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From : ben there

Q: tbone wrote really from who you are the one that keeps saying hybrids have been out for years. then there should easily be many with over 100000 miles on the road. it doesnt take 5 years or more to find 100k plus vehicles. or do these people you talk about who buy them not really drive them you claimed that you only drive 15000 or so a year and so what makes you thing there should be so many with these vehicles that drive them more. you are the one saying that the only people that buy them are tree huggers anyway and most tree huggers dont put high mileage in their cars to begin with as that would be wasteful. at 10000 miles a year it will take 10 years to reach that level and even at 15.000 you are still looking at around 7. then lets add in that they have really only gotten popular in the last 2 to 3 years so sorry miles it is still to soon to drop the hammer yet. it is not that it causes no problems but there is no way to stop it. we will always be dependant on foreign oil in one form or another and if we use up all of ours first trying to do the impossible then we will really be sol. you keep talking about using up all of ours 1st. you liberals wont even let us find oil for the future. you dont give a rats ass about our oil in the future. oh boo hoo miles. it is not that the ones you call liberals dont care its that they know that you conservatives will just stay on the same course unless forced to change and you are a perfect example of it. you say that you want newer fuels developed and yet are unwilling to do a damn thing about it unless forced to. i would rather us be forced to do it now while we still have oil to fall back on if things dont work unlike you who will use oil blindly until we are out and then complain that nothing was done about it. remember miles unless it is economically feasible costs you less you and those like you will do nothing. i notice that you now added pumping to your definition. i guess that you are learning after all. it doesnt require anywheres near the same drilling infrastructure to explore either. geez are you naive. exploratory drilling has been done worldwide and in some cases in the usa. please point me to proof of the destructive nature of exploratory drilling you talk about. http//www.ran.org/oilreport/ you really make no sense tbone. above you say youre concerned about using our oil first now you say you dont want to find or use any of ours. make up your mind. lol must you constantly resort to spinning. the fact is that there is tons of exploration going on already and with our global economy it really doesnt matter where it comes from and with that in mind why damage or destroy the few pristine wildlife reserves we have left since it will do nothing for either the price or our national security. just because pumping may not happen at the time of drilling it will or there would be no point in drilling to begin with and there are people that dont want to see the few pristine wilderness areas we have left destroyed so some assholes and drive around in huge suvs and trucks that they have no real need for. if we dont drill then why are you worried about using our oil first you dont want to ever find it let alone use it. because you cant find it without drilling and the damage that comes from doing it. the simple fact is that we dont need it and even if we find it we have no way to refine it. and when you are exploring in a remote area you need to build everything required for the people doing the drilling to live and work near the site so the infrastructure is very much there. oh really tbone please show proof of this massive infrastrucuture that exists in places where exploratory drilling has taken place. what do those areas look like today please show some proof of the massive destruction to these explored sites. look above. you keep asking for proof and have yet to provide anything to back up anything that you have said so far. hell most of what you have said has been wrong. perhaps you should do a little research. lol spinning again i see i didnt say that nobody does exploratory drilling i said that it is no different than actual drilling.. the same equipment is being used and the same infrastructure needs to be set up for either one as far as the drilling goes and the same dangers exist. then show me some references to these explored sites where the area today is destroyed from all this infrastructure. look on the web miles. it is out there. of course you will just say that it is complaints from tree huggers and means nothing and i would expect nothing different from you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .