Rusted out brake lines

From : lineman

Q: @localhost.talkaboutautos.com partsandmore@alltel.net says... anyone have a great experience with a remote start kit and self installation please advise brand #s and details 05 dodge ram 1500 4x4 with factory keyless entry gas 5.7 hemi i wouldnt do it myself. let someone who has done tons of them do it. my 03 ram has a viper starter in it the third vehicle done at the same local place by the same guy. he never even opened the installation stuff he just did it. this time of year they really do a ton of them. if you havent dealt with the place before check them out at the bbb website. if they have been around for a while they will probably be ok anyway as word gets out quick. bdk doesnt dei make most of them i know clifford viper and a couple more are made by dei. never really had much of a problem with any of the three except this one needed the brains replaced when the blower quit when in remote start. took a half hour and was free under warranty. bdk i think i heard of warlock not tdc. ill have to keep it in mind for the next vehicle. i have no idea who sells it around here. ill have to search for it.. bdk . 222 309195 dnhioe$ag0$1@.isdn.net peter wrote in usa it really makes no sense. europe is totally different matter - there is reasonable number of lpg filling stations and its almost 2x cheaper than gasoline please define the expression 2x cheaper and/or write the mathematical equation for that statement. lpg price per liter = gasoline price per liter / 2 satisfied now ; peter so using that new math another way of saying that two things are the exact same price is to say that one is 1x cheaper than the other. sounds like an additional way for politicians to fool the public with statistics has been invented. the 1x cheaper expression appears to the ignorant public to be saying that one way is cheaper when what is really being said is its the same price - politicians could find this to be a very handy tool. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter x .

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From : mort

john kunkel wrote their hypocrisy is so rampant that even the validity of calling oneself christian is in question. i see so many people enjoy quoting the ten commandments the sermon on the mount and some of pauls sermons but dont even pretend to heed other equally valid maxims. and you are better i dont think you are but you in this reply have shown you think you are better than anyone even god. you just dont get it its not about me its about you. cast can cast all the aspersions you want on me and ill readily admit to most of them because i make no claim of piety. and you dont get it either. its not about me eithe. its about god. i forgive you. you have no power to forgive. i have the power to forgive your transgressions toward me i do not have the power to forgive your sins toward god. by implication you say that there is a power to forgive. budd .

From : mort

thank you jerry. i was agnostic myself back in my teen years so i do understand your beliefs. merry christmas. budd jerry wrote budd cochran wrote but i noticed you did not answer any of the questions. from your statement i can only deduce that you do not believe in the possibility inspiration coming from any source. and you would be wrong. i believe there is a supreme being even to the point that intelligent design may be a valid theory. after all we know there was a man called jesus of nazareth but god as his father is simply theory. however i am not of the nature to accept blind faith on something that is not provable. in other words im agnostic. .

From : tbone

when in 4x4 and in second gear i give it gas and it seems to hesitate and then clunk into 4x4. are you shifting into 4wd when stopped its possible the front axle isnt engaging. try engaging 4wd while rolling let off the throttle some. or if you have to engage while stopped stuck for example. shift it into 4wd then slowly let the clutch out. you want to give the front axle a chance to engage before hammering on it. .

From : max dodge

not to belabor the point but if interested do a google search for warwick ri police scott hornoff. very interesting case of the wrong guy at the wrong place a cop at that!! i dont believe there was any dna for testing puposes so this was clearly all circumstantial evidence for his conviction. if not for a guy confessing years later hed still be behind bars. .

From : tbone

even more to the point if the problem is just beginning to show itsef how the hell would you know the scale of said problem because im smarter than you but then again thats not saying much. if you were smarter than me youd have proof of what you claim. i do its sitting in my driveway. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

just recently purchased the oem block heater for my 01 ram qc 4x4 2500 with 360....anyone ever installed one of these that could offer up a few tips before i dive right into it -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels .

From : tbone

tbone said ...catches all fuel delivery problems funny how you are already backpedaling. since when was this a fuel delivery problem yes nice slight bit of word play to shift away from the fact you were wrong. and for the record i made no claim only pointed out the obvious. good luck with that all encompassing list you got going there buddy. .

From : max dodge

the year and specific vehicle might help. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ok so now the winter is among us i am running in 4x4 but am having an issue. when in 4x4 and in second gear i give it gas and it seems to hesitate and then clunk into 4x4. is this because one of my hubs is not engaging i have a 318 5 speed standard. also in 4x4 it feels like i am hydroplaning. thanx help .

From : max dodge

if you think so please give me a list of fuel problems that are not monitored. if what he said is true your list should be quite long. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving most fuel problems are not monitored hahahahahahahahahaha. max made a correct statement in this context not sure what is so funny about that. if you take his statement to the logical level it in fact can not be proven wrong; as anybody can think up more problems than are on the fixed pcm detection list. .

From : tbone

ok so now the winter is among us i am running in 4x4 but am having an issue. when in 4x4 and in second gear i give it gas and it seems to hesitate and then clunk into 4x4. is this because one of my hubs is not engaging i have a 318 5 speed standard. also in 4x4 it feels like i am hydroplaning. thanx help .

From : tbone

most fuel problems are not monitored hahahahahahahahahaha. about the only fuel problem that is not monitored is fuel pressure directly. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving could be a fuel filter but since most fuel problems are not monitored by the pcm and your cel is coming on id check for codes before assuming anything else. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author about one week ago i tried to start my truck. nothing it just clicked .so i put some dry gas in and heated the truck up and nothing so i looked at the plugs and replaced them. it started right up no problem. as i was driving it chugs. the more i accelerate the more it chugs my check engine light blinks when it chugs then goes off when it returns normal. not i came upona stop sign and when i went to go it chuged then stalled out now my cel stays on and blinks still when it feel like its starving for gas its a 98 dodge dakota 3.9 2wd thanks .

From : max dodge

sounds like either a failing fuel pump or perhaps a bad tank of fuel. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving about one week ago i tried to start my truck. nothing it just clicked .so i put some dry gas in and heated the truck up and nothing so i looked at the plugs and replaced them. it started right up no problem. as i was driving it chugs. the more i accelerate the more it chugs my check engine light blinks when it chugs then goes off when it returns normal. not i came upona stop sign and when i went to go it chuged then stalled out now my cel stays on and blinks still when it feel like its starving for gas its a 98 dodge dakota 3.9 2wd thanks .

From : max dodge

about one week ago i tried to start my truck. nothing it just clicked ..so i put some dry gas in and heated the truck up and nothing so i looked at the plugs and replaced them. it started right up no problem. as i was driving it chugs. the more i accelerate the more it chugs my check engine light blinks when it chugs then goes off when it returns normal. not i came upona stop sign and when i went to go it chuged then stalled out now my cel stays on and blinks still when it feel like its starving for gas its a 98 dodge dakota 3.9 2wd thanks .

From : tbone

on sun 18 dec 2005 103719 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote useing a oil that is made for diesel in a gas engine is foolish for a number of reasons. from chevrons web page; chevron delo 400 synthetic engine oil chevron delo 400 synthetic heavy duty motor oil is recommended for use in turbocharged diesel and four-cycle gasoline engines torque converters gear cases and hydraulic systems operating in arctic-type climates and high temperature conditions. using the latest synthetic oil technology chevron delo 400 synthetic provides excellent performance with either high- or low-sulfur diesel fuels and in extended service applications. i would think that the additives used in a diesel oil would be different from that used in a gas engine. also in most cases oil used in diesel engines are more expensive to buy than that used in gas engines. roy poorub 05 ultra classic the delo is definitely not the cheapest you can buy but generally quality does cost more. .

From : max dodge

you keep making this bs claim about common steel brake line like it is the only thing ever used. lets see some proof to back this up. the links supplied by aarcuda shows you to be full of shit so as you said your little bit of deception and spin aint gonna cut it. the links supplied that lead to the brake lines made of copper refer to aftermarket sources. the only manufacturers specifically mentioned are audi and porsche one other i don;t recall but it was not dodge. dodge trucks have long been built with common steel brake line. the links dont change that fact. meanwhile youve posted nothing to back your claim of several grades of stel in those lines. once again your ignorance and spin rank supreme. i said if and if they did use this sub-standard line on many trucks it will be a big problem for them. no... you said the problem was a change due to corporate greed. if in fact that change occurred it would happen on all trucks. all trucks would be a huge problem. there was no if about it you claimed the brake lines were changed from one year to the next even chastized toml about it. why are the 949596 and 97s exactly the same actually yeah they are. lol too funny. no that is actually part of the corporate greed you like to talk about so much. see they save money if a part works over several years of the same vehicle. so its not funny at all very practical and cost cutting in fact. again this reversal of your previous claims of corporate greed is amusing. could you really be this ignorant who am i kidding of course you are. just because they carry the same part number does not mean that they are exactly the same and in many cases lol what you think that one part number indicates several different parts lol your lookup will only show the most current part that fits the vehicle and it can be completely different form the origional one. wrong. do you think that the current fuel pump for the 97 ram is exactly the same one that came in it when it was new yup. they can change the material that makes up a part and retain the same part number if it still serves the same purpose even if it is not as strong. nope. obviously you have no clue what mopar part numbers do when a part is changed due to design or materials. they have a system that clearly indicates a change even if the number appears to be the same. that change is evident to anyone who knows the system and knows the alphabet. show me exactly where i said that it was a massive campaign to screw the customer. 12/11/05 422pm i guess that its just another dc or at the time chrysler method of increasing profits at the customers expense 12/12/05 116am but hey wait didnt they merge become acquired by daimler shortly after 97 and the better they look higher profits the more money they board members get but we all know that these things only take a few weeks from conception to hammer out and the boards only concern is customer happiness even at their personal cost right tom thats just the first to posts you made to this thread. dont worry ill wait but all you are going to find is miles spin trying to make it look like that is what i said because his argument was otherwise worthless. both were made before miles posted to the thread. as i said you are trying outright denial as a tactic. its not working. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author complete bullshit. there are many materials and alloys that can meet a given pressure spec but they dont all have the same durability corrosion resistance or cost. the fact that you said this just shows how little you really know and i didnt even mention the multiple corosion prevention treatments that can be applied to any one of these numerous materials also at different levels of durability and cost. yup there are a lot of different metals that can meet different pressure spec. but were talking about common steel brake line. so try as you might that little bit of spin aint gonna cut it. you keep making this bs claim about common steel brake line like it is the only thing ever used. lets see some proof to back this up. the links supplied by aarcuda shows you to be full of shit so as you said your little bit of deception and spin aint gonna cut it. if these lines were used on many trucks then there will be a huge problem in the near future ok so it was you that said the problem was huge despite your denial in the immediately previous post where you informed miles that he and i said it not you. learn how to read and then tell me where i said it was huge and that it did affect massive numbers of vehicles. right up there. you keep repeating how the problem is so big. once again your ignorance and spin rank supreme. i said if and if they did use this sub-

From : tbone

john kunkel wrote john kunkel wrote christian brainwashing was attempted but failed my status as a card-carrying atheist with some biblical knowledge qualifies me to comment on obvious hypocrisy among avowed christians. its not about whether you agree or disagree with someones views. its your feable attempt to say how someone else should or shouldnt act. qualified to say how someone else should behave based on your own views it aint my own views its written in the book that christians supposedly lead their lives by. wrong john. its your blind unbelieving interpretation of selected verses that you manipulate out of context to try and destroy christian beliefs and the credibility of the bible a book you rejected. and all your doing is showing you dont know as much as you think. or did you miss the verse thou fool!!! take the beam from thine own eye before you remove the splinter from thy brothers. get right with jesus then you can correct me. budd .

From : tom lawrence

well tom since you dont know how a christian fundamentalist is supposed to behave someone needs to teach you. if you are an example with the way you have been acting recently i would prefer not to know. my sister and a few of my friends are born again christians and while none of them are perfect all of the time after all they are still human they do not try and justify or deny all of their faults and mistakes like you seem to be doing. i asked you many times what your motivation was for starting this post and im still waiting for a valid answer. contrary to what the left thinks were not all in some stereotypical mold. here we go with the left again. is that all you can think about. the first thing you really need to do to be closer to god is to get rid of all that hatred you seem to have. not all the worlds problems are due to the left and your constant indicating that they are just makes you look hateful and ignorant. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

catalytic converter i had mine replaced sounded like a piece of metal vibrating on metal. get someone to rev the engine and listen for it. 99 dodge dakota slt extended cab. 51k miles. theres a mystery vibration noise that im trying to locate. maybe you can help me find it. i get what sounds like some sort of metallic vibration noise at around 35-43 mph but only after the truck warms up. it sounds like a harmonic whine. it might be something metal vibrating at high rate rubbing against something else thats metal but that s just a guess. its not particularly loud just enough to be annoying and no its not tire hum - its higher pitched than that. the noise seems to be coming from the area just behind the cab where the gas tank is on the drivers side. ive crawled under there several times and havent been able to find anything.i thought maybe it was a heat shield on the gas tank vibrating but i stuffed some rags under them to test and it still did it. the noise only occurs when the truck is in drive. it wont do it at all when in park. if you let off the gas the sound stops so its not a wind-caused noise. i would think maybe the exhaust but the sound seems to be coming from the other side of the truck. any ideas its driving me crazy! thanks todd .

From : thesnoman

jay wrote chevron delo 15w-40 is made for a diesel not gas engines. your mechanic has to be older than dirt. i have been using a chevron delo 15w-40 synthetic oil in a 2004 ram 1500 and a grand caravan stow and go 3.8 throughout. mechanic recommendation. is this then a bad idea perhaps i phrase my question as clear as i could have... so i will try again i am considering the purchase of a 2005/2006 dakota slt - therefore i do not have a manual to check. i was hoping someone with a manual would advise me of the preferred as well as the option higher viscosity oils that may be referred to in the owners manual. unlike some other car makers dodge does not seem to have a tech link that i am able to locate. my current vehicle manufacturer has a great support site complete with tsbs oild viscosity charts etc. thanks for any help you can give. paul nothing wrong at all with using 15w40 in a older engine in hot weather or to help reduce oil consumption in a worn engine. it will not hurt a thing and is a better choice for this than 10w40. it would not be my first choice in a new tight engine unless it got up to 100 or more a lot during that change cycle. useing a oil that is made for diesel in a gas engine is foolish for a number of reasons. .

From : coasty

jay wrote chevron delo 15w-40 is made for a diesel not gas engines. your mechanic has to be older than dirt. i have been using a chevron delo 15w-40 synthetic oil in a 2004 ram 1500 and a grand caravan stow and go 3.8 throughout. mechanic recommendation. is this then a bad idea perhaps i phrase my question as clear as i could have... so i will try again i am considering the purchase of a 2005/2006 dakota slt - therefore i do not have a manual to check. i was hoping someone with a manual would advise me of the preferred as well as the option higher viscosity oils that may be referred to in the owners manual. unlike some other car makers dodge does not seem to have a tech link that i am able to locate. my current vehicle manufacturer has a great support site complete with tsbs oild viscosity charts etc. thanks for any help you can give. paul nothing wrong at all with using 15w40 in a older engine in hot weather or to help reduce oil consumption in a worn engine. it will not hurt a thing and is a better choice for this than 10w40. it would not be my first choice in a new tight engine unless it got up to 100 or more a lot during that change cycle. -- ----------------- www.thesnoman.com .

From : max dodge

miles wrote tbone wrote you know about a dozen people with 97s lets have some names. yep. my company. any more brainless stupid ass questions it is obvious just reading the posts in here. bad rear bearings in the 9 1/4 worthless ball joints in the dakota a huge number of blower resistor blowouts bad blend air doors hell i could rattle off this crap all day. about the same as ford chevy etc. but i asked for some credible info to back your claim up and you just spewed some personal bs lol quite honestly dodge has had a lot of those problems and it known for them like gm is known for piston slap issues in a lot of earier 5.3s and some 6.0s due to poor quality/tolerance control. -- ----------------- www.thesnoman.com .

From : max dodge

hey max why do you even reply to t-bone head ill admit he does provide some comic relief he sure does let his alligator mouth over load his humming bird ass and that is what is so funny. he sorta reminds me of the key stone cops intentions may be honorable but the light bulb is burned out. my observation coasty it is obvious just reading the posts in here. bad rear bearings in the 9 1/4 worthless ball joints in the dakota a huge number of blower resistor blowouts bad blend air doors hell i could rattle off this crap all day. yeah you could but until you get the facts you ought to shut up. dc just released a not so easily found piece of info saying the 9 1/4 axle was affected by a bad pinion seal. so it was not the bearings but the pinion seal. even when there is a problem you dont know what it is. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author tbone wrote based on the fact that mine and at least three others all failed well i know about a dozen that have no problems. my dozen beats your 3 or 4. real credible evidence ya got there! lol you know about a dozen people with 97s lets have some names. add to that dcs history of using second rate parts and it gets pretty easy. do tell us all with something credible to back that statement up or is it just your own personal hearsay again it is obvious just reading the posts in here. bad rear bearings in the 9 1/4 worthless ball joints in the dakota a huge number of blower resistor blowouts bad blend air doors hell i could rattle off this crap all day. it is not the number of cases yet that makes it huge it is what is happening. and you have nothing to suggest anything is happening. 4 people that had the exact same failure within a few months. i said that it might be nothing but the chances are better that it is. perhaps you will still be laughing if a line on your wifes vehicle fails. then you can add that most people dont report things to the nhtsa especially on older out of warranty vehicles because most people dont care. what hmm...guess that could be said about anything anywhere at any time. better not buy anything because you just never know it might be no good sometime later. thats your story huh better worry cuz it might be bad. lol more right wing bs spin. where did i say this because unlike you i can see the writing on the wall. do you actually read the problem posts in here i read what many say. nhtsa is a good place to see what complaints problems individuals have noted. far better than this group are places like dodgeforums.com or dodgetalk.com. even there the writing is not on the wall tbone. dang liberal blind conspiracy crap gone wild! cheap parts put in by rich greedy business owners. funny! more bs spin. i said lower priced parts and that is exactly what they did many times. its all about the money miles with people like them and you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

it is obvious just reading the posts in here. bad rear bearings in the 9 1/4 worthless ball joints in the dakota a huge number of blower resistor blowouts bad blend air doors hell i could rattle off this crap all day. yeah you could but until you get the facts you ought to shut up. dc just released a not so easily found piece of info saying the 9 1/4 axle was affected by a bad pinion seal. so it was not the bearings but the pinion seal. even when there is a problem you dont know what it is. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author tbone wrote based on the fact that mine and at least three others all failed well i know about a dozen that have no problems. my dozen beats your 3 or 4. real credible evidence ya got there! lol you know about a dozen people with 97s lets have some names. add to that dcs history of using second rate parts and it gets pretty easy. do tell us all with something credible to back that statement up or is it just your own personal hearsay again it is obvious just reading the posts in here. bad rear bearings in the 9 1/4 worthless ball joints in the dakota a huge number of blower resistor blowouts bad blend air doors hell i could rattle off this crap all day. it is not the number of cases yet that makes it huge it is what is happening. and you have nothing to suggest anything is happening. 4 people that had the exact same failure within a few months. i said that it might be nothing but the chances are better that it is. perhaps you will still be laughing if a line on your wifes vehicle fails. then you can add that most people dont report things to the nhtsa especially on older out of warranty vehicles because most people dont care. what hmm...guess that could be said about anything anywhere at any time. better not buy anything because you just never know it might be no good sometime later. thats your story huh better worry cuz it might be bad. lol more right wing bs spin. where did i say this because unlike you i can see the writing on the wall. do you actually read the problem posts in here i read what many say. nhtsa is a good place to see what complaints problems individuals have noted. far better than this group are places like dodgeforums.com or dodgetalk.com. even there the writing is not on the wall tbone. dang liberal blind conspiracy crap gone wild! cheap parts put in by rich greedy business owners. funny! more bs spin. i said lower priced parts and that is exactly what they did many times. its all about the money miles with people like them and you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on sun 18 dec 2005 005827 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote this really has to be just about the dumbest thing to come out of you yet. you have to be something to know how they are supposed to behave too funny. a christian fundamentalist is at best a contradiction. fundamentalists believe god needs their help - he is incapable of handling things on this earth without the superior knowlege he has imparted on the christian fundamentalist. the fundamentalist also does not believe in grace. take the fundamentalist out and the christian lets god be god. the christian knows hes not perfect but trusts gods grace. .

From : tbone

if your owners manual says 5w-30 or 10w-30 that is what you should use. there are reasons for manufacturers recommended viscosities. coasty amen! and in some of the new 5.7l multi-displacement engines the improper viscosity oil may result in a check engine light being illuminated. mike i have been using a chevron delo 15w-40 synthetic oil in a 2004 ram 1500 and a grand caravan stow and go 3.8 throughout. mechanic recommendation. is this then a bad idea perhaps i phrase my question as clear as i could have... so i will try again i am considering the purchase of a 2005/2006 dakota slt - therefore i do not have a manual to check. i was hoping someone with a manual would advise me of the preferred as well as the option higher viscosity oils that may be referred to in the owners manual. unlike some other car makers dodge does not seem to have a tech link that i am able to locate. my current vehicle manufacturer has a great support site complete with tsbs oild viscosity charts etc. thanks for any help you can give. paul .

From : max dodge

i dont need all of them just one. the brake line on mine failed at only 8 years old which shows it to be inferior. nope. shos that it failed. it doesnt prove anything else at all. lol i expect nothing more form you. have three other vehicles that have not had this problem and all were driven under similar conditions and two of them are significantly older so it is not just a matter of time. ive had older vehicles that the brake lines were fine and younger ones that the brakelines were rusted through. its a matter of conditions not inferior materials. brake line is manufactured to a pressure spec thus all brake line will be of similar material. complete bullshit. there are many materials and alloys that can meet a given pressure spec but they dont all have the same durability corrosion resistance or cost. the fact that you said this just shows how little you really know and i didnt even mention the multiple corosion prevention treatments that can be applied to any one of these numerous materials also at different levels of durability and cost. if these lines were used on many trucks then there will be a huge problem in the near future ok so it was you that said the problem was huge despite your denial in the immediately previous post where you informed miles that he and i said it not you. learn how to read and then tell me where i said it was huge and that it did affect massive numbers of vehicles. given that your truck is a 97 and there are not any huge problems with the 94 95 and 96 model years i seriously doubt there will be a huge problem on the 97. why are the 949596 and 97s exactly the same but i did say that is could be nothing more than a bad batch but with dc recent history im not sure about that and the chances are good that it is something more. it was you and miles that spun it into all of this bs. no it was you. you claimed that dc had a massive campaign to screw the consumer that they used inferior materials and that brake lines dont rust out in eight years. lol no that was miles spin saying a massive campaign to screw the customer and brake lines dont normally rust out in eight years. youve backed none of those claims with facts and thus the conclusion that comes from all this is thta you are once again full of shit. no you are just spinning and making yourself look like an idiot once again. the sad thing is that you do it so often that nobody really notices anymore. have a nice day. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : thesnoman

this is not exactly true. something will try to react with the air rust is a gavlanic reaction and your brake line are the most suseptable in some applications. what i have long done with my plow trucks that are in salt a lot is to spary them with 90 weaght oil in a paint spray gun and they last for years in even the harshest environment. what is not exactly true what you described proves that conditions are the biggest factor in brake lines rusting. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author max dodge wrote i dont need all of them just one. the brake line on mine failed at only 8 years old which shows it to be inferior. nope. shos that it failed. it doesnt prove anything else at all. have three other vehicles that have not had this problem and all were driven under similar conditions and two of them are significantly older so it is not just a matter of time. ive had older vehicles that the brake lines were fine and younger ones that the brakelines were rusted through. its a matter of conditions not inferior materials. brake line is manufactured to a pressure spec thus all brake line will be of similar material. if these lines were used on many trucks then there will be a huge problem in the near future ok so it was you that said the problem was huge despite your denial in the immediately previous post where you informed miles that he and i said it not you. given that your truck is a 97 and there are not any huge problems with the 94 95 and 96 model years i seriously doubt there will be a huge problem on the 97. but i did say that is could be nothing more than a bad batch but with dc recent history im not sure about that and the chances are good that it is something more. it was you and miles that spun it into all of this bs. no it was you. you claimed that dc had a massive campaign to screw the consumer that they used inferior materials and that brake lines dont rust out in eight years. youve backed none of those claims with facts and thus the conclusion that comes from all this is thta you are once again full of shit. have a nice day. this is not exactly true. something will try to react with the air rust is a gavlanic reaction and your brake line are the most suseptable in some applications. what i have long done with my plow trucks that are in salt a lot is to spary them with 90 weaght oil in a paint spray gun and they last for years in even the harshest environment. -- ----------------- www.thesnoman.com .

From : tbone

max dodge wrote i dont need all of them just one. the brake line on mine failed at only 8 years old which shows it to be inferior. nope. shos that it failed. it doesnt prove anything else at all. have three other vehicles that have not had this problem and all were driven under similar conditions and two of them are significantly older so it is not just a matter of time. ive had older vehicles that the brake lines were fine and younger ones that the brakelines were rusted through. its a matter of conditions not inferior materials. brake line is manufactured to a pressure spec thus all brake line will be of similar material. if these lines were used on many trucks then there will be a huge problem in the near future ok so it was you that said the problem was huge despite your denial in the immediately previous post where you informed miles that he and i said it not you. given that your truck is a 97 and there are not any huge problems with the 94 95 and 96 model years i seriously doubt there will be a huge problem on the 97. but i did say that is could be nothing more than a bad batch but with dc recent history im not sure about that and the chances are good that it is something more. it was you and miles that spun it into all of this bs. no it was you. you claimed that dc had a massive campaign to screw the consumer that they used inferior materials and that brake lines dont rust out in eight years. youve backed none of those claims with facts and thus the conclusion that comes from all this is thta you are once again full of shit. have a nice day. this is not exactly true. something will try to react with the air rust is a gavlanic reaction and your brake line are the most suseptable in some applications. what i have long done with my plow trucks that are in salt a lot is to spary them with 90 weaght oil in a paint spray gun and they last for years in even the harshest environment. -- ----------------- www.thesnoman.com .

From : miles

i have been using a chevron delo 15w-40 synthetic oil in a 2004 ram 1500 and a grand caravan stow and go 3.8 throughout. mechanic recommendation. is this then a bad idea perhaps i phrase my question as clear as i could have... so i will try again i am considering the purchase of a 2005/2006 dakota slt - therefore i do not have a manual to check. i was hoping someone with a manual would advise me of the preferred as well as the option higher viscosity oils that may be referred to in the owners manual. unlike some other car makers dodge does not seem to have a tech link that i am able to locate. my current vehicle manufacturer has a great support site complete with tsbs oild viscosity charts etc. thanks for any help you can give. paul .

From : tbone

tbone wrote lol i really have no idea what you are talking about. how could i respond to you before you posted anything -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving gee tommy did you think about looking at thetime of day it was posted after you started you crap budd the only reason you dont have a clue is because if you did you would know that you started the whole mess. lol actually budd you were the op in this off-topic post so you are actually the one who started this whole mess. and when i said that your post was in poor taste one of your right wing assholes jumped in and tried to make it political followed by miles imaginge that. you can blame me if you want to but we both know that it is a load of crap. btw you didnt respond before i posted anything . . .i was the op remember yep and therefore to blame for all of it. sound kinda dumb right budd so do your accusations against me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

tbone wrote tom you have a track record of hassling me about my beliefs the mr. religion comment was just a continuation. only in your mind budd but as they say about self fulfilling prophecy.... more insults tom how childish. it is not an insult budd it is the truth. you are so desperate for me to attack you to justify your feelings anything i say will be taken and was taken as an initial attack against you. for a while i thought you had moved beyond that. i have but if you insist on believing that im going to attack you it will happen even if im unaware of it. lol look at him spin and dance his way out . . . no i dont insist on believing it or you would never have been given a second chance. please budd you never did and you know it. if you did then you would be able to look past the minor things that will happen and you never have. tom the only way an insult can happen is for the author of the insult to deliberately say the insult. if it happens by accident then it is merely a transgression. to poke what you call fun at a person on a subject you know to be a tender spot is always an act of degredation an insult. like i said budd you will see only what you want to see but if it really upsets you so then i apologise. perhaps you might keep this in mind when you post that someone who never did anything to you isnt worth a few pigs and a rat. and i did post the original post as a joke but youll never acept it. i believe you but it was still in poor taste and that is really all i said. no it was only part of what you said then you made an insult. until that point i had no problem at all with your reply. why is it that you can post an insult and that was all it was and that is ok but if someone poke fun at you even in a minor way it is a major event btw i didnt make the religious comment until you made the lame attempt to justify your attack as a simple joke which we both know is not the case. thats your problem not mine. if you are really so thin skinned that you are unable to take any criticism then the real problem is always going to be yours. thin skinned thin skinned ya wanna talk thin skinned ok lets talk thin skinned. i cant wait to see the level of distortion this turns into. let anyone say anything negative or even truthful about your precious gods the liberals and you come unglued all over them. you attack with guns blazing. you deliver insults that would be making you seek help from a plastic surgeon if made them to peoples faces. and then you deny responsibility. go back and follow the thread again budd. i was not the one that started the political crap and you know it. that would be democreeps miles and you. all i did was respond to it. the problem with you budd is that you are so damn bitter that anything negative said about the dems or liberals is fully acceptable if you even notice it at all but even mention something possibly negative about the reps or conservatives and its a crime against god. grow up dude and accept your own responsibility for a change. in this case you had little to do with the political crap short of making a baseless attack on the daughter of a former dem president but i didnt start any of it. did i get involved yep but did i start it no! look over this thread again tom and see just how fast you made a post of an innocent joke into a political / religious fight because of how thin skinned you are. as i said budd you see only what you want to see. the third post in the thread began the political crap and it was not by me. hell my response to it was still not political and when the butthead was finally challenged to back up his political bs he tucked is head back up his ass and ran away. is that what really got you mad that one of your right wing friends got his ass handed back to him the fault of what happened is completely yours and no one elses. and you should be ashamed of yourself. once again budd you see only what you want to see and now are resorting to plain lies. you were the op in an off topic post and therefore you are more to blame than i. my initial post to this thread was simply saying that your post was in poor taste and it was. the third post in the thread was from that little child molester democreeps which attempted to turn it into a political thing and i responded by calling him the asshole that he was nothing political at all. it wasnt until his third or forth post that i responded to his crap and he then ran away. funny how you seem to have forgotten about that part. i guess we both know the one who really should be ashamed here. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

as i previously stated crankshaft position sensor! it sounds like you need a new mechanic. unless your mechanic had hooked the obc to an actual computer scanner to actually check the data stream you cannot tell if you need a new obc. also by reading the data stream you will be able to pinpoint the probable cause with out doing that you are just throwing money out the window. coasty update to this story. at first the mechanic says it wasnt the fuel pump. he said its the plugs wires rotor and cap. i asked him if he was 100% sure it was this he said yes. to make a long story short the new plugs wires rotor and cap are in along with a brand new fuel pump the pump is covered by our warranty plan. the truck still wont start. he said he spent over two hours on his computer trying to figure out what the heck is wrong with this truck. now hes come to the conclusion that its the trucks computer. it has somehow gone bad and needs to be replaced. he said the copmuter will be around $400.00. now the total bill will be $666.00. yes the sign of the devil... as you can probably tell im not a mechanic. im just a guy who owns a dodge truck and i know how to do monthly yearly maintenance oil brakes etc. sort of the easy stuff. so now the hard thing is wondering whether or not im being taken for a ride here. im 99% sure im not taking my vehicle to this guy again. the reason im taking it here is so i can easily use my extended warranty plan because the place i bought the truck is on the same property. is it common for the computer to just die does he sound like he knows what he is doing does this guy sound legit thanks again steve thanks for all your replies. right now the truck is still in the shop. we had it towed to the shop because on the phone the mechanic said if it was the fuel pump which he was sure it was it would be covered by our extended warranty. but now the mechanic says the fuel pump is fine. he says he cant start it it turns over but wont start. now says we need new spark plugs wires rotor and cap. i might have believed him if i it werent for the fact that i changed the spark plugs about 8 months ago. he said he knew that but we didnt put in the correct ones dodge factory plugs this conversation with the mechanic was between my wife and him by the way. how could my truck run for the past 8 months if i had installed the wrong plugs... a lot of people i talk to feel it is the fuel filter. origin of problem. the odometer was around 270 when my wife took the truck out for some kind of errand. i usually get 300 miles per fill up. she drove about 3 miles and starting losing power. she had to pull over. she knew it wasnt good so she turned around to go home. she only had enough power to get it up to 20 mph the whole way home 3 miles. i have run out gas twice with this truck and i got the exact same symptoms lose of power. but the only difference in her episode was that she was able to go a much farther distance. in my two cases i lost power drove for another 500 yards and could go no further couldnt start it again. out of gas. all this took place while i was out of town. her father put about five gallons in it and it wouldnt start. it would turn over but wouldnt start. so we had it towed to the shop. i dont really believe we need the new wires plugs rotor and cap. i think its the fuel filter clogged partially with some junk that was in the tank. thats why some gas was getting through and allowing my wife to make it back home. should i just tell the mechanic to change the fuel filter and go from there see if that works dont you think he should have suggested that in the first place any help would be great. thanks .

From : miles

tbone wrote no she was the daughter of a pair of celebrities and unlike our current presidents daughters kept herself for the most part out of the limelight. what is the exact motivation for this joke anyway budd since she hasnt been the first daughter for 5 years now. could it be that the republican party is screwing the pooch and may lose control at the next election if so then it is pretty low to take your bitterness out on someones daughter and this was not a joke it is an attack on her worth you do know that right mr. religion. then why did the democrats try a low blow regarding cheneys daughter as well as cheap shots at bushs daughters youre such a hypocrite tbone. .

From : max dodge

fair enough subject ended. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving nope if youre happy im happy. i just thought youd made a typo. budd .

From : max dodge

if you were smarter than me youd have proof of what you claim. i do its sitting in my driveway. you have all 1997 dodge trucks in your driveway if not you dont have proof. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author even more to the point if the problem is just beginning to show itsef how the hell would you know the scale of said problem because im smarter than you but then again thats not saying much. if you were smarter than me youd have proof of what you claim. i do its sitting in my driveway. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

oh you can joke about a persons religion but i cant joke about a person that was in the just a few weeks ago you can defame a persons political befliefs but no one can say a single negative about yours thank you for explaining your bigotry so we can all misunderstand better. i shall in the future endeavor to more effectively try to avoid the error of not commiting the offense of regarding your verbage unimportant. budd .

From : tbone

iow another shithead that cant back up their own arguments hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahaha bye loser -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving //////snipped///////// plonk flushed gone zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz .

From : tbone

not at all that would be you. funny how you are doing everything that you accuse the democrats of doing. i guess that we know the real truth now. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving oh puleeeeeeeeeze t-bone now your veering the whole discussion away from your own hypocrisy another classic democreep tactic. funny then how you started with the name calling isnt it. even your bs handle and faked posting info are name calling lol! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving typical liberal democreep when confronted with factual material they resort to name calling. how can you tell when a liberal is losing an argument they resort to name calling. == rush limbaugh lol another asshole shows how stupid he really is. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yeah yeah yeah same ole democreep double standard. how soon the liberal looney democraps forget how kerry made an issue in the presidential campaign of cheneys daughter being a lesbian. how about when heinz-kerry lied and accused laura bush of *never* having to work for a living now that was really democrap hypocrisy since heinz-kerry inherited all her money from her husband senator heinz. moreover laura bush taught for many years in the texas public school system hit the road t-bone and take your double standard democreep hypocrisy with you. has your democreep party come up with a plan for iraq yet nevermind the democrap plan is to cut and run while letting coward dean rant & rave like the lunatic he is. yeah t-bone have some class leave cheneys daughter out of it. john purple hearts kerry my ass! i read a while ago in the odd on yahoo that kenyan councilman godwin kipkemoi chepkurgor offered 40 goats and 2 cows for the hand of chelsea clinton in marriage about five years ago. he must be desperate. i dont think she could be worth more than a couple pigs and a rat but only if they offer change back. budd this is pretty low budd and shows a complete lack of class. what did chelsea do to you or anybody else for that matter and you of all people who claims that family should be kept out of things. if you dont like bill or hillary fine make your jokes about them since they are both public figures in politics but have some class man and leave their daughter out of it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

i tried the battery thing an still no luck.. .

From : max dodge

2001 dodge caravan two weeks ago i replaced the resistor block because the fan would only work on high. now it looks like it is bad again. also checked the filter and their is not one for this model van so their is no restricted air flow to overheat the resistor block. any ideas tia chris .

From : tbone

opinion. that is 9 months maximum at the state level and 9 months at the federal level. i dont think the govenor should have an opportunity to do anything but watch the process. williams would have been dead almost 20 years by now. my 2 cents worth. fmb only one b in fmb and what about people who are wrongly convicted sometimes it takes 15- 20 years to prove them innocent. of course if the police and prosecutors would do their jobs correctly this would very seldom happen. but you know it has. i dont really care about tookie he did enough stuff to get offed for anyway but you see constantly on tv some stories about some poor bastard who is proven innocent 10-15-20 years after conviction and usually a couple of years of that time is caused by prosecutors dragging their feet or sometimes fighting a dna test. if they are sure of the persons guilt why fight it thats not taking into account the actual times the police frame people and the da hides evidence that clears them. perhaps with the advancement of dna technology laws should be changed to afford immediate testing. theres a local guy here who was sent up for murdering his girlfriend mostly due to the obviously coached testimony of his 3 year old son. after fighting for years and his grandmother protesting daily at the courthouse he got a dna test and like he claimed all along it wasnt him. the da isnt getting go completely as they still refuse to totally clear him saying we arent sure he wasnt involved somehow. they took 14 years away from him he lost everything his son is brainwashed and hates him his health is shot and they dont want to give him any cash for his trouble.. that seems to be happening more and more. seems a lot of it is politiclly driven. sort of clear the case load the elections next month. roy some justice! bdk i have no real problem with the death penalty if and this is a big if there is photographic/video/lots of witnesses/he confesses/hes caught in the act but when there is one witness particularly a jailhouse snitch or they are doing a hey i know who did the xxx murder if i tell you will you let me walk on the drug charge type of stuff without any other evidence linking them then i dont think the dp should be in the picture. there are some people who will vote guilty no matter how nonsensical the case is thinking well the cops wouldnt have arrested them if they were innocent! they dont seem to realize the political pressure to solve a big case the hound dog/ tunnel vision effect where no other suspects are even looked at and then theres a cop who solves a big case to promote his career. then you get into the da doing it for great publicity when he runs for council or mayor commissioner. etc. he would be a great whatever after all he put the so and so killer in jail or on death row. the local guy convicted of murdering his girlfriend was a victim of tunnel vision at least partly and also the pressure to solve the big case where a woman was killed in front of her toddler. you can brainwash a little kid in a few minutes sometimes. as a goof we told my friends little brother about how he was trapped in an amusement park ride and they had to have a ladder truck come and get him out. over 30 years later he still believes it happened. hes very gullible anyway and falls for stories that are totally nonsensical but he was only 4 when we did it so we didnt know it would stick like it did. . 222 309382 e5536ee0fde46a7016b2e9a4a64b3e96@localhost.talkaboutautos.com yes iam wearing the seatbelt and im the only one in the truck. .

From : tbone

i read a while ago in the odd on yahoo that kenyan councilman godwin kipkemoi chepkurgor offered 40 goats and 2 cows for the hand of chelsea clinton in marriage about five years ago. he must be desperate. i dont think she could be worth more than a couple pigs and a rat but only if they offer change back. budd .

From : max dodge

tbone wrote if the problem is just beginning to show itself then how would they know about it you wouldnt know about it either which means your claim is just bs! .

From : miles

update to this story. at first the mechanic says it wasnt the fuel pump. he said its the plugs wires rotor and cap. i asked him if he was 100% sure it was this he said yes. it was seem like he was wrong. to make a long story short the new plugs wires rotor and cap are in along with a brand new fuel pump the pump is covered by our warranty plan. the truck still wont start. a simple test as others have pointed out would have told him the pump was ng. he said he spent over two hours on his computer trying to figure out what the heck is wrong with this truck. now hes come to the conclusion that its the trucks computer. it has somehow gone bad and needs to be replaced. he said the copmuter will be around $400.00. now the total bill will be $666.00. yes the sign of the devil... ill assume that he expects you to pay for the plugs and other stuff. ya have the stuff but he should eat the labor given that the parts were mistakenly replaced and were not needed. as you can probably tell im not a mechanic. im just a guy who owns a dodge truck and i know how to do monthly yearly maintenance oil brakes etc. sort of the easy stuff. so now the hard thing is wondering whether or not im being taken for a ride here. im 99% sure im not taking my vehicle to this guy again. the reason im taking it here is so i can easily use my extended warranty plan because the place i bought the truck is on the same property. is it common for the computer to just die it happens does he sound like he knows what he is doing no!!! does this guy sound legit sounds over his head to me. roy thanks again steve thanks for all your replies. right now the truck is still in the shop. we had it towed to the shop because on the phone the mechanic said if it was the fuel pump which he was sure it was it would be covered by our extended warranty. but now the mechanic says the fuel pump is fine. he says he cant start it it turns over but wont start. now says we need new spark plugs wires rotor and cap. i might have believed him if i it werent for the fact that i changed the spark plugs about 8 months ago. he said he knew that but we didnt put in the correct ones dodge factory plugs this conversation with the mechanic was between my wife and him by the way. how could my truck run for the past 8 months if i had installed the wrong plugs... a lot of people i talk to feel it is the fuel filter. origin of problem. the odometer was around 270 when my wife took the truck out for some kind of errand. i usually get 300 miles per fill up. she drove about 3 miles and starting losing power. she had to pull over. she knew it wasnt good so she turned around to go home. she only had enough power to get it up to 20 mph the whole way home 3 miles. i have run out gas twice with this truck and i got the exact same symptoms lose of power. but the only difference in her episode was that she was able to go a much farther distance. in my two cases i lost power drove for another 500 yards and could go no further couldnt start it again. out of gas. all this took place while i was out of town. her father put about five gallons in it and it wouldnt start. it would turn over but wouldnt start. so we had it towed to the shop. i dont really believe we need the new wires plugs rotor and cap. i think its the fuel filter clogged partially with some junk that was in the tank. thats why some gas was getting through and allowing my wife to make it back home. should i just tell the mechanic to change the fuel filter and go from there see if that works dont you think he should have suggested that in the first place any help would be great. thanks .

From : miles

update to this story. at first the mechanic says it wasnt the fuel pump. he said its the plugs wires rotor and cap. i asked him if he was 100% sure it was this he said yes. to make a long story short the new plugs wires rotor and cap are in along with a brand new fuel pump the pump is covered by our warranty plan. the truck still wont start. he said he spent over two hours on his computer trying to figure out what the heck is wrong with this truck. now hes come to the conclusion that its the trucks computer. it has somehow gone bad and needs to be replaced. he said the copmuter will be around $400.00. now the total bill will be $666.00. yes the sign of the devil... as you can probably tell im not a mechanic. im just a guy who owns a dodge truck and i know how to do monthly yearly maintenance oil brakes etc. sort of the easy stuff. so now the hard thing is wondering whether or not im being taken for a ride here. im 99% sure im not taking my vehicle to this guy again. the reason im taking it here is so i can easily use my extended warranty plan because the place i bought the truck is on the same property. is it common for the computer to just die does he sound like he knows what he is doing does this guy sound legit thanks again steve thanks for all your replies. right now the truck is still in the shop. we had it towed to the shop because on the phone the mechanic said if it was the fuel pump which he was sure it was it would be covered by our extended warranty. but now the mechanic says the fuel pump is fine. he says he cant start it it turns over but wont start. now says we need new spark plugs wires rotor and cap. i might have believed him if i it werent for the fact that i changed the spark plugs about 8 months ago. he said he knew that but we didnt put in the correct ones dodge factory plugs this conversation with the mechanic was between my wife and him by the way. how could my truck run for the past 8 months if i had installed the wrong plugs... a lot of people i talk to feel it is the fuel filter. origin of problem. the odometer was around 270 when my wife took the truck out for some kind of errand. i usually get 300 miles per fill up. she drove about 3 miles and starting losing power. she had to pull over. she knew it wasnt good so she turned around to go home. she only had enough power to get it up to 20 mph the whole way home 3 miles. i have run out gas twice with this truck and i got the exact same symptoms lose of power. but the only difference in her episode was that she was able to go a much farther distance. in my two cases i lost power drove for another 500 yards and could go no further couldnt start it again. out of gas. all this took place while i was out of town. her father put about five gallons in it and it wouldnt start. it would turn over but wouldnt start. so we had it towed to the shop. i dont really believe we need the new wires plugs rotor and cap. i think its the fuel filter clogged partially with some junk that was in the tank. thats why some gas was getting through and allowing my wife to make it back home. should i just tell the mechanic to change the fuel filter and go from there see if that works dont you think he should have suggested that in the first place any help would be great. thanks .

From : max dodge

suddenly without warning cjl exclaimed 14-dec-05 1043 pm 2001 dodge caravan two weeks ago i replaced the resistor block because the fan would only work on high. now it looks like it is bad again. also checked the filter and their is not one for this model van so their is no restricted air flow to overheat the resistor block. any ideas tia chris i was once told on this ng that the blower motor itself could be causing the resistor to go overcharging i forget. im on my third - replaced the oem that died in under 11 months replaced it again. knock wood that ones holding but if it breaks too ill be replacing the motor. ive a 2001 dakota. quite a common problem in this years vehicles from what ive seen on this ng in the last couple of years. jmc .

From : max dodge

yeah i am but you arent. you claimed the problem was already huge and blamed corporate greed. now you claim the problem is just beginning. what will you claim next yep i said it was and is a huge problem just not effecting a huge number of people yet. then why did you claim it was corporate greeed and that lots of trucks were affected yup since most owners never worry about all that you just mentioned and most owners do several if not all you mentioned. yet there hasnt been any proof offered by you that there is a massive brake line problem. and you have no proof that there isnt. but i never made any absurd claims like you did. i merely said the problem wasnt as prevailent as you claim. proof of my claim is that there are no recalls no nhtsa legal action on the issue. you have..... there are two cases so far on the nhtsa site and while 1 doesnt have a date the other is at the end of october which was when mine failed. wow four truck total. jeez terrible what those dodge guys are doing to the public. take a look at ford psd claims. when the dodge brake lines get to that scale then youll have some facts meanwhile you are full of shit. lol not every problem makes itself known right away despite your spin. not every problem that you have is really a problem despite your spin. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author could you spin any faster maxi every problem begins somewhere. are you not bright enough to figure even that much out yeah i am but you arent. you claimed the problem was already huge and blamed corporate greed. now you claim the problem is just beginning. what will you claim next yep i said it was and is a huge problem just not effecting a huge number of people yet. i honestly believe that you are dumb enough to say this and mean it. how about never changing the brake fluid and many never do driving the vehicle on the beach and possibly in the surf as seen on tv never cleaning the chassie after heavy salt use on the roads. do i really need to continue yup since most owners never worry about all that you just mentioned and most owners do several if not all you mentioned. yet there hasnt been any proof offered by you that there is a massive brake line problem. and you have no proof that there isnt. there are two cases so far on the nhtsa site and while 1 doesnt have a date the other is at the end of october which was when mine failed. if the problem is just beginning to reveal itself there will be no documentation and you knew that right you originally claimed there was a massive problem caused by corporate greed but you already knew that right so where is the problem lol not every problem makes itself known right away despite your spin. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

even more to the point if the problem is just beginning to show itsef how the hell would you know the scale of said problem because im smarter than you but then again thats not saying much. if you were smarter than me youd have proof of what you claim. but you dont so the only other conclusion that comes to mind is..... you arent as smart as me. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author nhtsa for one. youre the one that made the claim that this year of truck has brake line troubles yet you cant show me one scrap of credible evidence of such. if the problem is just beginning to show itself then how would they know about it even more to the point if the problem is just beginning to show itsef how the hell would you know the scale of said problem because im smarter than you but then again thats not saying much. more spin. miles kicked your ass. the only real spin is coming from you but if it makes you feel better to believe this knock yourself out. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

how amusing. given the comments that keep showing up here i doubt anyone thinks you are generally credible. and those same comments are said about you and lately more often than they are said about me. jeez youll lie about nayhting wont ya -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author and in the minds of others as well clutch boy. while i know i am far from the group favorite you are not much further up the list. do tell who just about everybody. how amusing. given the comments that keep showing up here i doubt anyone thinks you are generally credible. and those same comments are said about you and lately more often than they are said about me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

could you spin any faster maxi every problem begins somewhere. are you not bright enough to figure even that much out yeah i am but you arent. you claimed the problem was already huge and blamed corporate greed. now you claim the problem is just beginning. what will you claim next yep i said it was and is a huge problem just not effecting a huge number of people yet. i honestly believe that you are dumb enough to say this and mean it. how about never changing the brake fluid and many never do driving the vehicle on the beach and possibly in the surf as seen on tv never cleaning the chassie after heavy salt use on the roads. do i really need to continue yup since most owners never worry about all that you just mentioned and most owners do several if not all you mentioned. yet there hasnt been any proof offered by you that there is a massive brake line problem. and you have no proof that there isnt. there are two cases so far on the nhtsa site and while 1 doesnt have a date the other is at the end of october which was when mine failed. if the problem is just beginning to reveal itself there will be no documentation and you knew that right you originally claimed there was a massive problem caused by corporate greed but you already knew that right so where is the problem lol not every problem makes itself known right away despite your spin. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

i agree. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels i agree but less is not none. if you really want this to work you need to make the prosecutors criminally libel if it is determined later that they hid evidence that would have cleared somebody and if the person was put to death for the crime the prosecutor falsely convicted him / her of then the prosecutor should suffer the same fate because unlike the person killed who was innocent the prosecutor was not. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no not exactly. but you are correct. i just think that with dna being used less innocent people will be railroaded. not saying it wont happen. .

From : tbone

hey folks i saw a dealers advertisement in another state that he could locate just about any used car thru a national locator service. i tried googling but i didnt locate it. any ideas where can i find this company or a dealer near me that uses it .

From : tbone

my 2000 ram 1500 drivers side seat control started blinking when turned on. passenger side works fine. is there anything i could check that would cause this malfunction im sure our own yer toosh heated seat guy will have an answer for you soon.vbg roy .

From : tbone

i agree but less is not none. if you really want this to work you need to make the prosecutors criminally libel if it is determined later that they hid evidence that would have cleared somebody and if the person was put to death for the crime the prosecutor falsely convicted him / her of then the prosecutor should suffer the same fate because unlike the person killed who was innocent the prosecutor was not. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no not exactly. but you are correct. i just think that with dna being used less innocent people will be railroaded. not saying it wont happen. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels you are sadly under the false assumption that both the prosecution and the defense will perform honestly which has been proven time and time again to not always happen. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i can agree to some degree. lately ive been thinking of the people in the that have been cleared after 20 or so years. however looking forward to the future with dna evidence being at the forefront of investigations nowadays seems like...i think less and less innocent people will be put in jail...leaving room for the truly guilty. and...if its definitive that all 25 of the people in the game are indeed guilty then that may not be a bad idea. public hangings hell where do i get my viewing tickets ticketmaster -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels fmbb@sbcglobal.net says... heres my idea of how death row should be........... 2 rows of cells. 25 on each side. a big spinning wheel with the numbers 1 to 50 on it. every hour the wheel get a big spin. if your number comes up........ you lose. as the cell becomes available.... a new player enters the game. since there seems to be no shortage of players.... the game can run 24/7 the wheel of misfortune the reaper death is not a game. let the person be inocent until such time he is found not guilty or guilty. place time limits on appeals and force the upper courts to make room for these appeals on a timely basis. give them one appeal to the state supreme court and one to the us supreme court. give them 6 months to place the appeal and give the courts 2 months to hear the appeal and a max of 30 days between hearing the appeal and giving their opinion. that is 9 months maximum at the state level and 9 months at the federal level. i dont think the govenor should have an opportunity to do anything but watch the process. williams would have been dead almost 20 years by now. my 2 cents worth. fmb only one b in fmb and what about people who are wrongly convicted sometimes it takes 15- 20 years to prove them innocent. of course if the police and prosecutors would do their jobs correctly this would very seldom happen. but you know it has. i dont really care about tookie he did enough stuff to get offed for anyway but you see constantly on tv some stories about some poor bastard who is proven innocent 10-15-20 years after conviction and usually a couple of years of that time is caused by prosecutors dragging their feet or sometimes fighting a dna test. if they are sure of the persons guilt why fight it thats not taking into account the actual times the police frame people and the da hides evidence that clears them. perhaps with the advancement of dna technology laws should be changed to afford immediate testing. theres a local guy here who was sent up for murdering his girlfriend mostly due to the obviously coached testimony of his 3 year old son. after fighting for years and his grandmother protesting daily at the courthouse he got a dna test and like he claimed all along it wasnt him. the da isnt getting go completely as they still refuse to totally clear him saying we arent sure he wasnt involved somehow. they took 14 years away from him he lost everything his son is brainwashed and hates him his health is shot and they dont want to give him any cash for his trouble.. that seems to be happening more and more. seems a lot of it is politiclly driven. sort of clear the case load the elections next month. roy some justice! bdk .

From : max dodge

just started about 4 days ago. sometimes it goes up to 80 or 90 psi then it will drop to midway on the gauge and then all of a sudden it will drop all the way down. today it went to about 50 psi dropped all the way down 3 times within an hours driving time then it comes back up by itself to 50 then when i shut it off and turn it back on it went up halfway dropped down about 10 stayed that way for about a 45 min drive. i appreciate your interest and any ideas you might have. .

From : max dodge

99 dodge dakota slt extended cab. 51k miles. theres a mystery vibration noise that im trying to locate. maybe you can help me find it. i get what sounds like some sort of metallic vibration noise at around 35-43 mph but only after the truck warms up. it sounds like a harmonic whine. it might be something metal vibrating at high rate rubbing against something else thats metal but that s just a guess. its not particularly loud just enough to be annoying and no its not tire hum - its higher pitched than that. the noise seems to be coming from the area just behind the cab where the gas tank is on the drivers side. ive crawled under there several times and havent been able to find anything.i thought maybe it was a heat shield on the gas tank vibrating but i stuffed some rags under them to test and it still did it. the noise only occurs when the truck is in drive. it wont do it at all when in park. if you let off the gas the sound stops so its not a wind-caused noise. i would think maybe the exhaust but the sound seems to be coming from the other side of the truck. any ideas its driving me crazy! thanks todd .

From : tbone

you are sadly under the false assumption that both the prosecution and the defense will perform honestly which has been proven time and time again to not always happen. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i can agree to some degree. lately ive been thinking of the people in the that have been cleared after 20 or so years. however looking forward to the future with dna evidence being at the forefront of investigations nowadays seems like...i think less and less innocent people will be put in jail...leaving room for the truly guilty. and...if its definitive that all 25 of the people in the game are indeed guilty then that may not be a bad idea. public hangings hell where do i get my viewing tickets ticketmaster -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels fmbb@sbcglobal.net says... heres my idea of how death row should be........... 2 rows of cells. 25 on each side. a big spinning wheel with the numbers 1 to 50 on it. every hour the wheel get a big spin. if your number comes up........ you lose. as the cell becomes available.... a new player enters the game. since there seems to be no shortage of players.... the game can run 24/7 the wheel of misfortune the reaper death is not a game. let the person be inocent until such time he is found not guilty or guilty. place time limits on appeals and force the upper courts to make room for these appeals on a timely basis. give them one appeal to the state supreme court and one to the us supreme court. give them 6 months to place the appeal and give the courts 2 months to hear the appeal and a max of 30 days between hearing the appeal and giving their opinion. that is 9 months maximum at the state level and 9 months at the federal level. i dont think the govenor should have an opportunity to do anything but watch the process. williams would have been dead almost 20 years by now. my 2 cents worth. fmb only one b in fmb and what about people who are wrongly convicted sometimes it takes 15- 20 years to prove them innocent. of course if the police and prosecutors would do their jobs correctly this would very seldom happen. but you know it has. i dont really care about tookie he did enough stuff to get offed for anyway but you see constantly on tv some stories about some poor bastard who is proven innocent 10-15-20 years after conviction and usually a couple of years of that time is caused by prosecutors dragging their feet or sometimes fighting a dna test. if they are sure of the persons guilt why fight it thats not taking into account the actual times the police frame people and the da hides evidence that clears them. perhaps with the advancement of dna technology laws should be changed to afford immediate testing. theres a local guy here who was sent up for murdering his girlfriend mostly due to the obviously coached testimony of his 3 year old son. after fighting for years and his grandmother protesting daily at the courthouse he got a dna test and like he claimed all along it wasnt him. the da isnt getting go completely as they still refuse to totally clear him saying we arent sure he wasnt involved somehow. they took 14 years away from him he lost everything his son is brainwashed and hates him his health is shot and they dont want to give him any cash for his trouble.. that seems to be happening more and more. seems a lot of it is politiclly driven. sort of clear the case load the elections next month. roy some justice! bdk .

From : tbone

on tue 13 dec 2005 133828 -0600 xclimation prefer@privacy.com wrote the american people are barbarian. -- |;ometis barbarians destroyed rome right... and the good folks that crashed planes into the towers were civilized gentleman... talk is cheap.. and even cheaper when you dont have the balls to put your mane behind it.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : tbone

the only issue not resolved at this point is when the germans bombed pearl harbor. have fun figuring that out. since it never happened... sure it did. you just dont understand when. but youre on a roll..... back to the double posting i see and just after you jump on me for doing it lol. if you think so then back it up or shut up as you say to me. i dont give a damn if you quadruple post i just like to see you get wadded up about it. sure ya do or you wouldnt have mentioned it. and yes i think you are on a roll. its not over till we say its over. really who is the we that you are talking about so when did the germans bomb pearl harbor never! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

tom and i know exactly when the germans bombed pearl harbor. yea sure you do. yeah we do. lol only in your own mind maxi boy nah john landis mind has it too.....but youre on a roll...... only in your own mind tommy boy....... and in the minds of others as well clutch boy. while i know i am far from the group favorite you are not much further up the list. do tell who just about everybody. and i dont particularly keep any sort of list or care where i am on any list. yes you do. and you still dont know when the germans bombed pearl harbor. and neither do you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

hey you arent here in the us and everyone here is very happy about it. mind your own business. the american people are barbarian. -- |;ometis .

From : tbone

change the trans solenoid. can anyone tell me what i need to do drop the pan and is it right there or do i have to drop the valve body also. nope just the pan. youll have to remove three valve-body bolts and a couple of torx screws holding the governor plate on then you can remove the solenoid. .

From : miles

i hear ya budd....seems that the big foot need to come down harder on criminals imho. especially child molesters. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels then you wouldnt want to know what i would do with other criminals if the choice were mine. budd .

From : miles

heres my idea of how death row should be........... 2 rows of cells. 25 on each side. a big spinning wheel with the numbers 1 to 50 on it. every hour the wheel get a big spin. if your number comes up........ you lose. as the cell becomes available.... a new player enters the game. since there seems to be no shortage of players.... the game can run 24/7 the wheel of misfortune the reaper metis wrote the american people are barbarian. and your opinion matters because........ -- .bob on order 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : tbone

give it time pinhead mine just failed about a month ago and the ops truck probably just failed. ok so youve gone from this being an overriding problem with many trucks involved to... the problem is just beginning and a veritable epidemic of complaints from 1997 dodge ram owners will begin rolling in any time now.......... wait for it.......... ok not now but........... now.......... alright maybe a bit longer..... also many owners will not complain after 8 years as many are no longer the original owners and would probably blame the failure on abuse from the original or previous owner. which would be defined as an owner climbing under the truck and hitting his brake lines with a hammer no matter how ya cut it your lame claim is getting weaker each time you state it..... unless of course you follow miles advice and get actual documentation on the problem from nhtsa or another reputable source. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author tbone wrote it was not just my personal results but for the metal lines to fail in less than 8 years shows some real second rate materials being used and with the rear bearing problems and delamination problems that many have posted about in here as they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... if there were that many cases it would show up on nhtsas list of owner complaints. it does not. if it is not just your say so then prove it. show me some real figures other than your own since you say there are so many. like you say if it walks like a duck then show me the quack...oh wait you already quacked. give it time pinhead mine just failed about a month ago and the ops truck probably just failed. also many owners will not complain after 8 years as many are no longer the original owners and would probably blame the failure on abuse from the original or previous owner. you btw should be the last person to ask for figures on anything since you have yet to back up a single point you tried to make ever. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

i hear ya budd....seems that the big foot need to come down harder on criminals imho. especially child molesters. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels then you wouldnt want to know what i would do with other criminals if the choice were mine. budd sure would be a better deterant if we could knock the wait time down from 24 years to 24 months. it is a definate deterant for williams though he wont be doing his gangster crap anymore. here is a link to gov schwarzeneggers decision... http//www.10.net//williams-execution/williams-clemency-decision.pdf i wonder how his cell wives feel fmb only one b in fmb .

From : max dodge

im feedup with the far left and the bleeding heart liberals. people need to be hels acountable for their actions. why...because we put murders where they belong -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works ice angels the american people are barbarian. -- |;ometis .

From : tbone

tom and i know exactly when the germans bombed pearl harbor. yea sure you do. yeah we do. lol you otoh dont know squat about brake lines dirt and rust on an under carriage scientific method or corporate profits let alone when the germans bombed pearl harbor. and yet i prove you wrong time and time again. only in your own mind tommy boy....... -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author tom and i know exactly when the germans bombed pearl harbor. yea sure you do. you otoh dont know squat about brake lines dirt and rust on an under carriage scientific method or corporate profits let alone when the germans bombed pearl harbor. and yet i prove you wrong time and time again. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

my 2000 ram 1500 drivers side seat control started blinking when turned on. passenger side works fine. is there anything i could check that would cause this malfunction .

From : tbone

tbone wrote in order to call it a lie you need to prove me wrong and you have yet to do that but dont worry ill wait while you dance. you first have to prove yourself right or at least give some credible evidence of such. instead all you offer is your one single puny personal results. it was not just my personal results but for the metal lines to fail in less than 8 years shows some real second rate materials being used and with the rear bearing problems and delamination problems that many have posted about in here as they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... then claim youre right about making generalized claims about an entire company or brand for a given year. lol. some funny stuff right there! it is what it is miles even if you dont want to hear it. you have no credibility tbone so making a bonehead statement and then demanding to be proven wrong is absurd. i really hate to burst your bubble there miles but you really fair no better in the credibility department. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

tbone wrote it was not just my personal results but for the metal lines to fail in less than 8 years shows some real second rate materials being used and with the rear bearing problems and delamination problems that many have posted about in here as they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... if there were that many cases it would show up on nhtsas list of owner complaints. it does not. if it is not just your say so then prove it. show me some real figures other than your own since you say there are so many. like you say if it walks like a duck then show me the quack...oh wait you already quacked. give it time pinhead mine just failed about a month ago and the ops truck probably just failed. also many owners will not complain after 8 years as many are no longer the original owners and would probably blame the failure on abuse from the original or previous owner. you btw should be the last person to ask for figures on anything since you have yet to back up a single point you tried to make ever. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

coley wrote my car makes a humming noise but only when i turn my wheel to the right . any ideas have dodge durango 2002 4x2 hey coley i just bought a 2005 durango last week and mine is also making a buzzing noise when turning to the right. it seems to be mostly when i accelerate from a stop. one thing that happened to me was the steering locked up on me while making a right hand turn. luckily i was in the bank so there was not traffic. i turned the car off and then back on and it was fine but it went right back to the dealer. they found that there was a burr on the rack and pinion system and replaced the entire thing. i thought for sure that it would also fix the buzzing but it did not. so i am calling them tomorrow. it does not sound very important almost like a plastic piece buzzing from engine vibration so i am going to turn up the radio until they fix it let me know what you find out ill do the same. woody -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/durango-02-humming-noise-wheel-turns-ftopict149404.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=720474 .

From : tbone

thanks tom andy change the trans solenoid. can anyone tell me what i need to do drop the pan and is it right there or do i have to drop the valve body also. nope just the pan. youll have to remove three valve-body bolts and a couple of torx screws holding the governor plate on then you can remove the solenoid. .

From : miles

the spare tire on the drivers side might be in the way of the mirror. nice looking jeep i like the open roof. yonzie willy ddumbass@bendoveryahoo.com wrote i know this is a dodge group but jeep is almost a dodge g has anybody seen any *new* information if jeep is going to make this concept vehicle http//www.jeep.com/autoshow//gladiator.html or http//www.jeep.com/autoshow/gladiator/gallery.html im not a big jeep guy but i really like the looks of this truck. im hoping one of youse guys out there may have heard something other than what theyve had on the internet for a past 6 months or so. regards slickwilly .

From : aarcuda69062

tbone wrote again i never said anything different. i have just noticed it more in the end of chrysler and early dc products. i havent. i also question your quickfire predictable reason that its always some rich bastards greed that causes product problems. sure any company tries to cut costs. thats business. sometimes they make bad designs and when they do they pay the price. usually the errors are corrected. when theyre not sales take a nose dive and the company goes belly up. when will you learn the vast majority of business owners are not rich greedy bastards .

From : max dodge

hey could ya post this again i didnt get it the first two times...... only one dancing is you.... same steps same out of time music. dealing in woulda coulda shoulda is easy. bring some facts not assumptions and far flung reaches of fantasy and youll be doing some sort of work. ive seen many vehicles all sorts of makes and models with brake line failure due to rust. all brake line is made to withstand certain pressures otherwise there is no difference in the steel used to make it. plainly stated you are grasping for suppositions making claims and lacking facts. fact is brake line rusts because it is steel. conditions dictate its longevity not materials. if you think your conditions between vehicles are close you should check out the similarity of the steel from one brake line to another. i guarantee its closer than your supposedly equal conditions for the vehicles. the only issue not resolved at this point is when the germans bombed pearl harbor. have fun figuring that out. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author where is it wrong did germany have control of the company yet and if not..... i understand its humor and is often used when one cannot backup their previous claims. better humor than more bullshit and outright lies when you make a claim you cant back up. in order to call it a lie you need to prove me wrong and you have yet to do that but dont worry ill wait while you dance. first you made the claim that it was dodge using junk brake lines to increase profits. then once called on that claim you decide to blame it on ownership be it german or american and throw a bunch of well it could be.... crap. really who called me on it and how yea i made the claim and none of you have proven me wrong or it impossible. i gave valid possibilities while all you did was spin and make a fool out of yourself once again by dancing for me. face it steel brake line is... well steel brake line. its mild steel. its the diameter that it is its all made the same and id bet there are less than ten suppliers in the world if that many. lol brake line comes in different diameters as well as materials and while there may be a limited number of suppliers i would bet that each one has different grades of material and related costs for them. for those that think certain vehicles have a problem with the brake lines i say hogwash. its steel brake line and its under a vehicle in water dirt and generally ugly circumstances it will rust. all vehicles should be checked regularly and in pa inspection requires it. so what. i have yet to have a vehicle besides this one lose a metal brake line just like this was the first vehicle that i owned that lost a rear diff bearing and the only one with this delaminating problem all cost cutting quality control issues. since the lines will be exposed to the conditions that you listed they should be made of a material that can deal with it and up to this vehicle every other one that i owned did including my 18 year old dart my 23 year old falcon and my 22 year old t/a. now go on with your argument that mild steel is different somehow and that pa has different regs and whatever other stupid diversionary tactics you can barf up. if you think that all mild steel is of the same quality and corrosion resistance then you are an idiot. hell im arguing with someone that called corrosion decomposition lol. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

well gee i guess that im wrong after all 97 and 95 are the same year right hey wait a minute you tried to fool me they are not the same year but after all nothing ever changes from one year to the next right tom!!! thats right tbutt they change everything one year to the next just to fuck you up moron. .

From : tbone

again i never said anything different. i have just noticed it more in the end of chrysler and early dc products. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote i never said that nissan was perfect. everybody builds a lemon every now and then. i never said that all dc builds is junk either. i dont have much to complain about with my truck but it is not perfect and some of the flaws it has are due to cost cutting. same as most any other brand of any other product. .

From : miles

some links... http//64.90.169.191/applications/automotive/brake.html http//64.90.169.191/applications/automotive/931028-automotive-bra ke-tube.html http//www.fedhillusa.com/pages/709975/index.htm .

From : miles

hey could ya post this again i didnt get it the first two times...... sure if you really need me to. only one dancing is you.... same steps same out of time music. dealing in woulda coulda shoulda is easy. bring some facts not assumptions and far flung reaches of fantasy and youll be doing some sort of work. the facts are there my 97 rotted the brake lines and so did the other poster. the other people that said theirs were fine were both 95s. while it is not an outstanding number it is still 2 more than you have. ive seen many vehicles all sorts of makes and models with brake line failure due to rust. sure you have just like you saw all of those vehicles apply pressure to the tb on an hydraulic chutch due to air in the system when the system had nothing else wrong with it lol. all brake line is made to withstand certain pressures otherwise there is no difference in the steel used to make it. hahahahaha care to back this up they need to comply with minimum strength and possible corrosion resistance minimums and to go higher and / or last longer costs more money. there are many grades of steel rated in both makup qc and cost that can meet these standards and if you think differently.... plainly stated you are grasping for suppositions making claims and lacking facts. i have some facts backing me up. you otoh are completely full of shit. you seem to think that all steel is the same but have nothing to back this pure bullshit up. fact is brake line rusts because it is steel. and there are many grades of steel that can meet the minimum strength requirements that have different corrosion resistance at different costs. conditions dictate its longevity not materials. complete bullshit but feel free to prove this ill wait and laugh. if you think your conditions between vehicles are close you should check out the similarity of the steel from one brake line to another. i guarantee its closer than your supposedly equal conditions for the vehicles. i dont have the labratory equipment available to do that and neither do you but i dont have to the proof is in the pudding. the only issue not resolved at this point is when the germans bombed pearl harbor. have fun figuring that out. since it never happened... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote in order to call it a lie you need to prove me wrong and you have yet to do that but dont worry ill wait while you dance. you first have to prove yourself right or at least give some credible evidence of such. instead all you offer is your one single puny personal results. then claim youre right about making generalized claims about an entire company or brand for a given year. lol. some funny stuff right there! you have no credibility tbone so making a bonehead statement and then demanding to be proven wrong is absurd. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote some funny crap that was snipped! that was just too priceless tbone. im sure others got a good laugh too. .

From : max dodge

tbone wrote i never said that nissan was perfect. everybody builds a lemon every now and then. i never said that all dc builds is junk either. i dont have much to complain about with my truck but it is not perfect and some of the flaws it has are due to cost cutting. same as most any other brand of any other product. .

From : tbone

tom and i know exactly when the germans bombed pearl harbor. you otoh dont know squat about brake lines dirt and rust on an under carriage scientific method or corporate profits let alone when the germans bombed pearl harbor. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author they dont have to be exactly the same max as it is impossible to ever get exactly the same conditions ever. to make the claims you are attemtping to make yes mr. wizard the conditions have to be the same. its called the scientific method. once again you prove that you dont know shit. my claim was for general endurance over an extended period and for that the conditions only need to be similar and they were. actually the brake lines on the nissan are subjected to more abuse from the elements and for nearly twice as long and yet .... in this case all they need to be is close and since the nissan and even my ta were exposed to similar conditions for far longer they dont even have to be all that close. the nissan lines held up 8 years longer and the trans am lines held up 17 years longer so we are not talking a few months or even a year where you could say that the slight differences had any real effect on longevity. i think i see the problem here.... a trans am owner...... all ego and no hp. the car was free but ill agree all show and no go but it did look good and handle well. sorry maxi but this is just more of your senseless spin. please explain how arodynamics destroyed the lines or this magical mudd for that matter. maybe you use water in your brake lines since you now claim they are supposed to hold it but ill stick with brake fluid. vehicle aerodynamics on the underside are typically why dirt and water get into places they should not if the vehicle were sitting still. its not rocket science but it seems to have escaped you nonetheless. the lines are not protected so there is no place where the lines run where dirt and water can not or should not go and the lines should be made out of a material that can deal with it. the same is true on the nissan and in that case they are much closer to the ground and salt spray as well as dirt and water on wet roads and yet they survived for 8 more years and counting. similar exposure and nearly twice the life so far care to dance again reading a new skill that you have yet to master their maxie i am not the only one with this problem as i am responding to someone else with the same year truck that has a much worse condition of it than my truck did. actually you said the same crap about the bad bearings in the 9 1/4 rear. yup because i. among many others dont believe that big business goes out of its way to rip off you and a select few others. i never said that they did either. they do go out of their way to increase profits especially if a takeover is possible and the customer is not their primary concern that would be the stock holders and even then the board members come first. good luck figuring out when the germans bombed pearl harbor. you had better offer that to tom he made the claim. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

they dont have to be exactly the same max as it is impossible to ever get exactly the same conditions ever. to make the claims you are attemtping to make yes mr. wizard the conditions have to be the same. its called the scientific method. once again you prove that you dont know shit. my claim was for general endurance over an extended period and for that the conditions only need to be similar and they were. actually the brake lines on the nissan are subjected to more abuse from the elements and for nearly twice as long and yet .... in this case all they need to be is close and since the nissan and even my ta were exposed to similar conditions for far longer they dont even have to be all that close. the nissan lines held up 8 years longer and the trans am lines held up 17 years longer so we are not talking a few months or even a year where you could say that the slight differences had any real effect on longevity. i think i see the problem here.... a trans am owner...... all ego and no hp. the car was free but ill agree all show and no go but it did look good and handle well. sorry maxi but this is just more of your senseless spin. please explain how arodynamics destroyed the lines or this magical mudd for that matter. maybe you use water in your brake lines since you now claim they are supposed to hold it but ill stick with brake fluid. vehicle aerodynamics on the underside are typically why dirt and water get into places they should not if the vehicle were sitting still. its not rocket science but it seems to have escaped you nonetheless. the lines are not protected so there is no place where the lines run where dirt and water can not or should not go and the lines should be made out of a material that can deal with it. the same is true on the nissan and in that case they are much closer to the ground and salt spray as well as dirt and water on wet roads and yet they survived for 8 more years and counting. similar exposure and nearly twice the life so far care to dance again reading a new skill that you have yet to master their maxie i am not the only one with this problem as i am responding to someone else with the same year truck that has a much worse condition of it than my truck did. actually you said the same crap about the bad bearings in the 9 1/4 rear. yup because i. among many others dont believe that big business goes out of its way to rip off you and a select few others. i never said that they did either. they do go out of their way to increase profits especially if a takeover is possible and the customer is not their primary concern that would be the stock holders and even then the board members come first. good luck figuring out when the germans bombed pearl harbor. you had better offer that to tom he made the claim. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

where is it wrong did germany have control of the company yet and if not..... i understand its humor and is often used when one cannot backup their previous claims. better humor than more bullshit and outright lies when you make a claim you cant back up. in order to call it a lie you need to prove me wrong and you have yet to do that but dont worry ill wait while you dance. first you made the claim that it was dodge using junk brake lines to increase profits. then once called on that claim you decide to blame it on ownership be it german or american and throw a bunch of well it could be.... crap. really who called me on it and how yea i made the claim and none of you have proven me wrong or it impossible. i gave valid possibilities while all you did was spin and make a fool out of yourself once again by dancing for me. face it steel brake line is... well steel brake line. its mild steel. its the diameter that it is its all made the same and id bet there are less than ten suppliers in the world if that many. lol brake line comes in different diameters as well as materials and while there may be a limited number of suppliers i would bet that each one has different grades of material and related costs for them. for those that think certain vehicles have a problem with the brake lines i say hogwash. its steel brake line and its under a vehicle in water dirt and generally ugly circumstances it will rust. all vehicles should be checked regularly and in pa inspection requires it. so what. i have yet to have a vehicle besides this one lose a metal brake line just like this was the first vehicle that i owned that lost a rear diff bearing and the only one with this delaminating problem all cost cutting quality control issues. since the lines will be exposed to the conditions that you listed they should be made of a material that can deal with it and up to this vehicle every other one that i owned did including my 18 year old dart my 23 year old falcon and my 22 year old t/a. now go on with your argument that mild steel is different somehow and that pa has different regs and whatever other stupid diversionary tactics you can barf up. if you think that all mild steel is of the same quality and corrosion resistance then you are an idiot. hell im arguing with someone that called corrosion decomposition lol. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

our 1996 dodge van heater blower motor has an intermittent fault that is on occasion preventing/delaying the blower from running. ive traced the problem to the blower relay which is failing to pick-up and suspect a faulty relay or intermit connection to the relay coil. however i have yet to locate this relay the haynes manual indicates the power distribution center but it is not. ive tested the blower motor by connecting directly to the battery and it works fine. can someone tell me where this blower relay is ive spent hours checking the operation of every relay. has anyone else had this intermittent problem with the blower relay any help appreciated!!! ron .

From : max dodge

i never said that nissan was perfect. everybody builds a lemon every now and then. i never said that all dc builds is junk either. i dont have much to complain about with my truck but it is not perfect and some of the flaws it has are due to cost cutting. i think one of the flaws it has is the nut behind the wheel. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i never said that nissan was perfect. everybody builds a lemon every now and then. i never said that all dc builds is junk either. i dont have much to complain about with my truck but it is not perfect and some of the flaws it has are due to cost cutting. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote doesnt have to be but usually is just like the sub-standard couplers on the steering shaft lower quality bearings in the 9 1/4 rear under designed ball joints on the dakota one piece in-tank pump and filter..... talk to anyone who owns a nissan armada and then tell me how nissan uses only top quality parts. .

From : max dodge

thanks for all your replies. right now the truck is still in the shop. we had it towed to the shop because on the phone the mechanic said if it was the fuel pump which he was sure it was it would be covered by our extended warranty. but now the mechanic says the fuel pump is fine. he says he cant start it it turns over but wont start. now says we need new spark plugs wires rotor and cap. i might have believed him if i it werent for the fact that i changed the spark plugs about 8 months ago. he said he knew that but we didnt put in the correct ones dodge factory plugs this conversation with the mechanic was between my wife and him by the way. how could my truck run for the past 8 months if i had installed the wrong plugs... a lot of people i talk to feel it is the fuel filter. origin of problem. the odometer was around 270 when my wife took the truck out for some kind of errand. i usually get 300 miles per fill up. she drove about 3 miles and starting losing power. she had to pull over. she knew it wasnt good so she turned around to go home. she only had enough power to get it up to 20 mph the whole way home 3 miles. i have run out gas twice with this truck and i got the exact same symptoms lose of power. but the only difference in her episode was that she was able to go a much farther distance. in my two cases i lost power drove for another 500 yards and could go no further couldnt start it again. out of gas. all this took place while i was out of town. her father put about five gallons in it and it wouldnt start. it would turn over but wouldnt start. so we had it towed to the shop. i dont really believe we need the new wires plugs rotor and cap. i think its the fuel filter clogged partially with some junk that was in the tank. thats why some gas was getting through and allowing my wife to make it back home. should i just tell the mechanic to change the fuel filter and go from there see if that works dont you think he should have suggested that in the first place any help would be great. thanks could be just the crankshaft position sensor. but what do i know. coasty .

From : tom lawrence

this has happened a few times now and i am wondernig if anyone else has experienced it. while driving down the highway usually in high wind the truck will act like someone reached up and shut the key off. after a few seconds and a pop or two on the gas it comes back to life with no indication except for some additional lights on the dash that anything has happened. usually those lights will disappear the next time i start the truck. some time ago i got a response from someone that had me unplug something under the hood i cant remember what now dry it off apply some dielectric compound and plug back in. any thoughts before i spend a bunch of $$ for someone else to tell me thanks .

From : tbone

is this really the best that you can do and completely incorrect at that. zee germans did not own dodge in 97 its called sarcastic humor... you were the one that made this claim tbone but hey wait didnt they merge become tbone acquired by daimler shortly after 97 and the tbone better they look higher profits the more money tbone they board members get where is it wrong did germany have control of the company yet and if not..... i understand its humor and is often used when one cannot backup their previous claims. and when exactly did germany bomb pearl harbor wow.... if you cant figure that one out well... i aint explaining it to you. yea because you cant and this was humor as well only not being used to cover previous posts. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

is this really the best that you can do and completely incorrect at that. zee germans did not own dodge in 97 its called sarcastic humor... you were the one that made this claim tbone but hey wait didnt they merge become tbone acquired by daimler shortly after 97 and the tbone better they look higher profits the more money tbone they board members get and when exactly did germany bomb pearl harbor wow.... if you cant figure that one out well... i aint explaining it to you. .

From : tom lawrence

aerodynamics huh lol. yeah typically we drive through air. you probably drive through hot air. only when driving near you maxi. had both vehicles nissan much longer parked in the same driveway driven on the same roads under similar conditions. there is no way you can guarantee that both vehicles saw exactly the same conditions and thus cannot compare accurately the rust time from one to the other. you claim to know science perhaps you should observe the proper method. they dont have to be exactly the same max as it is impossible to ever get exactly the same conditions ever. in this case all they need to be is close and since the nissan and even my ta were exposed to similar conditions for far longer they dont even have to be all that close. the nissan lines held up 8 years longer and the trans am lines held up 17 years longer so we are not talking a few months or even a year where you could say that the slight differences had any real effect on longevity. actually the nissan went through worse since it delt with the salt covered slushy roads while the truck dealt with fresh snow most of the time with its over a foot ground clearence compared to the nissans few inches. lol so maybe the truck went through mud no more than the nissan would have went through since i dont off-road with this truck. the lines on both vehicles are subject to direct exposure in places and yet the nissans are still holding up just fine. care to try again i could use the laugh. nah you try again your claims dont hold water let alone rust in that water they are supposed to hold. sorry maxi but this is just more of your senseless spin. please explain how arodynamics destroyed the lines or this magical mudd for that matter. maybe you use water in your brake lines since you now claim they are supposed to hold it but ill stick with brake fluid. has to be quality control and an effort to rip off the customer..... doesnt have to be but usually is just like the sub-standard couplers on the steering shaft lower quality bearings in the 9 1/4 rear under designed ball joints on the dakota one piece in-tank pump and filter..... and the brake lines that mysteriously rusted only on your truck out of all those on here. reading a new skill that you have yet to master their maxie i am not the only one with this problem as i am responding to someone else with the same year truck that has a much worse condition of it than my truck did. actually you said the same crap about the bad bearings in the 9 1/4 rear. doesnt really matter tom most of us know you are full of shit somehow this just proves it. funny that has been said of you as well and your crap here proves it as well... aerodynamics lol! you are welcome to try and prove the two vehicles saw exactly the same conditions but we know they didnt. its impossible. no shit sherlock i never said otherwise but we are not talking a few months here we are talking years and many of them and in that case the conditions dont have to be exact only similar. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : joe blow

tbone wrote well gee i guess that im wrong after all 97 and 95 are the same year ahh...those rich greedy republican business owners are only greedy certain years eh .

From : max dodge

tbone wrote doesnt have to be but usually is just like the sub-standard couplers on the steering shaft lower quality bearings in the 9 1/4 rear under designed ball joints on the dakota one piece in-tank pump and filter..... talk to anyone who owns a nissan armada and then tell me how nissan uses only top quality parts. .

From : tbone

how could my truck run for the past 8 months if i had installed the wrong plugs... simple - it couldnt. even if you put in the wrong plugs ie. incorrect heat range it would still start. a lot of people i talk to feel it is the fuel filter. if its a fuel problem the engine will fire up with some starter fluid sprayed into the intake. thats a quick and simple test to isolate the problem. to make it back home. should i just tell the mechanic to change the fuel filter and go from there see if that works dont you think he should have suggested that in the first place well changing the fuel filter is a much bigger job than throwing some plugs and a cap at it - as its in the tank and really isnt meant to be a servicable item. what he should do is hook a fuel pressure gauge to the fuel rail and verify fuel pressure. id then use the fuel pressure gauge discharge feature and make sure theres adequate fuel flow. if the pressure is down or the pressure drops off when discharged and the flow slows to a trickle then id be reasonably sure its a fuel pump-related problem and go ahead and drop the tank. if the pressure and flow look good and the engine fires up with starter fluid id look to an electrical problem preventing the fuel injectors from firing. if the engine will not fire with starter fluid then id start looking at the ignition system - ie. coil distributor cap etc. first step here is to pull a plug and see if its getting spark. .

From : tbone

thanks for all your replies. right now the truck is still in the shop. we had it towed to the shop because on the phone the mechanic said if it was the fuel pump which he was sure it was it would be covered by our extended warranty. but now the mechanic says the fuel pump is fine. he says he cant start it it turns over but wont start. now says we need new spark plugs wires rotor and cap. i might have believed him if i it werent for the fact that i changed the spark plugs about 8 months ago. he said he knew that but we didnt put in the correct ones dodge factory plugs this conversation with the mechanic was between my wife and him by the way. how could my truck run for the past 8 months if i had installed the wrong plugs... a lot of people i talk to feel it is the fuel filter. origin of problem. the odometer was around 270 when my wife took the truck out for some kind of errand. i usually get 300 miles per fill up. she drove about 3 miles and starting losing power. she had to pull over. she knew it wasnt good so she turned around to go home. she only had enough power to get it up to 20 mph the whole way home 3 miles. i have run out gas twice with this truck and i got the exact same symptoms lose of power. but the only difference in her episode was that she was able to go a much farther distance. in my two cases i lost power drove for another 500 yards and could go no further couldnt start it again. out of gas. all this took place while i was out of town. her father put about five gallons in it and it wouldnt start. it would turn over but wouldnt start. so we had it towed to the shop. i dont really believe we need the new wires plugs rotor and cap. i think its the fuel filter clogged partially with some junk that was in the tank. thats why some gas was getting through and allowing my wife to make it back home. should i just tell the mechanic to change the fuel filter and go from there see if that works dont you think he should have suggested that in the first place any help would be great. thanks what exactly do you mean by turn over. does the engine actually try and start or is it just cranking. what you need to do is question the mechanic as to how he knows that the pump is ok. if he did a fuel pressure and flow test about the only valid way then tell him that you want to see the results. the fuel filter on your truck is not replaceable as it is part of the pump which is probably why he didnt suggest replacing it and the pump is an expensive part which is why he is trying to avoid replacing that until all other avenues have been traveled and money made doing it. the wrong plugs heat range could cause these conditions but probably not as suddenly as you claim the conditions happened. if they were too hot a plug they would slowly burn up and too cold and they would crud up and foul both causing a loss of power but you should have felt it getting worse over time. did you get a check engine light as bad plugs should start setting misfire codes as they began to fail and would probably have gotten them before you felt the power loss my rotor and cap went over 100000 and were still working fine when i replaced them and a few bad wires would not stop the engine from starting unless one of them happens to be the coil wire it would just run like crap. i would have him remove one of the plugs and show you exactly what failed on it or tell him that if he is sure that is the problem to change the parts but if it doesnt fix the problem then he eats the cost and justify it by saying that you can throw parts at the problem yourself and do it for a lot less money than he will charge you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

well gee i guess that im wrong after all 97 and 95 are the same year right hey wait a minute you tried to fool me they are not the same year but after all nothing ever changes from one year to the next right tom!!! thats right tbutt they change everything one year to the next just to fuck you up moron. did you sneak past your mommy to play with her computer again grow up asshole. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

i never said that nissan was perfect. everybody builds a lemon every now and then. i never said that all dc builds is junk either. i dont have much to complain about with my truck but it is not perfect and some of the flaws it has are due to cost cutting. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote doesnt have to be but usually is just like the sub-standard couplers on the steering shaft lower quality bearings in the 9 1/4 rear under designed ball joints on the dakota one piece in-tank pump and filter..... talk to anyone who owns a nissan armada and then tell me how nissan uses only top quality parts. .

From : miles

thanks for all your replies. right now the truck is still in the shop. we had it towed to the shop because on the phone the mechanic said if it was the fuel pump which he was sure it was it would be covered by our extended warranty. but now the mechanic says the fuel pump is fine. he says he cant start it it turns over but wont start. now says we need new spark plugs wires rotor and cap. i might have believed him if i it werent for the fact that i changed the spark plugs about 8 months ago. he said he knew that but we didnt put in the correct ones dodge factory plugs this conversation with the mechanic was between my wife and him by the way. how could my truck run for the past 8 months if i had installed the wrong plugs... a lot of people i talk to feel it is the fuel filter. origin of problem. the odometer was around 270 when my wife took the truck out for some kind of errand. i usually get 300 miles per fill up. she drove about 3 miles and starting losing power. she had to pull over. she knew it wasnt good so she turned around to go home. she only had enough power to get it up to 20 mph the whole way home 3 miles. i have run out gas twice with this truck and i got the exact same symptoms lose of power. but the only difference in her episode was that she was able to go a much farther distance. in my two cases i lost power drove for another 500 yards and could go no further couldnt start it again. out of gas. all this took place while i was out of town. her father put about five gallons in it and it wouldnt start. it would turn over but wouldnt start. so we had it towed to the shop. i dont really believe we need the new wires plugs rotor and cap. i think its the fuel filter clogged partially with some junk that was in the tank. thats why some gas was getting through and allowing my wife to make it back home. should i just tell the mechanic to change the fuel filter and go from there see if that works dont you think he should have suggested that in the first place any help would be great. thanks .

From : roy

labanz wrote when using 4 wheel lock mode it seems to run fine until i slow down to... maybe turn into parking space. the transmission seems to jerk and it takes more gas to get truck to move like the brakes are on. it seems like a wheel slips too. any ideas thats very normal when you try to use 4wd lock on dry pavement. things are gonna bind up and possibly break. use 4wd lock mode only on snowy icy muddy dirt or other slippery surfaces...never on dry pavement. .

From : tbone

aerodynamics huh lol. yeah typically we drive through air. you probably drive through hot air. had both vehicles nissan much longer parked in the same driveway driven on the same roads under similar conditions. there is no way you can guarantee that both vehicles saw exactly the same conditions and thus cannot compare accurately the rust time from one to the other. you claim to know science perhaps you should observe the proper method. actually the nissan went through worse since it delt with the salt covered slushy roads while the truck dealt with fresh snow most of the time with its over a foot ground clearence compared to the nissans few inches. lol so maybe the truck went through mud the lines on both vehicles are subject to direct exposure in places and yet the nissans are still holding up just fine. care to try again i could use the laugh. nah you try again your claims dont hold water let alone rust in that water they are supposed to hold. has to be quality control and an effort to rip off the customer..... doesnt have to be but usually is just like the sub-standard couplers on the steering shaft lower quality bearings in the 9 1/4 rear under designed ball joints on the dakota one piece in-tank pump and filter..... and the brake lines that mysteriously rusted only on your truck out of all those on here. doesnt really matter tom most of us know you are full of shit somehow this just proves it. you are welcome to try and prove the two vehicles saw exactly the same conditions but we know they didnt. its impossible. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author had to do the same thing only 1 for me so far same year and less miles. funny how my 89 nissan still has its original steel lines and there just fine. i guess that its just another dc or at the time chrysler method of increasing profits at the customers expense. yup couldnt have anything to do with the dozens of other variables like conditions design aerodynamics under the truck etc. aerodynamics huh lol. had both vehicles nissan much longer parked in the same driveway driven on the same roads under similar conditions. actually the nissan went through worse since it delt with the salt covered slushy roads while the truck dealt with fresh snow most of the time with its over a foot ground clearence compared to the nissans few inches. the lines on both vehicles are subject to direct exposure in places and yet the nissans are still holding up just fine. care to try again i could use the laugh. has to be quality control and an effort to rip off the customer..... doesnt have to be but usually is just like the sub-standard couplers on the steering shaft lower quality bearings in the 9 1/4 rear under designed ball joints on the dakota one piece in-tank pump and filter..... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

yup couldnt have anything to do with the dozens of other variables like conditions design aerodynamics under the truck etc. funny how my 95 lines in just as crappy weather have managed to hold out for over 100k with my just replacing the flex lines as a matter of pm rather than necessity. well gee i guess that im wrong after all 97 and 95 are the same year right hey wait a minute you tried to fool me they are not the same year but after all nothing ever changes from one year to the next right tom!!! funny but the 93 doesnt look like mine and the steering wheel on the 98 doesnt have those damn horn buttons like my 97 does so i guess that things do change but there would never be a reason to make changes to increase profits now would there. but hey wait didnt they merge become acquired by daimler shortly after 97 and the better they look higher profits the more money they board members get but we all know that these things only take a few weeks from conception to hammer out and the boards only concern is customer happiness even at their personal cost right tom -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : denny

when using 4 wheel lock mode it seems to run fine until i slow down to... maybe turn into parking space. the transmission seems to jerk and it takes more gas to get truck to move like the brakes are on. it seems like a wheel slips too. any ideas yup take it out of 4lock on dry pavement. your going to break it. roy .

From : tom lawrence

when using 4 wheel lock mode it seems to run fine until i slow down to... maybe turn into parking space. the transmission seems to jerk and it takes more gas to get truck to move like the brakes are on. it seems like a wheel slips too. any ideas thanks mike .

From : miles

yup couldnt have anything to do with the dozens of other variables like conditions design aerodynamics under the truck etc. funny how my 95 lines in just as crappy weather have managed to hold out for over 100k with my just replacing the flex lines as a matter of pm rather than necessity. i think tbones truck just doesnt like him.... go figure. .

From : denny

drilling it will take alot of time even if it works because these are security locks and material is hardened and so are the wheel studs. i usually take a 1/2 piece of round steel stock and place it against the lug at an angle and use a bfh to smack it back and forth a little until it snaps off wheel studs are easily replaceable. you can hit the stud directly if you have room. you might want to protect the wheel by taping cloth to it.--j .......just like wrench said. or just pein the damn thing till it is loose. -- so whats your suggestion for him save yourself alot of time and money and stay away from drilling it out. you will break the bit and be pissed off. i was changing my wheels from the oversize ones that came with my truck bought it used to normal size wheels. ive changed 3 tires but 1 i cant get off because one of the 8 lug nuts is stuck on the lug. the oversize tires lug nuts use a special adapter that goes inside the lug nut american racing wheels to turn it off the lug. the problem is worse because it is not only stuck but now the lug nut has cracked so the adapter turns freely inside. what are my options can i drill it out anything to watch out for would a tap help also can i drill all the way through the bolt then what this is on the driver side rear wheel will i damage the brakes maybe i need an arc welder to just burn the lug and bolt off sorry for all the questions but i going crazy over this. please post reply. 6 pipe wrench with a cheater always works. coasty .

From : max dodge

thanks max for the help ill give it a try. kinda expected problems from long storage 8 years in a barn not started. the owner had to replace the engine cause the block cracked. drove it for a few more years then got too old to drive and parked it again i got it a few years ago. it was an estate clearance and the deal was too good to pass up or maybe not. adjust the bands particularly the front band. tighten the adjuster found on the drivers side above the shift levers to 72 in lbs and back off 2.5 turns. there is a lock nut so treat it accordingly. if that doesnt do it you may need to rebuild the trans. likely cause of the problem is simply old age. sitting as much as it must will kill a vehicle as much as using it. -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author im posting this here cause i always get answers here. i do own a dodge truck but right now its running just fine. vehicle; 1980 lebaron 149000km; 318 49000km a904 tranie 71500km. generally the car runs great after new rebuilt carb with ported vacuum installed no rust no body damage slight vibration over 80 km another problem for another day. problem; tranie has a hard time shifting from 1st to 2nd if the speed is increased gradually while going up a steep hill . it tries to shift but just rattles. if the throttle is increased it shifts ok it just seems to do it at slow acceleration. on a flat road or on a medium steep hill at any rate of acceleration it shifts fine and you can barely notice the shift. during stop and go traffic rush hour where the speed is up and down between 15 and 20 km the first dozen or so 1 to 2 transitions are smooth then it starts to get progressively harsher. city driving stop light to stop light is fine no problems. towing a trailer with 3/4 yard of redimix cement had no problems last summer about 15 km on flat roads ive recently replaced the filter and fluid there was some sediment on the pan and magnet but nothing i havent seem before on other tranies. the problem wasnt evident before the fluid change but then it wasnt used in rush hour or on steep hills. the current and the old fluid smells ok but looks like blood murky red. used dexron 3 with mercon couldnt find just dexron. yes i checked the level of the fluid and it is almost at the max mark on the dipstick. so now the question. is there an adjustment that needs to be done or is this a tranie rebuild again had a 68 dart in the 70s with a 273 v8 same problem. after taking it to a tranie shop for a free tare down and inspection then refusing the repair they had to reassembly the tranie and give me the car back in running condition free it never skipped again up to when i sold it 18 months later. they never told me what they did. thanks in advance .

From : tbone

had to do the same thing only 1 for me so far same year and less miles. funny how my 89 nissan still has its original steel lines and there just fine. i guess that its just another dc or at the time chrysler method of increasing profits at the customers expense. yup couldnt have anything to do with the dozens of other variables like conditions design aerodynamics under the truck etc. has to be quality control and an effort to rip off the customer..... -- max there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author had to do the same thing only 1 for me so far same year and less miles. funny how my 89 nissan still has its original steel lines and there just fine. i guess that its just another dc or at the time chrysler method of increasing profits at the customers expense. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving in the last few months i have had to replace four sections of brake line..... 130000 miles on a 97 ram 1500...... a word to the wise.....inspect your brake lines! .

From : coasty

a better rule is to change your fluid every couple of years and to paint everything not painted by the factory before you drive it. steve and never park in the long grass. .

From : steve lusardi

yep works for me too. coasty a better rule is to change your fluid every couple of years and to paint everything not painted by the factory before you drive it. steve in the last few months i have had to replace four sections of brake line..... 130000 miles on a 97 ram 1500...... a word to the wise.....inspect your brake lines! .

From : advocate

try here http//www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.dobvusebvcookie=yes&vertical=tool&pid=00952162000&subcat=bolt-out%2c+taps+%26+dies i was changing my wheels from the oversize ones that came with my truck bought it used to normal size wheels. ive changed 3 tires but 1 i cant get off because one of the 8 lug nuts is stuck on the lug. the oversize tires lug nuts use a special adapter that goes inside the lug nut american racing wheels to turn it off the lug. the problem is worse because it is not only stuck but now the lug nut has cracked so the adapter turns freely inside. what are my options can i drill it out anything to watch out for would a tap help also can i drill all the way through the bolt then what this is on the driver side rear wheel will i damage the brakes maybe i need an arc welder to just burn the lug and bolt off sorry for all the questions but i going crazy over this. please post reply. .