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Saddam capptured, thank you Mike Simmons Jr and all the other troops

From : gary glaenzer

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From : mike simmons

i have a 99 dak right now with the 5.2 v8 and a supposed 220hp and 3.55 gears. here is the question. would trading it in for a 3.7 v6 with 3.92 gears 210 hp be a dramatic mistake what is the gas mileage difference between the 3.7 and the 4.7 there is a 20hp diff and a 55 ft-lb diff. i do not tow anything. i do a lot of city driving and freeway traffic driving. i know you dont buy a truck for fuel economy but i am thinking the v8 just might be worse mpg for extra power that i really dont need. i will have to test drive both of them and find out. .

From : mike simmons

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From : budd cochran

i just got off the phone with my son at jax nas. he was waiting for his bus ride home for christmas. he told me the feeling all over jacksonville was about the same as your sons and even higher among his shipmates. he said to ask you to tell your son thanks for him. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : mac davis

on sun 14 dec 2003 180259 gmt gary glaenzer nobulltrans@mchsi.com wrote right gary... wasnt he the one that said that he would fight until the last bullet or something maybe that didnt include his bullets and surrendered like a whooped pup http//msnbc.msn.com/default.aspxid=3708151&p1=0 holed up near tikrit in a farmhouse. ken .

From : mac davis

on sun 14 dec 2003 140208 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote we found out the same way mike... we were out camping and our son called us from fort lewis and told us to turn cnn on... yeah unfortunately we have a tv in the tt i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : cbhvacdenny

perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. i just got off the phone with my son at jax nas. he was waiting for his bus ride home for christmas. he told me the feeling all over jacksonville was about the same as your sons and even higher among his shipmates. he said to ask you to tell your son thanks for him. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : denny

cbhvac stephenaddressscfrewedonpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. but it sure makes ya feel old when youre playing with grandma!!! i know the feeling friend denny .

From : weener

i just got back from ft lewis. not a bad place at all! on sun 14 dec 2003 140208 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote we found out the same way mike... we were out camping and our son called us from fort lewis and told us to turn cnn on... yeah unfortunately we have a tv in the tt i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : mac davis

on mon 15 dec 2003 012432 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote cbhvac stephenaddressscfrewedonpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. but it sure makes ya feel old when youre playing with grandma!!! i know the feeling friend denny whose grandmother have you been playing with wabbit mac .

From : mac davis

on mon 15 dec 2003 032044 gmt weener boltaction@verizon.net wrote seemed nice when we visited except for all the damn rain... beats the hell out of iraq where he almost deployed to from ft lewis.. lot better than when he was in korea too easier for us to visit him.. lol i just got back from ft lewis. not a bad place at all! on sun 14 dec 2003 140208 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote we found out the same way mike... we were out camping and our son called us from fort lewis and told us to turn cnn on... yeah unfortunately we have a tv in the tt i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops mac .

From : jimbo

you know what i cant help but think about the average age of our troops there is around 19 years of age. can you just imagine a 19 year old with an m-16 in hand scooping up that bastard and making world history and not blowing his head off that young man or those young men acted with the professionalism that they have displayed throughout this war. what restraint........ gut sorry guys but it was us army at hand. they done real good. pcolaphil us army ret remove spamnot. for email pay americans first; repeal foreign aid!!! i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : yonzie

hey grandpops how about lending me your keys to that durango sure hope he comes home be a great christmas cbhvac stephenaddressscfrewedonpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. i just got off the phone with my son at jax nas. he was waiting for his bus ride home for christmas. he told me the feeling all over jacksonville was about the same as your sons and even higher among his shipmates. he said to ask you to tell your son thanks for him. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : budd cochran

its going to be a while but they may start cutting back on troop numbers soon. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ cbhvac stephenaddressscfrewedonpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. i just got off the phone with my son at jax nas. he was waiting for his bus ride home for christmas. he told me the feeling all over jacksonville was about the same as your sons and even higher among his shipmates. he said to ask you to tell your son thanks for him. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : fmb

its great that the coward was captured alive. i think by him standing trial more change will occur in that dry land... oh and mac how did the new trailer work out besides the tv part fmb only one b in fmb on sun 14 dec 2003 140208 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote we found out the same way mike... we were out camping and our son called us from fort lewis and told us to turn cnn on... yeah unfortunately we have a tv in the tt i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : mac davis

on mon 15 dec 2003 051907 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on mon 15 dec 2003 012432 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote cbhvac stephenaddressscfrewedonpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. but it sure makes ya feel old when youre playing with grandma!!! i know the feeling friend denny whose grandmother have you been playing with wabbit my grandkids denny ok... i was hoping/hopping that you were referring to mrs. rabbit but i wasnt sure.. *g* mac .

From : mac davis

on tue 16 dec 2003 032052 gmt fmb fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote snip my wife drove to avila beach and back this weekend... the ram seems really well matched to the trailer and she kept that 360 wound up pretty good... lol snip glad you like the trailer. it sure beats tents all to hell. it kinda releases your time to enjoy the outdoors. do you like to scare trout maybe well meet up in the spring and scare up some trout n beers. fmb nah.. gave up fishing years ago... learned to camp so i could fish for 2 days when i couldnt afford a motel... then over the years it sort of evolved more into camping than fishing... well get together and while you fish ill sit under the awning and drink beer by the fire.. *g* mac .

From : fmbmac davis

if you turn the lights off when the engine is running the lights go out. if you turn the lights off after you turn the engine off the lights stay on for 30 sec or so. if you rtom we wouldnt have had the pleasure of meeting you today. you chose a great truck although a ctd and laramie would have been nicer. enjoy it. any problems come on back. fmb only one b in fmb love my 03 ram 4x4 quad hemi. with dodge its always been the little things that are crappy ;^ my headlight switch is annoying. i have foglights. unless i turn the headlight dial slowly to off position when i get out of the truck my headlights are still on. not that im cranking it off super super fast but more like anyone would - normal speed. but normal speed somewho is too fast for the headlight switch to register the input. anyone else have this troublke is there a fix thanks todd in cincinnati .

From : daguy

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From : daguy

on tue 16 dec 2003 175344 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote but what does that have to do with what i said well tom/daguy it tells me if you have any knowledge of military ops other then the tripe the media feeds you concerning the capture and what is likely to happen. and you apparently have none. since you addressed that to me too i will respond. this has been discussed before over the years and your experience is well chronicled here. you had experience in the army as a cook although you have repeatedly said that you were trained to sneak behind enemy lines probably to salt their stew. when asked for proof you have said that you got riot training in the national guard. as i am quite familiar with riot training in the ng i embarrassed you already about that. hopefully you do not need to be embarrassed again dudd. so what would constitute military training in operations dudd i mean besides riot training in the ng or being a cook. as an aside i have extensive training in military ops dudd. so dont fuck this up being a cook must run in the old genes huh wont cut it. if anyone wonders what that hissing noise is during this thread it is the hot air escaping as dudd keeps pricking his fat ass with a needle of bull shit. .

From : mac davis

on mon 15 dec 2003 124142 gmt fmb fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote imho the footage of him grunged up and submitting to a tooth and lice check did a huge amount of good pr... especially in the arab world... the tt working great and were making less and less mistakes every time... i need to read the good sam dumb newbie things i did thread more... now if we could figure out how to unbend the awning after leaving it out over night in the rain.... weve had it and the ram since nov 1st and i think weve been out all but one weekend... its going to be fantastic once the weather warms up!! my wife drove to avila beach and back this weekend... the ram seems really well matched to the trailer and she kept that 360 wound up pretty good... lol its great that the coward was captured alive. i think by him standing trial more change will occur in that dry land... oh and mac how did the new trailer work out besides the tv part fmb only one b in fmb on sun 14 dec 2003 140208 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote we found out the same way mike... we were out camping and our son called us from fort lewis and told us to turn cnn on... yeah unfortunately we have a tv in the tt i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops mac .

From : im righttbone

www.bought4less.com buy a new cd stereo that plays cd-rs and sounds better than the dodge radio put the stock radio back at trade-in time. its a plug in installation even a webtv user could do. if i try to play copies of some audio cds in my dodge it takes 3-5 minutes for them to start playing. the player keeps searching for something. the originals play fine. any ideas .

From : tbone

they said the same thing after his sons were killed and that didnt happen. i bet that it is going to get much worse before it gets any better. first you will get the attacks from his followers to show that they are still able to attack and then you will bet attacks from assholes trying to replace him. it is not going to be pretty over there for quite some time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving its going to be a while but they may start cutting back on troop numbers soon. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ cbhvac stephenaddressscfrewedonpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. i just got off the phone with my son at jax nas. he was waiting for his bus ride home for christmas. he told me the feeling all over jacksonville was about the same as your sons and even higher among his shipmates. he said to ask you to tell your son thanks for him. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : budd cochrandaguy

im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ they said the same thing after his sons were killed and that didnt happen. i bet that it is going to get much worse before it gets any better. first you will get the attacks from his followers to show that they are still able to attack and then you will bet attacks from assholes trying to replace him. it is not going to be pretty over there for quite some time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving its going to be a while but they may start cutting back on troop numbers soon. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ cbhvac stephenaddressscfrewedonpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. i just got off the phone with my son at jax nas. he was waiting for his bus ride home for christmas. he told me the feeling all over jacksonville was about the same as your sons and even higher among his shipmates. he said to ask you to tell your son thanks for him. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : tbone

it was a valid question budd what difference does it make exactly what combat strategy and leadership experience do you have -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you matter how saddam wannabe -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. and from the text of his post that matters how .

From : budd cochran

i asked you first . . or should i as the reader of your words interpret them to mean youre sending me money -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ it was a valid question budd what difference does it make exactly what combat strategy and leadership experience do you have -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you matter how saddam wannabe -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. and from the text of his post that matters how .

From : daguy

on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. and from the text of his post that matters how .

From : budd cochran

and you matter how saddam wannabe -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. and from the text of his post that matters how .

From : gary glaenzer

it was a valid question budd what difference does it make exactly what combat strategy and leadership experience do you have you first.................. .

From : daguy

on mon 15 dec 2003 202402 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote and you matter how saddam wannabe whew! talk about refusing to answer a question and hiding behind a mask of anonymity in your case a mask of idiocy. .

From : daguytbone

on mon 15 dec 2003 154609 -0500 tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote it was a valid question budd what difference does it make exactly what combat strategy and leadership experience do you have oh no! you had to do it. now we are going to hear the stories about how he was trained to slip behind the enemy lines and slit the throats of his enemies. he was actually a cook. .

From : tbone

lol that is the only defense that he has. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on mon 15 dec 2003 202402 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote and you matter how saddam wannabe whew! talk about refusing to answer a question and hiding behind a mask of anonymity in your case a mask of idiocy. .

From : budd cochran

oops! missed ya but not on purpose.! hopefully he can be cycled back stateside soon. from the sound of things saddams followers are still trying to prove they are a force to reckon with but when the most recent captures find they face the same fate as saddam they may start talking like parrots. i wonder what happened to saddams claim of fighting to the last bullet or was he talking about our bullets -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ cbhvac stephenaddressscfrewedonpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in perhaps now my son in law can get home so he can meet his son...we just had 3 weeks with the little guy and he needs his dad..thats for sure... funny now that i dont mind being called granddad. i just got off the phone with my son at jax nas. he was waiting for his bus ride home for christmas. he told me the feeling all over jacksonville was about the same as your sons and even higher among his shipmates. he said to ask you to tell your son thanks for him. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .

From : budd cochran

open your mouth wider tom / daguy. you failed to get your other foot in. sorry budd but we are not the same person. thank you. now you have both feet in. it means a lot because you have no idea how the capture took place other than what you were told by the media. could you spin any further from the facts. what difference does that make in what is going to happen over there in the future. face it little man if you are even a man anymore you are wrong. now face up to it like the christian that you claim to be. it makes a lot of difference when you or a close family member is in the combat zone but you wouldnt understand because you have no basis on which to understand. i on the other hand have had direct instruction in those tactics by the military. but what does that have to do with what i said well tom/daguy it tells me if you have any knowledge of military ops other then the tripe the media feeds you concerning the capture and what is likely to happen. and you apparently have none. i cannot tell how exactly it was done because i am an idiot and there are several methods that could have been used and i wont revalk any because we are still fighting over there and the internet much like my diaper is not secure and full of shit. iow you are once again caught with your pants down and have nothing valid to say. and here you go re-writing my words again. its a pity you cant handle the conversation without resorting to such extremely childish actions. its war tom/daguy not a garden party. and this has to do with what i guess that what hitler did to the jews was ok because they were at war right there you go with your incorrect interpretations again. again you interpret in error. unlike you i dont write without meaning so anyone can give my words any meaning they want. sure you do. but if not explain the purpose of bombing an empty building. now this demonstrates your lack of military training. but my reason in this case is to move the un out of america. removing an empty building would make it easier to rebuild the area for better use like a city park or garbage dump. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ .

From : budd cochran

you really need to learn how to read and not distort things in your twisted little liberal mind tell us how with your propensity to make wrongful interpretations and lack of military operations training you could listen to anyone describing the action as it actually happened and make any real sense of it. its easier to understand the discussion and agree or disagree amiably if both parties can source from a common point of reference in this case military training. if one party has no understanding of the others view then discussions are handicapped from the start. fortunately i do understand you limited and bigoted viewpoint and i just dont want to discuss the subject with you for that reason. after all a discussion with you is an exercise in observing corrupted semantics and sorting thru bigoted hyperbole usually resulting in nothing being settled . . unless of course you determine through some twist of your devious interpretations that you have won and thusly assuaged your tormented ego. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ what argument would that be budd. mac agrees with me and now you say that you agree with him. that would make the loser here you!!! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you always get like this when you refuse to admit you lost an argument you know. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ lol that is the only defense that he has. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on mon 15 dec 2003 202402 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote and you matter how saddam wannabe whew! talk about refusing to answer a question and hiding behind a mask of anonymity in your case a mask of idiocy. .

From : budd cochran

i did and you refused the truth. you never gave any and if so then cut and paste it here for me to see. gee tom/daguy didnt you read it the first time lol you are the one with the view everything is subject to interpretation to corrupting to suit ones needs. i write with inteneded meanings only. just more spin. i never said that you did. since most words have multiple meanings they have to be interpreted nothing more nothing less. while you may write with intended meanings as most do that does not mean that they will be understood interpreted exactly the way you intended. perhaps that is why your writing career failed. no spin on my part just you trying to explain your way out of your hole again. tell me how making a factual statement can be interpreted differently when the facts upon which the statement is made are obvious and well known. for example tom /daguy spins words and their meanings and will shamelessly rewrite the posts of others to corrupt meanings to suit his purpose which is to cause dissention. what part of that sentence is subject to interpretation when its based on things you have posted rewritten and done and have been observable by anyone choseing to read them i did and youre still wrong. keep dreaming. a good author does and i will. im just applying the rules of interpretation you employ. no you didnt. my rules fall within the many meanings that most words have. you are just spinning out of control again. aha! now you decide there are limits to the interpretations. be careful backpedaling so hard youre likely to back into the truth by accident. how odd it is that in the past youve rewritten peoples words and stepped far from these suddenly claimed limitations to the definitions though you still have the definition of definition wrong and now that youve been caught you whine about being mis-interpreted. you lying sniveling coward. youre the one that stated an absolute word btw that every word spoken or written is subject to interpretation by the reader regardless of the writer or speakers intended meaning. now you dont want to play by those rules. now you are just lying. regardless of the writers / speakers intent the reader / audience may still interpret it incorrectly. it has happened many times and will continue to do so. hell sarcasm is based on the multiple interpretations of sentences and words idiot. well tom/daguy we just found out you have no knowledge of humor either. sarcasm is based on a deliberate ironic twist. youre confusing it with the pun. no matter what you claim it is the responsibility of the author to convey his intended meaning. otherwise you just turned all the classic authors of every grenre in to mere graffiti compilers. is that what dickens is to you or tolstoy or burns or asimov careful isaac is the one that developed the formulas for geosynchronous orbits. or mccaffery or cussler or how about matthew mark luke john and paul its been posted look it up. whats the matter embarrassed to say just following the example you have used when asked direct questions like what college did you attend what courses did you study iow i have no proof and am just interpreting what you say as liberal media drivel. thank you for inserting your third foot. oh yea thats right you drove a latrine evacuation vehicle or in your case an old golf cart with a bucket in back and a long straw. but my question still stands and was also asked by both mac and daguy what does this have to do with what i said about our continuing military efforts i guess that it sucks to be you now. answered in another reply. youre wrong again in your interpretation of my sentences. . .actually questions. no im not. you interpreted 4 different possible meanings and voiced them as questions. as usual they were all wrong but i expected nothing less. wrong still. i asked them to seek out your intended meaning but you havent supplied one so you must not have a meaning. btw none of the questions were sarcastic. but thanks for the answer if that is what you meant for it to be. since you have no use for any traditional grammar then no one can be sure what you mean . . what does grammer have to do with anything ah yes. you dont intend to follow the rules established for correct english just you own set of corruptions. btw correct grammar can incrase the readability and the understanding of a sentence. doyounotagreethisispossiblesinceyouusegrammarwhenyouwritebutobviouslyyoudon tknowwhatitis -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ .

From : daguy

on tue 16 dec 2003 180746 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote you really need to learn how to read and not distort things in your twisted little liberal mind nice dudd. argue facts huh dont get into name calling huh twisted little liberal mind. and you say that tbone is directed by the media. you have listened to much rush man. btw you could buy some meds from him. tell us how with your propensity to make wrongful interpretations and lack of military operations training you could listen to anyone describing the action as it actually happened and make any real sense of it. what wrongful interpretations what does that mean again it appears from your refusal to give your military training in military operations that you suffer the same ignorance. its easier to understand the discussion and agree or disagree amiably if both parties can source from a common point of reference in this case military training. oh puke. now we are back to riot training in the national guard. what a bag of gas. if one party has no understanding of the others view true but then very few minds have faced the senility of yours. that makes is hard to be your level. too much of a drop. then discussions are handicapped from the start. fortunately i do understand you limited and bigoted viewpoint bigotry is something that you and some others share in common. never seen that from tbone. and i just dont want to discuss the subject with you for that reason. no the reason is that you will just shit all over yourself once again. after all a discussion with you is an exercise in observing corrupted semantics and sorting thru bigoted hyperbole usually resulting in nothing being settled . . unless of course you determine through some twist of your devious interpretations that you have won and thusly assuaged your tormented ego. dribble. no meaning in that little excersize. going down fast dudd. .

From : daguy

on tue 16 dec 2003 184256 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote no you didnt. my rules fall within the many meanings that most words have. you are just spinning out of control again. aha! now you decide there are limits to the interpretations. be careful backpedaling so hard youre likely to back into the truth by accident. how odd it is that in the past youve rewritten peoples words and stepped far from these suddenly claimed limitations to the definitions though you still have the definition of definition wrong and now that youve been caught you whine about being mis-interpreted. you lying sniveling coward. you lying sniveling coward you are losing badly dudd. that is too funny. not getting to you is he .

From : tbone

you really need to learn how to read and not distort things in your twisted little liberal mind i did read it budd. i said that i didnt agree with your thoughts and instead of defending them with reason and fact you just resorted to your typical bs spin attacks. the problem here is that you really dont have much more training than i do. you were in the national guard as a truck driver big deal. iirc the army would not let you in and with the way you act i can see why. then on top of that someone who is respected in the group and has actual combat experience agrees with my thoughts. hell just look at what is going on in the world and in afghanistan with the resurgence of the taliban and it is clear what is more likely to happen. i hope that nothing bad happens to your son but the risk is going to go up from here at least for a while and it will be longer than you think. when he said that he agreed with my thoughts there you claimed to also agree which makes you initially wrong. if you are now saying that you dont actually agree and were just kissing up i will go with the smarter person and that is not you. tell us how with your propensity to make wrongful interpretations and lack of military operations training you could listen to anyone describing the action as it actually happened and make any real sense of it. yet more false and unsubstantiated accusations imagine that. talk about a little mind. what do the actions of how he was captured have anything to do with how the people are going to react. hell he probably wants to get back so that his people can start a revolution and free him. its easier to understand the discussion and agree or disagree amiably if both parties can source from a common point of reference in this case military training. military training has nothing to do with it. this is sociology and peoples beliefs here not military operations. if one party has no understanding of the others view then discussions are handicapped from the start. fortunately i do understand you limited and bigoted viewpoint and i just dont want to discuss the subject with you for that reason. the only one with a limited and bigoted viewpoint here is you. after all a discussion with you is an exercise in observing corrupted semantics and sorting thru bigoted hyperbole usually resulting in nothing being settled . . unless of course you determine through some twist of your devious interpretations that you have won and thusly assuaged your tormented ego. how is that someone who you consider a friend for the moment agrees with me and you are still not man enough to just drop it. instead you resort to your childish attacks. it seems that the only tormented ego here that needs to be soothed is yours. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

i did and you refused the truth. you never gave any and if so then cut and paste it here for me to see. gee tom/daguy didnt you read it the first time iow you never did post it and are now trying to spin out of it. lol you are the one with the view everything is subject to interpretation to corrupting to suit ones needs. i write with inteneded meanings only. just more spin. i never said that you did. since most words have multiple meanings they have to be interpreted nothing more nothing less. while you may write with intended meanings as most do that does not mean that they will be understood interpreted exactly the way you intended. perhaps that is why your writing career failed. no spin on my part lol more like nuthin but spin on your part. just you trying to explain your way out of your hole again. what hole would that be tell me how making a factual statement can be interpreted differently when the facts upon which the statement is made are obvious and well known. well first of all obvious and well known to who just because you believe it to be does not make it so. for example tom /daguy spins words and their meanings and will shamelessly rewrite the posts of others to corrupt meanings to suit his purpose which is to cause dissention. you spin far more in a single post than me and daguy do combined in a month. as for rewriting your posts lol. i edited one statement for nothing more than adding humor which was desperately needed and made it obvious that you didnt really do it get over it. what part of that sentence is subject to interpretation when its based on things you have posted rewritten and done and have been observable by anyone choseing to read them every sentence ever written is subject to interpretation do you not understand this yet. if what you believe were true there would be only one language and there would be no such thing as scarcasm puns slang or loopholes. i did and youre still wrong. keep dreaming. a good author does and i will. well at least you kept a good author and yourself seperated. im just applying the rules of interpretation you employ. no you didnt. my rules fall within the many meanings that most words have. you are just spinning out of control again. aha! now you decide there are limits to the interpretations. i never said different you did with your thinly veiled begging for money. be careful backpedaling so hard youre likely to back into the truth by accident. you do that all the time and then stomp it completely into the ground and deny doing it. how odd it is that in the past youve rewritten peoples words lol yea right. and stepped far from these suddenly claimed limitations to the definitions though you still have the definition of definition wrong and now that youve been caught you whine about being mis-interpreted. sorry budd but the only one stretching here is you but then again it is the only way that you can come up with any argument at all. you lying sniveling coward. back to name calling again i see. youre the one that stated an absolute word btw that every word spoken or written is subject to interpretation by the reader regardless of the writer or speakers intended meaning. now you dont want to play by those rules. now you are just lying. regardless of the writers / speakers intent the reader / audience may still interpret it incorrectly. it has happened many times and will continue to do so. hell sarcasm is based on the multiple interpretations of sentences and words idiot. well tom/daguy we just found out you have no knowledge of humor either. sarcasm is based on a deliberate ironic twist. and what is a deliberate ironic twist dimwit. it looks like an intended misleading meaning to a statement. youre confusing it with the pun. yes a pun yet another use of the multiple meanings of words and sentences. thanks budd. no matter what you claim it is the responsibility of the author to convey his intended meaning. and you just gave it away again. the fact that the author has a responsibility to convey his intended meaning clearly shows that sentences need to be interpreted and if not written properly will be interpreted incorrectly. thanks again budd - or how about matthew mark luke john and paul funny that you should mention them perhaps you havent been watching the televangelists on tv and what they have saying the apostles saying like give me all of your money to get riches beyond your wildest dreams lol. its all a matter of interpretation there budd. its been posted look it up. whats the matter embarrassed to say just following the example you have used when asked direct questions like what college did you attend what courses did you study what does that now or ever had to do with any points that we were arguing. you are cl

From : tbone

open your mouth wider tom / daguy. you failed to get your other foot in. sorry budd but we are not the same person. thank you. now you have both feet in. lol what a dimwit. it means a lot because you have no idea how the capture took place other than what you were told by the media. could you spin any further from the facts. what difference does that make in what is going to happen over there in the future. face it little man if you are even a man anymore you are wrong. now face up to it like the christian that you claim to be. it makes a lot of difference when you or a close family member is in the combat zone but you wouldnt understand because you have no basis on which to understand. while i can see that giving you wishful thinking that doesnt make the reality of the situation any different. i on the other hand have had direct instruction in those tactics by the military. but what does that have to do with what i said well tom/daguy it tells me if you have any knowledge of military ops other then the tripe the media feeds you concerning the capture and what is likely to happen. and you apparently have none. what does military training have to do with this this is based on sociology and the beliefs of the people. i cannot tell how exactly it was done because i am an idiot and there are several methods that could have been used and i wont revalk any because we are still fighting over there and the internet much like my diaper is not secure and full of shit. iow you are once again caught with your pants down and have nothing valid to say. and here you go re-writing my words again. its a pity you cant handle the conversation without resorting to such extremely childish actions. it is a pity that you cant see simple humor. the best part is that the meaning of the sentence was unchanged just made clearer. its war tom/daguy not a garden party. and this has to do with what i guess that what hitler did to the jews was ok because they were at war right there you go with your incorrect interpretations again. how and in what way is that just because you think that it is ok to treat specific prisoners worse than others. if so then who made you god. again you interpret in error. unlike you i dont write without meaning so anyone can give my words any meaning they want. sure you do. but if not explain the purpose of bombing an empty building. now this demonstrates your lack of military training. lol. no i knew that it was because you hate the un and want it gone. the problem is that it would still very much exist. but my reason in this case is to move the un out of america. removing an empty building would make it easier to rebuild the area for better use like a city park or garbage dump. no that shows your lack of military training. if some terrorists bomb the un building and we dont immediately rebuild it then they have one and that encourages others to do the same. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

since just about every word has more than one meaning all sentences have to be interpreted. that is part of what comprehension something that you dont have is all about. your continuing on this line just shows how childish and ignorant you actually are. but what i do interpret from your sentences is that you are in need of money and getting fairly desperate to have ask me for some of mine. as for the military experience i already said that i was not in the military and ill ask you again what tactical or combat leadership do you have and in what way does it make what you said any more valid then what i did i have current history backing me. what do you have -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i asked you first . . or should i as the reader of your words interpret them to mean youre sending me money -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ it was a valid question budd what difference does it make exactly what combat strategy and leadership experience do you have -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you matter how saddam wannabe -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. and from the text of his post that matters how .

From : budd cochran

on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. as someone that does have military experience budd i think tbone is right and i cant see how time in the service can effect that... agreed but i dont think tom has the understanding of military procedures he thinks he does. he only has what his idols the liberal media feed him. were better off getting him alive so hes not a martyr but his followers will not just stop because hes out of action... agreed and he should be escorted to a place of isolation and deeply interrogated. a few truth serums such as he liked to use would be acceptable. what im waiting for now is the terrorist threats to hand him over or else you fill in the blanks dies.... i believe the threats will come but i suggest the un building as a target empty of course. mac -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ .

From : tbone

on mon 15 dec 2003 154609 -0500 tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote it was a valid question budd what difference does it make exactly what combat strategy and leadership experience do you have oh no! you had to do it. now we are going to hear the stories about how he was trained to slip behind the enemy lines and slit the throats of his enemies. he was actually a cook. na that would require at least some skills. i heard that he got confused with his experience on the titanic and dressed in drag to get out of being drafted and wound up becoming a wac. .

From : tbone

on tue 16 dec 2003 180746 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote you really need to learn how to read and not distort things in your twisted little liberal mind nice dudd. argue facts huh dont get into name calling huh twisted little liberal mind. and you say that tbone is directed by the media. you have listened to much rush man. btw you could buy some meds from him. buy from him hell with all of the meds that he must be on to act this way he is probably one of rushs suppliers. tell us how with your propensity to make wrongful interpretations and lack of military operations training you could listen to anyone describing the action as it actually happened and make any real sense of it. what wrongful interpretations what does that mean again it appears from your refusal to give your military training in military operations that you suffer the same ignorance. its easier to understand the discussion and agree or disagree amiably if both parties can source from a common point of reference in this case military training. oh puke. now we are back to riot training in the national guard. what a bag of gas. if one party has no understanding of the others view true but then very few minds have faced the senility of yours. that makes is hard to be your level. too much of a drop. perhaps that is why he is saying that i need a parachute he is concerned that the fall in intelligence i would need to make to be on his level could kill me. see budd is a caring kind of guy after all. then discussions are handicapped from the start. fortunately i do understand you limited and bigoted viewpoint bigotry is something that you and some others share in common. never seen that from tbone. and i just dont want to discuss the subject with you for that reason. no the reason is that you will just shit all over yourself once again. after all a discussion with you is an exercise in observing corrupted semantics and sorting thru bigoted hyperbole usually resulting in nothing being settled . . unless of course you determine through some twist of your devious interpretations that you have won and thusly assuaged your tormented ego. dribble. no meaning in that little excersize. going down fast dudd. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : fmb

on tue 16 dec 2003 032052 gmt fmb fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote snip my wife drove to avila beach and back this weekend... the ram seems really well matched to the trailer and she kept that 360 wound up pretty good... lol snip glad you like the trailer. it sure beats tents all to hell. it kinda releases your time to enjoy the outdoors. do you like to scare trout maybe well meet up in the spring and scare up some trout n beers. fmb nah.. gave up fishing years ago... learned to camp so i could fish for 2 days when i couldnt afford a motel... then over the years it sort of evolved more into camping than fishing... well get together and while you fish ill sit under the awning and drink beer by the fire.. *g* mac deal fmb .

From : mac davis

on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. as someone that does have military experience budd i think tbone is right and i cant see how time in the service can effect that... were better off getting him alive so hes not a martyr but his followers will not just stop because hes out of action... what im waiting for now is the terrorist threats to hand him over or else you fill in the blanks dies.... mac .

From : tbone

since just about every word has more than one meaning all sentences have to be interpreted. that is part of what comprehension something that you dont have is all about. your jokes arent getting any better and your truth is just plain stupid. really then come up with a valid argument against it ill wait. your continuing on this line just shows how childish and ignorant you actually are. nope just hoping to educate you in the fine points of language. no youre not. you are just upset that you are wrong once again and are now desperatly trying to spin your way out of it. but i can see that if you had to stick to the truth you would be as powerless as your word spinning. the only one spinning here is you and if what you say is true there would be no way to spin anything. perhaps you had better review the meanings of the word absolute! but what i do interpret from your sentences is that you are in need of money and getting fairly desperate to have ask me for some of mine. see i told you you cannot interpret any words or sentences as you want. i just interpreted according to your false set of rules and you come to a erroneous conclusion about what i interpreted. iow youre wrong again. oh really then why do you keep taking about me giving you money when no form of currency of objects of value was ever mentioned as for the military experience i already said that i was not in the military and ill ask you again what tactical or combat leadership do you have and in what way does it make what you said any more valid then what i did i have current history backing me. what do you have an understanding of and training in military ops that you do not have w h e r e since most of your info comes from your idols the liberal media. and you know this how its the advantage of having had military training you see. what training i want specifics and where were you deployed and in what form of combat but how should i interpret your sentence about not having military experience are you physically impaired mentally impaired too self-important to serve in the military or just chicken despite your petty insults you just made 4 interpretations of a simple sentence. we were not in any war when i graduated high school and they had nothing to offer that i wanted or could even use i did look so i went to college instead. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

since just about every word has more than one meaning all sentences have to be interpreted. that is part of what comprehension something that you dont have is all about. your jokes arent getting any better and your truth is just plain stupid. your continuing on this line just shows how childish and ignorant you actually are. nope just hoping to educate you in the fine points of language. but i can see that if you had to stick to the truth you would be as powerless as your word spinning. but what i do interpret from your sentences is that you are in need of money and getting fairly desperate to have ask me for some of mine. see i told you you cannot interpret any words or sentences as you want. i just interpreted according to your false set of rules and you come to a erroneous conclusion about what i interpreted. iow youre wrong again. as for the military experience i already said that i was not in the military and ill ask you again what tactical or combat leadership do you have and in what way does it make what you said any more valid then what i did i have current history backing me. what do you have an understanding of and training in military ops that you do not have since most of your info comes from your idols the liberal media. its the advantage of having had military training you see. but how should i interpret your sentence about not having military experience are you physically impaired mentally impaired too self-important to serve in the military or just chicken -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ .

From : tbone

on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. as someone that does have military experience budd i think tbone is right and i cant see how time in the service can effect that... agreed but i dont think tom has the understanding of military procedures he thinks he does. he only has what his idols the liberal media feed him. what a load of shit. what does my understanding or lack of such about military procedures have to do with anything. face it budd your were caught in one of your childish acts and not man enough to admit it. were better off getting him alive so hes not a martyr but his followers will not just stop because hes out of action... agreed and he should be escorted to a place of isolation and deeply interrogated. a few truth serums such as he liked to use would be acceptable. while i agree how does doing that make us any better than he is. what im waiting for now is the terrorist threats to hand him over or else you fill in the blanks dies.... i believe the threats will come but i suggest the un building as a target empty of course. i doubt that you mean empty. an empty building is just a building so what would be the point. we all know exactly what you mean some christian you are. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochranfmb

you always get like this when you refuse to admit you lost an argument you know. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ lol that is the only defense that he has. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on mon 15 dec 2003 202402 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote and you matter how saddam wannabe whew! talk about refusing to answer a question and hiding behind a mask of anonymity in your case a mask of idiocy. .

From : fmb

on mon 15 dec 2003 124142 gmt fmb fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote imho the footage of him grunged up and submitting to a tooth and lice check did a huge amount of good pr... especially in the arab world... i agree... the tt working great and were making less and less mistakes every time... i need to read the good sam dumb newbie things i did thread more... now if we could figure out how to unbend the awning after leaving it out over night in the rain.... weve had it and the ram since nov 1st and i think weve been out all but one weekend... its going to be fantastic once the weather warms up!! my wife drove to avila beach and back this weekend... the ram seems really well matched to the trailer and she kept that 360 wound up pretty good... lol snip glad you like the trailer. it sure beats tents all to hell. it kinda releases your time to enjoy the outdoors. do you like to scare trout maybe well meet up in the spring and scare up some trout n beers. fmb .

From : daguy

on tue 16 dec 2003 032058 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote you always get like this when you refuse to admit you lost an argument you know. see there you go again. what argument was i in dudd what argument did i lose dudd while we are at it what did we bet .

From : daguydaguy

on tue 16 dec 2003 030810 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. as someone that does have military experience budd i think tbone is right and i cant see how time in the service can effect that... agreed but i dont think tom has the understanding of military procedures he thinks he does. he only has what his idols the liberal media feed him. what military procedures would those be dudd lets talk about them. lets see if the cook really knows what he is talking about. come on dudd what procedures are you talking about. were better off getting him alive so hes not a martyr but his followers will not just stop because hes out of action... agreed and he should be escorted to a place of isolation and deeply interrogated. a few truth serums such as he liked to use would be acceptable. what im waiting for now is the terrorist threats to hand him over or else you fill in the blanks dies.... i believe the threats will come but i suggest the un building as a target empty of course. mac .

From : tbone

what argument would that be budd. mac agrees with me and now you say that you agree with him. that would make the loser here you!!! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you always get like this when you refuse to admit you lost an argument you know. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ lol that is the only defense that he has. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on mon 15 dec 2003 202402 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote and you matter how saddam wannabe whew! talk about refusing to answer a question and hiding behind a mask of anonymity in your case a mask of idiocy. .

From : tbone

i think that he was whining about me again. he really hates it when a group regular actually agrees with me over him. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on tue 16 dec 2003 032058 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote you always get like this when you refuse to admit you lost an argument you know. see there you go again. what argument was i in dudd what argument did i lose dudd while we are at it what did we bet .

From : budd cochran

does this post mean you are toms alter ego your response to my post implies it. i wouldnt be surprised if you were since you both share so many unsociable traits. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ on tue 16 dec 2003 032058 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote you always get like this when you refuse to admit you lost an argument you know. see there you go again. what argument was i in dudd what argument did i lose dudd while we are at it what did we bet .

From : tbone

probably most colors will peel. my white 94 is looking shabby as hell even though i always put paint preservative on it when cleaning. peeling is pretty much all over. -- pcolaphil remove spamnot. for email pay americans first; repeal foreign aid!!! | im thinking of buying a new or used pickup 1995 -2003 . which colors are | bad for peeling paint | i had a 1990 dodge dakota dark blue and silver it peeled 10 months down the | road and all the dealer would say | the paint was peeling do to stone chips. boy there must be stones falling | from the skies. as the paint was peeling all around the truck. the dealer | would never make it right! so please tell which colors seem not to peel! | thanks for the help! bob .

From : budd cochran

since just about every word has more than one meaning all sentences have to be interpreted. that is part of what comprehension something that you dont have is all about. your jokes arent getting any better and your truth is just plain stupid. really then come up with a valid argument against it ill wait. i did and you refused the truth. your continuing on this line just shows how childish and ignorant you actually are. nope just hoping to educate you in the fine points of language. no youre not. you are just upset that you are wrong once again and are now desperatly trying to spin your way out of it. lol you are the one with the view everything is subject to interpretation to corrupting to suit ones needs. i write with inteneded meanings only. but i can see that if you had to stick to the truth you would be as powerless as your word spinning. the only one spinning here is you and if what you say is true there would be no way to spin anything. perhaps you had better review the meanings of the word absolute! i did and youre still wrong. but what i do interpret from your sentences is that you are in need of money and getting fairly desperate to have ask me for some of mine. see i told you you cannot interpret any words or sentences as you want. i just interpreted according to your false set of rules and you come to a erroneous conclusion about what i interpreted. iow youre wrong again. oh really then why do you keep taking about me giving you money when no form of currency of objects of value was ever mentioned im just applying the rules of interpretation you employ. youre the one that stated an absolute word btw that every word spoken or written is subject to interpretation by the reader regardless of the writer or speakers intended meaning. now you dont want to play by those rules. as for the military experience i already said that i was not in the military and ill ask you again what tactical or combat leadership do you have and in what way does it make what you said any more valid then what i did i have current history backing me. what do you have an understanding of and training in military ops that you do not have w h e r e its been posted look it up. since most of your info comes from your idols the liberal media. and you know this how lol all one has to do is read your pathetic drivel and see how it matches the liberal medias drivel. its the advantage of having had military training you see. what training i want specifics and where were you deployed and in what form of combat its been posted. but how should i interpret your sentence about not having military experience are you physically impaired mentally impaired too self-important to serve in the military or just chicken despite your petty insults you just made 4 interpretations of a simple sentence. we were not in any war when i graduated high school and they had nothing to offer that i wanted or could even use i did look so i went to college instead. youre wrong again in your interpretation of my sentences. . .actually questions. but thanks for the answer if that is what you meant for it to be. since you have no use for any traditional grammar then no one can be sure what you mean . . -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you really need to get a parachute. . . -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ .

From : budd cochran

on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. as someone that does have military experience budd i think tbone is right and i cant see how time in the service can effect that... agreed but i dont think tom has the understanding of military procedures he thinks he does. he only has what his idols the liberal media feed him. what a load of shit. what does my understanding or lack of such about military procedures have to do with anything. face it budd your were caught in one of your childish acts and not man enough to admit it. open your mouth wider tom / daguy. you failed to get your other foot in. it means a lot because you have no idea how the capture took place other than what you were told by the media. i on the other hand have had direct instruction in those tactics by the military. i cannot tell how exactly it was done because there are several methods that could have been used and i wont revalk any because we are still fighting over there and the internet is not secure. were better off getting him alive so hes not a martyr but his followers will not just stop because hes out of action... agreed and he should be escorted to a place of isolation and deeply interrogated. a few truth serums such as he liked to use would be acceptable. while i agree how does doing that make us any better than he is. its war tom/daguy not a garden party. what im waiting for now is the terrorist threats to hand him over or else you fill in the blanks dies.... i believe the threats will come but i suggest the un building as a target empty of course. i doubt that you mean empty. an empty building is just a building so what would be the point. we all know exactly what you mean some christian you are. again you interpret in error. unlike you i dont write without meaning so anyone can give my words any meaning they want. i say what i mean tom/daguy. i said empty and i meant empty. i doubt anyone else had the trouble understanding me that your interpretation caused you to have. your system must be wrong -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving splut!!!!! you landed on something soft that time your head. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ .

From : tbone

since just about every word has more than one meaning all sentences have to be interpreted. that is part of what comprehension something that you dont have is all about. your jokes arent getting any better and your truth is just plain stupid. really then come up with a valid argument against it ill wait. i did and you refused the truth. you never gave any and if so then cut and paste it here for me to see. your continuing on this line just shows how childish and ignorant you actually are. nope just hoping to educate you in the fine points of language. no youre not. you are just upset that you are wrong once again and are now desperatly trying to spin your way out of it. lol you are the one with the view everything is subject to interpretation to corrupting to suit ones needs. i write with inteneded meanings only. just more spin. i never said that you did. since most words have multiple meanings they have to be interpreted nothing more nothing less. while you may write with intended meanings as most do that does not mean that they will be understood interpreted exactly the way you intended. perhaps that is why your writing career failed. but i can see that if you had to stick to the truth you would be as powerless as your word spinning. the only one spinning here is you and if what you say is true there would be no way to spin anything. perhaps you had better review the meanings of the word absolute! i did and youre still wrong. keep dreaming. but what i do interpret from your sentences is that you are in need of money and getting fairly desperate to have ask me for some of mine. see i told you you cannot interpret any words or sentences as you want. i just interpreted according to your false set of rules and you come to a erroneous conclusion about what i interpreted. iow youre wrong again. oh really then why do you keep taking about me giving you money when no form of currency of objects of value was ever mentioned im just applying the rules of interpretation you employ. no you didnt. my rules fall within the many meanings that most words have. you are just spinning out of control again. youre the one that stated an absolute word btw that every word spoken or written is subject to interpretation by the reader regardless of the writer or speakers intended meaning. now you dont want to play by those rules. now you are just lying. regardless of the writers / speakers intent the reader / audience may still interpret it incorrectly. it has happened many times and will continue to do so. hell sarcasm is based on the multiple interpretations of sentences and words idiot. as for the military experience i already said that i was not in the military and ill ask you again what tactical or combat leadership do you have and in what way does it make what you said any more valid then what i did i have current history backing me. what do you have an understanding of and training in military ops that you do not have w h e r e its been posted look it up. whats the matter embarrassed to say since most of your info comes from your idols the liberal media. and you know this how lol all one has to do is read your pathetic drivel and see how it matches the liberal medias drivel. iow i have no proof and am just interpreting what you say as liberal media drivel. its the advantage of having had military training you see. what training i want specifics and where were you deployed and in what form of combat its been posted. oh yea thats right you drove a latrine evacuation vehicle or in your case an old golf cart with a bucket in back and a long straw. but my question still stands and was also asked by both mac and daguy what does this have to do with what i said about our continuing military efforts i guess that it sucks to be you now. but how should i interpret your sentence about not having military experience are you physically impaired mentally impaired too self-important to serve in the military or just chicken despite your petty insults you just made 4 interpretations of a simple sentence. we were not in any war when i graduated high school and they had nothing to offer that i wanted or could even use i did look so i went to college instead. youre wrong again in your interpretation of my sentences. . .actually questions. no im not. you interpreted 4 different possible meanings and voiced them as questions. as usual they were all wrong but i expected nothing less. but thanks for the answer if that is what you meant for it to be. since you have no use for any traditional grammar then no one can be sure what you mean . . what does grammer have to do with anything -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you really need to get a parachute. . . for you i would

From : daguy

on tue 16 dec 2003 041917 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote does this post mean you are toms alter ego your response to my post implies it. i wouldnt be surprised if you were since you both share so many unsociable traits. unsociable traits. bwwwaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa you are sooo stupid. .

From : tbone

on mon 15 dec 2003 175715 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote im trying to remember if you have any military experience. from your post i dont think so. as someone that does have military experience budd i think tbone is right and i cant see how time in the service can effect that... agreed but i dont think tom has the understanding of military procedures he thinks he does. he only has what his idols the liberal media feed him. what a load of shit. what does my understanding or lack of such about military procedures have to do with anything. face it budd your were caught in one of your childish acts and not man enough to admit it. open your mouth wider tom / daguy. you failed to get your other foot in. sorry budd but we are not the same person. it means a lot because you have no idea how the capture took place other than what you were told by the media. could you spin any further from the facts. what difference does that make in what is going to happen over there in the future. face it little man if you are even a man anymore you are wrong. now face up to it like the christian that you claim to be. i on the other hand have had direct instruction in those tactics by the military. well i can see with your latrine duty that you would be properly instructed on how to climb into a hole that is full of shit but what does that have to do with what i said i cannot tell how exactly it was done because i am an idiot and there are several methods that could have been used and i wont revalk any because we are still fighting over there and the internet much like my diaper is not secure and full of shit. iow you are once again caught with your pants down and have nothing valid to say. were better off getting him alive so hes not a martyr but his followers will not just stop because hes out of action... agreed and he should be escorted to a place of isolation and deeply interrogated. a few truth serums such as he liked to use would be acceptable. while i agree how does doing that make us any better than he is. its war tom/daguy not a garden party. and this has to do with what i guess that what hitler did to the jews was ok because they were at war right what im waiting for now is the terrorist threats to hand him over or else you fill in the blanks dies.... i believe the threats will come but i suggest the un building as a target empty of course. i doubt that you mean empty. an empty building is just a building so what would be the point. we all know exactly what you mean some christian you are. again you interpret in error. unlike you i dont write without meaning so anyone can give my words any meaning they want. sure you do. but if not explain the purpose of bombing an empty building. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving splut!!!!! you landed on something soft that time your head. hey that one was kinda funny. who emailed that one to you -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : ken s

buy from him hell with all of the meds that he must be on to act this way he is probably one of rushs suppliers. not likely... i understand rush went through rehabilitation treatment and has an accountability group to help him stay off of the painkillers he was addicted to. hopefully he stays clean. ken on tue 16 dec 2003 180746 gmt budd cochran mr-d150spam@citlink.net wrote you really need to learn how to read and not distort things in your twisted little liberal mind nice dudd. argue facts huh dont get into name calling huh twisted little liberal mind. and you say that tbone is directed by the media. you have listened to much rush man. btw you could buy some meds from him. buy from him hell with all of the meds that he must be on to act this way he is probably one of rushs suppliers. tell us how with your propensity to make wrongful interpretations and lack of military operations training you could listen to anyone describing the action as it actually happened and make any real sense of it. what wrongful interpretations what does that mean again it appears from your refusal to give your military training in military operations that you suffer the same ignorance. its easier to understand the discussion and agree or disagree amiably if both parties can source from a common point of reference in this case military training. oh puke. now we are back to riot training in the national guard. what a bag of gas. if one party has no understanding of the others view true but then very few minds have faced the senility of yours. that makes is hard to be your level. too much of a drop. perhaps that is why he is saying that i need a parachute he is concerned that the fall in intelligence i would need to make to be on his level could kill me. see budd is a caring kind of guy after all. then discussions are handicapped from the start. fortunately i do understand you limited and bigoted viewpoint bigotry is something that you and some others share in common. never seen that from tbone. and i just dont want to discuss the subject with you for that reason. no the reason is that you will just shit all over yourself once again. after all a discussion with you is an exercise in observing corrupted semantics and sorting thru bigoted hyperbole usually resulting in nothing being settled . . unless of course you determine through some twist of your devious interpretations that you have won and thusly assuaged your tormented ego. dribble. no meaning in that little excersize. going down fast dudd. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : twix

lol you said it. i like the soldiers reply president bush sends his regards. one of my employees was recalled back into the 101st. they teach them boys right. thats for sure. on mon 15 dec 2003 051611 gmt jimbo noze4@earthlink.net wrote you know what i cant help but think about the average age of our troops there is around 19 years of age. can you just imagine a 19 year old with an m-16 in hand scooping up that bastard and making world history and not blowing his head off that young man or those young men acted with the professionalism that they have displayed throughout this war. what restraint........ gut sorry guys but it was us army at hand. they done real good. pcolaphil us army ret remove spamnot. for email pay americans first; repeal foreign aid!!! i talked with mike jr. early this am at camp lejuene about the bastards capture. needless to say he was elated. he and all the other guys and gals who make up our wonderful military is very thankful for everyones support. as bush said earlier today one by one victory by victory we will root out terrorism and those who hate liberty. god bless the usa! semper fi! mike thank you to all the troops .