T-Bone for Pres.

From : denny

Q: but that was a f t e r the storm and supplies should have been ready before it hit and were not. the storm was 100 miles wide and affected an area larger than the state of mississippi. where would you put supplies and troops if you were the governor of any of these states keep in mind the ng troops will be affected by the storm so calling them up will take time. getting the troops to their gathering points will take time due to the storm. once gathered they wil lhave to organize and go back 50-100 miles. it takes time. the first ng troops locals were on scene wednesday unarmed though they were because their weapons were moved north to keep them out of harms way. day 1 saturday - assessment and assumption of probable needs. based on what storm size storm size possible landfall locations probability of levee failures due to there age as well as the strength of the storm number of people that have no way out of the area. hell the national guard should have been mobilized friday to begin moving some of these people the hell out of there. ok lets assume all this is factored in. the mayor and the governor are the ones who have to do this. they are the leadership that knows these details. so who are you blaming for it unlike others in here i am not blaming the president for everything that went wrong. i would agree that the mayor and the governor have the most blame on them but either way this took way to long. day 2 sunday - logistical planning and gathering of supplies and personnel based on above. gathered where in the city yea like the astro dome and inland away from the flood prone areas. sure there is a risk of losing some of them but at least there would be something where and when it was needed. ok the astrodome is 350 miles away meaning it would take a day to get them to the astrodome and a day to get back. lol a helicopter could fly that trip in less than 3 hours. then again they could have stored some of it in the convention center where they told many of the people to go anyway where they waited for nothing with nothing. so youve added at least a day to the mobilization. remember these people are supposed to be local so either you respect that they need to care for their family or you take in the whole family while they are mobilized. either one adds time. lol they should have been mobilized before the storm hit and their families should have evacuated just like everyone else was asked to do so sorry max no extra time required. day 3 monday - reassess situation and needs. begin initial deployment during the storm the storm was out of there by monday afternoon. yeah it was going through the area where all these ng troops live. like i said before they should have already been mobilized. day 4 tuesday - full deployment to region with what is needed or available based on prior assessment while gathering any additional supplies and personnel that may also be needed. begin initial operations. day 5 wednesday - operation fully commences! wow five days instead of the three i claimed. brilliantly proving that three days is great response time. you are aware that uscg and military helos were on scene by tuesday right wow a few helos with no supplies at all. what happened to monday night and all fucking day tuesday considering that the helos came from the affected area proper time has to be taken to check for storm damage. according to you all aircraft had been removed from the strile zone prior to the storm so exactly what damage did they incure by tuesday uscg was pulling people from rooftops. priority is given to lifesaving rescues particularly in the case of the uscg. they were still doing this on thursday thus they were still on priority one. lol those peope are in no worse danger than everyone else without food water or shelter and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. small boats could also deal with these rescues leaving the uscg to deliver needed food and water. three days to get on scene and operational. not bad. yes it was because many of your steps should have been done before the storm even hit. by tuesday they should have been ready to roll with something. even if its possible the people who make that a reality are the local governments and the governor. where did i say otherwise. but the president still should have had his ass back in the white house sunday afternoon knowing the impending disaster and his staying on vacation was a major mistake.. like i said a day late with nothing. they should have been there monday night dropping initial supplies that were stored before the storm like water and some food. sorry max but your lame justifications and bs time line simply dont cut it. sorry tbone but your insistance that the uscg is a relief agency fails to take into account their primary mission is to

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From : frank

the 9/11 commission pointed to major flaws in our intewlligence agencies. this isnt the failure of a single president but an entire sytem of government and its use of confirmed knowledge. blaming bush for 9/11 is as stupid as blaming him for hurricane damage. lest you think im simply some republican defending yet another politician you might want to look at all i have to say not just my rebuttal to your ill informed rubbish. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. bushbaby wrote probably because you dont want your god bush to look bad in any possible way how can he not look bad to anyone other than the blind right-wing loyalist have you seen the 9/11 commission story on the history channel what a goob. image -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bushbaby wrote probably because you dont want your god bush to look bad in any possible way how can he not look bad to anyone other than the blind right-wing loyalist have you seen the 9/11 commission story on the history channel what a goob. .

From : max dodge

hi everyone. im new here and know little about vehicle repairs so bear with me. a few days ago my aftermarket radio died so i pulled it out and cut the wires right next to the radio untangled them and seperated the adapter clips. now i have no gauges working nor does the interior light work although the gauges light up when the headlights are turned on. i installed a factory radio thinking that would fix the problem and it didnt. the factory radio buttons light up with the head lights but it has no display. the fuses in the dash look alright as do the fuses under the hood. any ideas my mechanic is stumped too. i should mention that a few years ago i hit a pothole and the gauges and lights quit working then as did the radio. my mechanic at the time got the gauges to work but the radio was shot and thats how i ended up with the aftermarket. .

From : denny

any idea what to try next cleaning then replacing the iac didnt phase the problem p0307 literally within 2-3 miles of clearing it but -always- occurring at low rpm. if i clear the code and then watch my rpms close kick it into neutral before coming to a stop and maintain idle above 1000 rpm it wont occur and the truck runs smooth as silk all day long. im about ready to take it to the dealer but am hesitant to at this point because im afraid they may want to re-do everything weve already done and charge accordingly. thinking more about this in retrospect i honestly believe this problem all the way back 18 months or so when it initially started may have always been occurring at low rpms but i didnt pick up on that until we saw it doing it in the shop a few weeks ago. im also beginning to question now if when i swapped injectors if theres a chance i mabye got em mixed up and put them back the same way they came out. dyslexia runs in the family so i guess the question here would be if it is at all possible for this to be an injector problem yet only show up at low idle thanks!! .

From : tbone

on mon 05 sep 2005 165330 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on sun 04 sep 2005 163908 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote where did i say otherwise. but the president still should have had his ass back in the white house sunday afternoon knowing the impending disaster and his staying on vacation was a major mistake.. you idiot! think about what you just said! with modern communications exactly what could bush not have done at crawford tx that he could have done at the white house no spin no backpedal.... just give us the answer o genius! fuck you mike. he should have returned to the white house for appearance sake alone. if he could do everything from his texas home there would be no need for the white house at all now would there. he was elected by the people to lead this country and when it is about to be ravaged by this type of storm he should be back at his post. despite modern communications it is not now or ever will be as good as being were he is needed talking face to face with the people that he needs to talk to and giving the apperance to the country that he cares and things will get done not that he will get there when he has the chance after his vactaion. fuck you mike yeah i sure dont understand why no one around here likes you. yea he can call me an idiot for speaking my opinion but thats ok huh. yeah in this case the truth is a defense. as for the response to the katrina it was terrible. we thought that we had our planning down but this really shows how much work we have to do. why you blame bush for that is beyond me though. the local state and federal response isnt lead by bush but rather by americans who are supposed to have their shit together. i suspect this will be a wake up call and that there will be some changes. look at beekeeps video. is it bushs fault that two cops where in that walmart looting no bush isnt at fault here you idiot. it was other peoples jobs to get this done not bush. now what i expect bush to do is to kick a whole of ass fire some people and get some people in there that can get the job done. what is it with you fucking retards. where did i say that the entire fault or even 1/5 of the fault is your god bushs you will not be able to answer this because i never said it. sure bush is not completely without blame and there are a few things that he should have done or saw to it being done by he people responsible prior to the storms landfall but he is far from the only one at fault. his major screw-up is in presentation as in not getting back to the white house until long after the disaster and his demeanor when he did give his speech about the efforts being done. he really has to lose that dumb looking smirk when he is under stress. kind of like the dumb sounding tone to your posts huh no different than yours -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : coasty uscgretspooge comcast net

where did i say otherwise. but the president still should have had his ass back in the white house sunday afternoon knowing the impending disaster and his staying on vacation was a major mistake.. you idiot! think about what you just said! with modern communications exactly what could bush not have done at crawford tx that he could have done at the white house no spin no backpedal.... just give us the answer o genius! fuck you mike. he should have returned to the white house for appearance sake alone. if he could do everything from his texas home there would be no need for the white house at all now would there. he was elected by the people to lead this country and when it is about to be ravaged by this type of storm he should be back at his post. despite modern communications it is not now or ever will be as good as being were he is needed talking face to face with the people that he needs to talk to and giving the apperance to the country that he cares and things will get done not that he will get there when he has the chance after his vactaion. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

the check engine light was on but i took it in to have the inspection and breaks done and the light was off when i picked it up get someone to scan for any codes - particularly any relating to governor pressure. breaks done and the light was off when i picked it up.im not sure what you mean about tv cable adjusted properly the tv throttle valve cable is a cable attached to the throttle linkage and controls the throttle valve on the transmission. it basically increases line pressure in the transmission as more throttle is applied. if its adjusted too loose you can get problems like you describe. there should be no slack in the tv cable - it should begin to move as soon as the throttle begins to open. have you checked the adjustment on the bands when you did the fluid change .

From : denny

food for thought........ http//realclearpolitics.com/commentary/com-9405ds.html http//realclearpolitics.com/commentary/com-9405sc.html http//www.investors.com/editorial/ibdarticles.aspartsec=20 although it will likely make no difference since many have already made their minds up in spite of the facts.. mike .

From : roy

and you know that every one of them were no tom - i dont know... i have no fucking clue just like you. the difference is i dont spout off like i do know pointing out everything that was done wrong and how it could have been so much better. lol you are becomming a real ass anymore. so much for the low noise level. the fact is that things were done wrong and could have been done much better even if you dont want to hear it. do you think that the best job possible has been done so far no and it never is. your expectations of perfection will always be missed... therefore always giving you an opportunity to piss and moan. maybe theres a reason for that.... so should people sit silently and say nothing when things were done obviously wrong as for pissing and moaning i am not the only one with this opinion but yet seem to be the only one you are whining at. maybe theres a reason for that.... you make the claim that there are swamps in the way but they have always been there and are a way of life for the people that live near them and they have equipment to deal with it. they dont routinely transport thousands of tons of supplies across them now do they tom no - they usually bring in things via i-10 which if you havent noticed is sitting at the bottom of the fucking lake. other roads under water. the airport closed to all traffic - and unless you were coming in with a j3 cub on floats you werent landing. lol i just said that they had ways through the swamps. stop crying about it. most of this stuff should have already been in the area since they had a few days to plan for it before the storm. as for thousands of tons even hundreds of pounds would be hundreds of pounds more than what they did do. the situation is currently being handled i probably could do a better job put your money where your mouth is pal.... go make it all better. too late now the damage is done. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

but that was a f t e r the storm and supplies should have been ready before it hit and were not. the storm was 100 miles wide and affected an area larger than the state of mississippi. where would you put supplies and troops if you were the governor of any of these states keep in mind the ng troops will be affected by the storm so calling them up will take time. getting the troops to their gathering points will take time due to the storm. once gathered they wil lhave to organize and go back 50-100 miles. it takes time. the first ng troops locals were on scene wednesday unarmed though they were because their weapons were moved north to keep them out of harms way. day 1 saturday - assessment and assumption of probable needs. based on what storm size storm size possible landfall locations probability of levee failures due to there age as well as the strength of the storm number of people that have no way out of the area. hell the national guard should have been mobilized friday to begin moving some of these people the hell out of there. ok lets assume all this is factored in. the mayor and the governor are the ones who have to do this. they are the leadership that knows these details. so who are you blaming for it unlike others in here i am not blaming the president for everything that went wrong. i would agree that the mayor and the governor have the most blame on them but either way this took way to long. day 2 sunday - logistical planning and gathering of supplies and personnel based on above. gathered where in the city yea like the astro dome and inland away from the flood prone areas. sure there is a risk of losing some of them but at least there would be something where and when it was needed. ok the astrodome is 350 miles away meaning it would take a day to get them to the astrodome and a day to get back. lol a helicopter could fly that trip in less than 3 hours. then again they could have stored some of it in the convention center where they told many of the people to go anyway where they waited for nothing with nothing. so youve added at least a day to the mobilization. remember these people are supposed to be local so either you respect that they need to care for their family or you take in the whole family while they are mobilized. either one adds time. lol they should have been mobilized before the storm hit and their families should have evacuated just like everyone else was asked to do so sorry max no extra time required. day 3 monday - reassess situation and needs. begin initial deployment during the storm the storm was out of there by monday afternoon. yeah it was going through the area where all these ng troops live. like i said before they should have already been mobilized. day 4 tuesday - full deployment to region with what is needed or available based on prior assessment while gathering any additional supplies and personnel that may also be needed. begin initial operations. day 5 wednesday - operation fully commences! wow five days instead of the three i claimed. brilliantly proving that three days is great response time. you are aware that uscg and military helos were on scene by tuesday right wow a few helos with no supplies at all. what happened to monday night and all fucking day tuesday considering that the helos came from the affected area proper time has to be taken to check for storm damage. according to you all aircraft had been removed from the strile zone prior to the storm so exactly what damage did they incure by tuesday uscg was pulling people from rooftops. priority is given to lifesaving rescues particularly in the case of the uscg. they were still doing this on thursday thus they were still on priority one. lol those peope are in no worse danger than everyone else without food water or shelter and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. small boats could also deal with these rescues leaving the uscg to deliver needed food and water. three days to get on scene and operational. not bad. yes it was because many of your steps should have been done before the storm even hit. by tuesday they should have been ready to roll with something. even if its possible the people who make that a reality are the local governments and the governor. where did i say otherwise. but the president still should have had his ass back in the white house sunday afternoon knowing the impending disaster and his staying on vacation was a major mistake.. you idiot! think about what you just said! with modern communications exactly what could bush not have done at crawford tx that he could have done at the white house no spin no backpedal.... just give us the answer o genius! mike like i said a day late with nothing. they should have been there monday night dropping initial supplies that were

From : beekeep

gathered where in the city yea like the astro dome and inland away from the flood prone areas. ummm... tom oh great on-scene commander the one who could to a better job the astrodome is in houston. you might have wanted to locate your personnel and supplies in the superdome which is within the n.o. city limits. yea i got the name wrong get over it but even the astrodome less than 3 hours by helo would be better than where they had them which was knowwhere at all. if all you can do is bash me on a wrong name then your arguments are getting weak indeed. yeah i know... details.... like i said a day late with nothing. they should have been there monday night dropping initial supplies that were stored before the storm like water yeah - screw the people stranded on their rooftops with burning buildings around them... they should have been dropping supplies instead oh shit! hey - look out for that falling... splat. whoops helicopters can perform precision drops if they actually have something to drop you do know that right as for the people stranded on their roofs they can be rescued by small boats and the helicopters between supply drops. i guess that you would rather screw the masses that took the trouble and made the effort to help themselves to get to where they were told to go without any food or water supplied to them to help the idiots that decided to stick it out in their homes against the mandatory evacuation orders. yea that makes much more sense asshole. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : bushbaby

regarding your link laffinattheleft.blo ... i wont read that trash because by its very address marks it a right wing the truth hurts doesnt it .