner climbing under the truck and hitting his brake lines with a hammer i honestly believe that you are dumb enough to say this and mean it. how about never changing the brake fluid and many never do driving the vehicle on the beach and possibly in the surf as seen on tv never cleaning the chassie after heavy salt use on the roads. do i really need to continue no matter how ya cut it your lame claim is getting weaker each time you state it..... not really despite your spin. unless of course you follow miles advice and get actual documentation on the problem from nhtsa or another reputable source. if the problem is just beginning to reveal itself there will be no documentation and you knew that right -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : mac davis

on tue 13 dec 2005 125652 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote my 2000 ram 1500 drivers side seat control started blinking when turned on. passenger side works fine. is there anything i could check that would cause this malfunction im sure our own yer toosh heated seat guy will have an answer for you soon.vbg roy or our resident burger chomping bunny-tech... mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : tbone

on wed 14 dec 2005 011859 gmt j j@j.com wrote this is great. i was beginning to think there were more against rather than in favor. were too lenient when it comes to criminals in this country. is the death penalty perfect no. would i want an innocent person to be put to death of course not. but we really need to start putting more of these criminals who are indeed guilty to death. im not looking for it to be a deterrent to crime. i know that wont work. i just want these cockroaches to suffer as much as their victims did. its so expensive because of all the damn appeals. lets trim that down. hell id even be in favor of going back to public hangings. im pretty fed up with these a-holes who say the death penalty is too barbaric. what about the barbaric crimes these animals committed you think they gave a damn about the victims feelings when they killed them i think not. im feedup with the far left and the bleeding heart liberals. people need to be hels acountable for their actions. i think the only good thing about the death penalty is that it is a deterrent... no recorded repeat offenders as far as i know... my problem with the justice system is that its so busy protecting prisoners rights that weve gotten past punishment.. sure ive talked to several folks that have done federal time and i know its not a fun place to be.... but when did not allowing cable tv become cruel and unusual punishment tookie wrote several books and spent several million dollars of our money on attorneys and other little items like food and housing... what did he do to pay that expense back... or to offer the victims families closure maybe its time to being back the chain gang road crews or something mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : mac davis

on wed 14 dec 2005 070621 -0500 bdk kingratay@buckeye-express.com wrote and what about people who are wrongly convicted sometimes it takes 15- 20 years to prove them innocent. of course if the police and prosecutors would do their jobs correctly this would very seldom happen. but you know it has. i dont really care about tookie he did enough stuff to get offed for anyway but you see constantly on tv some stories about some poor bastard who is proven innocent 10-15-20 years after conviction and usually a couple of years of that time is caused by prosecutors dragging their feet or sometimes fighting a dna test. if they are sure of the persons guilt why fight it thats not taking into account the actual times the police frame people and the da hides evidence that clears them. theres a local guy here who was sent up for murdering his girlfriend mostly due to the obviously coached testimony of his 3 year old son. after fighting for years and his grandmother protesting daily at the courthouse he got a dna test and like he claimed all along it wasnt him. the da isnt getting go completely as they still refuse to totally clear him saying we arent sure he wasnt involved somehow. they took 14 years away from him he lost everything his son is brainwashed and hates him his health is shot and they dont want to give him any cash for his trouble.. some justice! bdk bit was dna available at the time of the crime in all the cases that i have read where a person gets out with a pardon after 20 years etc. its because new methods such as dna were used to prove them innocent.. it would seem that since these methods now exist that option is already used at the time of arrest etc... mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : rider89

metis wrote the american people are barbarian. and your opinion matters because........ -- ..bob on order 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : lorne guess noguess net

where can i find the pin of the black plastic hubcaps for a 2002 dodge van jlb .

From : bdk

fmbb@sbcglobal.net says... heres my idea of how death row should be........... 2 rows of cells. 25 on each side. a big spinning wheel with the numbers 1 to 50 on it. every hour the wheel get a big spin. if your number comes up........ you lose. as the cell becomes available.... a new player enters the game. since there seems to be no shortage of players.... the game can run 24/7 the wheel of misfortune the reaper death is not a game. let the person be inocent until such time he is found not guilty or guilty. place time limits on appeals and force the upper courts to make room for these appeals on a timely basis. give them one appeal to the state supreme court and one to the us supreme court. give them 6 months to place the appeal and give the courts 2 months to hear the appeal and a max of 30 days between hearing the appeal and giving their opinion. that is 9 months maximum at the state level and 9 months at the federal level. i dont think the govenor should have an opportunity to do anything but watch the process. williams would have been dead almost 20 years by now. my 2 cents worth. fmb only one b in fmb and what about people who are wrongly convicted sometimes it takes 15- 20 years to prove them innocent. of course if the police and prosecutors would do their jobs correctly this would very seldom happen. but you know it has. i dont really care about tookie he did enough stuff to get offed for anyway but you see constantly on tv some stories about some poor bastard who is proven innocent 10-15-20 years after conviction and usually a couple of years of that time is caused by prosecutors dragging their feet or sometimes fighting a dna test. if they are sure of the persons guilt why fight it thats not taking into account the actual times the police frame people and the da hides evidence that clears them. perhaps with the advancement of dna technology laws should be changed to afford immediate testing. theres a local guy here who was sent up for murdering his girlfriend mostly due to the obviously coached testimony of his 3 year old son. after fighting for years and his grandmother protesting daily at the courthouse he got a dna test and like he claimed all along it wasnt him. the da isnt getting go completely as they still refuse to totally clear him saying we arent sure he wasnt involved somehow. they took 14 years away from him he lost everything his son is brainwashed and hates him his health is shot and they dont want to give him any cash for his trouble.. that seems to be happening more and more. seems a lot of it is politiclly driven. sort of clear the case load the elections next month. roy some justice! bdk .

From : Annonymous

heres my idea of how death row should be........... 2 rows of cells. 25 on each side. a big spinning wheel with the numbers 1 to 50 on it. every hour the wheel get a big spin. if your number comes up........ you lose. as the cell becomes available.... a new player enters the game. since there seems to be no shortage of players.... the game can run 24/7 the wheel of misfortune the reaper death is not a game. let the person be inocent until such time he is found not guilty or guilty. place time limits on appeals and force the upper courts to make room for these appeals on a timely basis. give them one appeal to the state supreme court and one to the us supreme court. give them 6 months to place the appeal and give the courts 2 months to hear the appeal and a max of 30 days between hearing the appeal and giving their opinion. that is 9 months maximum at the state level and 9 months at the federal level. i dont think the govenor should have an opportunity to do anything but watch the process. williams would have been dead almost 20 years by now. my 2 cents worth. fmb only one b in fmb .

From : fmb

the only issue not resolved at this point is when the germans bombed pearl harbor. have fun figuring that out. since it never happened... sure it did. you just dont understand when. but youre on a roll..... back to the double posting i see and just after you jump on me for doing it lol. if you think so then back it up or shut up as you say to me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : randall harris

tom and i know exactly when the germans bombed pearl harbor. yea sure you do. yeah we do. lol only in your own mind maxi boy you otoh dont know squat about brake lines dirt and rust on an under carriage scientific method or corporate profits let alone when the germans bombed pearl harbor. and yet i prove you wrong time and time again. only in your own mind tommy boy....... and in the minds of others as well clutch boy. while i know i am far from the group favorite you are not much further up the list. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : carolina watercraft works

my 02 1500 got broke into last week and im replacing the door window myself. how do i get the window trim off so i can get the attached brackets on the new glass down in to the door frame and 2. my fan for the heatingvent and ac keeps cutting off randomly. its been a rough week with no window and the heat working when it wants to. any help would be aswome. thanks jeremy .

From : roy

i can agree to some degree. lately ive been thinking of the people in the that have been cleared after 20 or so years. however looking forward to the future with dna evidence being at the forefront of investigations nowadays seems like...i think less and less innocent people will be put in jail...leaving room for the truly guilty. and...if its definitive that all 25 of the people in the game are indeed guilty then that may not be a bad idea. public hangings hell where do i get my viewing tickets ticketmaster -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels fmbb@sbcglobal.net says... heres my idea of how death row should be........... 2 rows of cells. 25 on each side. a big spinning wheel with the numbers 1 to 50 on it. every hour the wheel get a big spin. if your number comes up........ you lose. as the cell becomes available.... a new player enters the game. since there seems to be no shortage of players.... the game can run 24/7 the wheel of misfortune the reaper death is not a game. let the person be inocent until such time he is found not guilty or guilty. place time limits on appeals and force the upper courts to make room for these appeals on a timely basis. give them one appeal to the state supreme court and one to the us supreme court. give them 6 months to place the appeal and give the courts 2 months to hear the appeal and a max of 30 days between hearing the appeal and giving their opinion. that is 9 months maximum at the state level and 9 months at the federal level. i dont think the govenor should have an opportunity to do anything but watch the process. williams would have been dead almost 20 years by now. my 2 cents worth. fmb only one b in fmb and what about people who are wrongly convicted sometimes it takes 15- 20 years to prove them innocent. of course if the police and prosecutors would do their jobs correctly this would very seldom happen. but you know it has. i dont really care about tookie he did enough stuff to get offed for anyway but you see constantly on tv some stories about some poor bastard who is proven innocent 10-15-20 years after conviction and usually a couple of years of that time is caused by prosecutors dragging their feet or sometimes fighting a dna test. if they are sure of the persons guilt why fight it thats not taking into account the actual times the police frame people and the da hides evidence that clears them. perhaps with the advancement of dna technology laws should be changed to afford immediate testing. theres a local guy here who was sent up for murdering his girlfriend mostly due to the obviously coached testimony of his 3 year old son. after fighting for years and his grandmother protesting daily at the courthouse he got a dna test and like he claimed all along it wasnt him. the da isnt getting go completely as they still refuse to totally clear him saying we arent sure he wasnt involved somehow. they took 14 years away from him he lost everything his son is brainwashed and hates him his health is shot and they dont want to give him any cash for his trouble.. that seems to be happening more and more. seems a lot of it is politiclly driven. sort of clear the case load the elections next month. roy some justice! bdk .

From : fmb

ok all that for this. is there any way to pull that busted door out and place in a new one without pulling the whole dash out which includes pulling the steering column short answer no. you need to disassemble the hvac assembly to replace the doors which means you need to remove it from the vehicle which means you need to remove the dash and recover the a/c and drain the coolant. sorry... one of the reasons i sprung for the extended service contract having twice shelled out for hvac-related repairs on two of my other vehicles leaking evap. in one truck leaking heater core in another. .

From : fmb

the trouble started about a week ago. symptoms are as follows; 1. blended air seems to work fine hot when i want it hot and cooler when i move the levers to cooler. dual climate controls 2. floor vent seems to work fine but i thought it used to blow more. 3. dash vents barely blow at all. 4. defrost flows nothing. 5. no noticible differance when hitting the recirc button. all of those above are with the changing of the switch to the correct position and waiting a bit for the doors to operate. so thinks i lets check the defrost door actuator and the panel actuator. i pull the actuators and measure 150 ohms across the terminals. i manually move the doors to see they are not stuck. i reconnect the wires but dont mount the actuators. i pull the plug out of the back of the panel switch and plug it back in. i reconnect the battery and put the key on. i move the switch and watch the output shaft driver of the actuators. they dont move for several second 10-15 then i tried to move one and they both begin moving on their own. seems to have been stuck or maybe i didnt wait long enough i replace the actuators on their respective shafts and try the tests as above. i get the same results low or no flow of air. you know i dont hear the recirc door slamming into position anymore. i can see through the recirculation door assembly and i can watch the rda actuator turn something inside but my eyes are not as good as they used to be so it takes a min of back and forth before i realize there is a door missing and something that looks like a broken plastic shaft. i fish around with my fingers a talent refined elsewhere and feel the door laying flat blocking the downward flow of air. i moved it up to where i can see where it broke off the shaft. crap! that grill does not seem removable to allow access to the door. the rda comes apart with 4 screws two of which im thinking are situated so you must tear the whole truck apart to get to them. ok all that for this. is there any way to pull that busted door out and place in a new one without pulling the whole dash out which includes pulling the steering column fmb only one b in fmb .

From : j

this is great. i was beginning to think there were more against rather than in favor. were too lenient when it comes to criminals in this country. is the death penalty perfect no. would i want an innocent person to be put to death of course not. but we really need to start putting more of these criminals who are indeed guilty to death. im not looking for it to be a deterrent to crime. i know that wont work. snip i agree with most of what you say. of course it works as a deterrant. you wont find tookey williams committing any more crimes. fmb only one b in fmb .

From : bob

tbone wrote lol please miles you change every fluid just about daily. with the maintanence level you keep up with a yugo would probably last for years. ahh...so the truth comes out. you dont believe in keeping fluids clean and obviously have a problem with doing so to extend the life of a vehicle. if any fluid comes out looking dirty then you waited too long and its your own damn fault for the failure. because in many cases that is exactly what it is even though you try and make it seem like it never happens. lol! many cases most people have no problems at all. i cannot learn what simply isnt true. the days of the fair and honest businessman is sadly over. thats your liberal left spewing again. the vast majority of business owners arent any different than the rest of people in the country. theyre mostly good hard working people. its your liberal mindset that always sees doom and gloom everywhere you look. how to piss off a liberal work be successfull be happy. works every time. .

From : pinehollow

if you think the laws suck here try breaking them in an other country like thailand or laos!!! just too dam bad we can not do what we all wish would happen to some of these people. sure must make a guy feel good to beat up an 80 year woman for a few bucks!!! the american people are barbarian. -- |;ometis you probably think that the people of iraq are angels. posted via usenet.com premium usenet group services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** speed ** retention ** completion ** anonymity ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http//www.usenet.com .

From : carolina watercraft works

the only issue not resolved at this point is when the germans bombed pearl harbor. have fun figuring that out. since it never happened... sure it did. you just dont understand when. but youre on a roll..... back to the double posting i see and just after you jump on me for doing it lol. if you think so then back it up or shut up as you say to me. i dont give a damn if you quadruple post i just like to see you get wadded up about it. and yes i think you are on a roll. its not over till we say its over. so when did the germans bomb pearl harbor -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author the only issue not resolved at this point is when the germans bombed pearl harbor. have fun figuring that out. since it never happened... sure it did. you just dont understand when. but youre on a roll..... back to the double posting i see and just after you jump on me for doing it lol. if you think so then back it up or shut up as you say to me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

in here as they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... ....its probably tbones mouth flappin in the breeze. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author tbone wrote in order to call it a lie you need to prove me wrong and you have yet to do that but dont worry ill wait while you dance. you first have to prove yourself right or at least give some credible evidence of such. instead all you offer is your one single puny personal results. it was not just my personal results but for the metal lines to fail in less than 8 years shows some real second rate materials being used and with the rear bearing problems and delamination problems that many have posted about in here as they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... then claim youre right about making generalized claims about an entire company or brand for a given year. lol. some funny stuff right there! it is what it is miles even if you dont want to hear it. you have no credibility tbone so making a bonehead statement and then demanding to be proven wrong is absurd. i really hate to burst your bubble there miles but you really fair no better in the credibility department. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : carolina watercraft works

my last uk vauxhall cavalier lasted 180000 miles and 16 yrs without any major parts replacement at all. original clutch afaik too. youre daft if you think maintenance is expensive because of euro design too. and you are daft if you think the parts for these cars simply skip over the ocean free of charge. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author max dodge wrote european vehicles fare a bit better but by seven years can become cantankerous if not costly to maintain due to nickel and dime stuff that costs ten times as much because its euro design. uh my last uk vauxhall cavalier lasted 180000 miles and 16 yrs without any major parts replacement at all. original clutch afaik too. youre daft if you think maintenance is expensive because of euro design too. graham .