Superoversized alternatrors in cars? Possible?

From : ignoramus4661

Q: do they offer an ext cab hemi i would prefer the clamshell doors over the quad cab. its not going to be a kid mover so being trapped is not an issue. it would be easier to throw my stuff in the ext cab then the quad cab plus i dont need a huge back seat. hey when are they putting that hemi in the dakota i would be first in line for that one. i can tell you what i did. traded in my 02 sierra 1500 4.8l extended cab 4 dr on an 03 dodge ram 1500 quad cab hemi. soooo glad i did. the hemi is a great engine and my last tankful not towing came out to 15 mpg. thats better than the sierra did in the first 1000 miles. the quad cab is much better than the extended cab. the doors open wide and you never get trapped in between clamshell doors while in a parking lot. hd in ny .

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From : tbone

that sounds like 32 mph around sawgrass mills. ive seen days that people would have been passing you! doug hey no kidding! ive got three stores i designed in there. funny to see that stuff out of context. j .

From : leon skunkers

hello all! i have a 2002 dakota quad cab with 38600 miles. the other day i was installing an xm radio and had to pull the carpet back on the passenger side. lo and behold there was a huge puddle of water! after further investigation it appears to be coming from the condenser drain through the firewall. this is where it gets strange. i pulled the access plate to check the drain on the engine side of the firewall and theres about 1/2 of tube sticking straight out through the firewall. it appears the water is trickling out of the tube and running back into the cab. shouldnt there be an elbow and tube coming off of this stub if not it certainly looks like a design flaw. any ideas thanks brad .

From : gary glaenzer

on 15 aug 2003 182522 gmt ignoramus4661 ignoramus4661@nospam.4661.invalid wrote your present alternator already generates over 1 kw 130 amps at 12 v = 1560 watts wow. so it means that i could easily connect a big inverter to the battery posts and draw say 800 watts at idle would that be safe my truck does have a heavy duty package i did not think about it. my primary use for such an inverter would be to power the furnace blower and maybe a tv or a computer or a radio. obviously only the furnace blower consumes significant power. in summer i could use it to power our two refrigerators. so i am talking about a 300-700 watt real load. thanks you can get alternators that produce both ac and dc current. one i saw put out about 4500 watts a/c. guy i knew built log cabins and used it to run tools at his jobsites. try to find out where he got it if you are interested. dont think it cost anywhere near as much as an inverter with that sort of output would have. .

From : trey

i have a 99 dakota sport cc 4x4 it has the 5.2. it would sure be nice with an extra 100-150 hp trey wrote do they offer an ext cab hemi i would prefer the clamshell doors over the quad cab. its not going to be a kid mover so being trapped is not an issue. it would be easier to throw my stuff in the ext cab then the quad cab plus i dont need a huge back seat. hey when are they putting that hemi in the dakota i would be first in line for that one. snipped nope far as i know the quad replaced the extended cab. okay by me as the clamshell doors were a pain. lost 3 from bed length but nothing in overall length. besides if you get the std cab there is plenty of room behind the seats for stuff. a std cab ram short box is a good looking package. if they put the hemi in a std cab short box dakota itd be a bomb. i have enough trouble keeping my foot outa the carb now. one of those would greased lightning. vbg hd in ny .

From : ignoramus4661

just purchased 2003 dakota quad cab with the 4.7 engine. i had hoped to at least be able to do the first oil change myself. cant seem to spot the oil filter. please help! .

From : milesh

there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available .

From : trey

ignoramus4661 wrote there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available yes they are available. high end stereo enthusiasts use them. trouble is i would think your gas mileage would drop from having to turn a larger alternator. .

From : gary glaenzer

check out http//www.thepcshopper.com/aurasystems/ see if they have what you are looking for. there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available .

From : ignoramus4661

your present alternator already generates over 1 kw 130 amps at 12 v = 1560 watts there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available .

From : ignoramus4661

thanks. i saw such stuff for sale at various other websites also. i check out http//www.thepcshopper.com/aurasystems/ see if they have what you are looking for. there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available .

From : ignoramus4661

i know of a person with a later model v-10 with that computer. i think that it is a 2000 model. yes i know that it is not something that the mileage is not good but i would like to maximize the fuel efficiency for my load vs. rpm. tom haughton you sure you want to know how many gallons-per-mile you are getting in that truck i recall hearing mention of the computers being in the diesels. i dont know about 96 though. when was the model change i have a 96 dodge 2500 with a v-10. did chrysler offer a fuel economy display for this model year and if not would it be very difficult to retrofit one to this vehicle tom haughton .

From : ignoramus4661

on 15 aug 2003 182522 gmt ignoramus4661 ignoramus4661@nospam.4661.invalid wrote your present alternator already generates over 1 kw 130 amps at 12 v = 1560 watts wow. so it means that i could easily connect a big inverter to the battery posts and draw say 800 watts at idle would that be safe my truck does have a heavy duty package i did not think about it. my primary use for such an inverter would be to power the furnace blower and maybe a tv or a computer or a radio. obviously only the furnace blower consumes significant power. in summer i could use it to power our two refrigerators. so i am talking about a 300-700 watt real load. thanks you can get alternators that produce both ac and dc current. one i saw put out about 4500 watts a/c. guy i knew built log cabins and used it to run tools at his jobsites. try to find out where he got it if you are interested. dont think it cost anywhere near as much as an inverter with that sort of output would have. i would be interested yes. i .

From : gary glaenzer

these hours will not necessarily hurt the engine -- low power low rpm low temps. i if i was working with it every day i would rather get a purpose built generator in stead of putting all those operating hours on my trucks engine. what would use more fuel a 5000 watt generator or running the trucks engine with a 5000 generator under the hood then what is the cost difference between the under hood generator and an external one on 15 aug 2003 182522 gmt ignoramus4661 ignoramus4661@nospam.4661.invalid wrote your present alternator already generates over 1 kw 130 amps at 12 v = 1560 watts wow. so it means that i could easily connect a big inverter to the battery posts and draw say 800 watts at idle would that be safe my truck does have a heavy duty package i did not think about it. my primary use for such an inverter would be to power the furnace blower and maybe a tv or a computer or a radio. obviously only the furnace blower consumes significant power. in summer i could use it to power our two refrigerators. so i am talking about a 300-700 watt real load. thanks you can get alternators that produce both ac and dc current. one i saw put out about 4500 watts a/c. guy i knew built log cabins and used it to run tools at his jobsites. try to find out where he got it if you are interested. dont think it cost anywhere near as much as an inverter with that sort of output would have. .

From : ignoramus4661

conn laws were repealed in 98... you can use them now. me wrote snipped i believe that ny state and connecticut allow their possession but it is illegal to use them. washington dc and va ban their possession obviously that covers use as well. didnt think the use is illegal. do you have some proof of that as far as i know virginia and d.c. are the only banning states. use of a radio that can receive police signals is illegal in ny. hd in ny in the early 1980s i received a ticket for using a radar detector in connecticut merrit parkway. the state highway patrolman had a radar detector detector. dont know if its still the law or perhaps they are not enforcing it the ny assertion is hearsay. i have a friend who told me he saw signs on the ny state throughway going toward albany. .

From : trey

if you mean remote start im sure hello out there is it possible to have command start on the 2003 dodge ram quad 1500 hemi thanks larry .

From : bob ring

depending where you live sometimes changing your rear dif lube to a syn will help .

From : north

it can be set up to put out full power at idle you just use a really small pulley on the alternator itself for alot more turns at idle. then i would need a wider/thicker belt that is more tightly tensioned... the law of levers. i ignoramus4661 wrote there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available yes they are available. high end stereo enthusiasts use them. trouble is i would think your gas mileage would drop from having to turn a larger alternator. thank you. i did see some such alternators for sale on ebay. a question remains are they really as good as advertized. do they really say put 200 amps when the engine is idling. i would suppose that their effect on gas mileage should be minimal. a typical car engine or truck engine probably puts out something like 50-70 hp at highway speeds. the alternator if it is not really producing 2 kw of power would probably not use more than 1-2 hp which is not much. i i .

From : trey

i would highly recommend an auxiliary battery and an isolation circuit. get a yellow top optima or two and an isolator http//www.hellroaring.com/ then you can temporarily stop and start the truck while not having to worry about not having enough juice to start the truck again or causing a current drop deep enough to damage something.. and then you would have enough juice to run smaller items for longer stretches without the truck even running. thanks. my main need for generated power is my furnace/furnace blower which is a 1/3hp dc motor converted from 120vac. i assume that any shape of the voltage curve from the inverter would be ok for that application. 1/3hp is 250 watts. what this means therefore is that in the continuous mode it will consume 250 watts or about 25 amps of 12vdc allowing for some energy loss during inversion. for startup maybe 75 amps. fully within my heavy duty alternator that i have. i think that i will buy a 1.5 kw inverter like the ones sold on ebay and will connect it directly to the battery. i i have to agree with trey. although it could be done using your rams engine alternator and inverter a purposebuilt genset would be much more practical. it takes about 1.34 hp to generate 1kw of electrical power assuming no losses to generation conversion and line drop therefore you are using only a fraction of your rams horsepower for electrical power and the rest of the energy is being wasted. i would suspect that if you would price out the stuff to make your ram generate the power you want you could easily afford a genset with money left over. keep in mind that the inverter you require will have to be able to generate a nearly true sinusoidal wave form at 60hz for some of the equipment you have in mind to operate properly.... those types of inverters aint cheap! plus when you need to use your ram for transportation you lose you generating capacity and whatever you intend to power must be shut off. food for thought! chryco service manager member sae wrote on 15 aug 2003 182522 gmt ignoramus4661 ignoramus4661@nospam.4661.invalid wrote your present alternator already generates over 1 kw 130 amps at 12 v = 1560 watts wow. so it means that i could easily connect a big inverter to the battery posts and draw say 800 watts at idle would that be safe my truck does have a heavy duty package i did not think about it. my primary use for such an inverter would be to power the furnace blower and maybe a tv or a computer or a radio. obviously only the furnace blower consumes significant power. in summer i could use it to power our two refrigerators. so i am talking about a 300-700 watt real load. thanks you can get alternators that produce both ac and dc current. one i saw put out about 4500 watts a/c. guy i knew built log cabins and used it to run tools at his jobsites. try to find out where he got it if you are interested. dont think it cost anywhere near as much as an inverter with that sort of output would have. i would be interested yes. i .

From : leon skunkers

its already implemented. just look in the mirror. hence the word individual. no two people are exactly alike. - ever hear of identical twins they are exactly alike... hence the word identical. i beg to differ. they are not exactly alike. although the identical twins share the same genotype dna they have different phenotypes fingerprints physical appearance. hence this would make them different ie. individuals. i rest my case. .

From : erniegalts

probably cause you are in a fog most of the times. id love to take a small ball peen hammer to those either idiots who drive around with their fog lights on or to the lights. makes no diff to me maybe both on a good day wish i had drl. i always roll around with at least my fog lights on. .

From : redneck tookover hell

dick wrote midas wanted $300 installed for sens-atrac. dick sensatracs go for $35 each here at oreillys. midas must be making a killing. jerry .

From : gary glaenzer

on sat 16 aug 2003 074456 -0700 jim dauven jamesed@web-ster.com wrote the mathematical conversion from mechanical horsepower to electricity is 746 watts = 1 horsepower that 746 watts could be any combination of 1 volt at 746 amps to 746 volts at 1 amp. so if your alternator is a 60 amp alt at 14 volts the alternator needs to put out between 13.5 and 14 volts to charge a lead acid battery you need at least 60 amps x 14 volts == 840 watts / 746 == 1.12 horsepower if you add in the energy lost to friction slippage heat etc. then you are closer to 2 horse power to drive the average alternator. a dual alternator set up will give your 1700 watts at idle. the military went to 24 volt systems as an efficiency measure higher rotor coil energy creates a stronger magnetic field for the fields to be cut by so the alternator can put out more electricity from a smaller package. typical military alternators are 28 volt units at 60 amps which are not that much bigger than the 12 volt 60 amp unit yet put out twice the power. in heavy aircraft the alternators are 28 volt 300 or 400 amp 400 hz ac units. these units are just over 15 inches in diameter weigh in at about 30 lbs yet put out 8400 or 11000 watts. the 400 hz when rectified to dc user smaller rectification units and makes cleaner dc power than the common 60 hz ac of our house hold electricity when rectified to dc. 400 hz also allows for the use of smaller lighter and more efficient transformers. with two of these units with field coil selector switch alternators are not self excited so you need an external battery to drive the rotor coils you can use one or two of the units as you need. what you need is a 2 to 1 step down transformer and a rectifier to provide the dc power for the 12 volt really 13.5 volt lead acid batteries. no lead/acid cells produce two volts. a car battery uses six such cells in series. however the alternator has to provide a higher voltage to charge the battery and the voltage regulator is usually set to around 13.5 volts. a few words of warning in passing. disconnecting the battery or the wrong wire when the engine is running or not using care when welding vehicle components can cause the system voltage to rise beyond 13.5 volts. as many semiconductors are highly sensitive to overvoltages this can result in the instant obliteration of any connected devices using semiconductors. if blow all the semiconductors in your car radio stereo system cb or other transceiver it is usually cheaper to buy a new one than to replace all the damaged components. then the dc power has to be inverted back to 60 hz ac power and then back through a 9.5 to one step up transformer to get the 120 volt 60 hz ac power to drive common house hold or commercial gear. since you want ac power at the proper voltage and roughly the proper frequency why mess around with converting to dc then back to ac unless need the storage battery capacity. all such conversions are inefficient. be aware that 12 volt dc can start the excitation of the rotor but you need away to keep the 24 volts for the rotor excitation this occurs once the alternator starts running and the rotor gets its energy from the voltage regulator from bleeding back to the battery. so the bottom line is this whole thing is not as simple as it looks. it would be much simpler if the auto industry went from 12 volt systems to 24 volt system much like it did in the 50s when it went from 6 volt systems to 12 volt systems. yes it probably would but i suppose the main reason they dont is that car radios stereos cb & other transceivers motors fans electric bulbs etc are mostly designed for 13.5 volts maximum. considering the number of people who manage to destroy unprotected radios etc. using solid state devices by getting the polarity wrong when they install them i shudder to think how many devices could be destroyed by the owner of a car with a 24 volt system. not that 24 volt bulbs headlights etc are hard to get. many heavy trucks use 24 volt systems. however personally have never seen a car radio cb etc. designed for a 24 volt system. have to use a converter with them or tap into the battery at the proper point to get 12 volts. however a good post with some good tech info. some emergency vehicles such as ambulances used to be fitted with larger alternators and three phase transformers for running emergency rescue tools. possibly worth checking a wrecking yard for such gear the frequency and voltage output of an alternator depends on speed of rotation. however most power tools dont require exact voltages and frequency. the normal us power system is nominally 120 volts rms but the actual ac voltage probably varies from roughly 110 volts to 130 volts depending on how far you are from the transformer load on the system etc. most power tools and motors will run fine o

From : leon skunkers

for daily operation an external genset would be best for the three time a year i would need anything close to it though. i would just use the inverter... i have a little 140 watt inverter. i have never needed a bigger one. if i needed to use 5000 watts daily i would have a generator mounted in the bed though. i have to agree with trey. although it could be done using your rams engine alternator and inverter a purposebuilt genset would be much more practical. it takes about 1.34 hp to generate 1kw of electrical power assuming no losses to generation conversion and line drop therefore you are using only a fraction of your rams horsepower for electrical power and the rest of the energy is being wasted. i would suspect that if you would price out the stuff to make your ram generate the power you want you could easily afford a genset with money left over. keep in mind that the inverter you require will have to be able to generate a nearly true sinusoidal wave form at 60hz for some of the equipment you have in mind to operate properly.... those types of inverters aint cheap! plus when you need to use your ram for transportation you lose you generating capacity and whatever you intend to power must be shut off. food for thought! chryco service manager member sae wrote on 15 aug 2003 182522 gmt ignoramus4661 ignoramus4661@nospam.4661.invalid wrote your present alternator already generates over 1 kw 130 amps at 12 v = 1560 watts wow. so it means that i could easily connect a big inverter to the battery posts and draw say 800 watts at idle would that be safe my truck does have a heavy duty package i did not think about it. my primary use for such an inverter would be to power the furnace blower and maybe a tv or a computer or a radio. obviously only the furnace blower consumes significant power. in summer i could use it to power our two refrigerators. so i am talking about a 300-700 watt real load. thanks you can get alternators that produce both ac and dc current. one i saw put out about 4500 watts a/c. guy i knew built log cabins and used it to run tools at his jobsites. try to find out where he got it if you are interested. dont think it cost anywhere near as much as an inverter with that sort of output would have. i would be interested yes. i .

From : gary glaenzer

you are wrong... 49 cfr 392.71 does outlaw radar detectors but that does not wipe out state laws. 49 cfr also mandates vehicles regulated by fmcsa to wear seat belts but violations are written under state/local laws for several reasons. state/local police officers with certain exceptions are not empowered to enforce the cfr. also states and local govts can keep the fines from tickets written under state and local laws. radar detectors are only illegal in nys for trucks over 18000 gvwr. incorrect as any commercial driver can tell you. any vehicle over 10000 lbs commercial use is illegal as by federal law. any state law that says otherwise such as illinois is an old law and the federal law overrides it. --- outgoing mail is certified virus free. checked by avg anti-virus system http//www.grisoft.com. version 6.0.510 / virus database 307 - release date 8/14/2003 .

From : jim dauven

wanna bet i have a cdl...do you the state law is redundant and older than the federal law...and a commercial driver in a vehicle over the federal law limit would be in violation regardless of the state law.. hint...i used to think your way....if the state law was one thing and the federal was the other....the state law over-rode the federal...not so...and that $900 ticket i got says otherwise... oh...vehicle in question a 25000lb rated box truck....under the posted limit...good old radar detector detector located me in i-85 south of greensboro...thats nc btw where there are no restrictions on radar detectors other than the federal law. you are wrong... 49 cfr 392.71 does outlaw radar detectors but that does not wipe out state laws. 49 cfr also mandates vehicles regulated by fmcsa to wear seat belts but violations are written under state/local laws for several reasons. state/local police officers with certain exceptions are not empowered to enforce the cfr. also states and local govts can keep the fines from tickets written under state and local laws. radar detectors are only illegal in nys for trucks over 18000 gvwr. incorrect as any commercial driver can tell you. any vehicle over 10000 lbs commercial use is illegal as by federal law. any state law that says otherwise such as illinois is an old law and the federal law overrides it. --- outgoing mail is certified virus free. checked by avg anti-virus system http//www.grisoft.com. version 6.0.510 / virus database 307 - release date 8/14/2003 .

From : gunner

i bought a 90 caravan cargo van- was a phone co van. i see i am unable to get any computer read-out using switch-on/off methods. the truck has to pass wisconsin emissions testing. my question didnt the cargo vans have the same computerized emissions controls as the passenger vans the 90s didnt use obd ii did they .

From : trey

new ball joints for ram pick-up 1500 4x4 factory madefor a good price. buy them at e-bay.com search #2428343424 or e- mail me .

From : ignoramus1165

damn thats alot of loot for a 02 coulda got a 03 2500 hemi for that price. why would you want a hemi when you can get a cummins he basically got a $33-$34k truck for $27k. mileage is pretty much inconsequential. it was a good deal. .

From : gunner

on sat 16 aug 2003 033342 gmt matt kinsinger mrk20@uakron.edu wrote it can be set up to put out full power at idle you just use a really small pulley on the alternator itself for alot more turns at idle. hopefuly the engine has sufficent horses to pull that load at idle. many/most small engines do not. gunner ignoramus4661 wrote there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available yes they are available. high end stereo enthusiasts use them. trouble is i would think your gas mileage would drop from having to turn a larger alternator. thank you. i did see some such alternators for sale on ebay. a question remains are they really as good as advertized. do they really say put 200 amps when the engine is idling. i would suppose that their effect on gas mileage should be minimal. a typical car engine or truck engine probably puts out something like 50-70 hp at highway speeds. the alternator if it is not really producing 2 kw of power would probably not use more than 1-2 hp which is not much. i i what do you call someone in possesion of all the facts paranoid.-william burroughs .

From : gunner

on 16 aug 2003 054024 gmt ignoramus4661 ignoramus4661@nospam.4661.invalid wrote it can be set up to put out full power at idle you just use a really small pulley on the alternator itself for alot more turns at idle. then i would need a wider/thicker belt that is more tightly tensioned... the law of levers. blink..blink..huh gunner i ignoramus4661 wrote there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available yes they are available. high end stereo enthusiasts use them. trouble is i would think your gas mileage would drop from having to turn a larger alternator. thank you. i did see some such alternators for sale on ebay. a question remains are they really as good as advertized. do they really say put 200 amps when the engine is idling. i would suppose that their effect on gas mileage should be minimal. a typical car engine or truck engine probably puts out something like 50-70 hp at highway speeds. the alternator if it is not really producing 2 kw of power would probably not use more than 1-2 hp which is not much. i i what do you call someone in possesion of all the facts paranoid.-william burroughs .

From : gary glaenzer

just get a 24 volt inverter. if you are going to put a 24-28 volt alternator on there. then run two batteries in series for the 24 volt storage. the mathematical conversion from mechanical horsepower to electricity is 746 watts = 1 horsepower that 746 watts could be any combination of 1 volt at 746 amps to 746 volts at 1 amp. so if your alternator is a 60 amp alt at 14 volts the alternator needs to put out between 13.5 and 14 volts to charge a lead acid battery you need at least 60 amps x 14 volts == 840 watts / 746 == 1.12 horsepower if you add in the energy lost to friction slippage heat etc. then you are closer to 2 horse power to drive the average alternator. a dual alternator set up will give your 1700 watts at idle. the military went to 24 volt systems as an efficiency measure higher rotor coil energy creates a stronger magnetic field for the fields to be cut by so the alternator can put out more electricity from a smaller package. typical military alternators are 28 volt units at 60 amps which are not that much bigger than the 12 volt 60 amp unit yet put out twice the power. in heavy aircraft the alternators are 28 volt 300 or 400 amp 400 hz ac units. these units are just over 15 inches in diameter weigh in at about 30 lbs yet put out 8400 or 11000 watts. the 400 hz when rectified to dc user smaller rectification units and makes cleaner dc power than the common 60 hz ac of our house hold electricity when rectified to dc. with two of these units with field coil selector switch alternators are not self excited so you need an external battery to drive the rotor coils you can use one or two of the units as you need. what you need is a 2 to 1 step down transformer and a rectifier to provide the dc power for the 12 volt really 13.5 volt lead acid batteries. then the dc power has to be inverted back to 60 hz ac power and then back through a 9.5 to one step up transformer to get the 120 volt 60 hz ac power to drive common house hold or commercial gear. be aware that 12 volt dc can start the excitation of the rotor but you need away to keep the 24 volts for the rotor excitation this occurs once the alternator starts running and the rotor gets its energy from the voltage regulator from bleeding back to the battery. so the bottom line is this whole thing is not as simple as it looks. it would be much simpler if the auto industry went from 12 volt systems to 24 volt system much like it did in the 50s when it went from 6 volt systems to 12 volt systems. the independent miki kanazawa wrote 20 kw is the same as 26.82 horsepower mathematical conversion. so giving yourself 25% for losses itd take roughly 33.5 hp to drive this type of load. the smallblock chevy in my 1975 g20 van makes 38.4 hp at 1000 rpm. stock except for carb intake cam and headers. lets pretend this is typical output for an engine that would be running a 20 kw generator. to keep the engine from stalling you would need to generate the torque necessary to run the generator as well as overcome frictional and other losses in the engine. in a typical smallblock chevy this is about 7 hp at 1000 rpm and about 21 hp at 2000 rpm. 20 kw should be comfortably generated with the engine idling at 2000 rpm. of course youd have to figure out how to connect generating hardware to the engine! i think a transmission with a pto shaft would be ideal and easily adapted. ie. most older manually shifted truck trans. .

From : ignoramus1165

to deliver the same power with a smaller pulley you would need to provide same torque as before but because the pulley is smaller the force is going to be proportionally larger. i on 16 aug 2003 054024 gmt ignoramus4661 ignoramus4661@nospam.4661.invalid wrote it can be set up to put out full power at idle you just use a really small pulley on the alternator itself for alot more turns at idle. then i would need a wider/thicker belt that is more tightly tensioned... the law of levers. blink..blink..huh gunner i ignoramus4661 wrote there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available yes they are available. high end stereo enthusiasts use them. trouble is i would think your gas mileage would drop from having to turn a larger alternator. thank you. i did see some such alternators for sale on ebay. a question remains are they really as good as advertized. do they really say put 200 amps when the engine is idling. i would suppose that their effect on gas mileage should be minimal. a typical car engine or truck engine probably puts out something like 50-70 hp at highway speeds. the alternator if it is not really producing 2 kw of power would probably not use more than 1-2 hp which is not much. i i what do you call someone in possesion of all the facts paranoid.-william burroughs .

From : offbreed

on sat 16 aug 2003 020748 -0400 north northmt@hotmail.com wrote on 15 aug 2003 210015 gmt ignoramus4661 ignoramus4661@nospam.4661.invalid said these hours will not necessarily hurt the engine -- low power low rpm low temps. which also means less oil presure which means more engine wear. allowing a automobile engine to idle for long periods is bad iirc. ymmv. hummmm..with a proper engine using good oil that thing should idle with no problems for a few hundred thousand hours assuming that it doesnt load up the cat with byproducts. idle oilpressure is the hallmark most designers exeed. anything over idle oil pressure is supposed to be gravy and of course the oil also serves also as a coolant medium so the hotter it runs the faster the oil should circulate. on my trucks/cars there is only a few 10 lbs difference between idle and 2500 rpm on my oil pressure gauges real ones g gunner what do you call someone in possesion of all the facts paranoid.-william burroughs i have an oil pressure sensor it does not drop much at idle. i .

From : erniegalts

gary brown wrote hey great tips! many thanks take a look at this pdf. also installdr.com also shows wiring diagrams and tips for most major makes of autos. http//www.installdr.com/installdocs/dcp/pdf/327009.pdf .

From : gary glaenzer

today i did it! 18.85 mpg. ram 1500 2wd with 4.7l 5 speed auto. 65 mph avg and tonneau cover. it almost made the epa rating of 19. the truck is a 2003 with 4700 miles. whats everyones record we have a 97 dakota 3.9 4x4 at w/3.901 rearend and the last tank that was a mix of city/highway and some air on some off was 17.51 mpg .

From : sue

did anyone say why nope. as for the next question though. wtf is all the extra crap from in this post it doesnt have anything to do with the subject or the thread. its like just gibberish. the gibberish may apply to one of the groups this message is being cross-posted to. im just trying to figure out which one. ;^ .

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From : nosey

kit wrote im not the one that wrote the original message but id love the chance to disprove a socialist. better a socialist than an anarchist. the government does not grant you rights period. but they seem to do a good job of taking them away. hello have you never heard of voting getting off your lazy law breaking butt and casting a ballot if you or i lose any rights its because too many people had the wrong opinion that their vote doesnt matter. you have the right to do anything peaceful as long as you do not initiate force against others. wrong. what youre saying implies that if someone uses a garrote to kill another with quick quiet and effective and it doesnt cause a ruckus garroting is a common method for getting past sentries without alarming the encampment the it should be legal at all times / places. please quit acting like you voluntarily pay taxes. you know damn well that if you didnt the government would come and shake you down point-blank. and your proof is have you ever been audited join the modern era kit. they have courts to shake you down if guilty they dont need to hold a gun on you. but the key is that in a court if you prove you dont owe any tax you dont pay. its beginning to sound like you need to go buy an island declare independence from the country it belongs to and leave the civilized world alone. what a joke. ive seen plenty of people with licenses that are terrible drivers. i didnt say the current system only allows perfect drivers to get licenses. but ill bet i could set up a test you couldnt pass either without at least a couple years of training. thats just the excuse the government gives you in order for them to fill up their coffers and to control people. no toidi it gives the victims and the families of victims a paper trail to bring the criminal to justice. basically when you are on the road you have already assumed the risk that you may be killed or injured. if you cant take the risk then dont get on the road. gawd what freakin idiocy!!! your anarchist side is showing. my could you be demon possessed you take a risk with every breath of inhaling a bug and choking to death. or by trying to get out of bed or bathe or. as for taking risks maybe you should try living a few years before you think youve done it all. theres people in this group that have done things that would probably make you need to change your undies. so you are admitting that you and your loved ones cannot be held responsible for your own actions huh i asked you if you wanted an untrained incompetent mind blown on drugs dispensing medicines for you or a loved one from an unregulated unsanitary street corner. lets say for example you are having a heart attack and the pusher gives you 300 mg of strychnine in an unwashed spoon...or would you rather the trained and licensed pharmacist decipher the scribblings of your doctor and give you a dose of nitroglycerine you would eliminate health care in america and reduce it back to the stone age. on second thought even the neanderthals would be too restrictive in your view because they required the shamans to demonstrate a knowledge of herbs or they ran them off. if all drugs were legal there would not be a black market profit to be made off of them thus the pusher you speak of would not even exist. aha!!! the truth comes out. you want all drugs legal flash kiddo. they are with a few exceptions. they just require a medical condition and a prescription that you dont want to bother with. btw what gives you the right to decide that its ok for pusher to be able to dispense death and suffering especially to kids what makes you think a company would hire a surgeon that cannot perform if that company made it a habit to hire people that cannot do their jobs that company would not last very long at all since no one is forced to do business with them. think for a moment about what you just wrote . . . and contradicted yourself with in the process. why not have accredited and licensed schools call them medical schools for lack of a better term training them in their skills and then have other licensed physicians on a state operated board test those skills to see if that are worthy to be performing the surgeries and use a piece of paper called a license to give proof they passed those tests do you think it could work also diplomas are a joke. employers never ask you to see one and the only employer that i can think of that does which is the military will accept a diploma that you printed off that your parents signed. they should since the minutemen that fought the tyrannical british sure the hell didnt have diplomas. have you ever been in the military have you taken an asvab i have a son that scored in the top 15% on his...and he was home schooled and took a ged test where he scored in the top 10% of the state of

From : tbone

that sounds like 32 mph around sawgrass mills. ive seen days that people would have been passing you! doug i have been reading the discussions about gas mileage with and without cruise control and i always thought that you got better mileage with cruise control. i conducted a short unscientific test and came up with the following ram 1500 with 4.7 engine and auto transmission. there is a 2.1 mile flat circle around a mall here in sunrise fl. i drove around the circle at 32 mph with cruise control on and got 22.3 mpg on the indicator. without cruise control and trying very hard to keep the same speed i got 23.1 mpg. both trips there was no traffic and i was able to hold the speed more exact without cruise control. with c/c on i could feel the little surges and coasts and this is probably responsible for the increased mileage. i know that this might not translate into the same results at 70 mph on a highway but i think that it might. cruise control is handy and i will continue to use it on the highway but i think that i could get a little better mileage without it. the trade-off would be that i would have to really pay attention to my foot on the gas pedal and concentrate. don d. .

From : gary glaenzer

aye thanks for the heads-up i will watch out for it! greg surratt glsurratt@att.net wrote that looks like it. i got the low voltage model which burns the low-beam headlights at something like 57% of the full brightness. they are on they are visible but they are not obnoxiously bright. one caveat if you do this i thought i had broken the high beam switch in my truck one night. i stopped and turned the headlights off. the drl box kept them on at reduced brightness. when i got back on the road i couldnt get the high beams to come on. big duuhhhh!! i forgot to turn the headlights back on. only done it one time though. greg .

From : redneck tookover hell

mainly an attitude of we know whats best for you and in the case of those in colorado we got here first and weve got ours the rest of you stay the hell out! sometimes the best for you crap is backed up by fact and sometimes it isnt. i dont know what you are referring to by those in colorado. im referring to those folks in colorado who say to anyone wanting to move there we got here first and weve got ours the rest of you stay the hell out. do you think you can understand it now ford and the other car makers are producing those pieces of shit to shut the enviros up..........never mind that theyre losing their corporate asses on each one it looks good to the greenies who wont buy them either if you believe this i suggest that you pull your head out of the sand and look around a little. we are using energy at an ever in creasing rate and the time will come when we need to come up with a newer source or a more efficient way to use what we have. hell just look at what is happening in phoenix az now with that broken pipe line. lines and pricing like the gas crisis of the 70s. if you think that something like that cant happen everywhere again you are only fooling yourself. the american car companies lost massive ground during the last gas crisis because they were not prepared only had gas guzzlers and the japanese companies were. ford is building these cars because the japanese makers are already getting good at building them and they know that they have to as well to remain competitive and not to get caught with their pants around their ankles again. they could give a rats ass about what the greenies think. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

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From : tbone

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i didnt think you could understand anything based on science research and truth sure i can but what does that have to do with this distorted bs web site it certainly describes you accurately yet once again you know not of what you speak. save your vast right wing conspiracy theory for the converted read above lol could that site be any more right wing. it figures that you would know about it and probably believe every distorted word. .

From : tbone

mainly an attitude of we know whats best for you and in the case of those in colorado we got here first and weve got ours the rest of you stay the hell out! sometimes the best for you crap is backed up by fact and sometimes it isnt. i dont know what you are referring to by those in colorado. im referring to those folks in colorado who say to anyone wanting to move there we got here first and weve got ours the rest of you stay the hell out. i still dont know what people you are referring to. do you have a link to some site describing what is happening it sounds like a group of people that are trying to preserve their current lifestyle and are resisting the typical overdevelopment that destroys so many pristine areas. do you think you can understand it now and you feel the need to resort to petty insults for what reason -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

that is exactly what happened to new joisey -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving that must be what happened to new joisey it sounds like a group of people that are trying to preserve their current lifestyle and are resisting the typical overdevelopment that destroys so many pristine areas. chaos confusion and trouble!!!! my work here is almost done .

From : s miller

without commenting on whether this would really be the most efficient solution for you other posts have done that quite adequately what you are describing is pretty common in the marine world they are called cruising generators and are designed to make ac power from your boat engine while underway. i dont have any links handy but i would be there are ready-made kits for most common large v8 engines or at least any that see marine service. ignoramus4661 wrote there is an ongoing military program to provide the army with pickup trucks that also have a 20kw generator connected to the engine. such trucks could provide power at remote sites during deployment of troops. it sounds like a great idea. what i am thinking about right now is whether it is possible to replace an existing car alternator with one that could generate say 1 kilowatt of electricity. i have a pickup truck and with such an aleranator and an inverter i could have a great standby power capacity. i have a 1999 dodge ram truck and i know that there is enough space under the hood to mount a bigger alternator. are such extra powerful alternators available .

From : jerry

they print it so it can be read. wait a minute. you better sue the manufacturer of your computer...they print you name on my computer kit. budd kit wrote yes! im glad to see someone else of my reasoning as well. when you think about it the presidents before lincoln had remembered the american revolution well; they did not want to allow a tyrant to rule it once again. he was the tyrant they feared. another thing is that drivers licenses issue your name in capital letters. that aint how you write your own name. ooops! you are correct ^ but you recognize the gist of my post anyway. sadly you are also correct about the sovereignty of the states as well. mr. lincoln is universally acknowledged as a great president however it was his administration that began the downhill slide toward where we are today. i cant speak for the other states but here in mo if you object to your ssn being used for your d/l # they will issue you a different one. i hope this is true elsewhere. thanks for the clarification and its refreshing to know that there is at least one other soul who recognizes that sovereignty aint what it used to be. mike .

From : tbone

while that may be true it is probably more in line with a bunch of people who feel the need to gain their windfall at the expense of others with bogus lawsuits and the scumbag lawyers advertising on tv for their business. i will be glad when im outa here. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving because most of the residents are from new york and never drove a car before they moved to new joisey they are hear as well why do you think we have the highest auto insurance in the nation as well. chaos confusion and trouble!!!! my work here is almost done .

From : redneck tookover hell

lol i thought it was more like why did new joisey get the chemical plants and dumps instead of the lawyers and law offices that are in new york city new joisey had first pick that is exactly what happened to new joisey chaos confusion and trouble!!!! my work here is almost done .

From : redneck tookover hell

because most of the residents are from new york and never drove a car before they moved to new joisey they are hear as well why do you think we have the highest auto insurance in the nation as well. chaos confusion and trouble!!!! my work here is almost done .

From : tbone

they are hear as well why do you think we have the highest auto insurance in the nation as well. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol i thought it was more like why did new joisey get the chemical plants and dumps instead of the lawyers and law offices that are in new york city new joisey had first pick that is exactly what happened to new joisey chaos confusion and trouble!!!! my work here is almost done .