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From : transurgeon

Q: oh look a net-nanny can we kill the top poasters furst .

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From : tbone

and the other wheels were chalked with what no matter what the color i dont think chaulk chalk would do much to hold a vehicle. wheel chocks on the other hand would be a very good idea i agree! chock it up to experience..... sorry... couldnt help myself! ;^ mike .

From : max dodge

i meant to say no meaning. if you ment no meaning then why are you talking -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. but is the number has no value other than 0 please indicate any other number that has no value. imaginary numbers excluded for this exercise please now ya see. you just get done yelling at me about continuing with the conversation and then you try to continue it yourself. that was an incorrect choice of words. i meant to say no meaning. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

can we kill the top poasters furst then take aim at people that cant spell... g denny its called fishing a little methalene blue will kill that nasty hook mark in the corner of your mouth. -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .

From : tbone

how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% yep 100% correct. - okay... i think this hole is deep enough.... tom - whats .03 divided by .02 hint it aint .015. no shit tom like i said a million times its 1.5. i understand what he is saying and was trying to prove a point one that i believe i clearly did. when he thinks he is right regardless of what i say he fights on and here he is doing exactly that. as harry potter would say mischief managed. but just a few posts ago see below you wrote the following how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% which is wrong so is your claim that a transmission cannot produce torque. it cant create it but it can produce it. changing the subject wont get your stupid sorry ass out of this one not trying to and perhaps you should follow your own advice. now what does that converter convert and how does the trans increase torque without producing more -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 302047 qzoue.10483$bn3.122119@twister.southeast.rr.com only in your little mind max but i expected nothing less. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving doesnt appear to matter what the subject of the thread is you are incorrect on both counts. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. sorry max but the percentage thing isnt the subject of the thread. but hey ill admit that i wasnt paying attention and got the percentage thing wrong as far as the 3% / 2% thing wrong big deal. the fuzzy math thing is still correct and is also not the subject of the thread at least not the intended subject. the actual subject was garys attack on a poster about being accurate on the inability of production of torque from a transmission and then went on to prove himself wrong. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving as is your defeat in the actual thread subject. tbone wins

From : tbone

doesnt appear to matter what the subject of the thread is you are incorrect on both counts. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. sorry max but the percentage thing isnt the subject of the thread. but hey ill admit that i wasnt paying attention and got the percentage thing wrong as far as the 3% / 2% thing wrong big deal. the fuzzy math thing is still correct and is also not the subject of the thread at least not the intended subject. the actual subject was garys attack on a poster about being accurate on the inability of production of torque from a transmission and then went on to prove himself wrong. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving as is your defeat in the actual thread subject. tbone wins!!! he gets the tbone math answer as his share of the goods.....so lets see.... 3% / 2% = 1.5% gary will get the real math share at..... 3% / 2% = 150% winner tbone.... wait um..... tbone ya wanna calculate that again -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. ignoramus13822 ignoramus13822@nospam.13822.invalid wrote in message on wed 22 jun 2005 174139 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote 3 / 2 = 1.5 thats correct. and when you can disprove that then you win and until then it is just fuzzy math. while 3 may be 150% more than 2 thats incorrect. it can be said that 3 is 150% of 2 or that 3 is 50% greater than 2. lol and i made that same argument more than once my mistake. 3 / 2 is still only 1.5 regardless of the units attached to those numbers. correct. 1.5 is the same as 150%. the rule is actually simple a percent is 1/100. i know that but a percentage of a percentage is just fuzzy math. i never said that the math was incorrect which is something that gary just doesnt seem to get. it is called fuzzy math because it doesnt always accurately represent a given situation. small percentages can sometimes reflect huge numeric differences and microscopic differences can be reflected with huge percentages both of which can deceive the person reading them especially if the percentage is all that they see. no you wrote 3% / 2% = 1.5 % you really need to stop digging its not helping and you really need to stop proving my point. like i said when you think that you are right you fight like hell even to the point of starting all new threads on the subject. where are the threads or even responses on the origional quadcab thread point made conversation over. your surrender is noted as is your defeat in the actual thread subject. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% yep 100% correct. - okay... i think this hole is deep enough.... tom - whats .03 divided by .02 hint it aint .015. no shit tom like i said a million times its 1.5. i understand what he is saying and was trying to prove a point one that i believe i clearly did. when he thinks he is right regardless of what i say he fights on and here he is doing exactly that. as harry potter would say mischief managed. but just a few posts ago see below you wrote the following how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% which is wrong so is your claim that a transmission cannot produce torque. it cant create it but it can produce it. changing the subject wont get your stupid sorry ass out of this one .

From : tbone

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% yep 100% correct. - nope if you ask real nice ill give you a hint to where you wnt wrong otherwise ill carry out my promise of last week to just keep pointing out your errors for all to see .

From : tom lawrence

the funny thing here is that your comprehension of what i said really doesnt mean anything and btw was wrong. if i meant to say what you thought i said your translation is pretty much exactly how i would have said it. mr. clinton!! mr. clinton come on out now its ok..... thats right the hearings are over youre a former president now. its ok you can stop talking.... thwippppsound of tranq dart hitting muscle ok boys on three lets get him in the truck. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. does it not have a 7 year power train warranty. even if it did thats a limited extension to the warranty gotta read the fine print. there is always the fine print. i dont know if the lemon law applies to that or not most lemon laws are restricted to the first 2 or 3 years or 24000-36000 miles varies by state. here in nj for example its 2/24k. there is no state that has a lemon law that extends out 5 years... thats just rediculous. why should it be ridiculous if they warranty it for 7 years then they damn well should be forced to honor it and if they cant then they should either replace it or give the owner his money back. what exactly is the purpose of a warranty if they have no intention of honoring it. that is why i asked. but thats it - you didnt ask. asking would be would that be covered under your states lemon law. your question why dont you just go after them under the lemon law and get your money back reads to me anyway hey idiot - just hire an attorney and sue them for your money. heres another example the funny thing here is that your comprehension of what i said really doesnt mean anything and btw was wrong. if i meant to say what you thought i said your translation is pretty much exactly how i would have said it. poster my transmission wont shift into overdrive. me why dont you just put some kerosene in it to clean it out you hey moron that isnt going to fix his problem me well i didnt know - thats why i asked. now - in that example was i really asking if kerosene in the atf would fix his problem or was i just being completely ignorant about the situation and assuming i knew a lot more than i did lol i dont know only you can really answer that one. since we have no idea why the transmission would not shift into overdrive your example is kinda dumb. now if the poster said that the fluid was gunked up and the trans would not shift into od then your response could possibly be a question as to if a cleanout would clear the problem. in my case the lemon law does exist to help with this specific problem unable to repair the same warranty item multiple times and what i asked was a question as to would it work for him since the drive train the part still under warranty was the problem. denny answered it clearly and to the point. there was simply no need for a response like garys other than he just likes being an asshole. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tom lawrence

would assume many things have oils that will exchange with the cooking oil and you will not be able to get it out but on the good side many say that it actually smells good unlike diesel -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving could something like that be filtered out how small are these particles im sure little bits of potato cant be all that good for the engine. i would think that it is the residual smell from the food that was cooked in the used oil. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving there recently were two stories in the connecticut press about burning used cooking oil the first was a woman who was burning waste cooking oil from chinese restrauants... all positive press the second was two- three weeks ago where a guy in winsted ct had converted his vw bug to burn waste cooking oil and a black bear trashed the rear window to get to the oil smell. picture in the paper showed a car i wouldnt wantto drive tochurch in on sunday but he supossedly got great milage when th think heated up and he converted from disel to french fry oil. the down side is his neighbors complained whenever he came home because everyone ended up smelling like they worked at bugger king. jem could the smell be from the oil not burning hot enough or is that just the inherent smell of cooking oil it would be interesting to see a comparison between used cooking oil and fresh cooking oil. . 222 302025 qanue.10407$bn3.111630@twister.southeast.rr.com but is the number has no value other than 0 please indicate any other number that has no value. imaginary numbers excluded for this exercise please now ya see. you just get done yelling at me about continuing with the conversation and then you try to continue it yourself. that was an incorrect choice of words. i meant to say no meaning. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tom lawrence

does it not have a 7 year power train warranty. even if it did thats a limited extension to the warranty gotta read the fine print. there is always the fine print. i dont know if the lemon law applies to that or not most lemon laws are restricted to the first 2 or 3 years or 24000-36000 miles varies by state. here in nj for example its 2/24k. there is no state that has a lemon law that extends out 5 years... thats just rediculous. why should it be ridiculous if they warranty it for 7 years then they damn well should be forced to honor it and if they cant then they should either replace it or give the owner his money back. what exactly is the purpose of a warranty if they have no intention of honoring it. that is why i asked. but thats it - you didnt ask. asking would be would that be covered under your states lemon law. your question why dont you just go after them under the lemon law and get your money back reads to me anyway hey idiot - just hire an attorney and sue them for your money. heres another example the funny thing here is that your comprehension of what i said really doesnt mean anything and btw was wrong. if i meant to say what you thought i said your translation is pretty much exactly how i would have said it. poster my transmission wont shift into overdrive. me why dont you just put some kerosene in it to clean it out you hey moron that isnt going to fix his problem me well i didnt know - thats why i asked. now - in that example was i really asking if kerosene in the atf would fix his problem or was i just being completely ignorant about the situation and assuming i knew a lot more than i did lol i dont know only you can really answer that one. since we have no idea why the transmission would not shift into overdrive your example is kinda dumb. now if the poster said that the fluid was gunked up and the trans would not shift into od then your response could possibly be a question as to if a cleanout would clear the problem. in my case the lemon law does exist to help with this specific problem unable to repair the same warranty item multiple times and what i asked was a question as to would it work for him since the drive train the part still under warranty was the problem. denny answered it clearly and to the point. there was simply no need for a response like garys other than he just likes being an asshole. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

sure it does. it brings forth the torque it received from the tc which brings forth the torque it received from the engine. transmitts and brings forth mean pretty much the same thing here. nope. not at all. the converter converts and the transmission transmits nothing more nothing less. your usual grab at semantics to save your sorry knowledge base isnt working. sorry max but you are the true master od semantics. in order for the converter to even get its name it has to convert or produce something. that is one error for you. the transmission also both transmitts but also converts and changes which also has it producing something thats two wrong for you. nope not the same thing at all. the convertor converts really what does it convert and what does it convert it to gary went over this with you. i read it you should have too. and converting is just another way of producing something. thanks for agreeing with me. sure it does. it brings forth the torque from the engine and brings forth more of it than what it received so in a way it grew builds makes or p r o d u c e s more torque than it receives. nope. cant do that. the engine can but the trans cannot put out more than it gets in. lol neither can an engine or anything else for that matter or you would have perpetual motion. while it cant put out more than it gets in it can use one thing to produce something else and in this case it consumes rpm to produce more torque. consumes rpm geez... never heard of that one before.... for the record rpm is merely a measurement of velocity rpms have zero energy. lol actually it is a measurement of angular velocity and anything that has a velocity contains energy which can be consumed or used to produce something else. rpms are just a unit of measure. you can jump on the semantics if you want but it really doesnt do much for your credibility. methinks you need to hit the library for some serious research. ditto -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : beekeep

on wed 22 jun 2005 194302 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote and the other wheels were chalked with what no matter what the color i dont think chaulk chalk would do much to hold a vehicle. wheel chocks on the other hand would be a very good idea beats drawing a line in the sand anyway... mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : beekeep

lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on wed 22 jun 2005 123604 gmt transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote on wed 22 jun 2005 112017 gmt transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% just like 3 / 2 = 1.5 not 150. you are truly math impaired since when does 0.03 / 0.02 = 0.015 do the math boy and stop making an ass of yourself care to try again i dont have to try again you just made my point far my forcefully than i ever could have ! thanks for playing chump ! it must really suck to be you. beekeep oh i get it its hard to type while you are on your knees with your mouth full. beekeep .

From : max dodge

does the lemon law not apply to the drive train warranty as well -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving nope. 3/36 only if i remember correctly. denny .

From : tbone

lots of people looked and checked every thing front to back no brake lights still any suggestions .

From : ignoramus13822

11.8 mpg on a 3/4 ton....sounds about right to me but then again i may just be used to feeding that v10 and my heavy foot! i just bought a 2005 power wagon 2500. i have only driven it 200 km on the highway now since i got it a few days ago and the computer says i am getting 11.8 mpg. this sounds really bad. my window sticker did not show an epa rating and when i called the dealer they just said that it will get the same as the 1500 with hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer. anybody else out there driving a 2500 ram with hemi that can tell me what kind of city/hwy gas mileage i can expect i imagine that the gas mileage will increase after break in period of the truck right i am also planning on towing a 5500 lb dry travel trailer across country with it and was hoping for 10 mpg with that but if it is 11.8 mpg with no load i am concerned ! .

From : ignoramus13822

sorry trans....but if you go down to staples...im sure theyd be more than happy to sell you a calculator. the calculator would prove gary correct. 3/2 = 1.5 but 3% .03 / 2% .02 = 150% 1.5 some people need to realize that percentages are expressed differently when written as decimals. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. sorry trans....but if you go down to staples...im sure theyd be more than happy to sell you a calculator. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% yep 100% correct. - nope if you ask real nice ill give you a hint to where you wnt wrong fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy math any way you try and spin it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

it wouldnt but what does this have to do with anything. these two numbers will always = 1.5 when divided this way regardless or the units or the size unless like you did ya put a % in back of it. at that point youve written .015 not 1.5 your problem is that you dont understand relationships between the numbers. and while i hesitate to explain this because i know you will not understand ill give it a shot. if i have 100 objects on the counter and i toss 2 of them in the can ive gotten rid of 2%. if i now toss out 3 of another set of 100 ive gotten rid of 3%. now i go into the trash and i find 2 objects in one can and 3 in the other. by percentage there are 50% more objects in the can with 3 objects than the can with 2 objects. you are hung up on the objects on the counter when its the stuff in the can you should be worried about. remember its not the dirt on the filter thats harming the engine its the dirt that gets through. yup its 50% more objects in the can just like its 50% more dirt getting through. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% just like 3 / 2 = 1.5 not 150. you are truly math impaired sorry gary that would be you. since when does 0.03 / 0.02 = 0.015 it wouldnt but what does this have to do with anything. these two numbers will always = 1.5 when divided this way regardless or the units or the size provided that they are the same iow .0000003 / .0000002 = 1.5 just like 3000000 / 2000000 = 1.5. the reason that it is fuzzy math is because you are playing with the units to make the equation say what you want it too rather than the actual value of 1.5 iow fuzzy math. do the math boy and stop making an ass of yourself i did and the answer is always 1.5 and btw thanks for proving my point on two levels. 1. you dont stop posting when you think that you are right 2. this really is nothing but fuzzy math. care to try again i dont have to try again you just made my point far my forcefully than i ever could have ! thanks for playing chump ! back to name calling i see. how did max put it oh yea the first sign of a losing argument. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : ignoramus13822

on wed 22 jun 2005 201451 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on wed 22 jun 2005 182258 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote yes but now you are doing conversions. you are converting from a percent to a whole number and that in itself makes it fuzzy. thats not so. percentages are not fuzzy. 1 definition a percent is 1/100. 1/100 of what. sounds fuzzy to me. is it not 1/100 of something it is simply 1/100 or 0.01. one percent is the same as number 0.01. actually a percent is a ration whose second term is 100 and like any ratio if it has no value attributed to it it means nothing. now when people say one percent of something that means that something multiplied by one percent or 1/100. that means that one percent of something is one hundredth of something. and 1/100 of nothing is simply nothing. 2 definition one percent of something is that something multiplied by 1/100. please define something. still sounds a bit fuzzy. the above is a rule. it means that if you are asked to calculate one percent of a given number you would need to compute that given number divided by 100. but is the number has no value neither does the derived percentage and if we dont know from what the percentage was derived from to begin with at best it is a fuzzy if not completely meaningless. for example if you were asked to calculate one percent of a given number 500 you would divide 500 by 100 and get 5. and if i simply told you i would give you 1% without mentioning the 500 would you have any idea what the final value would be therefore a percent of a percent is 1/100 multiplied by 1/100 or 1/10000 or 0.01%. but what does this equate to in the real world oh yea nothing. what i explained is exactly what percents are defined to be in the real world. percentages without the values they are derived from are nothing more than percentages and have no value. for example 20% of 20% is 20/100 multiplied by 20/100 or 400/10000 or 4/100 or 4%. 4% of what and in relation to what sorry still fuzzy. all of the above is defined quite precisely and there is no degree of fuzziness. it is not so much in the definition as it is in the usage. if percentages are given without the numbers that they are derived form they can be nothing but fuzzy. a number is an idea. and ideas can be fuzzy. a percent is also an idea and it also happens to be a number 1/100. a percentage is an abstraction of an idea and if not clearly defined... i hope that you realize that all percentages are fuzzy by nature because they dont truly represent anything other than a ratio and when you divide multiple percentages you even further distort the truth. percentages are a simple pre-algebra notion and are quite simply and precisely defined. and in their simplicity they can be used in the most fuzzy of manors. quite possibly. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : ignoramus13822

does it not have a 7 year power train warranty. even if it did thats a limited extension to the warranty gotta read the fine print. i dont know if the lemon law applies to that or not most lemon laws are restricted to the first 2 or 3 years or 24000-36000 miles varies by state. here in nj for example its 2/24k. there is no state that has a lemon law that extends out 5 years... thats just rediculous. that is why i asked. but thats it - you didnt ask. asking would be would that be covered under your states lemon law. your question why dont you just go after them under the lemon law and get your money back reads to me anyway hey idiot - just hire an attorney and sue them for your money. heres another example poster my transmission wont shift into overdrive. me why dont you just put some kerosene in it to clean it out you hey moron that isnt going to fix his problem me well i didnt know - thats why i asked. now - in that example was i really asking if kerosene in the atf would fix his problem or was i just being completely ignorant about the situation and assuming i knew a lot more than i did p.s. - 150% .

From : tbone

on wed 22 jun 2005 174139 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote 3 / 2 = 1.5 thats correct. and when you can disprove that then you win and until then it is just fuzzy math. while 3 may be 150% more than 2 thats incorrect. it can be said that 3 is 150% of 2 or that 3 is 50% greater than 2. lol and i made that same argument more than once my mistake. 3 / 2 is still only 1.5 regardless of the units attached to those numbers. correct. 1.5 is the same as 150%. the rule is actually simple a percent is 1/100. i know that but a percentage of a percentage is just fuzzy math. i never said that the math was incorrect which is something that gary just doesnt seem to get. it is called fuzzy math because it doesnt always accurately represent a given situation. small percentages can sometimes reflect huge numeric differences and microscopic differences can be reflected with huge percentages both of which can deceive the person reading them especially if the percentage is all that they see. no you wrote 3% / 2% = 1.5 % you really need to stop digging its not helping .

From : transurgeon

how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% .

From : tbone

got around 15 mpg with it on the road and he is not a slow driver and the power was good too. with the dmax he has now he is getting 18.5 mpg with same driving and in both cases the trip mpg monitor was clos to actuall mpg when it was filled up. if max mpg is your goal in a dodge towing go for a cummins with a 6 speed and skip the automatic. -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/dodge-ram-2500-gas-mileage-hemi-ftopict125671.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=612136 . 222 301947 1612077c29c7313df134236c76248391d6c1ebf@autoforumz.com newrvguy wrote i just bought a 2005 power wagon 2500. i have only driven it 200 km on the highway now since i got it a few days ago and the computer says i am getting 11.8 mpg. this sounds really bad. my window sticker did not show an epa rating and when i called the dealer they just said that it will get the same as the 1500 with hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer. anybody else out there driving a 2500 ram with hemi that can tell me what kind of city/hwy gas mileage i can expect i imagine that the gas mileage will increase after break in period of the truck right i am also planning on towing a 5500 lb dry travel trailer across country with it and was hoping for 10 mpg with that but if it is 11.8 mpg with no load i am concerned ! i have never talked to anyone with a hemi in a big truck that did not get poor mpg and there is a couple of reasons for that. one is the engines power band its rating looks impressive on paper and in ads but a engine that peaks it torque at over 4000 rpm and hp above 5000 rpm is not going to play well in a heavy rv because relative to its implied hp rating the avalible torque at lower rpms and engine efficency is not great. a gm 6.0 for example while having a lower hp rating has a lower rpm hp and torque peak with better low rpm efficency and does a lot better in a heavy rv the second problem is that dodge in their infinate wisdom left out the ability and possibility of have a front axle disconnect or lockout hubs to cut front axle power loss when it 2wd. the front axle and diff is always turning and that will cost you at least 1 mpg or so on the average and a bit more when it is colder or speeds are very high. i am sorry to say there is not magic fix here. i will never understand why chrysler did not spend another 100 bucks on 35k truck to enable and include the installation of lockout hubs to disengage axle in 2wd. it can only be for saving money and simpling 4wd operation but it is not mpg freindly on highway. back 30 years ago when i first started driving 4x4s you could tell when the hubs were not disengaged in general performace at speed and mpg too. if you plan to travel a lot the dodge 4x4 is not a good choice mpg wise with hemi and you would do better with a ford or chevy. even the old v10 would do about the same mpg wise as the new hemi but it would tow like crazy too and badly embrass the higher rated hemi in towing performance. it is sad that you have two choices in your truck a 5.7 or a cummins and nothing in the middle. -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/dodge-ram-2500-gas-mileage-hemi-ftopict125671.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=612077 .

From : tbone

on wed 22 jun 2005 145431 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% just like 3 / 2 = 1.5 not 150. you are truly math impaired sorry gary that would be you. since when does 0.03 / 0.02 = 0.015 it wouldnt but what does this have to do with anything. these two numbers will always = 1.5 when divided this way regardless or the units or the size provided that they are the same iow .0000003 / .0000002 = 1.5 just like 3000000 / 2000000 = 1.5. the reason that it is fuzzy math is because you are playing with the units to make the equation say what you want it too rather than the actual value of 1.5 iow fuzzy math. perhaps a better defense would be the battery must have been low in my slide rule. just let it go and dr. greasemonkey will think he is the superior intellect. then he will disapear for awhile while he reads thousands of posts looking for a mistake or typo so he can do it all over again and give his selfesteem a boost. beekeep .

From : transurgeon

hahahaha a lever by definition is a shaft or solid length of material attached to some pivot point or fulcrum moron. http//www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/lever um its a shaft ok.... mech. a rigid piece which is capable of turning about one point or axis the fulcrum and in which are two or more other points where forces are applied; - used for transmitting and modifying force and motion. specif. a bar of metal wood or other rigid substance used to exert a pressure or sustain a weight at one point of its length by receiving a force or power at a second and turning at a third on a fixed point called a fulcrum. it is usually named as the first of the six mechanical powers and is of three kinds according as either the fulcrum f the weight w or the power p respectively is situated between the other two as in the figures. show us the word shaft in that definition. the rigid piece could be a shaft but i see that you are probably referring to the shaft as the fulcrum. i never said a lever did not have a pivot point. in fact the lever does have a pivot point but that pivot point is not the lever it is the pivot point. dont confuse the two. actually max a lever is a simple machine and the pivot point is what makes the rigid object a lever and it simply cannot exist without it. a force on the lever causes it to rotate on its pivot point and that maxi is torque. http//www.physics.uoguelph.ca/tutorials/torque/q.torque.intro.html notice how the drawing depicts the lever as attached to a shaft sorta like i said it had to be. hahahahahaha you just dont understand models. notice that they call it a pivot point not a shaft because it could be anything that allows the arm to rotate or pivot. the model is only concerned with the torque being created at the pivot point from a force or group of forces on a single moment arm. if you are using a lever you would create another moment arm and calculate the torque there as well and then combine the values to get the net result. back to school with you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

now ya see. you just get done yelling at me about continuing with the conversation and then you try to continue it yourself. the difference is i never claimed i was finished... you did... hypocrit .

From : miles

the guy who rebuilt the carb for me said that the reason the truck took so long to crank when it had been sitting on an incline was that old fuel pumps lose their seal allowing the gas to slowly run back down toward the tank. i dont know how much pressure i have; when i checked the flow i held a regular plastic cup and the stream of fuel was hitting the center from just outside the edge 2-3 inches. anything else i need to check .

From : max dodge

and i expected nothing less than name calling by you. btw guys i get 5 points for the little mind comment. who is at the top of the leader board right now -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. only in your little mind max but i expected nothing less. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving doesnt appear to matter what the subject of the thread is you are incorrect on both counts. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. sorry max but the percentage thing isnt the subject of the thread. but hey ill admit that i wasnt paying attention and got the percentage thing wrong as far as the 3% / 2% thing wrong big deal. the fuzzy math thing is still correct and is also not the subject of the thread at least not the intended subject. the actual subject was garys attack on a poster about being accurate on the inability of production of torque from a transmission and then went on to prove himself wrong. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving as is your defeat in the actual thread subject. tbone wins!!! he gets the tbone math answer as his share of the goods.....so lets see.... 3% / 2% = 1.5% gary will get the real math share at..... 3% / 2% = 150% winner tbone.... wait um..... tbone ya wanna calculate that again -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. ignoramus13822 ignoramus13822@nospam.13822.invalid wrote in message on wed 22 jun 2005 174139 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote 3 / 2 = 1.5 thats correct. and when you can disprove that then you win and until then it is just fuzzy math. while 3 may be 150% more than 2 thats incorrect. it can be said that 3 is 150% of 2 or that 3 is 50% greater than 2. lol and i made that same argument more than once my mistake. 3 / 2 is still only 1.5 regardless of the units attached to those numbers. correct. 1.5 is the same as 150%. the rule is actually simple a percent is 1/100. i know that but a percentage of a percentage is just fuzzy math. i never said that the math was incorrect which is something that gary just doesnt seem to get. it is called fuzzy math because it doesnt always accurately represent a given situation. small percentages can sometimes reflect huge numeric differences and microscopic differences can be reflected with huge percentages both of which can deceive the person reading them especially if the percentage is all that they see. no you wrote 3% / 2% = 1.5 % you really need to stop digging its not helping and you really need to stop proving my point. like i said when you think that you are right you fight like hell even to the point of starting all new threads on the subject. where are the threads or even responses on the origional quadcab thread point made conversation over. your surrender is noted as is your defeat in the actual thread subject. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : beekeep

ill call this a cautionary tale. the jack for my 2002 ram 1500 just broke while in use. its second use. get yourself a decent bottle jack and stash it in the cab somewhere. i will not replace this jack with another identical dodge jack its a poor design weak and hard to use. thankfully i was on my driveway when it broke not on the side of the road. it rolled very slowly forward - i was behind it. still damn scary! it came to rest with the hub on the inside rim of the spare and didnt bend anything. dont have to buy a brake rotor! my neighbor has a floor jack i can borrow. i know i need to get my own! .