Snow Tire Recommendations?
From : twix
Q: im still here still readin this group. i cant type much now because of my bad hand so thats why i dont reply much. its such a strain to type. something in my hand gave out a year ago and hasnt recovered since. because some jerk stole da machine it all has to be done manually now merry christmas or happy holidays to everyone. and to the guy who stole the machine hope the electrical wiring shorts out while youre using it denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote merry christmas to all from an old fart that doesnt log in much any more. have a safe holiday everybody. denny merry christmas to you too and everyone else. maybe you would find more time to log in if you wernt spending it with da machine. havent seen the machine since ole red and mac were fueding over it. but i did hear a rumor that dale snuck down and nabbed it one night. we dont hear much from him anymore either.. bg denny fmb north mexico .
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From : azwiley1
what a complete load of shit. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving drugs booze speed teens jerks macho men bikers other fools these substances and people types -- in various combinations -- kill 44000 of u.s. citizens a year. its been like this for decades. but nothing substantive is ever done to reduce this carnage. because nobody cares. are you part of the problem --------- a deadly story we keep missing by peter j. woolley the washington post wednesday december 27 2006; a19 the non-story of 2006 was also the non-story of 2005. it is a non-story every year going back decades. yet the number of people who die in car crashes in the united states is staggering even if it is absent from the agenda of most public officials and largely ignored by the public. when all is said and done and the ball begins to drop on new years eve 44000 people give or take several hundred will have died in auto accidents this year. to put that number in perspective consider that o at the 2006 casualty rate of 800 soldiers per year the united states would have to be in iraq for more than 50 years to equal just one year of automobile deaths back home. o in any five-year period the total number of traffic deaths in the united states equals or exceeds the number of people who died in the horrific south asian tsunami in december 2004. u.s. traffic deaths amount to the equivalent of two tsunamis every 10 years. o according to the national safety council your chance of dying in an automobile crash is one in 84 over your lifetime. but your chances of winning the mega millions lottery are just one in 175 million. o if you laid out side by side 8-by-10 photos of all those killed in crashes this year the pictures would stretch more than five miles. o if you made a yearbook containing the photos of those killed this year putting 12 photos on each page it would have 3500 pages. if you wanted to limit your traffic-death yearbook to a manageable 400 pages youd either have to squeeze more than 100 photos onto each page or issue an eight-volume set. can you hear me now automobile deaths are the leading cause of death for children for teenagers and in fact for all people from age 3 to 33. yet this annual tragedy is not a cause celebre. opinion leaders largely ignore the ubiquitous massacre. no marches walkathons commemorative stamps or fundraising drives are organized. it is not brought up in the state of the union address. it is rarely the subject of public affairs shows. statistics arent updated daily in major papers or broadcasts. gruesome crashes are reported just one at a time each as if it might never happen again. little attention is paid to the aftermath safety measures taken or not taken the workings or non-workings of the justice system. these avoidable deaths as well as more than 2 million nonfatal dismemberments disfigurements and other injuries that go along with them have become part of the fabric of everyday life in the united states. elected officeholders naturally take the path of least resistance. they are well aware that significantly reducing deaths on the roads requires radical solutions in the form of regulation investment and enforcement. roads need to be made safer for example by extending guardrails and medians to every mile of busy highways. speeding and aggressive driving need to be much more rigorously controlled. trucks need to be separated from automobiles wherever possible. and cars need to be built slower and stronger. but every solution is readily opposed by someone manufacturers industrial unions truckers consumers taxpayers -- though all are potential victims themselves. the public is not to blame. it is hemmed in on every side by mind-numbing advertising and shouted stories of the moment. apparently no medium is willing to bludgeon people -- as they need to be -- with statistics and trends on the dangers facing them every time they set out in their automobiles. only if there is a public outcry will this situation get the attention due it. only when people fully realize the absurd and avoidable costs of the dangers that stalk them on the road -- and then demand governmental action in the form of forceful intervention and strict regulation -- will this become the story of the year as it should be. the writer is a professor of political science at fairleigh dickinson university and executive director of publicmind a public opinion research group there. http//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/26/ar2006122600775.html ----- . 222 326735 45931aac$0$17148$4c368faf@roadrunner.com what you are seeing is the grid heater operating. when it cycles on it draws a huge amount of current 100a iirc and that will cause your gauge to swing to the low side. supplying this level of current does not come for free and whe
From : denny
suddenly without warning carolina watercraft works exclaimed 25-dec-06 407 pm id check out michelin ltx m/s. an excellent all around tire and these are what i use when i plow snow. there are times that i wish i had a dedicated snow tire and do plan ongetting a set to use only for plowing since i too run into ice a lot. for that i plan on getting blizzak w965 tires. i bought these tires based on recommendations from this ng and im very happy with them. truck did beautifully in scotland recently darn was going to post a link till i realized i never posted the pics. anyway they closed the road behind me ice or unplowed road windrows from the sometimes 90mph side winds and some snow around 1.5 or more deep - the truck did fantastic we didnt end up even coming close to the ditch like some unfortunate nissan pickup owner did partway down the road. now the trucks in the desert and the tires are gripping pretty well on the fine dirt/sand here in outback australia. ive never plowed before so i cant comment on that. jmc .
From : roy
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= abuse in set-up situations and in public -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- strangers in the street have recognized me on sight many times and shown awareness of the current thread of abuse. to give you one example in 1992 i was seriously ill and a manager at work somewhat humorously said that it wasnt fair that people were bullying me. a few days later i attended for the first time a clinic in london as an outpatient and on my way out was accosted by someone who asked if they had paid my fare with emphasis on the word fare. he repeated the word several times in this different context; that they should have paid my fare each time emphasizing the word. for two and a half years from the time their harassment started until november 1992 i refused to see a psychiatrist because i reasoned that i was not ill of my own action or fault but through the stress caused by harassment and that a lessening of the illness would have to be consequent to a removal of its immediate cause in other words a cessation of harassment. i also reasoned that since they were taunting me with jokes about mental illness if i were to seek treatment then the abusers would think that they had won and been proved right. remember the constant theme of any persecution is we must destroy you because youre x whether x is a racial or other attribute. in this case the x was we persecute you because you have brain disease. the similarity of this logic to nazi attitudes to the mentally ill is striking. the same manager whod said it wasnt fair asked me in winter 1992 why i didnt seek help from a psychiatrist; was it he asked because they would think they had won if i sought treatment that was something id never said at work... again taken separately it proves nothing but many such things over a period of months proves conclusively that people in the company knew what was going on and in quite a lot of detail. usually harassment in public lacks the level of finesse of paying your fare. most peoples imagination does not go beyond moronic parroting of the current term of denigration. that is not surprising given the average level of the abusers; if they do not have the intelligence to distinguish wrong from right then neither will they have the capacity for anything other than mindless repetition of a monosyllabic term calculated to fit into their minds. the first incidents of verbal assault in public were in again in the summer of 1990 although they increased in frequency and venom with time. in july 1990 the first public incident occurred on a tube train on the northern line. two men and their girlfriends recognised me; the women sprang to my defence saying he looks perfectly normal he doesnt look ill. their boyfriends of course knew better and followed the party line; one of them made reference to an operation apparently to work at the tube station but implicitly to a visit that i had made to hospital a couple of weeks previously. in august 1990 going home from college soon after getting on a tube train at gloucester road i was followed by a group of four youths who started a chant of abuse. that they were targeting me was confirmed by other people in the carriage one of whom asked the other who are they going on at is it the bloke who just got on to which the second replied yes i think so. i was tempted to reply but as in every other instance the abusers are enabled in their cowardice by physically outnumbering the abused; any confrontation would result in my being beaten up followed by a complaint to the police that he attacked us and of course hes ill so he must have been imagining that we were getting at him. shitty arent they but the shittiness of the four youths on the tube train is as nothing compared to the episode on the national express coach to dover in the summer of 1992. while going on holiday to the continent i was verbally set upon by a couple travelling sitting a few rows behind. the boy did the talking his female companion contributing only a continuous empty giggling noise. he spoke loudly to ensure other people on the coach heard always about they and this bloke but never naming either the abusers or the person he was talking about. he said they had found somebody from his school and he was always really stressed at school. they must have dug deep to find enemies there; perhaps someone who dropped out of school someone who didnt do too well later who was jealous and keen to get their own back the boy also said he was in a bed and breakfast for only one night and they got him. by a not unexpected coincidence i had been in a b&b in oxford a week previously which had been booked from work; other things lead me to the conclusion that the companys offices were bugged for most of the 2 1/2 years that i was there so they would have known a room in the b&b had been booked. but ill bet they d
From : azwiley1
on mon 25 dec 2006 013703 -0500 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote id check out michelin ltx m/s. an excellent all around tire and these are what i use when i plow snow. there are times that i wish i had a dedicated snow tire and do plan ongetting a set to use only for plowing since i too run into ice a lot. for that i plan on getting blizzak w965 tires. part of the cause the problem original poster is having is because truck is very heavy in front compared to rear and while a better tire will help so will more weight in rear. if you place it on a scale you will find close 5000lbs of weight on front axle as it sits and maybe about half that in rear or a bit more unloaded. better tires and about 800 to 1000lbs in rear between wheel wells would help a good bit. i dont know why im doing this. but.... if you are useing the weight as compensatory weight you move it behind the rear wheels. if between a goodly portion of the added weight is transfered to the front. kinda look at the rear wheels as a fulcrum. of course if ya use the weight that suggested you cant use the back of your truck and youll be blinding everybody while driving at night. but this whole exersise is moot with the right tire. when you have a lightly loaded driven axle pushing a much heavier one you will have issues on slick pavement though some may like to claim it is not a factor. also i have driven with blizzaks on a vehicle and they are not bad but i preffer studs for the really bad stuff. i run studded 10 ply bias style truck snow tires on my plow trucks in winter i have them mounted on extra sets of rims and they beat blizzaks in over all performance on ice and deep snow. nah this would be a waste of time. let me say this. if you plow snow most learn to do it correctly real fast. ive found that while plowing you should be behind your plow it is on the front of my truck. you have any idea what im driving on while plowing yup a fairly well scraped road or parking lot. the danger with studs is you cant stop on dry pavement or wet at speed over 15mph. well youll stop eventually. i dont know if this fool has them on all 4 wheels or what. much easier to use chains than studs if you feel the need. idiot please spare us the stories of the howling blizzards and other stories. been there done that. you know if he is soooo good id like to see him and his studded tires in a buffalo ny lake effect snow storm that dumps 84 in 36 hours. thats just it he isnt. 84 in 36 hours sorta give the term plow with the snowfall a whole new meaning. roy .
From : azwiley1
this group is like good ole home made apple pie you keep coming back for more. what did you get for christmas nathan i got a carhartt clothing xmas a carhartt tshirt and work shirt. a john deere trailer hitch receiver cover 40 oz bottle of canadian rye whiskey socks and some dvd movies. dale lo2dnbf4-ol11g3ynz2dnuvzrkvnz2d@bresnan.com nathan in montana montanajeeper@aol.com wrote the folks here have really been great .....give em time. ;- in all seriousness ive been reading this group since 96 and despite a few personal spats that never end its a great group as a whole. .
From : roy
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-= -= the bbc television and radio -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-= the first incident in june 1990 was when a bbc reader made what seemed to be a reaction to something which had happened in my home and out of context of what they were reading. my first reaction was disbelief; nothing of the sort had ever happened before the idea that such a thing could occur had not crossed my mind yet there was no doubt of what had just taken place. my disbelief eroded as this recurred time after time. besides the offenders included shows such as crimewatch ! night and entertainment shows. there seems to be very little moral understanding among the people who make these programmes; they just assume they will never be caught so they carry on without a thought for the illegality or amorality of what they do. the only time i ever heard a word raised in doubt was by paxman being interviewed by someone else i think by clive anderson back in 1990; referring to the watching he said it troubled him and when asked by the host what you could do about it replied well you could just switch it off meaning the surveillance monitor in the studio. he clearly didnt let his doubts stand in the way of continued surreptitious spying from his own or other peoples shows though. now youre convinced this is a troll arent you this story has been the subject of much debate on the uk.* usenet groups for over a year and some readers believe it to be an invention it has even been suggested that a group of psychology students are responsible! others think it symptomatic of a derangement of the author and a few give it credence. quite a few people do know part or all of the story already so this text will fill in the gaps in their knowledge. for the rest what may persuade you of the third possibility is that some of the incidents detailed are checkable against any archives of radio and tv programmes that exist; that the incidents involve named people even if those hiding in the shadows have not made their identity or affiliations evident and those people may be persuaded to come out with the truth; and that the campaign of harassment is continuing today both in the uk and on the american continent in a none-too-secret fashion; by its nature the significant risk of exposure increases with time. on several occasions people said to my face that harassment from the tv was happening. on the first day i worked in oxford i spent the evening in the local pub with the companys technical director ian and phil another employee. ian made a few references to me and said to phil as if in an aside is he the bloke whos been on tv to which phil replied yes i think so. i made a number of efforts to find the bugs without success; last year we employed professional counter-surveillance people to scan for bugs see later again without result. in autumn 1990 i disposed of my tv and watched virtually no television for the next three years. but harassment from tv stations has gone on for over six years and continues to this day. this is something that many people obviously know is happening; yet the tv staff have the morality of paedophiles that because theyre getting away with it they feel no wrong. other people who were involved in the abuse in 1990 were djs on bbc radio stations notably disc jockeys from radio 1 and other stations see the following section. again since they dont have sense in the first place they cant be expect to have the moral sense not to be part of criminal harassment. 218 -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .
From : roy
once upon a time very long ago santa was having a very bad christmas. the reindeers had gotten into the eggnog and got themselves quite drunk. rudolphs nose was bright red and the reindeer were tangled in their traces. then as santa was loading presents on to the sleigh the runner broke off one side and dumped all the presents into the snow. so santa called for the sleigh jack and jacked it up. nailed the runner back on. about that time the other runner fell off and dumped the presents into the snow on the other side. about this time the christmas angel came up to santa and reminded him that there was no christmas tree at the north pole for mrs. claus. santa had all he could handle so he told the christmas angel to just go out and find a good tree and everything would be ok. there sat poor santa with his head in his hands. no christmas tree... not enough gifts for boys and girls... the reindeer in no condition to pull the sleigh... and no sleigh to pull. everything had gone very wrong. suddenly the christmas angel returned dragging behind him a huge christmas tree.hey santa! i have your christmas tree. where do you want me to stick it ....and so began the tradition of the angel atop the christmas tree. .
From : roy
oh god the idiot is back yup hes been spending his time annoying other groups. hopefully it will be a short stay. on mon 25 dec 2006 013703 -0500 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote id check out michelin ltx m/s. an excellent all around tire and these are what i use when i plow snow. there are times that i wish i had a dedicated snow tire and do plan ongetting a set to use only for plowing since i too run into ice a lot. for that i plan on getting blizzak w965 tires. .
From : twix
b879ab2e6ba0c3f39f33710fcea9c7cc@localhost.talkaboutautos.com noautopro geneandhillarybrison@yahoo.com wrote i have just replaced the multi function switch on my sons 97 dodge lariat slt with a 5.9 l v8. the dims did not work before and still do not and we were told a new switch would be needed. this replacement did not solve the problem. brights work fine and fog lights work fine. any other ideas about how to fix this problem would be appreciated. you mean laramine yeah i know that the lariat is a much better truck .
From : snoman
oh god the idiot is back on mon 25 dec 2006 013703 -0500 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote id check out michelin ltx m/s. an excellent all around tire and these are what i use when i plow snow. there are times that i wish i had a dedicated snow tire and do plan ongetting a set to use only for plowing since i too run into ice a lot. for that i plan on getting blizzak w965 tires. part of the cause the problem original poster is having is because truck is very heavy in front compared to rear and while a better tire will help so will more weight in rear. if you place it on a scale you will find close 5000lbs of weight on front axle as it sits and maybe about half that in rear or a bit more unloaded. better tires and about 800 to 1000lbs in rear between wheel wells would help a good bit. when you have a lightly loaded driven axle pushing a much heavier one you will have issues on slick pavement though some may like to claim it is not a factor. also i have driven with blizzaks on a vehicle and they are not bad but i preffer studs for the really bad stuff. i run studded 10 ply bias style truck snow tires on my plow trucks in winter i have them mounted on extra sets of rims and they beat blizzaks in over all performance on ice and deep snow. granted the tires are low tech compare to radials in some regards but they are withfew if any peers when it really gets ugly plus since sidewalls are as strong as tread ply wise you will be very hard pressed to damage sidewalls on hidden object with the bias plys plowing snow while is not hard to damage a radial sidewall sometimes. in well over 20 years of plowing i have tried a lot of tires and on a whim i tried a new set of traction grip studded bias ply truck tires on some old extra 16.5 rims about 4 years ago on one truck and was so pleased i bought a set for other. i will never go back to a radial on plow truck in winter. sure the handling is not as crisp and they are noisy but those tires are really sure footed and the stiff side walls really help the big edge cleats molded into tire and the studs in them dig in when needed. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : jmc
i need a tire recommendation. two winters ago i was tooling around amarillo in a dodge dakota with bridgestone dueler a/ts. they had no problems handling the conditions i routinely faced there. last winter i had just bought a cummins 2500 4x4 ram and was immediately called up out of the reserves to go to iraq. now im back and discovered this winter that the current set of factory tires wil be inadequate for the conditions i face there this year. first hint of ice and the truck turns into an ice skate. i understand this happens to any vehicle on ice but some tires offer a little better grip then others. with that in mind id like to toss out my working conditions and see what some of you are using and recommending for winter conditions on your 2500/3500 rams. i am the manager at a wind power plant outside amarillo. in the winter we get lots of rain and our site roads are dirt/caliche which can get very soft. i also need to deal with snow and more importantly ice; because amarillo frequently gets ice storms. i guess you named 4 different conditions. the only tire that will come close to dealing with all is the blizzak imo. they are the best one ice and snowthe most dangerous of your conditions given the sticky compound of the rubber and sipeing of the tread. they are good in rain and on dry. the only knock on them is they are a dedicated tire. when it is warm out you have to take them off as you will burn the tread off of them. like everything else it is a compromise. roy .
From : twix
on sun 24 dec 2006 132457 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote my best wishes to everyone for a very merry christmas and a happy holiday season. we are blessed to live in this wonderful country and share each others friendship. god bless! mike very merry and happy happy to everyone. though this goes with out saying please remember to take a moment tomorrow as we all enjoy the day to say a little prayer for all our troops that are not fortunate enough to be home with family and loved ones. while i add my best holiday wishes to all of you like larry i want to make a special mention to all of our soldiers all over the world and to wish them good health and a happy return. .
From : roy
im still here still readin this group. i cant type much now because of my bad hand so thats why i dont reply much. its such a strain to type. something in my hand gave out a year ago and hasnt recovered since. because some jerk stole da machine it all has to be done manually now well dale i think we found it. seems the rabbit has had it for some time. merry christmas or happy holidays to everyone. same to you pal. and to the guy who stole the machine hope the electrical wiring shorts out while youre using it given dennys post it would seem that the electrical system is holding up okay. but lubeing it with carrot juice is causing him some problems. your right this one hand typing is a pia!! roy denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote merry christmas to all from an old fart that doesnt log in much any more. have a safe holiday everybody. denny merry christmas to you too and everyone else. maybe you would find more time to log in if you wernt spending it with da machine. havent seen the machine since ole red and mac were fueding over it. but i did hear a rumor that dale snuck down and nabbed it one night. we dont hear much from him anymore either.. bg denny fmb north mexico .
From : mpberti
merry christmas to all from an old fart that doesnt log in much any more. have a safe holiday everybody. denny merry christmas to you too and everyone else. maybe you would find more time to log in if you wernt spending it with da machine. havent seen the machine since ole red and mac were fueding over it. but i did hear a rumor that dale snuck down and nabbed it one night. we dont hear much from him anymore either.. bg wait a damn minute! ill admit to have had a few meds this week but that was a few days ago. but my wide assed buddy dont for a second think your going to run that line of bs. now if you folks remember back about a year ago there was a time when mac was heading to the northwest to visit his son. he was going to haul the machine up to red. ya with me here anyway as soon as that report got out there was a additional report of a floppy eared pudgy guy in a pink rabbit suit heading west in a dodge truck with a plow up front and carrots in the bed mumbling about im going to get it theyll never stop me. as mac told the story he parked for the night the next morning the machine was gone. next we heard of that same pink rabbit suit wearing guy in the plow truck was headed back east with no longer carrots in the back but with this large box. now does anybody want to guess what was in the box since that time he has turned his home into a armed camp. ars a 50 blow up dolls you name he has it. hell it has been reported here that his daughter is a better shot than he is. also note that he hasnt posted much recently. probably too weak to type with all the sessions with the machine. my uncle used to always say that the more a person talks the more hes trying to hide/cover up something. im thinking it took ole roy a bunch of time to peck all that out one handed. the perverts in here are probably wondering what that other hand has been doing. i gotta ask not that ill get any straight answer out of you does the machine really need lubed before every usage hmmmm..... two replies to one post i think that maybe the rabbit might want to fess up. now he wants to know if the machine has to be lubed. what did you do wear it out probably thought it would run on carrot juice!g perhaps if ya read the friggin owners manual!!!!!! roy denny .
From : dale yonz
merry christmas to all from an old fart that doesnt log in much any more. have a safe holiday everybody. denny merry christmas to you too and everyone else. maybe you would find more time to log in if you wernt spending it with da machine. havent seen the machine since ole red and mac were fueding over it. but i did hear a rumor that dale snuck down and nabbed it one night. we dont hear much from him anymore either.. bg wait a damn minute! ill admit to have had a few meds this week but that was a few days ago. but my wide assed buddy dont for a second think your going to run that line of bs. now if you folks remember back about a year ago there was a time when mac was heading to the northwest to visit his son. he was going to haul the machine up to red. ya with me here anyway as soon as that report got out there was a additional report of a floppy eared pudgy guy in a pink rabbit suit heading west in a dodge truck with a plow up front and carrots in the bed mumbling about im going to get it theyll never stop me. as mac told the story he parked for the night the next morning the machine was gone. next we heard of that same pink rabbit suit wearing guy in the plow truck was headed back east with no longer carrots in the back but with this large box. now does anybody want to guess what was in the box since that time he has turned his home into a armed camp. ars a 50 blow up dolls you name he has it. hell it has been reported here that his daughter is a better shot than he is. also note that he hasnt posted much recently. probably too weak to type with all the sessions with the machine. my uncle used to always say that the more a person talks the more hes trying to hide/cover up something. im thinking it took ole roy a bunch of time to peck all that out one handed. the perverts in here are probably wondering what that other hand has been doing. i gotta ask not that ill get any straight answer out of you does the machine really need lubed before every usage denny .
From : roy
partner wrote i have taken this problem to two shops and got completely different diagnostics. it seems that the dodge dealers mechanic should have a better insight on what the problem is. this is a dangerous assumption. the dealer technicians ive dealt with are nothing but part changers. if the book or the computer cant tell them what to do they are lost. my 2002 dodge dakota had six defects when it was new. i had to tell the dodge technicians what to do in all six cases. when they refused to fix the last defect i filed a lemon law suit that cost dc $6k. jam .
From : dale yonz
that would be a good one for little johnnie to receite at next years schools christmas concert stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote once upon a time very long ago santa was having a very bad christmas.tha the reindeers had gotten into the eggnog and got themselves quite drunk. rudolphs nose was bright red and the reindeer were tangled in their traces. then as santa was loading presents on to the sleigh the runner broke off one side and dumped all the presents into the snow. so santa called for the sleigh jack and jacked it up. nailed the runner back on. about that time the other runner fell off and dumped the presents into the snow on the other side. about this time the christmas angel came up to santa and reminded him that there was no christmas tree at the north pole for mrs. claus. santa had all he could handle so he told the christmas angel to just go out and find a good tree and everything would be ok. there sat poor santa with his head in his hands. no christmas tree... not enough gifts for boys and girls... the reindeer in no condition to pull the sleigh... and no sleigh to pull. everything had gone very wrong. suddenly the christmas angel returned dragging behind him a huge christmas tree.hey santa! i have your christmas tree. where do you want me to stick it ...and so began the tradition of the angel atop the christmas tree. .
From : carolina watercraft works
the ltx m/s tires were very good. i first had the ltx a/s not good at all right now i have bf goodrich all terrain t/a dale carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote id check out michelin ltx m/s. an excellent all around tire and these are what i use when i plow snow. there are times that i wish i had a dedicated snow tire and do plan ongetting a set to use only for plowing since i too run into ice a lot. for that i plan on getting blizzak w965 tires. .