Should glow plug light illuminate during bulb check?
From : miles
Q: im thinking about buying a new 2007 ram quad cab diesel. found a dealer who has a 4x4 with the big horn package and some other options. msrp is 44k. they will come down to 38k. there must be a factory to dealer rebate i dont know about as this price does not include the factory to dealer rebate of $4000. so that brings the price down to 34k. my company is a supplier to chrysler so i can get another $5000 off. that brings it down to 29k. this particular truck has the older 5.9l engine which is discontinued. any reason not to go with this engine and instead opt for the newer models one issue i see is that the new engine also comes with an exhaust brake which i do not see listed on this truck. i did just that. i had two reasons though. - i thought that ulsd would be hard to find. it is the only diesel that is sold here in canada now so it would not have made a difference. - i also like the idea of having a tired and proven engine. my ctd has dragged my trailer 2800 km to winnipeg and back as its break in. i now has over 8k on it and most of it involves towing. i love the truck and the engine. it is now fun to tow our trailer again. we have had no issues or concerns with the 5.9. wayne .
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From : nosey
on tue 25 sep 2007 115404 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote ok just got off the phone with dynatrac and per the feedback they receive the increase in mpg is 2-4 depending of course on the driver. that being said if you see an average of 3 mpg increase with a 34 gal tank you will get an additional 102 miles. and if you are paying $2.95 for premium as i am then you will save about $29.00 per fill up. at $1900 per kit it will take about 66 full tanks to pay for itself. for me thats about 1.5 years. if i can eek out 4 then its even better. realistically figure on a 1 to maybe 2 mpg increase on a fullsized truck at most with larger amount being in winter when drive axle lube is thicker and has more drag do to increased shear forces required. a small 4x4 might gain a bit more the silly part is that dodge choose to leave out lockout hubs to save maybe 50 to 75 bucks or so on every truck. when they had aam make a new front axle for them starting in 03 for hd models they requestedspecd that lock out hubs or axle disconnects be left off too there was a time when lockout hubs where the defacto standard on 4x4s but in recent times dodge did away with it and even dropped axle disconnect too to save costs and simplify things. ford and gm still use either hubs or a axle disconnect so that front drive shaft does not turn in 2wd. jeep suffers dodges fate too i would honestly maybe consider a dodge some time in future if they would bring back lockout hubs on hd trucks. lack of them makes them more of a no brainer for people that would not know how to use 4x4 with them but if you cannot get out and lock a hub when needed you should not be in a 4x4 anyway. you could always leave them locked when you may be using 4x4 a lot but it is plain stupid to be spinning front drive axle in 2wd cruising down highway. given todays fuel market it is pigheadily stupid of dodge not to include some sort of lock out hubs or front axle disconnect because it could save owner a few grand in fuel costs over life of truck given todays and tomorrows fuel prices. ----------------- thesnoman.com . 222 339385 46fa67b1$0$62310$892e0abb@auth.reader.octa.com thanks i was leaning that way myself it is just the tach wire but i wanted a sanity check from someone who might know for sure. yep - they just want to be supplied a pulse to know that the engines running. hopefully theres some method of calibrating the module to the fact that 1 pulse = 1rpm as each coil pack fires two plugs one in its own cylinder and one in its opposite-in-the-firing-order cylinder rather than a traditional coil/distributor setup where 4 pulses = 1rpm. to determine that the engine has actually started as opposed to just being cranked around by the starter the remote-start computer wants to see an rpm of 500 or so. .
From : wayne j
thanks i was leaning that way myself it is just the tach wire but i wanted a sanity check from someone who might know for sure. thanks for the suggestion! will each cylinder has a coil on the heemi! where do i connect it claims i should connect at top of engine to blue/green wire. where the picture is not clear to me... where is this coil under the air dam box on top the engine it is not easy tof ind i know that. sounds like they want you to tap into the dark blue/dark green wire coming from coil pack #1 front cylinder drivers side. you may have to remove the air box to get to this. .
From : nosey
have you ever used these kits i have to assume your answer is no....so you have no real world experience on these. while im sure you would like to be correct... and you may be....you have never used these so you shouldnt speculate on the benefit increases. i can get an additional 1 mpg increase just by using an additive to my oil and fuel zmax guys http//www.zmax.com/ so i think the reduced drag from the axles would supply and even better increase. i may be wrong...but i think 2-4 mpg increase is possible.....well see. personally im more likely to trust the manufacturer on the feedback they have received. what worse publicity could they receive by giving out false information on gains it would have a negative impact imo. i will most likely be able to provide my own feedback as i plan on getting this kit. lets make a deal eh snoman -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels on tue 25 sep 2007 115404 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote ok just got off the phone with dynatrac and per the feedback they receive the increase in mpg is 2-4 depending of course on the driver. that being said if you see an average of 3 mpg increase with a 34 gal tank you will get an additional 102 miles. and if you are paying $2.95 for premium as i am then you will save about $29.00 per fill up. at $1900 per kit it will take about 66 full tanks to pay for itself. for me thats about 1.5 years. if i can eek out 4 then its even better. realistically figure on a 1 to maybe 2 mpg increase on a fullsized truck at most with larger amount being in winter when drive axle lube is thicker and has more drag do to increased shear forces required. a small 4x4 might gain a bit more the silly part is that dodge choose to leave out lockout hubs to save maybe 50 to 75 bucks or so on every truck. when they had aam make a new front axle for them starting in 03 for hd models they requestedspecd that lock out hubs or axle disconnects be left off too there was a time when lockout hubs where the defacto standard on 4x4s but in recent times dodge did away with it and even dropped axle disconnect too to save costs and simplify things. ford and gm still use either hubs or a axle disconnect so that front drive shaft does not turn in 2wd. jeep suffers dodges fate too i would honestly maybe consider a dodge some time in future if they would bring back lockout hubs on hd trucks. lack of them makes them more of a no brainer for people that would not know how to use 4x4 with them but if you cannot get out and lock a hub when needed you should not be in a 4x4 anyway. you could always leave them locked when you may be using 4x4 a lot but it is plain stupid to be spinning front drive axle in 2wd cruising down highway. given todays fuel market it is pigheadily stupid of dodge not to include some sort of lock out hubs or front axle disconnect because it could save owner a few grand in fuel costs over life of truck given todays and tomorrows fuel prices. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : wayne j
on tue 25 sep 2007 115404 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote ok just got off the phone with dynatrac and per the feedback they receive the increase in mpg is 2-4 depending of course on the driver. that being said if you see an average of 3 mpg increase with a 34 gal tank you will get an additional 102 miles. and if you are paying $2.95 for premium as i am then you will save about $29.00 per fill up. at $1900 per kit it will take about 66 full tanks to pay for itself. for me thats about 1.5 years. if i can eek out 4 then its even better. realistically figure on a 1 to maybe 2 mpg increase on a fullsized truck at most with larger amount being in winter when drive axle lube is thicker and has more drag do to increased shear forces required. a small 4x4 might gain a bit more the silly part is that dodge choose to leave out lockout hubs to save maybe 50 to 75 bucks or so on everytruck. when they had aam make a new front axle for them starting in 03 for hd models they requestedspecd that lock out hubs or axle disconnects be left off too there was a time when lockout hubs where the defacto standard on 4x4s but in recent times dodge did away with it and even dropped axle disconnect too to save costs and simplify things. ford and gm still use either hubs or a axle disconnect so that front drive shaft does not turn in 2wd. jeep suffers dodges fate too i would honestly maybe consider a dodge some time in future if they would bring back lockout hubs on hd trucks. lack of them makes them more of a no brainer for people that would not know how to use 4x4 with them but if you cannot get out and lock a hub when needed you should not be in a 4x4 anyway. you could always leave them locked when you may be using 4x4 a lot but it is plain stupid to be spinning front drive axle in 2wd cruising down highway. given todays fuel market it is pigheadily stupid of dodge not to include some sort of lock out hubs or front axle disconnect because it could save owner a few grand in fuel costs over life of truck given todays and tomorrows fuel prices. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : wayne j
tbone wrote you do know that wasnt roy right no.. no i didnt but i wasnt offended i thought he was just making light of the who crazy thread. it made me laugh .
From : miles
wayne j. wrote if the coil is needed it will come on when i turn the key to on. i did not know there was a self test. in most vehicles all the lights light up when the key is first turned on. it seems thats not so on dodges. only certain lights come on. however doing the full test as fmb described does light up all lights. so now i know the coil bulb works! .
From : fmb
wayne j. wrote i never see my coil light come on until around 15c 62f. i was told there are no more glow plugs just coils. not even in the bulb self test when key is first turned to the on position .
From : wayne j
once again i offer you folks a chance to jump or hop on the pats wagon. rabbit your beloved bengals are up for a thumpin monday night. what do ya say gbmfg roy .
From : nosey
we were driving down the road and headlights flickered and dash lights dimmed for just a second two or three times. about 5 minutes later we lost headlights breaklights parking lights taillights dash lights and horn and buzzers. any ideas what this could be. .
From : miles
.bob wrote guylawrence@shaw.ca wrote the headlight illumination on my 1998 dodge ram 2500 cummins is so dangerously bad....i do not drive this vehicle at night. i have called the local dealership and they have no record of such a problem...and no ideas as to how to recitfy the problem. last year i replaced the bulbs with pia 9004-6545 watt...small improvement. i can drive at night on high beam...all the time. nobody flashes at me....including the folks i drive behind. the lenses look clear. are the reflective surfaces breaking down is this an electrical problem....grounding...voltage i think these are the same lights as the infamous caravan headlights. is there an aftermarket drop-in replacement that works do i have to sell this vehicle due to inadequate headlight illumination #1 cause for dim lights of any kind dash headlight etc is a poor ground. chase down the grounds and clean themn up. or you could just run a new ground wire. -- .bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. how about the lenses on the front sometimes they can become etched and hazed from years of sand and grit hitting them at high speed. jam .
From : wayne j
wayne j. wrote i never see my coil light come on until around 15c 62f. i was told there are no more glow plugs just coils. not even in the bulb self test when key is first turned to the on position if the coil is needed it will come on when i turn the key to on. i did not know there was a self test. it never came on most of the summer. it only comes on when it is cool outside below 15c wayne .