Somewhat OT: Bad karma and social problems

From : jmc

Q: can anyone tell me what type of bulbs go into the fog lights as replacements would rather buy the bulb before pulling the light assembly apart. thanks for your help. . 222 324482 lzj0h.959$wb2.583@fe22.lga i need to change the radio in a 2001 durango. what holds the trim piece around it does it just pop out .

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From : denny

ill probably be dizzy by the time i get doneg im not gonna touch it.. my mom raised me better...nope im resisting the temptation...i quit smoking so i can do this..... im starting to hurt inside.. god help me................ vbg denny .

From : roy

for anyone that might beinterested here is the link to the autoweek article about the f-150 diesel http//www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articleaid=/20061011/free/61009011/1024 / i guess im surprised it would be an 8 cylinder. .

From : denny

by god!! i think you might be on to something! if we slathered horseradish on whiteys and ate em we could probably reduce our dependence on foreign natural gas overnight! ...back to the lab... mike dont get near any sparks............... denny .

From : chris thompson

i would like to see the mb diesel in the dakota that would be a positive for that line in my opinion. but who cares what i think andy i would like to see a hemi in the dakota. .

From : Annonymous

on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a mi

From : Annonymous

on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny .

From : miles

on wed 1 nov 2006 215533 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 204807 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. i wont tell ya what lobster eat. use to get them right out of the trap and cookem right on the boat with a little butter man that is the way to go. roy out here the only way to get them is frozen. i think that is why i am not a big lobster guy. everyone i spoke to about my infomercial says that fresh they are really good. guy if this helps you any i am from the east coast have had wc burgers and would rather drink unfiltered water out of the tap from a turkish restaurant! yeah that pretty much clears that up. good! thought for a bit you were going to fall for the rabbit and mikes stories. .

From : azwiley1

chris thompson wrote my 318 powered half ton wasnt any better than my v10 powered 3/4. i got better mpg with my 360 1/2 ton than my 318 1/2 ton. a few friends that have the v10 tell me they are lucky to get 10 or 11mpg city with it. i got better than that with both the 318 and 360. .

From : chris thompson

is he ok no!!!! .

From : roy

the market for 6-cyl 1/2 tons is rather small. theyre often bought stripped and used by construction firms to carry a tool box etc. to construction sites. they need the bed to carry somewhat bulky but not all that heavy equipment etc. why buy a 6 cylinder 1/2 ton when you can get a 1/4 ton cheaper and get better gas mileage i would agree the market for 6 cylinder 1/2 tons is small. but if it had a small 6 cylinder diesel in it that would be a different story. .

From : Annonymous

if anyone would like i can shoot them a picture of the control unit i have. mine doesnt have the telephone cord style harness. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i steer with my left shift and control with my right. the harness on the hiniker is long enough that i can hold it in my hand while i shift...if necessary. its a toggle as well and i do like it a ton. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i dont know. as it is now before they decide to cut i cant spin the wheel hard or fast with my right. i figure to do the steering and shift with the left and plow control with the right. it is totally backwards but with a hand held ill be able to position and support my right so it will be comfortable i hope. being able to move it a bit will i think make it easier as the hours build. roy denny roy now it you could find a wireless or voice activated unit..... denny .

From : craig c

thank you craig for proving my point so precisely. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote something you advocate like in keep the christians down baby how many murders does it take to be a murderer how many bigotries to be a bigot http//homepage.mac.com/mcraigchr/budd.htm craig c. -- facts fakts -noun the pesky things that get in the way of religious doctrine. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

i agree. im with bellsouth dsl and i absolutely love it. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels bigironram wrote i just got migrated to road runner from comcast.net. i had to do the usual reboot of modems and routers and immediately lost 90%+ of my internet speed and access to giga comcasts outsourced nntp server. not happy called road runner busy signal sent message no response okay automated response just came in yet. ive checked dslreports.com and found lots of unhappy campers there. very poor service reported over there. i think i need an alternative dsl is probably out im about 24000 feet from the co. im thinking of going with dish network and wonder if anybody has any comments on that its high the platinum service is $80.00 for 1.5 mbs pretty slow compared to what im used to. i may bail out altogether. this is pretty frustrating. i just saw this in dfw.internet.providers. i feel for ya. all i can say is that im really happy with my dsl service. i know my addy says verizon but im actually with sbc. its about the only thing sbc does right. check again for dsl and switch to it if you can. good luck. bob .

From : beekeep

azwiley1 wrote miles hows things up north these days doing pretty good. business is great. finally starting to get some nice weather. is the wind still blowing down there i dont think ive visited on a no wind day! i need to get down there one of these days. nice area. .

From : azwiley1

ctyguy wrote bobandcarole777@hotmail.com says... http//worldnetdaily.com//article.asparticleid=52244 apparently rep. mark foley is homosexual. and like many homosexual men he likes young teen boys. we should pray for him or hang him by his nutz lol that does sound like an acceptable solution. that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. meanwhile we need to wake up. the fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesnt stop us from continuing to elevate such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids. .

From : azwiley1

on wed 1 nov 2006 095645 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard ...better... mike i havent eaten any since college. used to buy them by the bag @ 25 cents each back then. called them belly burners but they were good. beekeep .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

miles hows things up north these days roy wrote most have issues or stress of one sort or another. it does not give them the right to be a idiot. kinda like you walk into a bar and get a smack in the head and somebody says you have to excuse them cause they are drunk. i dont think so. i like ron whites story about getting drunk in a bar and being tossed out into the street. the police arrest him for being drunk in public. he complains that he was drunk in the bar and got thrown out into public. .

From : roy

on wed 1 nov 2006 204807 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. i wont tell ya what lobster eat. use to get them right out of the trap and cookem right on the boat with a little butter man that is the way to go. roy out here the only way to get them is frozen. i think that is why i am not a big lobster guy. everyone i spoke to about my infomercial says that fresh they are really good. guy if this helps you any i am from the east coast have had wc burgers and would rather drink unfiltered water out of the tap from a turkish restaurant! .

From : roy

theguy@whatever.net wrote in all fairness i think there may be some health issues involved at least thats what i read into it. that is tough and there is very little more stressfull than health issues. could be. i have some very serious health issues myself. they get me down and i get into bad moods. but i like to think i dont take it out on others. hope i dont! .

From : roy

ill probably be dizzy by the time i get doneg im not gonna touch it.. my mom raised me better...nope im resisting the temptation...i quit smoking so i can do this..... im starting to hurt inside.. god help me................ vbg yadayadayada. roy denny .

From : roy

am not a big lobster guy. everyone i spoke to about my infomercial says that fresh they are really good. they are really good. especially in a little bun with some cooked onions............ denny .

From : miles

roy wrote most have issues or stress of one sort or another. it does not give them the right to be a idiot. kinda like you walk into a bar and get a smack in the head and somebody says you have to excuse them cause they are drunk. i dont think so. i like ron whites story about getting drunk in a bar and being tossed out into the street. the police arrest him for being drunk in public. he complains that he was drunk in the bar and got thrown out into public. yup hes a real funny guy. ive one of his dvds around here. roy .

From : roy

i steer with my left shift and control with my right. the harness on the hiniker is long enough that i can hold it in my hand while i shift...if necessary. its a toggle as well and i do like it a ton. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i dont know. as it is now before they decide to cut i cant spin the wheel hard or fast with my right. i figure to do the steering and shift with the left and plow control with the right. it is totally backwards but with a hand held ill be able to position and support my right so it will be comfortable i hope. being able to move it a bit will i think make it easier as the hours build. roy denny roy now it you could find a wireless or voice activated unit..... denny .

From : miles

theguy@whatever.net wrote in all fairness i think there may be some health issues involved at least thats what i read into it. that is tough and there is very little more stressfull than health issues. could be. i have some very serious health issues myself. they get me down and i get into bad moods. but i like to think i dont take it out on others. hope i dont! most have issues or stress of one sort or another. it does not give them the right to be a idiot. kinda like you walk into a bar and get a smack in the head and somebody says you have to excuse them cause they are drunk. i dont think so. .

From : denny

pokee wrote my husband got rear-ended in his brand new dodge ram powerwagon sniff! yesterday and the only real damage appears to be to the bumper cant say the same is true for the other car!. the hitch is scratched but appears fine. i have heard from friends that hitch damage is sometimes invisible to the naked eye hairline cracks that can comprmise the hitch in some way. were taking it to the claims adjuster tomorrow. if the hitch should be replaced and the adjuster does not include this in the repairs id like to be armed with some written documentation that states it is a safety issue not to replace hitches that are involved in a rear collision. is there any information i can get online i called dodge and our dealer and neither of them were any help. if it is a good idea to get it replaced well do it anyway. wed just like to have the insurance company pay for it if we can. thank you paula if the adjuster wont do it tell him you pull a $80000.00 boat and would like in writing that his ins.co is willing to take full responsibility for any hitch failure and death when it comes free. .

From : roy

on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. i doubt the homeland security will let ya ship those suckers. s-l-i-d-e-r-s..... not suckers..... hey i just saw the post in the ford group about the abomidable snoman.... roflmfao whatever happened to your old buddy that was a thing of beauty wasnt it. as long as he isnt here i dont care where he goes.. if he returns i think the same action will send him away. hey i forgot hes your neighbor!! and youre gonna go right past him on your way north. be sure to stop and say hi for me ill probably have to pick ya up there! g roy denny .

From : roy

on wed 1 nov 2006 204807 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. i wont tell ya what lobster eat. use to get them right out of the trap and cookem right on the boat with a little butter man that is the way to go. roy out here the only way to get them is frozen. i think that is why i am not a big lobster guy. everyone i spoke to about my infomercial says that fresh they are really good. they are really good. especially in a little bun with some cooked onions............ lobster and onions!! wtf!!!!! denny .

From : denny

hey!! what the hell ya been drinking you buying into these two your going from lobster to haz mat! bfg theguy has finially seen the light. ole mike can keep a case nice-n-warm on his heated seat while he delivers them. i can see a side job developing right now. denny ya going to let mike use the machine for the trip roy hell have to pick it up from ole red when he gets out that way. that is if mac didnt take it across the border. i heard that mac is running on a genset for the time being. hope its a biggun if hes using the maching on it yup red sent macs note along. seems like it may be taking longer than expected for him to get it all up and running. rpoy denny .

From : denny

on wed 1 nov 2006 204807 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. i wont tell ya what lobster eat. use to get them right out of the trap and cookem right on the boat with a little butter man that is the way to go. roy out here the only way to get them is frozen. i think that is why i am not a big lobster guy. everyone i spoke to about my infomercial says that fresh they are really good. they are some will ship them fresh overnight. try www.thefreshlobstercompany.com 1-508-451-2487 .

From : denny

on thu 02 nov 2006 013032 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. denny sorry denny but you pretty much let the cat out of the bag as to how good those burgers are. i think you just hit on what they are made from!g no-no thats chinese food. denny .

From : denny

on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it!

From : roy

but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. i doubt the homeland security will let ya ship those suckers. s-l-i-d-e-r-s..... not suckers..... hey i just saw the post in the ford group about the abomidable snoman.... roflmfao whatever happened to your old buddy that was a thing of beauty wasnt it. as long as he isnt here i dont care where he goes.. if he returns i think the same action will send him away. hey i forgot hes your neighbor!! and youre gonna go right past him on your way north. be sure to stop and say hi for me denny .

From : denny

hey!! what the hell ya been drinking you buying into these two your going from lobster to haz mat! bfg theguy has finially seen the light. ole mike can keep a case nice-n-warm on his heated seat while he delivers them. i can see a side job developing right now. denny ya going to let mike use the machine for the trip roy hell have to pick it up from ole red when he gets out that way. that is if mac didnt take it across the border. i heard that mac is running on a genset for the time being. hope its a biggun if hes using the maching on it denny .

From : roy

on wed 1 nov 2006 204807 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. i wont tell ya what lobster eat. use to get them right out of the trap and cookem right on the boat with a little butter man that is the way to go. roy out here the only way to get them is frozen. i think

From : denny

the cartoon was funny. but gotta tell ya the sig is a bit much imo but then again it is your sig. ya gotta do what feels good.g i saw it on a bumper sticker today. intense ... but applicable in certain situations. craig c. .

From : roy

on thu 02 nov 2006 015821 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011020 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 193429 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard lets just say they are an acquired taste.. g the size of a dinner roll with a wedge of meat cooked in onion bits and a limp pickle slice. slap on a piece of cheese and a bit on bacon and youll be guarenteed to not be constipated for at least a week. they are also known as sliders. denny wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. pal you want no part of wc! roy hmmm. see being a west coaster i always heard that wc was the top dog in burgers not sure how big a compliment that is. interesting. just ask yourself a little question......... would me and ole mike ever lead you astray denny no way. i mean if i cant trust you guys who can i trust hey!! what the hell ya been drinking you buying into these two your going from lobster to haz mat! bfg theguy has finially seen the light. ole mike can keep a case nice-n-warm on his heated seat while he delivers them. i can see a side job developing right now. denny you guys are killing me. you eat those friggin things and youll wish they had .

From : Annonymous

on thu 02 nov 2006 013032 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. denny sorry denny but you pretty much let the cat out of the bag as to how good those burgers are. i think you just hit on what they are made from!g .

From : Annonymous

on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. i doubt the homeland security will let ya ship those suckers. s-l-i-d-e-r-s..... not suckers..... hey i just saw the post in the ford group about the abomidable snoman.... roflmfao whatever happened to your old buddy that was a thing of beauty wasnt it. as long as he isnt here i dont care where he goes.. if he returns i think the same action will send him away. hey i forgot hes your neighbor!! roy denny .

From : Annonymous

on wed 1 nov 2006 204807 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. i wont tell ya what lobster eat. use to get them right out of the trap and cookem right on the boat with a little butter man that is the way to go. roy out here the only way to get them is frozen. i think that is why i am not a big lobster guy. everyone i spoke to about my infomercial says that fresh they are really good. .

From : Annonymous

rabbit laz anybody have a hand held plow control if so do you like it any problems what do i watch for i only know one person who has one and he just does family stuff. going to be one armed for a bit and i gotta make it work. roy i got a bracket made to hold the joystick right under the radio on my 95. i lay my elbow on the console and its a perfect fit. i plowed with a friends truck for a day a couple of years ago just for the hell of it. it was a western with one of those curly phone cords with a control that fit my hand good and i could run all the buttons with a thumb. maybe id like it if i

From : roy

on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. i wont tell ya what lobster eat. use to get them right out of the trap and cookem right on the boat with a little butter man that is the way to go. roy .

From : denny

cord wrapped around the shifter or some other protrusion that gets in the way. as far as i know hes not had any problems with it and hes had it four or five years. yup getting the cord wrapped up was a concern of mine. a guy i knew had a thing about the size of a pack of cigs that was thinner and had push button controls. he velcroed it to his console. think it was a meyers. guess im going to have to see how much mobility im going to have. probably end up with the cord thing. if it was a meyers i know what youre talking about. mine came with the touch-pad controller and i hated it. i used it the first year i got it and converted to the single joy stick for the next season. i was always hitting the wrong darn button in the dark. kinda pisses ya off when ya start making a push and then have to back up and start over cause the blade didnt move the way it was supposed to. on my old truck i had a bracket bolted on the stick shift for the joystick. ive never seen it done on an automatic but it may be worth looking at. can you use your right arm to shift i dont know. as it is now before they decide to cut i cant spin the wheel hard or fast with my right. i figure to do the steering and shift with the left and plow control with the right. it is totally backwards but with a hand held ill be able to position and support my right so it will be comfortable i hope. being able to move it a bit will i think make it easier as the hours build. shift with your left that would suck. i cant think of a thing to get around that. i wont be doing driveways thats for sure. i think i can lower the wheel a bit and come over the top. we have some large lots that i can windrow and drive around for my next pass. a couple have buildings smack in the middle sooo everything goes to the parimeter ill probably be dizzy by the time i get doneg roy denny .

From : roy

on thu 02 nov 2006 013032 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. denny sorry denny but you pretty much let the cat out of the bag as to how good those burgers are. . 222 324699 z6c2h.20525$pq4.16947@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. i doubt the homeland security will let ya ship those suckers. s-l-i-d-e-r-s..... not suckers..... hey i just saw the post in the ford group about the abomidable snoman.... roflmfao whatever happened to your old buddy denny .

From : roy

rabbit laz anybody have a hand held plow control if so do you like it any problems what do i watch for i only know one person who has one and he just does family stuff. going to be one armed for a bit and i gotta make it work. roy i got a bracket made to hold the joystick right under the radio on my 95. i lay my elbow on the console and its a perfect fit. i plowed with a friends truck for a day a couple of years ago just for the hell of it. it was a western with one of those curly phone cords with a control that fit my hand good and i could run all the buttons with a thumb. maybe id like it if i used it enough to get used to it. i was always getting that damned cord wrapped around the shifter or some other protrusion that gets in the way. as far as i know hes not had any problems with it and hes had it four or five years. yup getting the cord wrapped up was a concern of mine. a guy i knew had a thing about the size of a pack of cigs that was thinner and had push button controls. he velcroed it to his console. think it was a meyers. guess im going to have to see how much mobility im going to have. probably end up with the cord thing. if it was a meyers i know what youre talking about. mine came with the touch-pad controller and i hated it. i used it the first year i got it and converted to the single joy stick for the next season. i was always hitting the wrong darn button in the dark. kinda pisses ya off when ya start making a push and then have to back up and start over cause the blade didnt move the way it was supposed to. on my old truck i had a bracket bolted on the stick shift for the joystick. ive never seen it done on an automatic but it may be worth looking at. can you use your right arm to shift i dont know. as it is now before they decide to cut i cant spin the wheel hard or fast with my right. i figure to do the steering and shift with the left and plow control with the right. it is totally backwards but with a hand held ill be able to position and support my right so it will be comfortable i hope. being able to move it a bit will i think make it easier as the hours build. shift with your left that would suck. i cant think of a thing to get around that. denny .

From : roy

on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. i doubt the homeland security will let ya ship those suckers. roy denny .

From : craig c

rabbit laz anybody have a hand held plow control if so do you like it any problems what do i watch for i only know one person who has one and he just does family stuff. going to be one armed for a bit and i gotta make it work. roy i got a bracket made to hold the joystick right under the radio on my 95. i lay my elbow on the console and its a perfect fit. i plowed with a friends truck for a day a couple of years ago just for the hell of it. it was a western with one of those curly phone cords with a control that fit my hand good and i could run all the buttons with a thumb. maybe id like it if i used it enough to get used to it. i was always getting that damned cord wrapped around the shifter or some other protrusion that gets in the way. as far as i know hes not had any problems with it and hes had it four or five years. yup g

From : Annonymous

rabbit laz anybody have a hand held plow control if so do you like it any problems what do i watch for i only know one person who has one and he just does family stuff. going to be one armed for a bit and i gotta make it work. roy i got a bracket made to hold the joystick right under the radio on my 95. i lay my elbow on the console and its a perfect fit. i plowed with a friends truck for a day a couple of years ago just for the hell of it. it was a western with one of those curly phone cords with a control that fit my hand good and i could run all the buttons with a thumb. maybe id like it if i used it enough to get used to it. i was always getting that damned cord wrapped around the shifter or some other protrusion that gets in the way. as far as i know hes not had any problems with it and hes had it four or five years. yup getting the cord wrapped up was a concern of mine. a guy i knew had a thing about the size of a pack of cigs that was thinner and had push button controls. he velcroed it to his console. think it was a meyers. guess im going to have to see how much mobility im going to have. probably end up with the cord thing. roy now it you could find a wireless or voice activated unit..... denny .

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From : roy

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From : denny

a thing about the size of a pack of cigs that was thinner and had push button controls. he velcroed it to his console. think it was a meyers. guess im going to have to see how much mobility im going to have. probably end up with the cord thing. if it was a meyers i know what youre talking about. mine came with the touch-pad controller and i hated it. i used it the first year i got it and converted to the single joy stick for the next season. i was always hitting the wrong darn button in the dark. kinda pisses ya off when ya start making a push and then have to back up and start over cause the blade didnt move the way it was supposed to. on my old truck i had a bracket bolted on the stick shift for the joystick. ive never seen it done on an automatic but it may be worth looking at. can you use your right arm to shift i dont know. as it is now before they decide to cut i cant spin the wheel hard or fast with my right. i figure to do the steering and shift with the left and plow control with the right. it is totally backwards but with a hand held ill be able to position and support my right so it will be comfortable i hope. being able to move it a bit will i think make it easier as the hours build. roy denny roy now it you could find a wireless or voice activated unit..... denny . 222 324693 i8adne5xj7cw1ttynz2dnuvzuudnz2d@comcast.com the cartoon was funny. but gotta tell ya the sig is a bit much imo but then again it is your sig. ya gotta do what feels good.g i saw it on a bumper sticker today. intense ... but applicable in certain situations. it is that. roy craig c. .

From : Annonymous

in indiana we called them gut bombs. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard lets just say they are an acquired taste.. g the size of a dinner roll with a wedge of meat cooked in onion bits and a limp pickle slice. slap on a piece of cheese and a bit on bacon and youll be guarenteed to not be constipated for at least a week. they are also known as sliders. denny -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : denny

on thu 02 nov 2006 011020 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 193429 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard lets just say they are an acquired taste.. g the size of a dinner roll with a wedge of meat cooked in onion bits and a limp pickle slice. slap on a piece of cheese and a bit on bacon and youll be guarenteed to not be constipated for at least a week. they are also known as sliders. denny wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. pal you want no part of wc! roy hmmm. see being a west coaster i always heard that wc was the top dog in burgers not sure how big a compliment that is. interesting. just ask yourself a little question......... would me and ole mike ever lead you astray denny no way. i mean if i cant trust you guys who can i trust .

From : miles

on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard lets just say they are an acquired taste.. g the size of a dinner roll with a wedge of meat cooked in onion bits and a limp pickle slice. slap on a piece of cheese and a bit on bacon and youll be guarenteed to not be constipated for at least a week. they are also known as sliders. denny wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. .

From : denny

i used to eat them as much as four times a month and from 12 to 24 at a time . . . . what does that make me superman supergas fartman stupid vbg denny .

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on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. hell send me your addy and ill fed-ex you a case of sliders.... only thing in return is ya have to post here about how good they really are.. denny .

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on thu 02 nov 2006 011020 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 193429 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard lets just say they are an acquired taste.. g the size of a dinner roll with a wedge of meat cooked in onion bits and a limp pickle slice. slap on a piece of cheese and a bit on bacon and youll be guarenteed to not be constipated for at least a week. they are also known as sliders. denny wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. pal you want no part of wc! roy hmmm. see being a west coaster i always heard that wc was the top dog in burgers not sure how big a compliment that is. interesting. just ask yourself a little question......... would me and ole mike ever lead you astray denny no way. i mean if i cant trust you guys who can i trust good question. if you was to venture over to the east coast ole roy knows where all the good restarauts are. the ole boy eats enough to keep them all in business.. g denny .

From : Annonymous

i used to eat them as much as four times a month and from 12 to 24 at a time .. . . . what does that make me superman hmm and could that explain my current flatulence -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : denny

on thu 02 nov 2006 011417 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. ya gotta try them once. youre just not a man if ya dont...... vbg denny you guys are making it sound so appetizing. now on the other hand i was watchin the food network the other night and they had this guy on that made mortenson lobster stew. they fed ex overnight it to you and the guys that tried it raved about it. im not a big lobster fan but i cant get it out of my head. im actually thinkin of ordering it! i feel like im falling for an infomercial but i think i gotta try it. .

From : denny

on wed 1 nov 2006 193429 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard lets just say they are an acquired taste.. g the size of a dinner roll with a wedge of meat cooked in onion bits and a limp pickle slice. slap on a piece of cheese and a bit on bacon and youll be guarenteed to not be constipated for at least a week. they are also known as sliders. denny wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. pal you want no part of wc! roy hmmm. see being a west coaster i always heard that wc was the top dog in burgers not sure how big a compliment that is. interesting. just ask yourself a little question......... would me and ole mike ever lead you astray denny .

From : roy

on wed 1 nov 2006 193429 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 02 nov 2006 000051 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard lets just say they are an acquired taste.. g the size of a dinner roll with a wedge of meat cooked in onion bits and a limp pickle slice. slap on a piece of cheese and a bit on bacon and youll be guarenteed to not be constipated for at least a week. they are also known as sliders. denny wow. maybe ill stick with burgerville. pal you want no part of wc! roy hmmm. see being a west coaster i always heard that wc was the top dog in burgers not sure how big a compliment that is. interesting. .

From : roy

on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard lets just say they are an acquired taste.. g the size of a dinner roll with a wedge of meat cooked in onion bits and a limp pickle slice. slap on a piece of cheese and a bit on bacon and youll be guarenteed to not be constipated for at least a week. they are also known as sliders. denny .

From : craig c

on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... now i know where we will be going for dinner. damn... the secret escaped.... ill find us a new beanery to eat at.. denny roy denny .

From : denny

tom lawrence wrote people are getting 15-16mpg with the hemi in the 1500s... if a diesel option could get them 25mpg thats $7184 for gasoline vs. $5000 for diesel over 50000 miles. so even if the engines a $2000 option it easily pays for itself. name a diesel engine that puts out the same or greater power than the hemi that gets 25mpg in a dodge 1/2 ton size and weight vehicle and costs less than $2000 more than the hemi. i agree if they could do that it would sell. nobody has even come close so far. .

From : denny

rabbit laz anybody have a hand held plow control if so do you like it any problems what do i watch for i only know one person who has one and he just does family stuff. going to be one armed for a bit and i gotta make it work. roy i got a bracket made to hold the joystick right under the radio on my 95. i lay my elbow on the console and its a perfect fit. i plowed with a friends truck for a day a couple of years ago just for the hell of it. it was a western with one of those curly phone cords with a control that fit my hand good and i could run all the buttons with a thumb. maybe id like it if i used it enough to get used to it. i was always getting that damned cord wrapped around the shifter or some other protrusion that gets in the way. as far as i know hes not had any problems with it and hes had it four or five years. now it you could find a wireless or voice activated unit..... denny .

From : roy

whats a plow ;- smartass!g this is my last year for snow plowing. last year for the truck as well i think. roy welcome to the warm wonderful south! where precipitation goes down the drain instead of piling up where it shouldnt. ;- how can you live in the south without a truck well call you yankee if you dont drive a truck! ;- my commute to the beach is about a mile. there is now way i can justify the expense of a 05 2500qc 4x4 with a cummins as a run around piece of transportation. i wont be towing or plowing snow. id just be burning equity.i bought the magnum for running around. now looking at my options i could give the magnum to the wife and maybe look again at a charger srt. under the guise of going on trips and stuff. kinda like when i run up to dennys so he can buy me that dinner.g roy .

From : craig c

i hear what you are saying but the hitch should be fine. be thankful that you had it on. otherwise your truck would have more damage. i had someone run into the back of my 79 dodge van replaced the bumper & another $500 would have fixed it up didnt fix it still drove fine the other car a 2000 maxim was totalled. the trailer hitch did a number on his car he needed a tow truck .

From : roy

some cheap plows are manual. unless u can plow in the same direction all the time...um...duh...you have to get out to adjust your plow. last year about had enough of it -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels yes i have one. i believe all plows come with hand controls now. what kind of plow do you have i love it and i wouldnt want to plow without it. the c-plow especially... itd be a real pain if i had to get out all the time. huh why would you get out i route mine down the center under the seats up around the rear of my seat and lay it on the seat on my right. its right there within easy reach. i dont think id want a hard mounted cab control. a hard mounted joystick is all ive used for the past few years. roy -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels rabbit laz anybody have a hand held plow control if so do you like it any problems what do i watch for i only know one person who has one and he just does family stuff. going to be one armed for a bit and i gotta make it work. roy .

From : Annonymous

on wed 1 nov 2006 084659 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! im sure you mean the widest ass in the group!!g just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... so im curious. there are no white castles out here in the west but we got a lot of good burger places. are white castles really as good as ive heard ....better... mike now i know where we will be going for dinner. roy denny .

From : roy

ford has announced they will offer a diesel option in the f-150 for the 2008 or 2009 model year. all i can say is its about time and what has taken so long. and what are dodge gm toyota and nissan doing about it it seems like a diesel 1/2 ton is long overdue and is a no brainer. i personally want a diesel dakota. .

From : roy

yes i have one. i believe all plows come with hand controls now. i love it and i wouldnt want to plow without it. the c-plow especially... itd be a real pain if i had to get out all the time. i route mine down the center under the seats up around the rear of my seat and lay it on the seat on my right. its right there within easy reach. i dont think id want a hard mounted cab control. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels rabbit laz anybody have a hand held plow control if so do you like it any problems what do i watch for i only know one person who has one and he just does family stuff. going to be one armed for a bit and i gotta make it work. roy .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

budd cochran wrote that sounds more like a engine balance mismatch. a 318 is internally balanced and a 360 is externally balanced. a 360 trans on a 318 or vice versa will shake like mad. in both cases the right converter fixes the problem. well i dont think its a balance problem like youre describing. to make a long story short the van was basically stolen from me at one point and for about a year and a half i believed that it had been sent to the crusher--until dad saw it driving down the road. apparently the people who told him not me that it was unfixable hardly anything is unfixable fixed it 2 weeks later and ran it with illegal tags for that year and a half delivering carpet. i dont know if they did something to it once they realized that they were about to return it. i do know that after it was returned to me it was in many ways the old worn out dodge van that i knew and loved but soon after started having a strange issue where something would make a good bit of noise when just maintaining speed but not under load or while deccelerating. someone suggested to me that they make have put something in the oil or the gas tank to cause quicker-than-normal deterioration of the engine. someone else listened and said it sounded like the main bearings. main bearings will hammer loudest under load even light cruise but will quieten some when coasting at lower speed. rods pound under load but dont quieten much. i do know that when i did get it running that last time it idled *ok* after a very lengthy warmup on a very hot alabama day. it revved smoothly without noise when in park. the heavy-duty vibration only occured when moving in gear and it was there regardless of whether or not i was accelerating or coasting down a hill. long warmups could be a plugged crossover passage thermostat stuck open or inoperative choke or any combination of the three. why be miffed the squirrel had excellent taste and chose the best highest quality storage place he could find. youve obviously got a five acorn air cleaner there friend. lol...well he mustve thought so. i thought otherwise once i saw how the flapper in the intake tube had rusted open and the linkage connected to it was mia. it just made it easier for him to get in! and they always go for the better places. better give that carb a good soaking and rebuild it or buy a rebuilt because that could be some of the vibration also. that carb was toast in 93 when i started driving the van. i think its beyond a good soaking. the choke was shot about 200k miles ago ;- i would like to rebuild it just because... but if i manage to get the van mobile enough to move a few miles ill probably do so with a temporary carb until i can find a more permanent workspace for it. jp sounds like a plan. if i can be of help just drop the spam out of my email address. good luck! budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : beekeep

im from los angeles. here i was able to get an 06 3500 q/c long bead slt offered at $31000 with a fleet dealer rebate of $5000. if you folks have aaa or costco memberships you can save in my case up $3000 from retail. this is my first diesel and i love it. owning a diesel is a little different on maintenance but the performance is well worth it. you have to consider your needs with the truck before you make any type of purchase. as for me towing my heavy fifth wheel need a serious upgrade from the gas guzzling gmc dually crewcab. so much more maintenace and less torque. ok looks like ive got a leftover ram 3500 srw quad cab short bed laramie edition lined up at the dealer for 33k. its really 23k plus my truck but 10k is a trade im ok with. so any opinions considering its now a last years model thats been on the lot for 6 months i figured getting the thing at invoice plus a good trade in on my 2000 tacoma v6 prerunner was a decent deal. i was more interested in getting a 5.9 cummins however misguided that may be. theres currently a $3500 rebate on the leftover 06s that ends tonight. im thinking they cant just do away with the rebates on the leftovers but more than likely will increase them. ive never bought a new us auto before so the ins and outs of it all are a bit new to me. thanks for any input. im due to go in tonight and make the deal. bb .

From : beekeep

on mon 30 oct 2006 190955 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . now just where did that cartoon bash christians i saw a cool sig at another group. sorta like this. when relgion ruled the world they called it the dark ages dont know or care if it is factual but found it a bit interesting. i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike mike im sure many of us here are christians and most could care less what anyones religion is. budd has become a troll and that is not a religion. the best way to kill a troll is to starve him to death. most here havent figgured that out yet. maybe its that big sign on budds back that says kick me. personally i feel sorry for him. there was a time when he had a sense of hummor and posted some usefull information here. those days are gone and he now lives in the first century. beekeep .

From : beekeep

electrician wrote ford has announced they will offer a diesel option in the f-150 for the 2008 or 2009 model year. all i can say is its about time and what has taken so long. and what are dodge gm toyota and nissan doing about it it seems like a diesel 1/2 ton is long overdue and is a no brainer. i personally want a diesel dakota. what is the purpose of a diesel 1/2 ton people have been buying the diesels because they want the power to tow or haul heavy loads. 1/2 ton trucks dont need more power for the load theyre designed to handle. saving on fuel costs isnt an issue today since in most of the country diesel is priced close to what premium gas is. miles people have bought stuff they dont need for years. a classic example is bottled water. a case can be made however for the economics of a light duty diesel. mike .

From : js

the diesel costs more initially but maintenance is less its going to last three or four times as many miles as the gas engine and of course theres the waaaaaaaaay better fuel economy. plus you have to figure the diesel dc would put in a 1500 would probably be a four cylinder or a much smaller six with correspondingly better economy. tom lawrence wrote youre making the assumption that the mpg is equal between a gas and diesel engine of comparable power. thats simply not the case. the diesel can easily outperform a comparable gas engine by 50% in fuel economy sometimes upwards of 90% as evidence a 310hp/450lb.ft. gas v10 gets about 10mpg whereas a 305hp/555lb.ft. diesel i6 gets about 18mpg in the same vehicle - those are both empty daily-commuter numbers i realize that but the payback isnt there. diesel here is $.20 higher than regular gas. the diesel engine costs $5000+ more than the gas. people buy it for the power it puts out. it hasnt been a cost saver for many years. i just do not see a use for a diesel in a 1/2 ton unless its cost over a comparable gasser is under $1000. .

From : craig c

electrician wrote ford has announced they will offer a diesel option in the f-150 for the 2008 or 2009 model year. all i can say is its about time and what has taken so long. and what are dodge gm toyota and nissan doing about it it seems like a diesel 1/2 ton is long overdue and is a no brainer. i personally want a diesel dakota. ill believe it when i see it. theres been rumors of a small diesel for years. so far the epa has managed to prevent it. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

saving on fuel costs isnt an issue today since in most of the country diesel is priced close to what premium gas is. youre making the assumption that the mpg is equal between a gas and diesel engine of comparable power. thats simply not the case. the diesel can easily outperform a comparable gas engine by 50% in fuel economy sometimes upwards of 90% as evidence a 310hp/450lb.ft. gas v10 gets about 10mpg whereas a 305hp/555lb.ft. diesel i6 gets about 18mpg in the same vehicle - those are both empty daily-commuter numbers .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

you missed the crux of my post entirely. i was not defending budd... hes a big guy and can defend himself. nor did i get caught up in his rhetoric. i merely made an observation that it seemed that some in the ng were using christian bashing as a form of sport. i merely asked that as a group we consider others beliefs and feelings before we make this a routine practice. thats all im gonna say about that.... now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... mike i knew you were not trying to defend me but asking for a return to courtesy and i thank you for that my friend. i have also asked for it and . . . . my concern is what will happen with those that believe if you are not bashing me then you must be defending me. will they attack you now i hope not. thanks again. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : denny

another one ducks the responsibility of admitting he posted what could be taken as an insult. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 31-oct-06 1156 pm and you are wrong about my reasoning but i doubt you believe that and it limits your understanding. ok since you taken this tack then the conversation is over. there was no need to be insulting towards me. if your wondering like roy and others how i could be insulted by something said in this forum its as its been said in this and other groups insults are in the ears of the hearer. what could be funny to one is an insult to another. comparing me to your dad was an insult to me. so its over not because i was being insulting but because you are. i was simply saying what i believe to be true based on what i read. i did not think it was funny not in the least but since you included helping the kid with his car in this particular thread the clear indication was what i said. im just going to agree to disagree with you. anyway everyone else have fun. im outta here this thread not this ng. jmc -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : mike simmons

electrician wrote ford has announced they will offer a diesel option in the f-150 for the 2008 or 2009 model year. all i can say is its about time and what has taken so long. and what are dodge gm toyota and nissan doing about it it seems like a diesel 1/2 ton is long overdue and is a no brainer. i personally want a diesel dakota. what is the purpose of a diesel 1/2 ton people have been buying the diesels because they want the power to tow or haul heavy loads. 1/2 ton trucks dont need more power for the load theyre designed to handle. saving on fuel costs isnt an issue today since in most of the country diesel is priced close to what premium gas is. .

From : azwiley1

ford has announced they will offer a diesel option in the f-150 for the 2008 or 2009 model year. all i can say is its about time and what has taken so long. and what are dodge gm toyota and nissan doing about it it seems like a diesel 1/2 ton is long overdue and is a no brainer. i personally want a diesel dakota. according to the new issue of diesel power there is a chance that toyota will be releasing a 3/4 ton version of the tundra with a diesel in it. though it is not in stone there is talk that they may use cat. .

From : mike simmons

on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 am i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike im still trying to figure out how bud got christian bashing out of that post. me too! but im with you in this. i think insulting ones religion belief system or lack thereof is pointless since i doubt very many people have switched religions due to some argument - or even reasoned conversation - they had on usenet. or anywhere else for that matter somebody please point out where a persons beliefs were insulted. that really is the point. but it gets lost in the constant whining from budd. you cant say anything about budd you can not even take issue with a single word that he writes that he doesnt cry religious intolerance. the only one to ever bring religion into the discussion is budd. in that perspective mike may have a point. like we have all said mikes best point in what he wrote is for budd to leave religion out of his posts. like roy and many others i have said and will say again i dont care what religion or sex or color or lifestyle anyone choses or is. i judge people on their quality nothing else. it is on that that this ng has judged budd and nothing else. i am surprised that mike who i deem to be a pretty good guy got caught up in budds rhetoric which is just a hair short of complete insanity. you missed the crux of my post entirely. i was not defending budd... hes a big guy and can defend himself. nor did i get caught up in his rhetoric. i merely made an observation that it seemed that some in the ng were using christian bashing as a form of sport. i merely asked that as a group we consider others beliefs and feelings before we make this a routine practice. thats all im gonna say about that.... now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. hmmm... dont think even a cummins could handle it.... we may want to consider nuclear.... hell ive got the warmest ass in the group!! just give me a crave case of white castles and ill warm up the whole cab.... i may have something better... last week a group of guys got together and ground up horseradish. everybody has their own little patch digs up a bunch gets together to grind it and can it. not to mention telling a few bullshit stories along the way. this stuff will bring tears to your eyes open up clogged nasel passeges and clean out your innerds if you give it an hour or so. good stuff!! denny by god!! i think you might be on to something! if we slathered horseradish on whiteys and ate em we could probably reduce our dependence on foreign natural gas overnight! ....back to the lab... mike .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

and that is what makes people different. it is called life why dont ya get one. i have a life a christian life an eternal life and a savior and forgiveness for my sins but roy the problem is you want me to give up heaven for your hell. see thats where you have it screwed up. because i dont live my life the way you think i should im in hell. in my never ending pursuit of what the heck is up with you let me ask you a question. did you ever have a drinking problem you sought help for aa or an organization like that oh i told ya you couldnt help yourself and would continue to read. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

a frame-off cant be done the frame is welded to the body. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams well its going to be quite a long project as i want to restore it to its original state. the hard part will be the body work. i want the frame to be blasted and repainted and the body needs to be stripped and repainted as well. all new weatherstripping was needed years ago. the windshield is cracked. how would one go about doing a frame-off resto on a dodge van jp stormin mormon wrote a chilton or haynes book will help you determine this. the vin may be of some help. also some vehicles have a big sticker in the glovebox which details all the equipment which was applied to this particular vehicle. as its more recent than 1974 it will have the electronic ignition. they are well noted for having a bad ground on the ign module. which may prevent it from starting. may i suggest you bring some fresh gasoline. and a couple cans of ether. also distributor cap and rotor. ballast resistor. a new battery. jumper cables. wish i lived closer im in western nys. id sure like to work on a project as this. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : mike simmons

on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 am i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike im still trying to figure out how bud got christian bashing out of that post. me too! but im with you in this. i think insulting ones religion belief system or lack thereof is pointless since i doubt very many people have switched religions due to some argument - or even reasoned conversation - they had on usenet. or anywhere else for that matter somebody please point out where a persons beliefs were insulted. that really is the point. but it gets lost in the constant whining from budd. you cant say anything about budd you can not even take issue with a single word that he writes that he doesnt cry religious intolerance. the only one to ever bring religion into the discussion is budd. in that perspective mike may have a point. like we have all said mikes best point in what he wrote is for budd to leave religion out of his posts. like roy and many others i have said and will say again i dont care what religion or sex or color or lifestyle anyone choses or is. i judge people on their quality nothing else. it is on that that this ng has judged budd and nothing else. i am surprised that mike who i deem to be a pretty good guy got caught up in budds rhetoric which is just a hair short of complete insanity. you missed the crux of my post entirely. i was not defending budd... hes a big guy and can defend himself. nor did i get caught up in his rhetoric. i merely made an observation that it seemed that some in the ng were using christian bashing as a form of sport. i merely asked that as a group we consider others beliefs and feelings before we make this a routine practice. thats all im gonna say about that.... now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... mike how about heated leather seats! jmc .

From : miles

on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 am i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike im still trying to figure out how bud got christian bashing out of that post. me too! but im with you in this. i think insulting ones religion belief system or lack thereof is pointless since i doubt very many people have switched religions due to some argument - or even reasoned conversation - they had on usenet. or anywhere else for that matter somebody please point out where a persons beliefs were insulted. that really is the point. but it gets lost in the constant whining from budd. you cant say anything about budd you can not even take issue with a single word that he writes that he doesnt cry religious intolerance. the only one to ever bring religion into the discussion is budd. in that perspective mike may have a point. like we have all said mikes best point in what he wrote is for budd to leave religion out of his posts. like roy and many others i have said and will say again i dont care what religion or sex or color or lifestyle anyone choses or is. i judge people on their quality nothing else. it is on that that this ng has judged budd and nothing else. i am surprised that mike who i deem to be a pretty good guy got caught up in budds rhetoric which is just a hair short of complete insanity. you missed the crux of my post entirely. i was not defending budd... hes a big guy and can defend himself. nor did i get caught up in his rhetoric. i merely made an observation that it seemed that some in the ng were using christian bashing as a form of sport. i merely asked that as a group we consider others beliefs and feelings before we make this a routine practice. thats all im gonna say about that.... now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... mike jmc .

From : roy

on tue 31 oct 2006 153934 gmt bb blackies@work.com wrote ok looks like ive got a leftover ram 3500 srw quad cab short bed laramie edition lined up at the dealer for 33k. its really 23k plus my truck but 10k is a trade im ok with. well too late for any second guessing i bought the truck. we took it on one final long test ride and its just as i remember a damned fine driving truck. good power low noise good visibility easy handling. although its twice the size of my tacoma i feel at ease driving it in crowed traffic situations. its almost impossible for me to dig money out of my pocket. if i could have backed out i would have. i could easily have parked two blocks away and called the dealer to pick put the truck. when it comes to spending money my gf definably wears the pants in the family. she had the courage to say just do it. so i got back and told the salesman wed take the deal. i got so worked up at the closing i thought i was having a heart attack. i left the guy a deposit check and told him id finish up the next day. he told me i could go ahead and take the truck even though i hadnt done anything about financing but i just wanted out of there. id bet the salesman and manager got a good snicker out of my panic. now that im home and the decision is basically made i feel better. ill either finish having my heart attack tonight or ill buy the truck tomorrow. damn i cant believe ill have a ram 3500 laramie cummins brand spanking new tomorrow. most ive ever spent on a car was my last 18500 for my toyota v6 prerunner. i drove it for almost seven years didnt put a dime into it for 70k miles not even tires and got a respectable 10k + trade in. i can only hope i get as much for my money for the dodge. over the next few years were hoping to do some serious fifth wheel towing around the country and canada. im looking forward to having the cummins 5.9 as my partner. thanks to all on this group and other internet sites for all the information and feedback to make me comfortable enough to buy my first new america car. bb .

From : jmc

budd cochran wrote and you deny the hateful comments youve made regarding my beliefs do you deny the hateful unwanted comments youve made to almost everyone here do you deny judging people for their beliefs that differ from your own .

From : roy

suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 31-oct-06 1156 pm and you are wrong about my reasoning but i doubt you believe that and it limits your understanding. ok since you taken this tack then the conversation is over. there was no need to be insulting towards me. if your wondering like roy and others how i could be insulted by something said in this forum its as its been said in this and other groups insults are in the ears of the hearer. what could be funny to one is an insult to another. comparing me to your dad was an insult to me. so its over not because i was being insulting but because you are. i was simply saying what i believe to be true based on what i read. i did not think it was funny not in the least but since you included helping the kid with his car in this particular thread the clear indication was what i said. im just going to agree to disagree with you. anyway everyone else have fun. im outta here this thread not this ng. jmc .

From : roy

ok looks like ive got a leftover ram 3500 srw quad cab short bed laramie edition lined up at the dealer for 33k. its really 23k plus my truck but 10k is a trade im ok with. dont sound bad for a laramie so any opinions considering its now a last years model thats been on the lot for 6 months i figured getting the thing at invoice plus a good trade in on my 2000 tacoma v6 prerunner was a decent deal. i was more interested in getting a 5.9 cummins however misguided that may be. you cant go wrong with the 5.9 cummins. theres currently a $3500 rebate on the leftover 06s that ends tonight. im thinking they cant just do away with the rebates on the leftovers but more than likely will increase them. ive never bought a new us auto before so the ins and outs of it all are a bit new to me. thanks for any input. im due to go in tonight and make the deal. bb .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

turned 30k miles on my hemi ram 1500 4x4 this month. the factory tires are shot. 245/70 x17... michelin i think. junk.. im thinking a bit of a upsize would be nice plus id like to put something on there that might do a little better than 30k miles. plus i need a bit more nads in the side wall thinking about a set of 265/70 bridgestone dueler a/t revos in the 10 ply load rated version. a bit pricey for a street tire at $180 a piece but i used these on my jeep and ended up get damn near 60k out of them. plus i pull a 5000lbs boat out of the water every weekend and those damn michelins ripple on the side wall like a fuelie slick when the light changes at the drag strip. they curl up almost to the rim... im thinking the 10ply might do a little better. also thinking that an odometer recal might be required going from 245 to 265 with the same 70% aspect ratio or if i end up going bigger comments on a computer setup tweaker a little performance might be fun as well comments .

From : jmc

on sun 29 oct 2006 030405 +0000 utc ignoramus21257 ignoramus21257@nospam.21257.invalid wrote since i got rid of the truck getting rid of the manual cdrom seems the only logical choice. it is free to the first person to mail their address to ichudov at algebra dot com. there is no catch and you do not need to pay postage or send a sase. i youll come back to a dodge one day. beekeep .

From : Annonymous

a chilton or haynes book will help you determine this. the vin may be of some help. also some vehicles have a big sticker in the glovebox which details all the equipment which was applied to this particular vehicle. as its more recent than 1974 it will have the electronic ignition. they are well noted for having a bad ground on the ign module. which may prevent it from starting. may i suggest you bring some fresh gasoline. and a couple cans of ether. also distributor cap and rotor. ballast resistor. a new battery. jumper cables. wish i lived closer im in western nys. id sure like to work on a project as this. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. hi all... first post here. i see quite a few familiar names from the chevy groups. ive owned a 1984 b250 dodge van for years now and its been off the road for the last few. although its *highly* unfeasible to do so ive decided to start the process of getting it back on the road as it holds much sentimental value and i just enjoyed driving it a lot. before any real work can happen i need to find out a few things and my first question refers to which tranny it has. ive heard there are long and short versions of the 727 but i dont know which i have. the van is a standard-length van. by standard i mean its not a shorty and its not one of those with the extra long rear end hanging off the back...just your average sized utility van. id also like to know which rear axle it has. its been a good one. after a few engine and tranny swaps from back when my dad drove and didnt properly maintain it that rear axle has roughly 485000 miles on it. im not kidding. im looking forward to digging it out of the weeds at my ex-wifes place and getting it running well enough to drive out of there under its own power. i need to get to where i could meet a car-hauling buddy of mine for the long trip back to atlanta as its currently way out in the back woods of alabama. thanks all jp .

From : roy

on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 am i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike im still trying to figure out how bud got christian bashing out of that post. me too! but im with you in this. i think insulting ones religion belief system or lack thereof is pointless since i doubt very many people have switched religions due to some argument - or even reasoned conversation - they had on usenet. or anywhere else for that matter somebody please point out where a persons beliefs were insulted. that really is the point. but it gets lost in the constant whining from budd. you cant say anything about budd you can not even take issue with a single word that he writes that he doesnt cry religious intolerance. the only one to ever bring religion into the discussion is budd. in that perspective mike may have a point. like we have all said mikes best point in what he wrote is for budd to leave religion out of his posts. like roy and many others i have said and will say again i dont care what religion or sex or color or lifestyle anyone choses or is. i judge people on their quality nothing else. it is on that that this ng has judged budd and nothing else. i am surprised that mike who i deem to be a pretty good guy got caught up in budds rhetoric which is just a hair short of complete insanity. jmc .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on tue 31 oct 2006 001616 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 200816 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 194216 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote here ya go my wide ride buddy. monday night are ya ready for some football!!! pats at minn. get on the wagon for petes sake!! desert your call! roy roy you may step on it on this one. minn is playing very good football right now. the pats................well they are playing football anyway. hell i usually jump in it. they seem to be a pretty good match up although the pats have a better record. brady seems to do what he does each year. he gets better every game as does the whole team. should be a good game imo. r i admit brady is a great athlete. i just dont think that this has been his best year. well see shortly. yup we saw. you are correct the pats are playing football at a heck of a level ok i stand humbled by their greatness at least last night. .

From : roy

life. but all in all not a pretty picture. but in the past. its sad when a group either has to give up its children or has them ripped away because of the society. its worse that the dominant group will be able to object to it happening to themselves but encourage it among the subordinate groups. im currently helping her youngest son get a ramcharger 4x4 running again by teaching him things about auto mechanics no longer taught in school. he was sold an engine that had been converted point type ignition and he knew nothing about how they worked. the vehicle had been his dads before he died from cancer. its an honor to be asked help someones son become a man. id think it should be an honor no matter what race the kid is. i simply said it was an honor i did not say it was so because of his etnicity. dont add to what i say and you will understand it better. this sounds like my fathers sort of im not a racist! look heres my black friend roy. thats how he always mentioned the guy his black friend roy. not just my friend roy as any color-blind person would. jmc and you are wrong about my reasoning but i doubt you believe that and it limits your understanding. ok since you taken this tack then the conversation is over. there was no need to be insulting towards me. if your wondering like roy and others how i could be insulted by something said in this forum doubtful people are wondering. it is easy when you feel like going on a rant or when sombody disagrees with you you scream insult or bigot in a failed attempt to lend credence to your position or to excuse your actions. you have done it many times. nobody wonders anymore. its as its been said in this and other groups insults are in the ears of the hearer. what could be funny to one is an insult to another. and that is what makes people different. it is called life why dont ya get one. . 222 324574 45475016$0$12090$88260bb3@free.tera.com suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 30-oct-06 1149 pm suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 29-oct-06 1043 pm opinion i cant help with the truck but for explanation of the aboriginal situation their status is akin to that of the native american amerind in that theyve been mistreated over-run subjugated to the point of losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland the white man. they certainly were treated poorly in the past but most of their problems today are self-inflicted or a problem of individuals. show me a *current* law in either country that subjugates either peoples. show a law that subjugates how about the fact the us government still advocates by law the continuance of the reservations the financial subsidy of the amerinds and the lack of educational facilities both scholastic and technical readily available to them as compared to whites. give them a fish and they eat today teach to fish and they eat everday to paraphrase the chinese proverb. living in the southwest us i meet many native americans and have met over the years a few aboriginals that escaped the oppression. in both peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their neighbors as equals. well duh. of course. nothing stopping them really if theyre willing to work at it. plenty of aboriginals are still here either on a station leading a traditional or pastoral ranching life or living in town integrated into the modern world. if they are willing to work at it . . . why does the subjugated always have to work at getting along with the opressors interestingly the liberals of both nations and britain tend to overlook the rights of the native peoples. actually its a good bit more complicated than that. the law supports aboriginals - over-supports them often due to legal aid - but certainly the history of what white australians did to the aboriginal is worse than what happened in the us. no its just the the superior species of man throwing its weight around. i dont even know what you mean by that. whites throwing their weight around by making sure aboriginals that commit crimes get off are throwing their weight around to you this should be a good thing you seem to support reverse discrimination. no i support true equality everyone living together in harmony respecting one another for who they are what they believe and how they live. imho reverse discrimination is setting quotas for hiring the unqualified over the qualified regardless of ethnic divisions i believe in one blood one human race. no one should not be punished for a crime in any society because of ethnicity. but many of individuals woes they brought on themselves - plenty of aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. but as with the american indian too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off the govt rather than

From : roy

on mon 30 oct 2006 200816 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 194216 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote here ya go my wide ride buddy. monday night are ya ready for some football!!! pats at minn. get on the wagon for petes sake!! desert your call! roy roy you may step on it on this one. minn is playing very good football right now. the pats................well they are playing football anyway. hell i usually jump in it. they seem to be a pretty good match up although the pats have a better record. brady seems to do what he does each year. he gets better every game as does the whole team. should be a good game imo. r i admit brady is a great athlete. i just dont think that this has been his best year. well see shortly. yup we saw. you are correct the pats are playing football at a heck of a level i guess i missed out on another one. i just saw on espn the pats lucked out again. lucked out i cant wait for the weather to get bad so i can sit on my skinny little ass and watch tv... g sunday you get another chance. roy denny .

From : jmc

. 222 324571 nawdnv-vsdnl1drynz2dnuvzt-dnz2d@comcast.com and you deny the hateful comments youve made regarding my beliefs budd you dont get it do ya i could care less what you believe in what color you are if you are gay how much money you have what you eat for supper. it does not change the fact that i think you are a friggin idiot!! i think you are a pia about your beliefs i disagree with the way you present them. so if thats bashing so be it. i really dont care and thats what you cant grasp i dont give a damn how you or anybody else people feels about it. mike is right but you and those like you that choose to bash me for my beliefs and consequently bash my beliefs in the process are too thick headed too bigoted and too intolerant to ever realize what youre doing. no because a person disagrees and says so is not c-bashing. no we dont know your religious beliefs but as jesus said by their fruits that is what you demonstrate to the public with your actions words and lifestyle you will know them. im real comfortable with that. and all that you say ive called you is according to that scripture only what the fruit you t-bone theguy craig and others bear in this forum and that is showing what you think of me as a christian that lives as he believes he should. no what is thought of you as a person and as a person your actions. it sure is some rotten fruit youre bearing roy and the trees that bear it will be cut down according to the bible at the end of the harvest. we all have to go sometime and when i go ill go knowing ive led a real full and pretty much happy life on my own terms. and thats not my word that what the word of god says about it. take your argument up with him cause im not going to see your posts anymore. yes you will. because you cant help yourself. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . now just where did that cartoon bash christians i saw a cool sig at another group. sorta like this. when relgion ruled the world they called it the dark ages dont know or care if it is factual but found it a bit interesting. i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. seeing as you appear to direct this to me ill try to give you my take on it. then perhaps you should speak to budd. he accuses everybody of christian bashing constantly. i dont see it. i see budd being slapped for some of his bs he turns it to christian bashing i really dont see it as christian bashing. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. christian bashing is anything anybody says to budd. he has been accusing me of christian bashing i think because i found the cartoon mildly funny. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. you have absolutley no idea what faith i am. budd is a friggin idiot because he claims to be a christian matters not to me he is still a friggin idiot. hell mike hes been baiting all his posts a person is a bigot or a liberal or a hypocrite or whatever. he baits for a reason he wants attention sometimes he gets it. some of the time i find his foolishness a bit funny. if you want to label that as c-bashing have at it. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. google and take a look at our childs posts on other groups. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. you recomendation is noted. roy mike -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : jmc

on mon 30 oct 2006 200816 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 194216 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote here ya go my wide ride buddy. monday night are ya ready for some football!!! pats at minn. get on the wagon for petes sake!! desert your call! roy roy you may step on it on this one. minn is playing very good football right now. the pats................well they are playing football anyway. hell i usually jump in it. they seem to be a pretty good match up although the pats have a better record. brady seems to do what he does each year. he gets better every game as does the whole team. should be a good game imo. r i admit brady is a great athlete. i just dont think that this has been his best year. well see shortly. yup we saw. you are correct the pats are playing football at a heck of a level i guess i missed out on another one. i just saw on espn the pats lucked out again. i cant wait for the weather to get bad so i can sit on my skinny little ass and watch tv... g denny .

From : jmc

suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 am i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike im still trying to figure out how bud got christian bashing out of that post. but im with you in this. i think insulting ones religion belief system or lack thereof is pointless since i doubt very many people have switched religions due to some argument - or even reasoned conversation - they had on usenet. or anywhere else for that matter jmc .

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suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 30-oct-06 1149 pm suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 29-oct-06 1043 pm opinion i cant help with the truck but for explanation of the aboriginal situation their status is akin to that of the native american amerind in that theyve been mistreated over-run subjugated to the point of losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland the white man. they certainly were treated poorly in the past but most of their problems today are self-inflicted or a problem of individuals. show me a *current* law in either country that subjugates either peoples. living in the southwest us i meet many native americans and have met over the years a few aboriginals that escaped the oppression. in both peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their neighbors as equals. well duh. of course. nothing stopping them really if theyre willing to work at it. plenty of aboriginals are still here either on a station leading a traditional or pastoral ranching life or living in town integrated into the modern world. interestingly the liberals of both nations and britain tend to overlook the rights of the native peoples. actually its a good bit more complicated than that. the law supports aboriginals - over-supports them often due to legal aid - but certainly the history of what white australians did to the aboriginal is worse than what happened in the us. no its just the the superior species of man throwing its weight around. i dont even know what you mean by that. whites throwing their weight around by making sure aboriginals that commit crimes get off are throwing their weight around to you this should be a good thing you seem to support reverse discrimination. but many of individuals woes they brought on themselves - plenty of aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. but as with the american indian too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off the govt rather than take the harder road of overcoming history and becoming something more. when you destroy a groups collective soul dont be surprised if it hides in a bottle. tell a man hes worthless enough times and hell become worthless. the same is true of the amerinds and the abos as groups. thats the biggest damn copout ive ever heard. i do not consider this a valid excuse. i myself grew up verbally and emotionally abused - being told by my father that i was worthless and believed it for a time. never did i fall into a bottle. i just slowly picked up the shattered pieces of my self esteemed and proved the bugger wrong! plenty of aboriginals and american indians have done the same and continue to do so. to say theyre justified in falling into a bottle is really doing them a disservice. abo by the way is a pejorative much like the n word for african-americans. oppression here is more on an individual rather than a govt basis. many aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics violent thieves beggars or all four living in town and causing problems. due to their culture which scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those individuals problems are much more on display than any other culture. one has to work very hard to stay open-minded and many white australians in this town dont seem to be up to that challenge. jmc a few years ago i had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a nearby dine navajo tribe and a moab resident. i asked the one question that had never been asked of her people if the whites had gone to the tribal council and asked to live in peace share the land and agree to work out differences without war what would have happened she looked me in the eye and said that most likely if this had been done with all the indian nations then we would still be living side by side and in peace. doubt that really though shes entitled to that opinion. since thats then and this is now the point is moot theres no way to know for sure since we cant go into the past and experiment with events. human nature really theyd argue about who gets what bit of land each side of course wanting the best bits and in the end i imagine wed still be were we are today. not all the atrocities between whites and indians were committed by the whites or even directly caused by some action by whites. interestingly enough this part of history has gone very differently for the aboriginal. they own great swaths of land across the continent and are gaining control of many more due to the land rights act - like the city of perth in western australia http//www.wtop.com/index.phpnid=391&sid=920286 as an example. they now own and control uluru - kata tjuta national park ayres rock the olgas which is the biggest tourist spot in central australia. understandably it does factor rather largely in their dre

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and you deny the hateful comments youve made regarding my beliefs mike is right but you and those like you that choose to bash me for my beliefs and consequently bash my beliefs in the process are too thick headed too bigoted and too intolerant to ever realize what youre doing. no we dont know your religious beliefs but as jesus said by their fruits that is what you demonstrate to the public with your actions words and lifestyle you will know them. and all that you say ive called you is according to that scripture only what the fruit you t-bone theguy craig and others bear in this forum and that is showing what you think of me as a christian that lives as he believes he should. it sure is some rotten fruit youre bearing roy and the trees that bear it will be cut down according to the bible at the end of the harvest. and thats not my word that what the word of god says about it. take your argument up with him cause im not going to see your posts anymore. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . now just where did that cartoon bash christians i saw a cool sig at another group. sorta like this. when relgion ruled the world they called it the dark ages dont know or care if it is factual but found it a bit interesting. i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. seeing as you appear to direct this to me ill try to give you my take on it. then perhaps you should speak to budd. he accuses everybody of christian bashing constantly. i dont see it. i see budd being slapped for some of his bs he turns it to christian bashing i really dont see it as christian bashing. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. christian bashing is anything anybody says to budd. he has been accusing me of christian bashing i think because i found the cartoon mildly funny. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. you have absolutley no idea what faith i am. budd is a friggin idiot because he claims to be a christian matters not to me he is still a friggin idiot. hell mike hes been baiting all his posts a person is a bigot or a liberal or a hypocrite or whatever. he baits for a reason he wants attention sometimes he gets it. some of the time i find his foolishness a bit funny. if you want to label that as c-bashing have at it. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. google and take a look at our childs posts on other groups. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. you recomendation is noted. roy mike -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : craig c

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From : craig c

on oct 30 627 pm budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ah now that is truly an expert way of showing your bigotry. jesus told me to do it. the stupid part is you think you are just so darn smart. i am smart. both academically and street-wise. i could post my accomplishments for you ... but then id be accused of racism polymorphism or some other ism/otry that you dream up. and to think you think im deluded . . . . i dont just think it. you leave absolutely nothing to the imagination budd. craig c. .

From : Annonymous

well said mike my problem with the whole religious bickering and the reason i care not to read these threads that turn into this is it does no one any good. lets remember the tolerance that christ teaches of each other. here food for thought also. titus 39 but avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law because these are unprofitable and useless. warn a divisive person once and then warn him a second time. after that have nothing to do with him. 2 timothy 214 keep reminding them of these things. warn them before god against quarreling about words; it is of no value and only ruins those who listen. 2 timothy 223 dont have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments because you know they produce quarrels. and the lords servant must not quarrel; instead he must be kind to everyone able to teach not resentful. now im done. may the lord be with you in your walk. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. im not defending budd or anyone else for that matter. we each define our faith as how it pertains to our lives and how it affects how we conduct our affairs with others. what i have noticed lately and not only in this ng is that somehow we christians are fair game to those who believe that religion is a foolish pursuit. a good example is craigs sig line... something about facts vs. religion... budds faith is his alone my faith is mine alone your faith or lack of as the case may be is your own... we should not ostracize others for their strongly held beliefs. i guess one approach is to remain silent rather than goad each other with needless provocations. if you remember the movie bambi you probably remember the rabbit thumper. in the movie thumper related what his mother once told him... if you cant say nuthin good then dont say nuthin at all..... we would all do well to heed thumpers advice. mike .

From : roy

on oct 30 709 pm mike simmons mike...@yhti.net wrote i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. not at all mike. were reacting. we have tried to be civil asking budd to calm down all the way up to shut the fuck up. now it is just plain funny to watch him go in circles. i for one wish we talked about trucks more. in fact id be happy to the point of a little pink thing popping out if we didnt discuss religion or politics ... ever again. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. happy for you and wish you the very best. and i will continue to do so .... until you try to cram it down my throat. then im going to give you dose of your own medicine ... just like budd is getting. its not a threat its a reaction. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith might i suggest that you take a moment and search the archives youll find numerous un-christian accusations by budd. he cant act like a nazi and expect people to just take it. i at one point had put him in my killfile. which doesnt work so well. granted i dont get his posts but i get all the posts that people are responding to. just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. precisely. your view is appreciated. really. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. sounds good mike. we have all tried to put up with budd and now he is getting what he deserves. when he stops ... everyone else will too. craig c. .

From : mike simmons

ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . now just where did that cartoon bash christians i saw a cool sig at another group. sorta like this. when relgion ruled the world they called it the dark ages dont know or care if it is factual but found it a bit interesting. i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. seeing as you appear to direct this to me ill try to give you my take on it. then perhaps you should speak to budd. he accuses everybody of christian bashing constantly. i dont see it. i see budd being slapped for some of his bs he turns it to christian bashing i really dont see it as christian bashing. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. christian bashing is anything anybody says to budd. he has been accusing me of christian bashing i think because i found the cartoon mildly funny. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. you have absolutley no idea what faith i am. budd is a friggin idiot because he claims to be a christian matters not to me he is still a friggin idiot. hell mike hes been baiting all his posts a person is a bigot or a liberal or a hypocrite or whatever. he baits for a reason he wants attention sometimes he gets it. some of the time i find his foolishness a bit funny. if you want to label that as c-bashing have at it. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. google and take a look at our childs posts on other groups. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. you recomendation is noted. roy mike .

From : miles

on mon 30 oct 2006 200816 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 194216 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote here ya go my wide ride buddy. monday night are ya ready for some football!!! pats at minn. get on the wagon for petes sake!! desert your call! roy roy you may step on it on this one. minn is playing very good football right now. the pats................well they are playing football anyway. hell i usually jump in it. they seem to be a pretty good match up although the pats have a better record. brady seems to do what he does each year. he gets better every game as does the whole team. should be a good game imo. r i admit brady is a great athlete. i just dont think that this has been his best year. well see shortly..

From : Annonymous

on mon 30 oct 2006 190955 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . now just where did that cartoon bash christians i saw a cool sig at another group. sorta like this. when relgion ruled the world they called it the dark ages dont know or care if it is factual but found it a bit interesting. i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike mike with all due respect to a very nice guy i think that you have it completely backwards. what is going on is just the opposite. the only reason that it even comes in is because budd has lost his friggin mind and talks about his christianity as if it were some kind of a fuckin medal. budd doesnt talk christianity or for that matter religion. not at all. if what he says passes to you as religion or as christianity then i would simply suggest you read the shit he has said lately one more time and evaluate it against your sense of christianity. you can not use the image of god or christianity as a weapon. budd is nuts. lunacy is not religion. im not defending budd or anyone else for that matter. we each define our faith as how it pertains to our lives and how it affects how we conduct our affairs with others. what i have noticed lately and not only in this ng is that somehow we christians are fair game to those who believe that religion is a foolish pursuit. a good example is craigs sig line... something about facts vs. religion... budds faith is his alone my faith is mine alone your faith or lack of as the case may be is your own... we should not ostracize others for their strongly held beliefs. i guess one approach is to remain silent rather than goad each other with needless provocations. if you remember the movie bambi you probably remember the rabbit thumper. in the movie thumper related what his mother once told him... if you cant say nuthin good then dont say nuthin at all..... we would all do well to heed thumpers advice. mike .

From : mike simmons

on mon 30 oct 2006 190955 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . now just where did that cartoon bash christians i saw a cool sig at another group. sorta like this. when relgion ruled the world they called it the dark ages dont know or care if it is factual but found it a bit interesting. i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike mike with all due respect to a very nice guy i think that you have it completely backwards. what is going on is just the opposite. the only reason that it even comes in is because budd has lost his friggin mind and talks about his christianity as if it were some kind of a fuckin medal. budd doesnt talk christianity or for that matter religion. not at all. if what he says passes to you as religion or as christianity then i would simply suggest you read the shit he has said lately one more time and evaluate it against your sense of christianity. you can not use the image of god or christianity as a weapon. budd is nuts. lunacy is not religion. .

From : roy

on mon 30 oct 2006 194216 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote here ya go my wide ride buddy. monday night are ya ready for some football!!! pats at minn. get on the wagon for petes sake!! desert your call! roy roy you may step on it on this one. minn is playing very good football right now. the pats................well they are playing football anyway. .

From : roy

here ya go my wide ride buddy. monday night are ya ready for some football!!! pats at minn. get on the wagon for petes sake!! desert your call! roy .

From : Annonymous

ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . now just where did that cartoon bash christians i saw a cool sig at another group. sorta like this. when relgion ruled the world they called it the dark ages dont know or care if it is factual but found it a bit interesting. .

From : Annonymous

budd cochran wrote ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . roy ... per your request http//homepage.mac.com/mcraigchr/budd2.htm nicely doneg roflmfao roy craig c. -- facts fakts -noun the pesky things that get in the way of religious doctrine. .

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budd cochran wrote you and craig are just fabulous to be willing to show your bigotry and hatred. just because someone thinks youre an asshole does not make them a bigot. moron. very good point!! see i knew this would provide a few chuckles. bfg craig c. -- facts fakts -noun the pesky things that get in the way of religious doctrine. .

From : Annonymous

ah now that is truly an expert way of showing your bigotry. the stupid part is you think you are just so darn smart. and to think you think im deluded . . . . -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote ah you support christian bashing no surprise. . . . . roy ... per your request http//homepage.mac.com/mcraigchr/budd2.htm craig c. -- facts fakts -noun the pesky things that get in the way of religious doctrine. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

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on mon 30 oct 2006 172455 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote the question is not if you should killfile me but i should killfile you again. bye. ok as if i give a shit. but i gotta say not very christian of you budd. budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on mon 30 oct 2006 132220 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote keeping the mad down whatever the heck that means is easy when you stuff the ones that start the arguments in a kill file dont you agree open one menu click one box and no more argument . . . . . you are right. it was meant to be man not mad which i think you knew but sorry for the mistake. while were talking again why is it so important to you that i killfile you you seem to beg me to do that an awful lot. does it just play well in your martyr syndrome or is it a face saving way of not having to argue with me any more either way i have no intent of putting you in a killfile. i mean........why would i do that -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on mon 30 oct 2006 103912 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 071958 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 29-oct-06 1043 pm opinion i cant help with the truck but for explanation of the aboriginal situation their status is akin to that of the native american amerind in that theyve been mistreated over-run subjugated to the point of losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland the white man. living in the southwest us i meet many native americans and have met over the years a few aboriginals that escaped the oppression. in both peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their neighbors as equals. interestingly the liberals of both nations and britain tend to overlook the rights of the native peoples. actually its a good bit more complicated than that. the law supports aboriginals - over-supports them often due to legal aid - but certainly the history of what white australians did to the aboriginal is worse than what happened in the us. no its just the the superior species of man throwing its weight around. but many of individuals woes they brought on themselves - plenty of aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. but as with the american indian too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off the govt rather than take the harder road of overcoming history and becoming something more. when you destroy a groups collective soul dont be surprised if it hides in a bottle. tell a man hes worthless enough times and hell become worthless. the same is true of the amerinds and the abos as groups. oppression here is more on an individual rather than a govt basis. many aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics violent thieves beggars or all four living in town and causing problems. due to their culture which scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those individuals problems are much more on display than any other culture. one has to work very hard to stay open-minded and many white australians in this town dont seem to be up to that challenge. jmc a few years ago i had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a nearby dine navajo tribe and a moab resident. i asked the one question that had never been asked of her people if the whites had gone to the tribal council and asked to live in peace share the land and agree to work out differences without war what would have happened oh yes that question has never been asked before budd. the fact that it is discussed in so many history books aside good job man. she looked me in the eye and said that most likely if this had been done with all the indian nations then we would still be living side by side and in peace. well thast it then. i mean if she and you said it it must be. crud we really messed up this one. she and i discussed the drinking problem and we agreed it was because the american indian is in many ways still a second class citizen still under government subjugation. and they need to be taught to live without subsidy taught they are of worth and the reservations need to be disbanded. just another example of keeping the man down baby. this lady was one of the thousands of native american kids in the 50s that had been torn from their parents arms and fostered among the whites an attempt to force white ways upon the indians. since she has learned her peoples traditions laws

From : jmc

suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 29-oct-06 1022 pm what sort of quality level is expected for some relatively minor body work thanks for any help. jmc if the problems werent there prior to the repair then the bs should fix em. the roughness is probably some overspray and can be cleaned off quickly with paint cleaning clay. it is always to good idea to clay the whole vehicle before waxing for a superior shine. mike thanks. just got back - the light turns out to be a hack job by the english shop and is now repaired. the roughness - he insisted it cant be overspray cause that part was covered in plastic. ive got some clay around here somewheres will see if that smooths things out. the dull bit he said it was polish but gave no suggestions on how to get rid of it. clay again i do love clay for keeping a great smooth shine but its a lot of work on a truck so i use the clay in spots as needed and have only done the entire truck once. when im washing claying waxing the truck i sometimes miss mello yello my first car - a little glow-in-the-dark-yellow 1976 chevette didnt take so long to wash and wax jmc .

From : Annonymous

the question is not if you should killfile me but i should killfile you again. bye. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on mon 30 oct 2006 132220 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote keeping the mad down whatever the heck that means is easy when you stuff the ones that start the arguments in a kill file dont you agree open one menu click one box and no more argument . . . . . you are right. it was meant to be man not mad which i think you knew but sorry for the mistake. while were talking again why is it so important to you that i killfile you you seem to beg me to do that an awful lot. does it just play well in your martyr syndrome or is it a face saving way of not having to argue with me any more either way i have no intent of putting you in a killfile. i mean........why would i do that -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on mon 30 oct 2006 103912 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 071958 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 29-oct-06 1043 pm opinion i cant help with the truck but for explanation of the aboriginal situation their status is akin to that of the native american amerind in that theyve been mistreated over-run subjugated to the point of losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland the white man. living in the southwest us i meet many native americans and have met over the years a few aboriginals that escaped the oppression. in both peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their neighbors as equals. interestingly the liberals of both nations and britain tend to overlook the rights of the native peoples. actually its a good bit more complicated than that. the law supports aboriginals - over-supports them often due to legal aid - but certainly the history of what white australians did to the aboriginal is worse than what happened in the us. no its just the the superior species of man throwing its weight around. but many of individuals woes they brought on themselves - plenty of aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. but as with the american indian too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off the govt rather than take the harder road of overcoming history and becoming something more. when you destroy a groups collective soul dont be surprised if it hides in a bottle. tell a man hes worthless enough times and hell become worthless. the same is true of the amerinds and the abos as groups. oppression here is more on an individual rather than a govt basis. many aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics violent thieves beggars or all four living in town and causing problems. due to their culture which scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those individuals problems are much more on display than any other culture. one has to work very hard to stay open-minded and many white australians in this town dont seem to be up to that challenge. jmc a few years ago i had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a nearby dine navajo tribe and a moab resident. i asked the one question that had never been asked of her people if the whites had gone to the tribal council and asked to live in peace share the land and agree to work out differences without war what would have happened oh yes that question has never been asked before budd. the fact that it is discussed in so many history books aside good job man. she looked me in the eye and said that most likely if this had been done with all the indian nations then we would still be living side by side and in peace. well thast it then. i mean if she and you said it it must be. crud we really messed up this one. she and i discussed the drinking problem and we agreed it was because the american indian is in many ways still a second class citizen still under government subjugation. and they need to be taught to live without subsidy taught they are of worth and the reservations need to be disbanded. just another example of keeping the man down baby. this lady was one of the thousands of native american kids in the 50s that had been torn from their parents arms and fostered among the whites an attempt to force white ways upon the indians. since she has learned her peoples traditions laws and helped restore their original language and often works as the dine / white liaison in the local hospital. do you remember what was the leading caus

From : craig c

ive got alltel dsl and its great. better than the cable service i had in nashville. id seriously try to find out for sure if you can get dsl -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. i agree. im with bellsouth dsl and i absolutely love it. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels bigironram wrote i just got migrated to road runner from comcast.net. i had to do the usual reboot of modems and routers and immediately lost 90%+ of my internet speed and access to giga comcasts outsourced nntp server. not happy called road runner busy signal sent message no response okay automated response just came in yet. ive checked dslreports.com and found lots of unhappy campers there. very poor service reported over there. i think i need an alternative dsl is probably out im about 24000 feet from the co. im thinking of going with dish network and wonder if anybody has any comments on that its high the platinum service is $80.00 for 1.5 mbs pretty slow compared to what im used to. i may bail out altogether. this is pretty frustrating. i just saw this in dfw.internet.providers. i feel for ya. all i can say is that im really happy with my dsl service. i know my addy says verizon but im actually with sbc. its about the only thing sbc does right. check again for dsl and switch to it if you can. good luck. bob .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

budd cochran wrote you and craig are just fabulous to be willing to show your bigotry and hatred. just because someone thinks youre an asshole does not make them a bigot. moron. craig c. -- facts fakts -noun the pesky things that get in the way of religious doctrine. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

after the 60s i dont think they made many short output shaft transmissions as the wheelbase standardized at more than 100 inches. that sounds more like a engine balance mismatch. a 318 is internally balanced and a 360 is externally balanced. a 360 trans on a 318 or vice versa will shake like mad. in both cases the right converter fixes the problem. why be miffed the squirrel had excellent taste and chose the best highest quality storage place he could find. youve obviously got a five acorn air cleaner there friend. better give that carb a good soaking and rebuild it or buy a rebuilt because that could be some of the vibration also. glad to help. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams well i know its a 727 just wasnt sure on the length... the last time i started it was to see if it was up to the trip from alabama to atlanta. it clearly was not. the tranny made funny sounds and i only got up to about 10mph before there was heavy vibration coming from somewhere within the drivetrain. i removed the air cleaner before starting it only to discover that a squirrel had decided to use it for acorn storage...i was kind of miffed about that. also the carbs never been rebuilt... it ran shall we say...a little rough. thanks jp budd cochran wrote being the b250 it was probably a 727 trans originally but if there have been engine and trans swaps it could be a 904 also. given that possibility id say its most likely a long output shaft trans or the driveshaft would have been swapped as well. the rear axle is most likely the 9.25 / 9 1/4 corporate and contrary to some a good axle. i know of one that has yours matched or beat on the number of miles. if the engine turns easily by hand with a socket and breaker bar it should start with fresh battery oil and gas. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

keeping the mad down whatever the heck that means is easy when you stuff the ones that start the arguments in a kill file dont you agree open one menu click one box and no more argument . . . . . -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on mon 30 oct 2006 103912 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 071958 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 29-oct-06 1043 pm opinion i cant help with the truck but for explanation of the aboriginal situation their status is akin to that of the native american amerind in that theyve been mistreated over-run subjugated to the point of losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland the white man. living in the southwest us i meet many native americans and have met over the years a few aboriginals that escaped the oppression. in both peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their neighbors as equals. interestingly the liberals of both nations and britain tend to overlook the rights of the native peoples. actually its a good bit more complicated than that. the law supports aboriginals - over-supports them often due to legal aid - but certainly the history of what white australians did to the aboriginal is worse than what happened in the us. no its just the the superior species of man throwing its weight around. but many of individuals woes they brought on themselves - plenty of aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. but as with the american indian too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off the govt rather than take the harder road of overcoming history and becoming something more. when you destroy a groups collective soul dont be surprised if it hides in a bottle. tell a man hes worthless enough times and hell become worthless. the same is true of the amerinds and the abos as groups. oppression here is more on an individual rather than a govt basis. many aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics violent thieves beggars or all four living in town and causing problems. due to their culture which scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those individuals problems are much more on display than any other culture. one has to work very hard to stay open-minded and many white australians in this town dont seem to be up to that challenge. jmc a few years ago i had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a nearby dine navajo tribe and a moab resident. i asked the one question that had never been asked of her people if the whites had gone to the tribal council and asked to live in peace share the land and agree to work out differences without war what would have happened oh yes that question has never been asked before budd. the fact that it is discussed in so many history books aside good job man. she looked me in the eye and said that most likely if this had been done with all the indian nations then we would still be living side by side and in peace. well thast it then. i mean if she and you said it it must be. crud we really messed up this one. she and i discussed the drinking problem and we agreed it was because the american indian is in many ways still a second class citizen still under government subjugation. and they need to be taught to live without subsidy taught they are of worth and the reservations need to be disbanded. just another example of keeping the man down baby. this lady was one of the thousands of native american kids in the 50s that had been torn from their parents arms and fostered among the whites an attempt to force white ways upon the indians. since she has learned her peoples traditions laws and helped restore their original language and often works as the dine / white liaison in the local hospital. do you remember what was the leading cause or movement behind that action budd i do. read up on it. you will find it very interesting. im currently helping her youngest son get a ramcharger 4x4 running again by teaching him things about auto mechanics no longer taught in school. he was sold an engine that had been converted point type ignition and he knew nothing about how they worked. the vehicle had been his dads before he died from cancer. its an honor to be asked help someones son become a man. very liberal of you. boy do i feel a big chuckle on the way. well...........after reading ahead looks like you werent dissapointed. at the same time this keepin the mad down campaign is actually much easier on the eyes than the martyr one. i just wonder what crusade he will take up next any bets -- posted via a free u

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

budd cochran wrote something you advocate like in keep the christians down baby how many murders does it take to be a murderer how many bigotries to be a bigot http//homepage.mac.com/mcraigchr/budd.htm craig c. -- facts fakts -noun the pesky things that get in the way of religious doctrine. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

hi all... first post here. i see quite a few familiar names from the chevy groups. ive owned a 1984 b250 dodge van for years now and its been off the road for the last few. although its *highly* unfeasible to do so ive decided to start the process of getting it back on the road as it holds much sentimental value and i just enjoyed driving it a lot. before any real work can happen i need to find out a few things and my first question refers to which tranny it has. ive heard there are long and short versions of the 727 but i dont know which i have. the van is a standard-length van. by standard i mean its not a shorty and its not one of those with the extra long rear end hanging off the back...just your average sized utility van. id also like to know which rear axle it has. its been a good one. after a few engine and tranny swaps from back when my dad drove and didnt properly maintain it that rear axle has roughly 485000 miles on it. im not kidding. im looking forward to digging it out of the weeds at my ex-wifes place and getting it running well enough to drive out of there under its own power. i need to get to where i could meet a car-hauling buddy of mine for the long trip back to atlanta as its currently way out in the back woods of alabama. thanks all jp .

From : Annonymous

on mon 30 oct 2006 103912 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 071958 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 29-oct-06 1043 pm opinion i cant help with the truck but for explanation of the aboriginal situation their status is akin to that of the native american amerind in that theyve been mistreated over-run subjugated to the point of losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland the white man. living in the southwest us i meet many native americans and have met over the years a few aboriginals that escaped the oppression. in both peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their neighbors as equals. interestingly the liberals of both nations and britain tend to overlook the rights of the native peoples. actually its a good bit more complicated than that. the law supports aboriginals - over-supports them often due to legal aid - but certainly the history of what white australians did to the aboriginal is worse than what happened in the us. no its just the the superior species of man throwing its weight around. but many of individuals woes they brought on themselves - plenty of aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. but as with the american indian too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off the govt rather than take the harder road of overcoming history and becoming something more. when you destroy a groups collective soul dont be surprised if it hides in a bottle. tell a man hes worthless enough times and hell become worthless. the same is true of the amerinds and the abos as groups. oppression here is more on an individual rather than a govt basis. many aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics violent thieves beggars or all four living in town and causing problems. due to their culture which scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those individuals problems are much more on display than any other culture. one has to work very hard to stay open-minded and many white australians in this town dont seem to be up to that challenge. jmc a few years ago i had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a nearby dine navajo tribe and a moab resident. i asked the one question that had never been asked of her people if the whites had gone to the tribal council and asked to live in peace share the land and agree to work out differences without war what would have happened oh yes that question has never been asked before budd. the fact that it is discussed in so many history books aside good job man. she looked me in the eye and said that most likely if this had been done with all the indian nations then we would still be living side by side and in peace. well thast it then. i mean if she and you said it it must be. crud we really messed up this one. she and i discussed the drinking problem and we agreed it was because the american indian is in many ways still a second class citizen still under government subjugation. and they need to be taught to live without subsidy taught they are of worth and the reservations need to be disbanded. just another example of keeping the man down baby. this lady was one of the thousands of native american kids in the 50s that had been torn from their parents arms and fostered among the whites an attempt to force white ways upon the indians. since she has learned her peoples traditions laws and helped restore their original language and often works as the dine / white liaison in the local hospital. do you remember what was the leading cause or movement behind that action budd i do. read up on it. you will find it very interesting. im currently helping her youngest son get a ramcharger 4x4 running again by teaching him things about auto mechanics no longer taught in school. he was sold an engine that had been converted point type ignition and he knew nothing about how they worked. the vehicle had been his dads before he died from cancer. its an honor to be asked help someones son become a man. very liberal of you. boy do i feel a big chuckle on the way. well...........after reading ahead looks like you werent dissapointed. at the same time this keepin the mad down campaign is actually much easier on the eyes than the martyr one. i just wonder what crusade he will take up next any bets it is about time for a liberal political rant. should be a few smiles with that. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 30 oct 2006 103912 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 30 oct 2006 071958 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 29-oct-06 1043 pm opinion i cant help with the truck but for explanation of the aboriginal situation their status is akin to that of the native american amerind in that theyve been mistreated over-run subjugated to the point of losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland the white man. living in the southwest us i meet many native americans and have met over the years a few aboriginals that escaped the oppression. in both peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their neighbors as equals. interestingly the liberals of both nations and britain tend to overlook the rights of the native peoples. actually its a good bit more complicated than that. the law supports aboriginals - over-supports them often due to legal aid - but certainly the history of what white australians did to the aboriginal is worse than what happened in the us. no its just the the superior species of man throwing its weight around. but many of individuals woes they brought on themselves - plenty of aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. but as with the american indian too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off the govt rather than take the harder road of overcoming history and becoming something more. when you destroy a groups collective soul dont be surprised if it hides in a bottle. tell a man hes worthless enough times and hell become worthless. the same is true of the amerinds and the abos as groups. oppression here is more on an individual rather than a govt basis. many aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics violent thieves beggars or all four living in town and causing problems. due to their culture which scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those individuals problems are much more on display than any other culture. one has to work very hard to stay open-minded and many white australians in this town dont seem to be up to that challenge. jmc a few years ago i had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a nearby dine navajo tribe and a moab resident. i asked the one question that had never been asked of her people if the whites had gone to the tribal council and asked to live in peace share the land and agree to work out differences without war what would have happened oh yes that question has never been asked before budd. the fact that it is discussed in so many history books aside good job man. she looked me in the eye and said that most likely if this had been done with all the indian nations then we would still be living side by side and in peace. well thast it then. i mean if she and you said it it must be. crud we really messed up this one. she and i discussed the drinking problem and we agreed it was because the american indian is in many ways still a second class citizen still under government subjugation. and they need to be taught to live without subsidy taught they are of worth and the reservations need to be disbanded. just another example of keeping the man down baby. this lady was one of the thousands of native american kids in the 50s that had been torn from their parents arms and fostered among the whites an attempt to force white ways upon the indians. since she has learned her peoples traditions laws and helped restore their original language and often works as the dine / white liaison in the local hospital. do you remember what was the leading cause or movement behind that action budd i do. read up on it. you will find it very interesting. im currently helping her youngest son get a ramcharger 4x4 running again by teaching him things about auto mechanics no longer taught in school. he was sold an engine that had been converted point type ignition and he knew nothing about how they worked. the vehicle had been his dads before he died from cancer. its an honor to be asked help someones son become a man. very liberal of you. boy do i feel a big chuckle on the way. well...........after reading ahead looks like you werent dissapointed. at the same time this keepin the mad down campaign is actually much easier on the eyes than the martyr one. i just wonder what crusade he will take up next any bets .

From : Annonymous

bigironram wrote i just got migrated to road runner from comcast.net. i had to do the usual reboot of modems and routers and immediately lost 90%+ of my internet speed and access to giga comcasts outsourced nntp server. not happy called road runner busy signal sent message no response okay automated response just came in yet. ive checked dslreports.com and found lots of unhappy campers there. very poor service reported over there. i think i need an alternative dsl is probably out im about 24000 feet from the co. im thinking of going with dish network and wonder if anybody has any comments on that its high the platinum service is $80.00 for 1.5 mbs pretty slow compared to what im used to. i may bail out altogether. this is pretty frustrating. i just saw this in dfw.internet.providers. i feel for ya. all i can say is that im really happy with my dsl service. i know my addy says verizon but im actually with sbc. its about the only thing sbc does right. check again for dsl and switch to it if you can. good luck. bob .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 30 oct 2006 071958 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 29-oct-06 1043 pm opinion i cant help with the truck but for explanation of the aboriginal situation their status is akin to that of the native american amerind in that theyve been mistreated over-run subjugated to the point of losing their collective sense of worth by the invaders of their homeland the white man. living in the southwest us i meet many native americans and have met over the years a few aboriginals that escaped the oppression. in both peoples they just want to live their lives in peace and harmony with their neighbors as equals. interestingly the liberals of both nations and britain tend to overlook the rights of the native peoples. actually its a good bit more complicated than that. the law supports aboriginals - over-supports them often due to legal aid - but certainly the history of what white australians did to the aboriginal is worse than what happened in the us. no its just the the superior species of man throwing its weight around. but many of individuals woes they brought on themselves - plenty of aboriginals have managed to stay out of the bottle and make good lives for themselves. but as with the american indian too many have decided to hide in a bottle and live off the govt rather than take the harder road of overcoming history and becoming something more. when you destroy a groups collective soul dont be surprised if it hides in a bottle. tell a man hes worthless enough times and hell become worthless. the same is true of the amerinds and the abos as groups. oppression here is more on an individual rather than a govt basis. many aboriginals have given up and are alcoholics violent thieves beggars or all four living in town and causing problems. due to their culture which scorns buildings - they much prefer to be outside - those individuals problems are much more on display than any other culture. one has to work very hard to stay open-minded and many white australians in this town dont seem to be up to that challenge. jmc a few years ago i had a chance to speak with a lady of standing in a nearby dine navajo tribe and a moab resident. i asked the one question that had never been asked of her people if the whites had gone to the tribal council and asked to live in peace share the land and agree to work out differences without war what would have happened oh yes that question has never been asked before budd. the fact that it is discussed in so many history books aside good job man. she looked me in the eye and said that most likely if this had been done with all the indian nations then we would still be living side by side and in peace. well thast it then. i mean if she and you said it it must be. crud we really messed up this one. she and i discussed the drinking problem and we agreed it was because the american indian is in many ways still a second class citizen still under government subjugation. and they need to be taught to live without subsidy taught they are of worth and the reservations need to be disbanded. just another example of keeping the man down baby. this lady was one of the thousands of native american kids in the 50s that had been torn from their parents arms and fostered among the whites an attempt to force white ways upon the indians. since she has learned her peoples traditions laws and helped restore their original language and often works as the dine / white liaison in the local hospital. do you remember what was the leading cause or movement behind that action budd i do. read up on it. you will find it very interesting. im currently helping her youngest son get a ramcharger 4x4 running again by teaching him things about auto mechanics no longer taught in school. he was sold an engine that had been converted point type ignition and he knew nothing about how they worked. the vehicle had been his dads before he died from cancer. its an honor to be asked help someones son become a man. very liberal of you. boy do i feel a big chuckle on the way. .

From : mike simmons

recently i received my truck back from the body shop after they fixed the back fender. initially we were quite happy with the work - panel looks good as new from arms length. i have no quarrels with the quality of bodywork or the paint matching. in most light it is impossible to tell where the new paint is. the shop personnel have been patient and helpful with my questions/concerns so far. from closer up though i found some imperfections. im not sure if im being nitpicky or not thus this post. my truck is dark green/silver two tone. the first thing i noticed was that theres some green on the silver near the repair - theyve already agreed to fix that. its faint but noticeable. also the rear backup light no longer works despite a brand new light assembly. the old one did work after the accident. theyve agreed to have a look at this too. later ive noticed the following 1. theres an area of paint toward the front of the panel - probably where some blending was done - that looks like someone wiped a sponge over it and it dried leaving a water stain that dulls the paint. however this wont come off and is still noticeable after i tried waxing it. 2. on the next panel over theres a roughness to the paint that wont wash or wax out. since its up by the window i have no idea what it is cept it wasnt there last time i waxed. its unlikely to be environmental though as its behind my bed box. 3. looks like they created some little chip marks to the corner of the neighboring panel which they touched up. but those chips werent there before and are now quite noticeable despite the touch up. now all of these are small but to me they add up to a less-than-perfect quality control. but what i need to know is - is this normal and should i let it slide or am i justified in pointing them out and asking to have them fixed what sort of quality level is expected for some relatively minor body work thanks for any help. jmc .