Testing egr solenoid on Dodge Dakota
From : bill
Q: ive got a 1990 dakota that has some problems and i needed to check the egr solenoid to see if it was working. using a dianostic tool im was able to energize the solenoid but i couldnt tell if it was working or not. im getting voltage switches at the connector but cannot feel a click or anything. my question is shuld i feel anything or is that type of solenoid valve supposed to act quietly. i did not have time to put a vacumme testor on one of the lines to see if i was getting any switch action but since im getting vacume on the egr valve at idle which i dont think i should i figure the valve is bad. there are two other similar valves on the same mount and none of them seems to work either so i really need to know if i should be feeling anything when these are activated so i can figure out if i need to replace all of them. any ideas bill .
Replies:
From : brad
u turn on the sol 2 port vac should go thur not on /no vac .
From : bill
u turn on the sol 2 port vac should go thur not on /no vac its a 3 port soleniod. like i said i didnt have time to play with a vacume gauge on the ports to see what happens when the solenoid is energized but i figured that if someone could tell me what sounds or vibrations if any it should make when energized it would give me a head start. bill .
From : tbone
the solenoid could be functional and the valve still be bad. the only way to know is to test it properly. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving u turn on the sol 2 port vac should go thur not on /no vac its a 3 port soleniod. like i said i didnt have time to play with a vacume gauge on the ports to see what happens when the solenoid is energized but i figured that if someone could tell me what sounds or vibrations if any it should make when energized it would give me a head start. bill .
From : tbonetbonetbone
lol i see that he didnt respond to this one. i guess that it is hard for him to type with his foot that far down his throat. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on 03 oct 2003 213306 gmt max340@aol.compost max340 wrote whoa now cell phone use is reckless driving maxie youd have to prove that one. but in this case you cant because it isnt. precisely how astute you are this fine day. thanks maxie. means so much coming from you. cell phone use and being tired are not proven to cause accidents but certainly can be a contributing factor. neither one can be conclusively proven to be the cause of any one incident but we all know that laws against cell phone use while driving are on the books and now there is one about tired drivers in nj. i find it veryinteresting that you both claim that cell phone use isnt reckless when clearly it takes from the drivers concentration on the road but you are both willing to accept a tired driver law as needed. really i dont claim anything maxie. i dont make the law just telling you what it is. it comes down to what ive said from the beginning people will do strange things while driving and if it causes an accident its negligence/reckless and would be found as such under laws already regulating operation of a motor vehicle in such a manner. yep. another maxie trick. change horses in midstream. start out in reckless then call it negligence. lol recklessness is negligence. no change there and further ive not used the terms interchangably since the laws define it as two different degrees of the same thing. interesting point of law. perhaps you could point me to the citation on that one. cell phone usage in a case where it diverted the drivers attention and an accident took place certainly would justify a citation for negligent driving an infraction but would never support a charge of reckless driving a crime. it is classic that you accuse me of changing horses and then proceed to claim one offense is an infraction lol and the other is a crime. funny i thought an infraction of the law was a crime. sorry. read the law again maxie. not at all. recklessness and negligence while operating a motor vehicle are both summary offenses in this state. ah you are getting there now genius. yes they are both offenses. they are not both crimes however. this link clearly states that careless driving is a summary offense and that sleeping at the wheel falls into this category. no need for an extra law here. http//members.aol.com/statutesp2/75pa3714.html this link clearly states that reckless driving is a summary offense. http//members.aol.com/statutespa/75pa3736.html a summary offense is punishable by a fine and if under the motor vehicle code points assessed to the offenders operators license. once again tbone is absolutely correct. maxie is talking out his ass again. lol says he who calls one offense an infraction and the other a crime. once again its been interesting to hear from the horses ass while you jump from one to the other..... yep i did say that maxie. i said it because it is accurate. now i realize that you and accuracy are not exactly on good terms but it may benefit you to become somewhat familiar with it. i could give you the definitions maxie but i think ill wait a little longer until your foot is even farther down your mouth. but maxie will just say that he is baiting you for a response. baiting hell why use bait when youll jump out of the water voluntarily that is generally his excuse for his extreme ignorance and stupidity. no thats my excuse for making fun of your extreme ignorance and stupidity. which youve handily proven with that silly infraction/crime bullshit. careful maxie foot going even deeper. max i have add and my friends dont understand look!! a chicken!!! .
From : tbone
while mounted to the manifold i doubt that you will hear or feel much. a continuity tester across the input terminals should show if the coil is still good. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yes i know that this has nothing to do with the valve i wanted to know if the solenoid should indicated if it has been energized by clicking clunking or whatnot. there are three identicle solenoids on this truck egr air pump and purge related. i think all three might be bad but did not have time to test yet. i was hoping someone would know how these solenoids react when activated. ive gotten a hold of a new solenoid but wont be able to test it until tonight to see if i can tell a good one from a bad one. bill the solenoid could be functional and the valve still be bad. the only way to know is to test it properly. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving u turn on the sol 2 port vac should go thur not on /no vac its a 3 port soleniod. like i said i didnt have time to play with a vacume gauge on the ports to see what happens when the solenoid is energized but i figured that if someone could tell me what sounds or vibrations if any it should make when energized it would give me a head start. bill .
From : bill
yes i know that this has nothing to do with the valve i wanted to know if the solenoid should indicated if it has been energized by clicking clunking or whatnot. there are three identicle solenoids on this truck egr air pump and purge related. i think all three might be bad but did not have time to test yet. i was hoping someone would know how these solenoids react when activated. ive gotten a hold of a new solenoid but wont be able to test it until tonight to see if i can tell a good one from a bad one. bill the solenoid could be functional and the valve still be bad. the only way to know is to test it properly. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving u turn on the sol 2 port vac should go thur not on /no vac its a 3 port soleniod. like i said i didnt have time to play with a vacume gauge on the ports to see what happens when the solenoid is energized but i figured that if someone could tell me what sounds or vibrations if any it should make when energized it would give me a head start. bill .
From : bill
well i picked up a new solenoid and this one makes a definate click/clunk when energized. this was done while being held in my hand and having 12 volts applied to the terminals. looks like all three solenoids are bad then since i did this with each of them and did not feel anything. im hoping that this might be part of what is responsible for my poor idle since the other two are for purging the canister and something with the air pump. ill find out tonight when i get the two other ones. bill while mounted to the manifold i doubt that you will hear or feel much. a continuity tester across the input terminals should show if the coil is still good. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yes i know that this has nothing to do with the valve i wanted to know if the solenoid should indicated if it has been energized by clicking clunking or whatnot. there are three identicle solenoids on this truck egr air pump and purge related. i think all three might be bad but did not have time to test yet. i was hoping someone would know how these solenoids react when activated. ive gotten a hold of a new solenoid but wont be able to test it until tonight to see if i can tell a good one from a bad one. bill the solenoid could be functional and the valve still be bad. the only way to know is to test it properly. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving u turn on the sol 2 port vac should go thur not on /no vac its a 3 port soleniod. like i said i didnt have time to play with a vacume gauge on the ports to see what happens when the solenoid is energized but i figured that if someone could tell me what sounds or vibrations if any it should make when energized it would give me a head start. bill .