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From : geronimo

Q: on fri 15 sep 2006 013032 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote if i constantly interjected myself into the conversations of others telling them how wonderful i thought vegetarianism was over and over and over again.... and someone finally told me to shove my celery stalks up my ass i should feel discriminated against for being a vegetarian damn... no heated seats for you tom.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

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From : nosey

i really tried to take the high road here but you just wont let me. you keep bringing my name up in this and now seem to be putting the blame for all of it on me and theguy. so iow a vigilante group or person with no official sanction can destroy a house of worship and not be prosecuted arson... vandalism... willful destruction of property.... tresspass... hate crime... plenty of choices to prosecute under. a civil rights claim could most probably be made in those circumstances as well. but surely youre not comparing craigs words to you in this group to a firebombing of a church how about its a hate crime based on the words used in public forum obviously he hates what i represent christians. the point is that even if this were true hate in itself is not a crime. if he did something to you or even threatened you based on that hate then it could be a hate crime but telling someone to shut up is not a crime and if it is not a crime it cannot be a hate crime. because im a christian im harrassed and called names and i wouldnt be surprised to find there is at least one person that would want to beat me up for my beliefs. if i constantly interjected myself into the conversations of others telling them how wonderful i thought vegetarianism was over and over and over again.... and someone finally told me to shove my celery stalks up my ass i should feel discriminated against for being a vegetarian tom i hope youre not accusing me of forcing my beliefs into conversations that have no religious content. i dont understand how correcting an error is forcing my way into the conversation and ive only done that a couple times when there was a misquote or mis interpretation.. you keep making these claims that you are correcting errors but the real question is who is bringing it up in the first place and what gives you the ultimate knowledge to correct anyone again no one has actually proved i did what you said force my way into a non-religious conversation. stop and think tom the whole thing started some time back when i commented during an argument with t-bone and theguy on my beliefs because i apologized for using language i do not want to use and they began the attacks. and it really hasnt let up whether i mention my beliefs in a post or not someone drags it in or causes me to try and correct a possibly deliberatly wrong quote or misconception by themselves just to drag it out knowing i believe i must corect errors. nobody needs to prove anything as you have just done so yourself by admitting to it. you as usual backed up your actions with your claimed religion and then took bible quotes out of context to back up your childish reactions and hateful responses. when people called you on this your bible rewriting you then started your extremist crap and stormed out of the ng in a big huff because everyone didnt agree with you and now claim it as nothing more than correcting others and being picked on for it. the problem with that is the assumption that you are correct in everything that you claim and say and when it comes to religion nobody can make that claim. if you also bother to recall once the religious crap got started i bailed out of the thread as it became a no-win situation so blaming me for it is nothing more than a false accusation. perhaps you are the one committing a hate crime against me. its a hate crime and they are just bullies. once again false accusations and complete bullshit. even if you consider us bullies for doing the very same thing you have done to others there was no crime of any kind committed. as i see it youre not harrassed i quote that because i dont believe it has risen to the level of harrassment or called names simply because youre a christian. i think people get exasperated with what they perceive to be someone preaching to them.... theres a big difference there. now you hit the nail on the head. its what people in their bias percieve as happening and then refusing to admit they went overboard much more than they claim i have. and that would be your bias claiming that everyone has gone more overboard than you but the proof is in the pudding and the fact that everyone is saying that lately you are the one going overboard says it all. what laws were the kkk members tried under tom what theyre doing is no different. again you compare the burning of a cross on someones lawn and the lynching of someone in their backyard to someone on an internet group telling you to shut up. why not a hate crime is a hate crime. hahahahahahaha could you possibly be any more ignorant. please tell us how someone being killed or their property being damaged equates in any possible way to being told to shut up im sorry budd.... your logic is severely warped here. is it crimes of hate take many forms. there are more ways to hurt people than most pe

From : big al

on wed 20 sep 2006 101953 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote man i have stuff from tom l. gary g. budd and some others that i could dust off. bring it on!!! id forgotten all about the turkey greg posted. that went back a few years... denny i hate saying it but this almost seems like a aadt budd funeral. beekeep .