Spark Plug thoughts needed:
From : james1549
Q: for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
Replies:
From : rick blaine
thats not an answer! what the fuck do you want why dont you re-read the original post. and that is the question that was asked and you cant answer it either. my wife has an intrepid and they are easy to change the plugs on but the ram is not especially the back ones and forget about that cap and wires. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i dont know why dc doesnt use platinum plug in all their vehicles but they sure do in some of them. my intrepid2000 is one. recommended change interval i believe is 100000 miles. but i wouldnt care if they had used copper plug replacement is not a difficult job on this car. on my father in-laws aerostar that is another matter plug replacement is a real hassle so platinum is the way to go. i dont believe there is any other advantage to platinum than long life and the reason most auto makers use them now is more of a marketing tool than anything else. if that is all that it is then why doesnt dc just put platinum plugs in their vehicles and make the long time between tune-ups claim like gm and for that matter why do so many of the people that put platinum plugs in themselves then complain that the truck runs like crap afterwards your answer just creates more questions. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving gee do ya think its possible the gm thing had platinum plugs and the durango had copper geez. if i could i would but i am one of the ones that would also like an honest answer to that question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : tbone
tbone wrote are the plugs cap and wires easier to change in the cummins g much easier. cheaper too! cool i guess thats why it costs more. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : daniel j sterntbone
on mon 29 dec 2003 mopar man wrote why did daimler merge/buy chrysler because they saw chrysler repeatedly bring concept cars to market in record time and figured that by assimilating chrysler they could speed up their own frozen-molasses speed of innovation. and that explains why they swept the year-2000 hemi-c concept under the rug never to be seen again and the charger concept also shown at the 2000 detroit auto show nonsequitur. read what i wrote again more carefully this time. unfortunately for them virtually every last bit of the engineering and design talent that powered chrysler jumped ship at or shortly after the takeover. while that sounds romantic and it might be true and there is even reason to believe it is true can anyone point to any exodus of design or styling talent from chrysler yep. bob lutz is one of a *great* many. anything published by any automotive rag along those lines automotive yes but i dont expect you read industry publications -- you strike me as more of a consumer reports guy or maybe car and driver...someone who likes magazines that do his thinking for him. yea well like i said youre not seeing chryslers turning up in europe because of this merger. another nonsequitur. if there was an assimilation ....if ds .
From : tbone
now read this v e r y s l o w l y. he asked why chrysler did not use the technology available and used by other manufacturers to extend the time between tune-ups and your answer was platinum plugs and finished with i dont know why dc doesnt use platinum plug in all their vehicles but they sure do in some of them. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving thats not an answer! what the fuck do you want why dont you re-read the original post. and that is the question that was asked and you cant answer it either. my wife has an intrepid and they are easy to change the plugs on but the ram is not especially the back ones and forget about that cap and wires. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i dont know why dc doesnt use platinum plug in all their vehicles but they sure do in some of them. my intrepid2000 is one. recommended change interval i believe is 100000 miles. but i wouldnt care if they had used copper plug replacement is not a difficult job on this car. on my father in-laws aerostar that is another matter plug replacement is a real hassle so platinum is the way to go. i dont believe there is any other advantage to platinum than long life and the reason most auto makers use them now is more of a marketing tool than anything else. if that is all that it is then why doesnt dc just put platinum plugs in their vehicles and make the long time between tune-ups claim like gm and for that matter why do so many of the people that put platinum plugs in themselves then complain that the truck runs like crap afterwards your answer just creates more questions. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving gee do ya think its possible the gm thing had platinum plugs and the durango had copper geez. if i could i would but i am one of the ones that would also like an honest answer to that question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : tbone
are the plugs cap and wires easier to change in the cummins g -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wife has an intrepid and they are easy to change the plugs on but the ram is not especially the back ones and forget about that cap and wires. thats why you buy either the 4.7 or hemi or cummins g ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .
From : rick blaine
this thread has turned from just stupid to completely idiotic and irrelevant. now ill let you have the last word as im sure you are dying to. now read this v e r y s l o w l y. he asked why chrysler did not use the technology available and used by other manufacturers to extend the time between tune-ups and your answer was platinum plugs and finished with i dont know why dc doesnt use platinum plug in all their vehicles but they sure do in some of them. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving thats not an answer! what the fuck do you want why dont you re-read the original post. and that is the question that was asked and you cant answer it either. my wife has an intrepid and they are easy to change the plugs on but the ram is not especially the back ones and forget about that cap and wires. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i dont know why dc doesnt use platinum plug in all their vehicles but they sure do in some of them. my intrepid2000 is one. recommended change interval i believe is 100000 miles. but i wouldnt care if they had used copper plug replacement is not a difficult job on this car. on my father in-laws aerostar that is another matter plug replacement is a real hassle so platinum is the way to go. i dont believe there is any other advantage to platinum than long life and the reason most auto makers use them now is more of a marketing tool than anything else. if that is all that it is then why doesnt dc just put platinum plugs in their vehicles and make the long time between tune-ups claim like gm and for that matter why do so many of the people that put platinum plugs in themselves then complain that the truck runs like crap afterwards your answer just creates more questions. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving gee do ya think its possible the gm thing had platinum plugs and the durango had copper geez. if i could i would but i am one of the ones that would also like an honest answer to that question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : tbone
gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : rick blaine
you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : nosey
james1549 wrote for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. you could try putting ac delco plugs in your durango and see how many miles you get out of them. happy new year! .
From : tbone
if i could i would but i am one of the ones that would also like an honest answer to that question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : Annonymous
well no one has really answered the question yet. it is reallt curious as to why dodge recommends changing them so soon. i had a suburban that i changed the plugs twice in 285k miles and they still looked ok and i couldnt tell any difference. i just did it cause it seemed like the right thing to do. i just had my 99 pu at the dealer for another engine problem and they changed out the plugs too. someone on this list suggested that i change them but i thought that was too simple. now i believe they were right. i just got hosed at the dealership. jim gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : rick blaine
gee do ya think its possible the gm thing had platinum plugs and the durango had copper geez. if i could i would but i am one of the ones that would also like an honest answer to that question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : tbone
if that is all that it is then why doesnt dc just put platinum plugs in their vehicles and make the long time between tune-ups claim like gm and for that matter why do so many of the people that put platinum plugs in themselves then complain that the truck runs like crap afterwards your answer just creates more questions. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving gee do ya think its possible the gm thing had platinum plugs and the durango had copper geez. if i could i would but i am one of the ones that would also like an honest answer to that question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : rick blaine
i dont know why dc doesnt use platinum plug in all their vehicles but they sure do in some of them. my intrepid2000 is one. recommended change interval i believe is 100000 miles. but i wouldnt care if they had used copper plug replacement is not a difficult job on this car. on my father in-laws aerostar that is another matter plug replacement is a real hassle so platinum is the way to go. i dont believe there is any other advantage to platinum than long life and the reason most auto makers use them now is more of a marketing tool than anything else. if that is all that it is then why doesnt dc just put platinum plugs in their vehicles and make the long time between tune-ups claim like gm and for that matter why do so many of the people that put platinum plugs in themselves then complain that the truck runs like crap afterwards your answer just creates more questions. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving gee do ya think its possible the gm thing had platinum plugs and the durango had copper geez. if i could i would but i am one of the ones that would also like an honest answer to that question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : tbone
and that is the question that was asked and you cant answer it either. my wife has an intrepid and they are easy to change the plugs on but the ram is not especially the back ones and forget about that cap and wires. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i dont know why dc doesnt use platinum plug in all their vehicles but they sure do in some of them. my intrepid2000 is one. recommended change interval i believe is 100000 miles. but i wouldnt care if they had used copper plug replacement is not a difficult job on this car. on my father in-laws aerostar that is another matter plug replacement is a real hassle so platinum is the way to go. i dont believe there is any other advantage to platinum than long life and the reason most auto makers use them now is more of a marketing tool than anything else. if that is all that it is then why doesnt dc just put platinum plugs in their vehicles and make the long time between tune-ups claim like gm and for that matter why do so many of the people that put platinum plugs in themselves then complain that the truck runs like crap afterwards your answer just creates more questions. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving gee do ya think its possible the gm thing had platinum plugs and the durango had copper geez. if i could i would but i am one of the ones that would also like an honest answer to that question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you answer it then. gee what a helpful answer to a honest question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : nosey
tbone wrote are the plugs cap and wires easier to change in the cummins g much easier. cheaper too! .
From : rick blaine
better sell your durango and go buy another generic motors heap. for years i have owned gm cars but recently wanted to try something different. i bought an 01 durango 4.7 about a year ago. it just recently turned 40k on the odomoeter. i am guilty of not reading the owners manual but was surprised to find out that the spark plugs should be changed at 30k! why is dc so behind on this technology i help maintain a fleet of cars for my company. the fleet mainly consists of late model s blazers astros and awd safari vans. also many of our 99 models are approaching 200k. at 100k the cap rotor wires & plugs get changed out. but most of the plugs we remove look like they were just put in last month. these are the original a/c plugs from the factory when the car was new! by accident we let one astro slip thru and didnt get to change the plugs out until 170k. they difinitely looked worn but could go farther if needed. so why do i read on this group about everyone changing out plugs at such low mileage on their durango/dakotas dc needs to get on the stick here! how can one manufacturer be so different from the other with the same technology available to them just curious james merry christmas. .
From : redneck tookover hell
wife has an intrepid and they are easy to change the plugs on but the ram is not especially the back ones and forget about that cap and wires. thats why you buy either the 4.7 or hemi or cummins g ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .