T-bone-head admits defeat, gives up, goes home to pout
From : transurgeon
Q: ignoramus13822 ignoramus13822@nospam.13822.invalid wrote in message on wed 22 jun 2005 174139 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote 3 / 2 = 1.5 thats correct. and when you can disprove that then you win and until then it is just fuzzy math. while 3 may be 150% more than 2 thats incorrect. it can be said that 3 is 150% of 2 or that 3 is 50% greater than 2. lol and i made that same argument more than once my mistake. 3 / 2 is still only 1.5 regardless of the units attached to those numbers. correct. 1.5 is the same as 150%. the rule is actually simple a percent is 1/100. i know that but a percentage of a percentage is just fuzzy math. i never said that the math was incorrect which is something that gary just doesnt seem to get. it is called fuzzy math because it doesnt always accurately represent a given situation. small percentages can sometimes reflect huge numeric differences and microscopic differences can be reflected with huge percentages both of which can deceive the person reading them especially if the percentage is all that they see. no you wrote 3% / 2% = 1.5 % you really need to stop digging its not helping and you really need to stop proving my point. like i said when you think that you are right you fight like hell even to the point of starting all new threads on the subject. where are the threads or even responses on the origional quadcab thread point made conversation over. your surrender is noted as is your defeat in the actual thread subject. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
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From : tbone
not any dumber than suggesting a lemon law claim after more than five or up to 7 by your thinking years of ownership. in what way a lemon is a lemon. please point to the definition that claims only a new car can be or become a lemon. gladly... as an example since the laws vary slightly from state to state lets look at nj. take a look at http//www.lemonlaw.com/njstatute.html and read the second paragraph. youll notice they specifically say applies to new cars and mention nothing about used vehicles. unless i missed something which is entirely possible he is the origional owner of the vehicle so it is not a used vehicle unless you are indicating that he used it bit that would make it a used vehicle the minute he drove it off of the lot and the law would apply to nobody. perhaps you might want to look at the third paragraph where it tlaks about the federal breech of warranty laws that also use the three repair attempt condition. even though the state lemon law might not help him the federal one might. buyers remorse is obviously something that is delt with in the begining of the purchase. a lemon is a lemon and the lemon law deals with multiple attempts of the same warranty repair. there is nothing obvious in it having a time limit prior to the end of the warranty. there is to anyone whos bothered to do a half a minutes worth of research before offering advice on it or maybe reading the little handbook that comes with any new vehicle purchase. i simply gave a suggestion and i dont recall the handbook talking about any federal breach of warranty laws perhaps because i never needed to bring the truck in for anything but the converter well after the factory warranty was done. by the way - how is the restrictions of buyers remorse any more obvious than the limitations on the invocation of a lemon law claim because buyers remorse is what it is and usually doesnt appear years later but a warranty does last for years and a vehicle can become a lemon despite the industry definition at pretty much any time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
no shit tom like i said a million times its 1.5. but earlier you said it was 1.5% which is .015. yea i said that like once maybe twice and was wrong. after that i moved to a valid point about using percentages as a method of fuzzy math which is accurate to prove a point. when he thinks he is right regardless of what i say he fights on and here he is doing exactly that. you have heard of the expression involving a pot a kettle and a very dark color right lol not really. in order to prove my point i had to continue. now according to gary he would only post when i had something of value to say and i made this a devoid of value as possible and not only did he keep posting he created new threads about it just like i said he would because he thought he was right and about the percent division he was. but even with valid questions pending on the trans thread he abandoned that one and i wonder why. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
badger wrote what is ironic is i have a 93 d250 cummins 5sp 355 axle and 24 mpg empty 16 pulling an 8800 pound trailer hard! maybe ironic is the wrong term but i wouldnt trade mine for a new one thats for sure. clay in my opinion those early cummins dodge were some of the most economical and reliable models ever built. when i lived in montana in the mid 90s those old models though pretty new then were very popular with the hunters and fishermman that would travel long distances on weekends with the camper and boat in tow while still getting 14 to 15 mpg doing it. -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/dodge-ram-2500-gas-mileage-hemi-ftopict125671.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=612637 .
From : max dodge
either replace it or give the owner his money back. what exactly is the purpose of a warranty if they have no intention of honoring it. not arguing that point but thats not a lemon law situation. again - they only apply to the first few years of ownership. fine i didnt know that. i never had to use it just knew that it existed. idea why the transmission would not shift into overdrive your example is kinda dumb. not any dumber than suggesting a lemon law claim after more than five or up to 7 by your thinking years of ownership. in what way a lemon is a lemon. please point to the definition that claims only a new car can be or become a lemon. question as to if a cleanout would clear the problem. in my case the lemon law does exist to help with this specific problem unable to repair the same warranty item multiple times but this specific problem is on a vehicle well beyond the lemon law period. you might have just as well advised him to use that buyers remorse law that most states also have on the books. buyers remorse is obviously something that is delt with in the begining of the purchase. a lemon is a lemon and the lemon law deals with multiple attempts of the same warranty repair. there is nothing obvious in it having a time limit prior to the end of the warranty. problem. denny answered it clearly and to the point. there was simply no need for a response like garys other than he just likes being an asshole. again its all in the interpretation. i interpreted garys response as no tbone - a lemon law claim wouldnt be valid against a 5 year old vehicle. maybe youre just looking for things to complain about... oh bull shit tom. youre even dumber than i thought is nothing more than an asshole comment made because he just acts that way to people he doesnt like. i guess thats the same reason you do what you do as well. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
it really bothers me when someone declares a debate over finished my last word on the subject etc. - but just has to make sure he gets the last word in. its dishonest disingenuous disrespectful... and probably a few more diss too. yeah like dis ain daway persents work idz dis way....... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. you guys arent trimming your posts again... come on now... as is your defeat in the actual thread subject. didnt you just say point made conversation over. it really bothers me when someone declares a debate over finished my last word on the subject etc. - but just has to make sure he gets the last word in. its dishonest disingenuous disrespectful... and probably a few more diss too. .
From : tbone
not trying to and perhaps you should follow your own advice. now what does that converter convert and how does the trans increase torque without producing more jesus mary and joseph you are one dense fuck you really need to relax gary this level of temper is not healthy. it is ok to admit that you might be wrong every now and then you will feel much better. i said several posts ago the torque converter changes high-rpm /l ow torque horsepower input to low rpm / high torque horsepower output so you are saying that it converts rpm to torque. well that sounds like it producing torque to me. glad you could admit to your error here. and i never said that the transmission increases torque that was your spin on it that is because it can and has nothing to do with spin. im just glad to be able to help you further your career with knowledge. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
the fallacy in mds statements are the numbers he begin with. k&ns efficiencies are between 97-98% with some as high as 99%. he conveniently chose the low end for his math. paper filters are all over the board. even though you cant see any holes some of them are as bad as 93%. im not sure where the 98% number for paper comes from unless it relates to a specific brand of paper filter that has been tested or one of the best paper filters that has been tested. you cant just buy any paper filter and feel that you are filtering better than a k&n. .
From : max dodge
sorry max im still waiting for a single answer from you on the subject. you claim to be an expert here and i admittedly am not and yet i am right and you are well just being you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i still show gary in the lead with at least 4 assholes 6 idiots at least one little angry boy and several others that i just dont feel like looking up dammit!! im obviously not working hard enough at this. back to name calling i see. how did max put it oh yea the first sign of a losing argument. the first sign of tbone losing an argument is the subject line which includes his name as the source of a post. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. btw guys i get 5 points for the little mind comment. who is at the top of the leader board right now i still show gary in the lead with at least 4 assholes 6 idiots at least one little angry boy and several others that i just dont feel like looking up what i find more amusing is that despite the above counts he actually posted back to name calling i see. how did max put it oh yea the first sign of a losing argument. .
From : tbone
max dodge wrote thats incorrect. a transmission can increase torque. for example a hypothetical transmission could take 50 ft-lbs of torque on input and produce 300 ft lbs of torque. numbers are arbitrary. no laws of physics are violated by increasing torque on output. no laws of physics are violated because its not an increase its a reconfiguration. max i beleive this to be incorrect. the horse power has been reconfigured by decreasing the rpm and increasing the torque. clay .
From : tom lawrence
how long ago was the carb rebuilt and did the engine ever run after the rebuild was the engine sitting for any length of time before this problem came into existence -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving the guy who rebuilt the carb for me said that the reason the truck took so long to crank when it had been sitting on an incline was that old fuel pumps lose their seal allowing the gas to slowly run back down toward the tank. i dont know how much pressure i have; when i checked the flow i held a regular plastic cup and the stream of fuel was hitting the center from just outside the edge 2-3 inches. anything else i need to check .
From : tom lawrence
yea im the only one doing it or even the one who started it. like they say people see only what they want to see. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving btw guys i get 5 points for the little mind comment. who is at the top of the leader board right now i still show gary in the lead with at least 4 assholes 6 idiots at least one little angry boy and several others that i just dont feel like looking up what i find more amusing is that despite the above counts he actually posted back to name calling i see. how did max put it oh yea the first sign of a losing argument. .
From : max dodge
lol bite me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving now ya see. you just get done yelling at me about continuing with the conversation and then you try to continue it yourself. the difference is i never claimed i was finished... you did... hypocrit .
From : max dodge
in what way a lemon is a lemon. please point to the definition that claims only a new car can be or become a lemon. a lemon is a car that despite being new needs more repair than an old car. why else would it be a lemon in addition if you actually read these laws which you admitted you hadnt they define a lemon as a new car within certain time limits from purchase. wtf do you ask for us to beat you about the head with facts so easily accessed -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. either replace it or give the owner his money back. what exactly is the purpose of a warranty if they have no intention of honoring it. not arguing that point but thats not a lemon law situation. again - they only apply to the first few years of ownership. fine i didnt know that. i never had to use it just knew that it existed. idea why the transmission would not shift into overdrive your example is kinda dumb. not any dumber than suggesting a lemon law claim after more than five or up to 7 by your thinking years of ownership. in what way a lemon is a lemon. please point to the definition that claims only a new car can be or become a lemon. question as to if a cleanout would clear the problem. in my case the lemon law does exist to help with this specific problem unable to repair the same warranty item multiple times but this specific problem is on a vehicle well beyond the lemon law period. you might have just as well advised him to use that buyers remorse law that most states also have on the books. buyers remorse is obviously something that is delt with in the begining of the purchase. a lemon is a lemon and the lemon law deals with multiple attempts of the same warranty repair. there is nothing obvious in it having a time limit prior to the end of the warranty. problem. denny answered it clearly and to the point. there was simply no need for a response like garys other than he just likes being an asshole. again its all in the interpretation. i interpreted garys response as no tbone - a lemon law claim wouldnt be valid against a 5 year old vehicle. maybe youre just looking for things to complain about... oh bull shit tom. youre even dumber than i thought is nothing more than an asshole comment made because he just acts that way to people he doesnt like. i guess thats the same reason you do what you do as well. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tom lawrence
actually a percent is a ration whose second term is 100 and like any ratio if it has no value attributed to it it means nothing. no ratios are numbers. and rations are food... but thats just more tbone confusion. for example the ratio 4/2 is a number equal to 2/1 or simply 2. yep - and 1/2 of a ration or 50% is a morsel. 50% of that a crumb. which incidentally will have a 37.5% chance of passing through a k&n filter .
From : tbone
newrvguy wrote 15 mpg on the highway and 10 mpg in the city is not much to ask. my father has a massive class a motorhome that gets 11 mpg on the hwy. back in the late 80s i rented a 30 foot southwind 454 powered motor home for a bit over 3 weeks and put close to 6000 miles on it. i pushed that baby hard going cross country to the rockies and then around in them. i got between 9 and 11 mpg which was not bad for a big box that weighed about 14k and had the aero dynamics of a somewhat steamlined brick. it would run 75 and 80 to if you asked too. i do remember talking to guys with winibagos that were 440 power in the 70s that complained about getting 5 to 6 mpg though they said power was good and gas was still cheap. -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/dodge-ram-2500-gas-mileage-hemi-ftopict125671.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=612428 .