Sucky ass '98 Ram 1500 tranny

From : ian

Q: these auto trannys suck. i got 110000 mi out of it and always changed fluid every 20000 mi. i think that im the only person in the south that keeps the tranny fliud red. these trannys will use fluid and that is putting it lightly. my delima is that at first the tranny would not want to shift unless i lifted my foot off of the gas at redline then get back in to it to shift into 2nd. then after changing the fliud like i always did it developed a leak.that ended up being front seal went out. the old fluid was brown but didnt smell burnt. then all of the sudden it would take a lift foot shift into 2nd and at redline physical downshift into neutral and back up into drive for it to shift into 3rd. overdrive was never a problem. it would shift normally once it finally got into 3rd. up untill recently the check engine light came on. after troubleshooting it the code was 1756 - shift solinoid b. or something-or-other. my good friend is got to be the best auto tranny guy around and he put it on a diagnostic machine and ended up being all 3 of the shift solinoids that went out. needless to say i wanna put a .357 slug through it. the cool thing is that it dont need a rebuild because of my continous maintainance of the fluid and filter. so if you ever buy a used ram w/auto change the fluid and filter regularly. the only thing that will happen is that you spend $700 on solinoids shift kit and seal and labor instead of $1800 for a rebuild. has anybody else had this problem .

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From : daniel j stern

on sat 12 jun 2004 ian wrote these auto trannys suck. yep. some of us remember when chrysler corp. had the reputation of building the finest most durable automatic transmissions in the world torqueflite 727 and 904. those days are gone gone gone. -stern .

From : max340

these auto trannys suck. yep. nope. as the original poster noted he spent money on electronic devices not trans parts. as we all know electronics are prone to failure whenever not on a maintenance schedule. some of us remember when chrysler corp. had the reputation of building the finest most durable automatic transmissions in the world they still do. torqueflite 727 and 904. those days are gone gone gone. wrong. the tf 727 is the basis for the od trans except for the 45r* models. these od trans are every bit as good as the old 3 spd variants when maintained. in reading the ops words this becomes evident and is proven by what he says. further if you think the mopar trans are a problem youve not read what the ford and gm buyers have gone through. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : carolina assclown

shut up carolina ass clown! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha .

From : redneck tookover hell

pedophile that we have been giving a hard time on the net...remember dd this guys as bad only he admitted he wanted to sleep with his customers kids.....his names dave...so i would be i think roy needs a new best friend for the summer g politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : cbhvac same as it was com

these auto trannys suck. i got 110000 mi out of it and always changed fluid every 20000 mi. hummm...the owners manual states every 15k.... i think that im the only person in the south that keeps the tranny fliud red. think again.. these trannys will use fluid and that is putting it lightly. umm..no. wrong...you have a leak. my delima is that at first the tranny would not want to shift unless i lifted my foot off of the gas at redline then get back in to it to shift into 2nd. then after changing the fliud like i always did it developed a leak.that ended up being front seal went out. the old fluid was brown but didnt smell burnt. then all of the sudden it would take a lift foot shift into 2nd and at redline physical downshift into neutral and back up into drive for it to shift into 3rd. overdrive was never a problem. it would shift normally once it finally got into 3rd. up untill recently the check engine light came on. after troubleshooting it the code was 1756 - shift solinoid b. or something-or-other. my good friend is got to be the best auto tranny guy around and he put it on a diagnostic machine and ended up being all 3 of the shift solinoids that went out. gee..you dont reckon that extra 5000 miles between changes had anything to do with it. you did use the right fluid right needless to say i wanna put a .357 slug through it. the cool thing is that it dont need a rebuild because of my continous maintainance of the fluid and filter. lol..wanna bet you stated your fluid was brown.....hummmmm.... so if you ever buy a used ram w/auto change the fluid and filter regularly. the only thing that will happen is that you spend $700 on solinoids shift kit and seal and labor instead of $1800 for a rebuild. jesus..you aint got much of a friend for those $200 in parts... has anybody else had this problem nope...not unless you talk about the th700r4s i have had... .

From : ian

these auto trannys suck. i got 110000 mi out of it and always changed fluid every 20000 mi. hummm...the owners manual states every 15k.... i think that im the only person in the south that keeps the tranny fliud red. think again.. these trannys will use fluid and that is putting it lightly. umm..no. wrong...you have a leak. my delima is that at first the tranny would not want to shift unless i lifted my foot off of the gas at redline then get back in to it to shift into 2nd. then after changing the fliud like i always did it developed a leak.that ended up being front seal went out. the old fluid was brown but didnt smell burnt. then all of the sudden it would take a lift foot shift into 2nd and at redline physical downshift into neutral and back up into drive for it to shift into 3rd. overdrive was never a problem. it would shift normally once it finally got into 3rd. up untill recently the check engine light came on. after troubleshooting it the code was 1756 - shift solinoid b. or something-or-other. my good friend is got to be the best auto tranny guy around and he put it on a diagnostic machine and ended up being all 3 of the shift solinoids that went out. gee..you dont reckon that extra 5000 miles between changes had anything to do with it. you did use the right fluid right needless to say i wanna put a .357 slug through it. the cool thing is that it dont need a rebuild because of my continous maintainance of the fluid and filter. lol..wanna bet you stated your fluid was brown.....hummmmm.... so if you ever buy a used ram w/auto change the fluid and filter regularly. the only thing that will happen is that you spend $700 on solinoids shift kit and seal and labor instead of $1800 for a rebuild. jesus..you aint got much of a friend for those $200 in parts... has anybody else had this problem nope...not unless you talk about the th700r4s i have had... i thought the cardinal rule to a forum/group was no flamers allowed. thanks for nit pickin everything and all of the usefull info. way 2 go!! .

From : cbhvac same as it was com

these auto trannys suck. i got 110000 mi out of it and always changed fluid every 20000 mi. hummm...the owners manual states every 15k.... i think that im the only person in the south that keeps the tranny fliud red. think again.. these trannys will use fluid and that is putting it lightly. umm..no. wrong...you have a leak. my delima is that at first the tranny would not want to shift unless i lifted my foot off of the gas at redline then get back in to it to shift into 2nd. then after changing the fliud like i always did it developed a leak.that ended up being front seal went out. the old fluid was brown but didnt smell burnt. then all of the sudden it would take a lift foot shift into 2nd and at redline physical downshift into neutral and back up into drive for it to shift into 3rd. overdrive was never a problem. it would shift normally once it finally got into 3rd. up untill recently the check engine light came on. after troubleshooting it the code was 1756 - shift solinoid b. or something-or-other. my good friend is got to be the best auto tranny guy around and he put it on a diagnostic machine and ended up being all 3 of the shift solinoids that went out. gee..you dont reckon that extra 5000 miles between changes had anything to do with it. you did use the right fluid right needless to say i wanna put a .357 slug through it. the cool thing is that it dont need a rebuild because of my continous maintainance of the fluid and filter. lol..wanna bet you stated your fluid was brown.....hummmmm.... so if you ever buy a used ram w/auto change the fluid and filter regularly. the only thing that will happen is that you spend $700 on solinoids shift kit and seal and labor instead of $1800 for a rebuild. jesus..you aint got much of a friend for those $200 in parts... has anybody else had this problem nope...not unless you talk about the th700r4s i have had... i thought the cardinal rule to a forum/group was no flamers allowed. you actually think that was a flame thanks for nit pickin everything and all of the usefull info. way 2 go!! i cant help it if you dont understand any of it... .

From : carolina shit breeze

you see folks carolina breezes function here is to jump from thread to thread and flame people. hes what you call a usenet spoiler gets his jollies from shitting on others. cant stand to see people carrying on normal conversations something breezy boy does not know how to do. wanna know how he got his nic up in carolina you can look in some peoples ears and see daylight clear right through to the other ear. the result is a carolina breeze that blows clear through his head. you might say breezy boy is a real air head. rotflmao! lol lol lol lol lol lol below space reserved for breezy boy to whine lol lol lol bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .

From : carolina assclown

so says another aol moron. aol = training wheels for the internet hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah he didnt flame you moron there i flamed you idiot happy now your friend use vaseline when he screwed you .

From : denny

so says another aol moron. aol = training wheels for the internet hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah anybody else notice that summer vacation has started denny .

From : carolina bad breath

carolina breeze swooped in here right after school let out for the summer. then breezy boy started flaming the growed up men in this group. poor breezy boy swiped a few cans of his old mans beer now the old man wont let him borry the truck for the summer! wait till the old man finds out carolina breezy boy is using his old mans computer to flame guys in the dodge truck group. har har har har har har har har har har har har so says another aol moron. aol = training wheels for the internet hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah anybody else notice that summer vacation has started denny .

From : redneck tookover hell

i thought the cardinal rule to a forum/group was no flamers allowed. thanks for nit pickin everything and all of the usefull info. way 2 go!! he didnt flame you moron there i flamed you idiot happy now your friend use vaseline when he screwed you politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : max340

ok i will say it once more. really unless you want a warranty and all that you are better off going with someone who is experienced and knowledgable who wont screw you over. i dont think thats what you said at first. you distinctly called trans rebuilding a scam. for what cottman quoted me $2000 i got done by one of their former techs who did it for $192. who must have owed you bigtime. he screwed himself in the process. some scam. even i will not build a trans for that little and i dont offer a warranty since most of my stuff is abused. a hell of a deal if you ask me. yup he screwed himself. now if going to one of these chain trans. shops is your choice hey its a free country but a guy could do better if he looks around some. no disagreement there but thats not what you originally said. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : redneck tookover hell

some one said this and who ever did is wrong. yup sure enough a brief look back shows it was you. max he cant comprehend what you are telling him max i think i see the short bus coming to pick him up politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

boy!! you guys are gaining new best friends like never before. be gentle with them. gbmfg roy you know the best ones are available now that school for the short bus crrowd has just let out got to fight you & mac tooth and nail for the cunning little runts bfg politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : Annonymous

on tue 15 jun 2004 192327 -0500 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote quality is like buying oats... if you want nice clean fresh oats you will have to pay a price.... if on the other hand you are willing to accept oats that have already been through the horse that can be had a lot cheaper! mike i agree and the only reason i went with this guys is that he was highly recommended. he has rebuilt numerous transmissions over the years for my father-in-law and other people in town. ive using the transmission for just over a year now and it runs great. i gernerally subscribe to your theory but this was an exception here that i am very happy with. john .

From : Annonymous

on 16 jun 2004 041030 gmt max340@aol.compost max340 wrote i dont think thats what you said at first. you distinctly called trans rebuilding a scam. well to me someone who doesnt know anything about the internals of a transmission gets quoted $2k for a rebuild and then one of there former techs does it for $192 would think its a scam. for what cottman quoted me $2000 i got done by one of their former techs who did it for $192. who must have owed you bigtime. he screwed himself in the process. some scam. even i will not build a trans for that little and i dont offer a warranty since most of my stuff is abused. now i know i got a good deal but i see now it was a hell of a deal. and for what its worth the guy didnt owe me anything. i dont even know the guy except as the guy that rebuilt my transmission. a hell of a deal if you ask me. yup he screwed himself. well that was his choice because i would have surely paid more since i was expecting i would have to pay $1k for a usedunknown history or $2k for a rebuilt or mine rebuilt. now if going to one of these chain trans. shops is your choice hey its a free country but a guy could do better if he looks around some. no disagreement there but thats not what you originally said. and i did think it was a scam based on my experience but i guess from the responses from you guys i just got a hell of a deal and not a common thing even among independent mechs. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan on a side note my wifes uncle was having some issues with his rams transmission took it to the same transmission shop to get looked at and they said it needed to be rebuilt. my father-in-law suggested he take it to the guy that rebuilt mine and he left it for 2 days intermittent problem that didnt show up when the mech first droveit. $54 later and some cable adjusting and it was fine. so it definately pays to look into the rep of a shop before you take you vehicle to them because the cottman shop near me doesnt seem to be very good or maybe they are outright dishonest. john .

From : mac davis

on sun 13 jun 2004 122320 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote so says another aol moron. aol = training wheels for the internet hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah anybody else notice that summer vacation has started denny the school with the short bus gets out early i think... mac .

From : Annonymous

on sat 12 jun 2004 123345 -0500 ian iyrobinson@nospamcharter.net wrote these auto trannys suck. i got 110000 mi out of it and always changed fluid every 20000 mi. i think that im the only person in the south that keeps the tranny fliud red. these trannys will use fluid and that is putting it lightly. my delima is that at first the tranny would not want to shift unless i lifted my foot off of the gas at redline then get back in to it to shift into 2nd. then after changing the fliud like i always did it developed a leak.that ended up being front seal went out. the old fluid was brown but didnt smell burnt. then all of the sudden it would take a lift foot shift into 2nd and at redline physical downshift into neutral and back up into drive for it to shift into 3rd. overdrive was never a problem. it would shift normally once it finally got into 3rd. up untill recently the check engine light came on. after troubleshooting it the code was 1756 - shift solinoid b. or something-or-other. my good friend is got to be the best auto tranny guy around and he put it on a diagnostic machine and ended up being all 3 of the shift solinoids that went out. needless to say i wanna put a .357 slug through it. the cool thing is that it dont need a rebuild because of my continous maintainance of the fluid and filter. so if you ever buy a used ram w/auto change the fluid and filter regularly. the only thing that will happen is that you spend $700 on solinoids shift kit and seal and labor instead of $1800 for a rebuild. has anybody else had this problem i would have to admit that some of these trannys do suck although i think more of the 42re in the v6 trucks. why the hell didnt they just put the 44re in them; it couldnt have cost much more. but one of the biggest scams out there is transmission rebuilding. one placecottman wanted something like 2k to rebuild mine. there is a guy local to me who used to work for them and is a whiz at transmisssions; he quoted me $1400 + whatever odd stuff he found in addition to the normal rebuild things. now my father-in-law knows this guy and has had transmissions rebuilt by him for years and sent him customers. he drops by one day after picking up the freshly rebuilt plymouth vip trans had just aquired the car and said if we take the trans out of the dakota and drop it off he will rebuild it for $175-200. we suppied the kit which cost nothing since it was in the inventory of a closed garage my father-in-law had purchased. so we pull the transmissionwhat a huge pain in the ass drop it off and it did take him a couple of weeks but i had told him i wasn in a hury. he had to get some drum assemblyfound a good used one drum pistoni think and some other little thing and the drum is what made it take so long. i figured here we go the price jsut jumped. grand total- $190. its now been in there for a year and is running great. so it pays to make friends with someone if the rebuilding business if you have problems with yours. sorry for the long post. john .

From : cbhvac same as it was com

so says another aol moron. aol = training wheels for the internet hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah anybody else notice that summer vacation has started denny yup..thats two in a row that thought i flamed them. funny as hell when people dont get the hand holding and gentle words of oh..youre so right and its all gonna be ooookay... they break down and freak out. whats even funnier is they think that i really give a fuck what they think as if this is the first time some fucktards gone and tried to piss me off..lol..damn...they get sillier and more ignorant each year. course..when your mom is a hardcore crack whore and has been since before you were born.....you have a tendancy to use super so one one can knock your door down and try to piss off longtime regs with stupid shit like...assclown jesus fucking christ...please....we know this kids about 14....since most of todays 14 year olds are on a 3rd grade level and would think thats funny. either that or its a buddy of this pedophile that we have been giving a hard time on the net...remember dd this guys as bad only he admitted he wanted to sleep with his customers kids.....his names dave...so i would be willing to bet that our new bitch is sitting there typing this shit out with dave right behind him trying out some new toys... .

From : cbhvac same as it was com

on sat 12 jun 2004 200207 -0500 ian iyrobinson@nospamcharter.net wrote thanks for nit pickin everything and all of the usefull info. way 2 go!! its a lot easier to see things from his point of view if you stick your head up your ass. his head was already up his ass...maybe he needed to come out for air. and yeah i agree they suck. beekeep .

From : cbhvac same as it was com

stfu tard! you might come up with more original stuff if you get that dick out of your mouth and concentrate on the screen and not what dave is doing to your ass...k .

From : max340

but one of the biggest scams out there is transmission rebuilding. ok..... and said if we take the trans out of the dakota and drop it off he will rebuild it for $175-200. $200 + we suppied the kit which cost nothing since it was in the inventory of a closed garage my father-in-law had purchased. $200 normally = 400 + so we pull the transmissionwhat a huge pain in the ass 4 hours at $60 = $240 = $640 + he had to get some drum assemblyfound a good used one drum pistoni think and some other little thing and the drum is what made it take so long. which if my search was any indication leads you to far away places im in pa i finally found the drum assembly in texas and you pay the asking price if you want it. $190 = $830 + install at $240 = $1070 + now assuming you get a warranty they will want to cover the cost of another r&r on the trans since they do not want to lose money on a warranty claim $480 = $1550 wow remarkable how that adds up to almost exactly what you were complaining about. you want the trans and the warranty so you pay for the trans and the warranty. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : jerry

denny wrote so says another aol moron. aol = training wheels for the internet hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah anybody else notice that summer vacation has started denny another good reason to have school extended to 12 months of the year. jerry .

From : beekeep

on sat 12 jun 2004 200207 -0500 ian iyrobinson@nospamcharter.net wrote thanks for nit pickin everything and all of the usefull info. way 2 go!! its a lot easier to see things from his point of view if you stick your head up your ass. and yeah i agree they suck. beekeep .

From : carolina bad breath

stfu tard! so says another aol moron. aol = training wheels for the internet hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah anybody else notice that summer vacation has started denny yup..thats two in a row that thought i flamed them. funny as hell when people dont get the hand holding and gentle words of oh..youre so right and its all gonna be ooookay... they break down and freak out. whats even funnier is they think that i really give a fuck what they think as if this is the first time some fucktards gone and tried to piss me off..lol..damn...they get sillier and more ignorant each year. course..when your mom is a hardcore crack whore and has been since before you were born.....you have a tendancy to use super so one one can knock your door down and try to piss off longtime regs with stupid shit like...assclown jesus fucking christ...please....we know this kids about 14....since most of todays 14 year olds are on a 3rd grade level and would think thats funny. either that or its a buddy of this pedophile that we have been giving a hard time on the net...remember dd this guys as bad only he admitted he wanted to sleep with his customers kids.....his names dave...so i would be willing to bet that our new bitch is sitting there typing this shit out with dave right behind him trying out some new toys... .

From : roy

$480 = $1550 wow remarkable how that adds up to almost exactly what you were complaining about. you want the trans and the warranty so you pay for the trans and the warranty. another case of the school with the short bus letting out early max politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. boy!! you guys are gaining new best friends like never before. be gentle with them. gbmfg .

From : redneck tookover hell

you might come up with more original stuff if you get that dick out of your mouth and concentrate on the screen and not what dave is doing to your ass...k dave probably told him a dick in his mouth and one in his ass makes him bi sexual politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

$480 = $1550 wow remarkable how that adds up to almost exactly what you were complaining about. you want the trans and the warranty so you pay for the trans and the warranty. another case of the school with the short bus letting out early max politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : carolina breeze retards

$480 = $1550 another case of the school with the short bus letting out early max pkb aol = training wheels for the internet another aol tard trying to act soophisticated. rotflmao! .

From : carolina breeze retards

his head was already up his ass...maybe he needed to come out for air. yup we call it the *carolina breezy tard syndrome* cbts for you future reference. .

From : jasper

i need to take off my cooling line to the radiator to flush out the transmission. the valve body is starting to stick. i have never seen these fittings before. how do they come apart is there a trick with screw drivers or do i need to buy a tool is the drivers side line the supply or return thanks. .

From : beekeep

on tue 15 jun 2004 120810 -0500 jasper cdemon@yahoo.com wrote beekeep wrote thats what he does. he makes one heck of a grouchy ol woman. somebody has to replace budd. beekeep what happened to butt budd i think t-bone wore his old ass out. or maybe he blew his mind trying to keep all of his lies straight. beekeep .

From : Annonymous

on 13 jun 2004 164748 gmt max340@aol.compost max340 wrote but one of the biggest scams out there is transmission rebuilding. ok..... and said if we take the trans out of the dakota and drop it off he will rebuild it for $175-200. $480 = $1550 wow remarkable how that adds up to almost exactly what you were complaining about. you want the trans and the warranty so you pay for the trans and the warranty. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan must have me confused with the original poster of this message mine cost $192 period. john .

From : cbhvac same as it was com

ian wrote thanks for nit pickin everything and all of the usefull info. way 2 go!! thats what he does. he makes one heck of a grouchy ol woman. yawn... .

From : carolina breeze ass clown

yawn... stfu troll! .

From : beekeep

on mon 14 jun 2004 111146 -0500 jasper cdemon@yahoo.com wrote ian wrote thanks for nit pickin everything and all of the usefull info. way 2 go!! thats what he does. he makes one heck of a grouchy ol woman. somebody has to replace budd. beekeep .

From : max340

dtj wrote sigh i here this load of crap about any subject. some guy writes in he has been running synthetic oil for 150000 miles without an oil change. so therefore the conclusion is that oil changes are pointless. good grief. good use of foul language to make yourself more credible in your ability to debate and substantiate your claims. maybe when you grow up your mommy will allow you to use big words too. not if his mommy raises him correctly. jerry .

From : max340

but one of the biggest scams out there is transmission rebuilding. some one said this and who ever did is wrong. yup sure enough a brief look back shows it was you. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : jasper

i have 50k on my 2001 dodge diesel 2500 and notice the serpentine belt has tiny cracks on both sides. however im told by the service personnell that is normal. any one have any experience with this how many miles should i run this belt. im leaving in january for an extensive usa trip towing my 26 fifth wheel camper. any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. hons .

From : max340

well to me someone who doesnt know anything about the internals of a transmission gets quoted $2k for a rebuild and then one of there former techs does it for $192 would think its a scam. only if they dont know all the facts. and i did think it was a scam based on my experience but i guess from the responses from you guys i just got a hell of a deal and not a common thing even among independent mechs. bingo. so it definately pays to look into the rep of a shop before you take you vehicle to them because the cottman shop near me doesnt seem to be very good or maybe they are outright dishonest. again no disagreement there. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : cbhvac same as it was com

beekeep wrote thats what he does. he makes one heck of a grouchy ol woman. somebody has to replace budd. beekeep what happened to butt budd hes around just choses not to deal with the romper room bunch in here....thats all. hes probably the smartest one of all in here. .

From : Annonymous

on 15 jun 2004 035413 gmt max340@aol.compost max340 wrote but one of the biggest scams out there is transmission rebuilding. some one said this and who ever did is wrong. yup sure enough a brief look back shows it was you. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan ok i will say it once more. unless you want a warranty and all that you are better off going with someone who is experienced and knowledgable who wont screw you over. for what cottman quoted me $2000 i got done by one of their former techs who did it for $192. a hell of a deal if you ask me. now if going to one of these chain trans. shops is your choice hey its a free country but a guy could do better if he looks around some. john .

From : mike simmons

on 15 jun 2004 035413 gmt max340@aol.compost max340 wrote but one of the biggest scams out there is transmission rebuilding. some one said this and who ever did is wrong. yup sure enough a brief look back shows it was you. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan ok i will say it once more. unless you want a warranty and all that you are better off going with someone who is experienced and knowledgable who wont screw you over. for what cottman quoted me $2000 i got done by one of their former techs who did it for $192. a hell of a deal if you ask me. now if going to one of these chain trans. shops is your choice hey its a free country but a guy could do better if he looks around some. john quality is like buying oats... if you want nice clean fresh oats you will have to pay a price.... if on the other hand you are willing to accept oats that have already been through the horse that can be had a lot cheaper! mike .

From : denny

quality is like buying oats... if you want nice clean fresh oats you will have to pay a price.... if on the other hand you are willing to accept oats that have already been through the horse that can be had a lot cheaper! mike kinda depends on what you want the results to be. if you want nice red juicy tomatoes you are better off using the processed oats that would command a premium price over the fresh material. denny .