Sprinter van rust
From : bobeau
Q: my 2004 arctic white sprinter van is showing rust on roof seams and on the lower front door panels just behind the wheels. does anyone else have this problem what can be done about this earlier spot touch-ups have held up well but now the extent of the rust is major. mechanically this vehicle has been rock solid. its a shame that so much rust would appear after only 2 years of service. .
Replies:
From : christopher thompson
take it to your dealer ask about the corrosion warranty have the service manager and the regional rep take a look at it. worst they can say is no its not covered. with a little prodding you may be able to get them to come to a compromise if they are not willing to cover the body under warr. -- -chris 05 ctd 99 durango 06 liberty crd on thu 27 apr 2006 153425 gmt advocate advo@hotmail.com wrote he still has a valid argument...no three year old vehicle should ever suffer from major surface rust. i live in the snow belt of the u.s. where salt applied to the roads which causes excessive corrision on vehicles. i have a 1997 ford contour with 109000 miles that doesnt have a spec of rust. you may not see it but it is there if not on surface in the chassis and its parts. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : snoman
on thu 27 apr 2006 153425 gmt advocate advo@hotmail.com wrote he still has a valid argument...no three year old vehicle should ever suffer from major surface rust. i live in the snow belt of the u.s. where salt applied to the roads which causes excessive corrision on vehicles. i have a 1997 ford contour with 109000 miles that doesnt have a spec of rust. you may not see it but it is there if not on surface in the chassis and its parts. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : geekboy
i think there is a warranty for that my 2004 arctic white sprinter van is showing rust on roof seams and on the lower front door panels just behind the wheels. does anyone else have this problem what can be done about this earlier spot touch-ups have held up well but now the extent of the rust is major. mechanically this vehicle has been rock solid. its a shame that so much rust would appear after only 2 years of service. .
From : snoman
on wed 26 apr 2006 213919 -0700 geekboy haha@hehe.com wrote i think there is a warranty for that there is but usually it is for rust through not surface rust. try some rust converter on it before you touch it up. it works well. ----------------- the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : geekboy
on wed 26 apr 2006 213919 -0700 geekboy haha@hehe.com wrote i think there is a warranty for that there is but usually it is for rust through not surface rust. try some rust converter on it before you touch it up. it works well. ----------------- it apears the surface rust is covered. this came straight from the sprinter owners manual. ----------------------------- b. whats covered this warranty covers the cost of all parts and labor needed to repair or replace any sheet metal panels that get holes from rust or other corrosion. if a hole occurs because of something other than corrosion this warranty does not apply. cosmetic or surface corrosion - resulting for example from stone chips or scratches in the paint - is not covered. for more details on what isnt covered by this warranty see 3.6. this warranty has two time-and-mileage limits .. for sheet metal panels the limit is 36 months with no mileage limit. .. for an outer-body sheet metal panel - one that is finish-painted and that someone can see when walking around the vehicle - the limits are 5 years or 100000 miles on the odometer whichever occurs first. 3.6 certain kinds of corrosion not covered your warranties dont cover the following .. corrosion caused by accident damage abuse or vehicle alteration; .. surface corrosion caused by such things as industrial fallout sand salt hail and stones; .. corrosion caused by the extensive or abnormal transport of caustic materials like chemicals acids and fertilizers; and .. corrosion of special bodies body conversions or equipment not made or supplied by daimlerchrysler corporation or daimlerchrysler. the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : tbone
perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on wed 26 apr 2006 213919 -0700 geekboy haha@hehe.com wrote i think there is a warranty for that there is but usually it is for rust through not surface rust. try some rust converter on it before you touch it up. it works well. ----------------- it apears the surface rust is covered. this came straight from the sprinter owners manual. ----------------------------- b. whats covered this warranty covers the cost of all parts and labor needed to repair or replace any sheet metal panels that get holes from rust or other corrosion. if a hole occurs because of something other than corrosion this warranty does not apply. cosmetic or surface corrosion - resulting for example from stone chips or scratches in the paint - is not covered. for more details on what isnt covered by this warranty see 3.6. this warranty has two time-and-mileage limits . for sheet metal panels the limit is 36 months with no mileage limit. . for an outer-body sheet metal panel - one that is finish-painted and that someone can see when walking around the vehicle - the limits are 5 years or 100000 miles on the odometer whichever occurs first. 3.6 certain kinds of corrosion not covered your warranties dont cover the following . corrosion caused by accident damage abuse or vehicle alteration; . surface corrosion caused by such things as industrial fallout sand salt hail and stones; . corrosion caused by the extensive or abnormal transport of caustic materials like chemicals acids and fertilizers; and . corrosion of special bodies body conversions or equipment not made or supplied by daimlerchrysler corporation or daimlerchrysler. the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : geekboy
perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. no. you need to reread it. what is not covered .. surface corrosion caused by such things as industrial fallout sand salt hail and stones; -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on wed 26 apr 2006 213919 -0700 geekboy haha@hehe.com wrote i think there is a warranty for that there is but usually it is for rust through not surface rust. try some rust converter on it before you touch it up. it works well. ----------------- it apears the surface rust is covered. this came straight from the sprinter owners manual. ----------------------------- b. whats covered this warranty covers the cost of all parts and labor needed to repair or replace any sheet metal panels that get holes from rust or other corrosion. if a hole occurs because of something other than corrosion this warranty does not apply. cosmetic or surface corrosion - resulting for example from stone chips or scratches in the paint - is not covered. for more details on what isnt covered by this warranty see 3.6. this warranty has two time-and-mileage limits . for sheet metal panels the limit is 36 months with no mileage limit. . for an outer-body sheet metal panel - one that is finish-painted and that someone can see when walking around the vehicle - the limits are 5 years or 100000 miles on the odometer whichever occurs first. 3.6 certain kinds of corrosion not covered your warranties dont cover the following . corrosion caused by accident damage abuse or vehicle alteration; . surface corrosion caused by such things as industrial fallout sand salt hail and stones; . corrosion caused by the extensive or abnormal transport of caustic materials like chemicals acids and fertilizers; and . corrosion of special bodies body conversions or equipment not made or supplied by daimlerchrysler corporation or daimlerchrysler. the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : advocate
perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. he still has a valid argument...no three year old vehicle should ever suffer from major surface rust. i live in the snow belt of the u.s. where salt applied to the roads which causes excessive corrision on vehicles. i have a 1997 ford contour with 109000 miles that doesnt have a spec of rust. the rust he is experiencing is due to a defective prep at the factory. perhaps the metal surface was dirty before applying the primer coat perhaps the primer was too thin or maybe it wasnt applied at all. if his dealer claims the vehicle isnt covered under warranty he should contact the regional office to complain. if he gets no satisfaction there he should keep going up the ladder until he reaches detroit. the owner should also contact his states attorney general for assistence. they handle issues like this daily. when you see excessive rust like this in a new vehicle it is not from external issues. something is happening beneath the paint. .
From : geekboy
perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. he still has a valid argument...no three year old vehicle should ever suffer from major surface rust. i live in the snow belt of the u.s. where salt applied to the roads which causes excessive corrision on vehicles. i have a 1997 ford contour with 109000 miles that doesnt have a spec of rust. the rust he is experiencing is due to a defective prep at the factory. perhaps the metal surface was dirty before applying the primer coat perhaps the primer was too thin or maybe it wasnt applied at all. if his dealer claims the vehicle isnt covered under warranty he should contact the regional office to complain. if he gets no satisfaction there he should keep going up the ladder until he reaches detroit. the owner should also contact his states attorney general for assistence. they handle issues like this daily. when you see excessive rust like this in a new vehicle it is not from external issues. something is happening beneath the paint. well you are trying to tell this to someone who calls a black man a racist for saying facts about other black people. .
From : tbone
this warranty does not apply. cosmetic or surface corrosion - resulting for example from stone chips or scratches in the paint - is not covered. this is a cut and paste from the text you provided pinhead. maybe you should learn how to comprehend what you read even these simple sentences. perhaps you could try and get them on paint failure but not just because of surface rust. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. no. you need to reread it. what is not covered . surface corrosion caused by such things as industrial fallout sand salt hail and stones; -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on wed 26 apr 2006 213919 -0700 geekboy haha@hehe.com wrote i think there is a warranty for that there is but usually it is for rust through not surface rust. try some rust converter on it before you touch it up. it works well. ----------------- it apears the surface rust is covered. this came straight from the sprinter owners manual. ----------------------------- b. whats covered this warranty covers the cost of all parts and labor needed to repair or replace any sheet metal panels that get holes from rust or other corrosion. if a hole occurs because of something other than corrosion this warranty does not apply. cosmetic or surface corrosion - resulting for example from stone chips or scratches in the paint - is not covered. for more details on what isnt covered by this warranty see 3.6. this warranty has two time-and-mileage limits . for sheet metal panels the limit is 36 months with no mileage limit. . for an outer-body sheet metal panel - one that is finish-painted and that someone can see when walking around the vehicle - the limits are 5 years or 100000 miles on the odometer whichever occurs first. 3.6 certain kinds of corrosion not covered your warranties dont cover the following . corrosion caused by accident damage abuse or vehicle alteration; . surface corrosion caused by such things as industrial fallout sand salt hail and stones; . corrosion caused by the extensive or abnormal transport of caustic materials like chemicals acids and fertilizers; and . corrosion of special bodies body conversions or equipment not made or supplied by daimlerchrysler corporation or daimlerchrysler. the snoman www.thesnoman.com .
From : tbone
perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. he still has a valid argument...no three year old vehicle should ever suffer from major surface rust. i live in the snow belt of the u.s. where salt applied to the roads which causes excessive corrision on vehicles. i have a 1997 ford contour with 109000 miles that doesnt have a spec of rust. the rust he is experiencing is due to a defective prep at the factory. perhaps the metal surface was dirty before applying the primer coat perhaps the primer was too thin or maybe it wasnt applied at all. if his dealer claims the vehicle isnt covered under warranty he should contact the regional office to complain. if he gets no satisfaction there he should keep going up the ladder until he reaches detroit. the owner should also contact his states attorney general for assistence. they handle issues like this daily. when you see excessive rust like this in a new vehicle it is not from external issues. something is happening beneath the paint. well you are trying to tell this to someone who calls a black man a racist for saying facts about other black people. please show me exactly where in the definition it talks about the race of the person making the statement and dont worry ill wait. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. he still has a valid argument...no three year old vehicle should ever suffer from major surface rust. i live in the snow belt of the u.s. where salt applied to the roads which causes excessive corrision on vehicles. i have a 1997 ford contour with 109000 miles that doesnt have a spec of rust. the rust he is experiencing is due to a defective prep at the factory. perhaps the metal surface was dirty before applying the primer coat perhaps the primer was too thin or maybe it wasnt applied at all. if his dealer claims the vehicle isnt covered under warranty he should contact the regional office to complain. if he gets no satisfaction there he should keep going up the ladder until he reaches detroit. the owner should also contact his states attorney general for assistence. they handle issues like this daily. can you prove that beyond all reasonabel doubt that it was the paint that failed. perhaps he washed it with paint thinner or acid and damaged the paint or compounded the paint right off of it. i am not saying that this happened but you have no way of saying that he didnt. if he can prove paint failure then they should fix it but ..... when you see excessive rust like this in a new vehicle it is not from external issues. something is happening beneath the paint. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. he still has a valid argument...no three year old vehicle should ever suffer from major surface rust. i live in the snow belt of the u.s. where salt applied to the roads which causes excessive corrision on vehicles. i have a 1997 ford contour with 109000 miles that doesnt have a spec of rust. the rust he is experiencing is due to a defective prep at the factory. perhaps the metal surface was dirty before applying the primer coat perhaps the primer was too thin or maybe it wasnt applied at all. if his dealer claims the vehicle isnt covered under warranty he should contact the regional office to complain. if he gets no satisfaction there he should keep going up the ladder until he reaches detroit. the owner should also contact his states attorney general for assistence. they handle issues like this daily. can you prove that beyond all reasonabel doubt that it was the paint that failed. perhaps he washed it with paint thinner or acid and damaged the paint or compounded the paint right off of it. i am not saying that this happened but you have no way of saying that he didnt. if he can prove paint failure then they should fix it but ..... see what i mean..i think its time to plonk bone head be my guest moron but are you sure you can figure out how. with your comprehension of the rust warranty i sorta doubt it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : bobeau
thanks for all the advice. i am proceeding............... christopher thompson wrote take it to your dealer ask about the corrosion warranty have the service manager and the regional rep take a look at it. worst they can say is no its not covered. with a little prodding you may be able to get them to come to a compromise if they are not willing to cover the body under warr. .
From : geekboy
perhaps you should read it again. it clearly states holes from rust or other corrosion not just rust or corrosion. iow if it does not rust thru no repair. in fact it clearly states that cosmetic or surface corrosion is not covered. he still has a valid argument...no three year old vehicle should ever suffer from major surface rust. i live in the snow belt of the u.s. where salt applied to the roads which causes excessive corrision on vehicles. i have a 1997 ford contour with 109000 miles that doesnt have a spec of rust. the rust he is experiencing is due to a defective prep at the factory. perhaps the metal surface was dirty before applying the primer coat perhaps the primer was too thin or maybe it wasnt applied at all. if his dealer claims the vehicle isnt covered under warranty he should contact the regional office to complain. if he gets no satisfaction there he should keep going up the ladder until he reaches detroit. the owner should also contact his states attorney general for assistence. they handle issues like this daily. can you prove that beyond all reasonabel doubt that it was the paint that failed. perhaps he washed it with paint thinner or acid and damaged the paint or compounded the paint right off of it. i am not saying that this happened but you have no way of saying that he didnt. if he can prove paint failure then they should fix it but ..... see what i mean..i think its time to plonk bone head when you see excessive rust like this in a new vehicle it is not from external issues. something is happening beneath the paint. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .