Rusted Powersteering Pump Replacement 99 Caravan
From : td
Q: this is the final segment of the hp & torque issue on my truck and i think chrysler is still nuts. this time they have replied that my truck has 175 bhp and 230 lb-ft of torque. based on what all you folks have said i think they are out to lunch on the torque value. but thats all folks. thanks for all your input. thanks tom. ill now wait and see what chrysler comes back with this time. but it looks like the tst is the product to use to give the truck a boost. dennis yep its a diesel assembled in mexico. my serial number starts with vm okay - given that youre in canada the m indicates the lago alberto assembly plant. and where you show a c for 6cylinder diesel mine is a d. hmmm... d was the engine code for the diesel in 98 and up. maybe yours was a late-year build in 97 and they had already started using the d designation. regardless - yeah your dealership just gave you the wrong info. shocking isnt it heres a link to give you all the specs. on your engine http//www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/facts/96specs.html .
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From : ted mittelstaedt
show me some stats that back up your claims. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote lol. actually because they are lighter they tend to bounce off unlike your 2 ton suvs that tend to turn into a blob especially when they hit each other. oh now thats pretty funny. most tin can cars are safer in accidents than most larger suvs and trucks according to you. now theres a bonehead statement from you. wrong again. those little tin cans as you call them are much stronger than you think and many times your big top heavy suvs hit them climb up on them and overturn. there ya go again trying to explain that tin can cars are safer in accidents. too funny. like i said just excuses to justify your desires. ya i desire to protect my family rather than cramming them all into a tin can. .
From : maxpower
i located the top piece that is cracked. dealers will tell you the whole dash has to be replaced at a cost of at least $800.00. but a dealer here in tampa fl. will sell just the top piece which they say theyve replaced many. i just need to know how far i have to disassemble the dash to get the top piece in. by the way the part is $194.00 and is part #5gk45rc8ab and comes in black or grey. .
From : maxpower
liberally apply jb weld to the bottom of the pump. press the plate to the jb weld. use the ties to secure the plate. ted...what are you on what in the heck are you talking about ok i know the name jb weld is like drawing nails across a blackboard with some people but heres my reasoning. reread the original post. heres the operative sentence last night i finally took a peek under the van and saw the bottom of the pump casing is bubbly with rust. i can actually watch droplets of power steering fluid form where the rust is the weakest. look at it. hes got a ps pump with a perforated resivor. that means for some time now his ps fluid has probably been contaminated with rust. he also dumped 3 bottles of stop leak into the ps fluid. so his rack right now is filled with ps fluid rust and stop leak crap. plus that hes got so much salt water coming up from below as to saturate the bottom of the vehicle to the point that its rotted out the bottom of the ps pump. can you imagine for a second what the bottom of the rest of the van looks like what the rack itself looks like to really do this job right would mean tearing out the pump and the rack and all hoses and just throwing everything in the trash and and replacing everything with new stuff. it is not in my opinion very smart to hook up a brand new ps pump to a rack thats full of crappy ps fluid that may or may not be contaminated with salt water almost certainly has a good load of rust in it plus 3 bottles of stop leak crap and pump all that crud into the new pump. far better to band-aid the existing pump for a few years and eventually its either going to finish rotting out completely or hes going to end up with an inner tie rod thats hashed and will need a new rack anyway then he can just replace everything then. if you see a flaw with this reasoning then please explain it. maybe im too pessimistic but i just cant believe with a ps pump that has the bottom rusted out of it that the inside of his rack is pristine. he can probably do a rube goldberg thing on the ps pump with jb weld in an hour without taking anything apart. that will nurse the pump along to allow him to wring the last few miles out of the rack itself then when the rack blows chunks he can do everything all at once. ted ted my opinion. the power steering pump sits over the top of the right axle. which means salt water and what ever else is hitting the bottom of the resorvoir causing the rust and the leak. me personnally i cant see that kind of water getting into the pump without causing the fluid to be milky. and if your gonna go thru that much trouble to try to seal a leak you may as well take the pump off and replace it with a reman one. if the op takes it off and carries it to pep boys or auto zone im sure they will press the pulley on and off. they should have the shim that is used to get the correct gap for pulley alignment. just a thought! glenn beasley chrysler tech didnt know this was a double post in the dodge group so i will cut and paste .
From : me me nowhere com
yep thats right. since roy posted about the gas prices going up prices in this area went from $2.54 on monday to $2.69 on tuesday to $3.10 today. i figure we all should head east if we have the bucks for the gas hunt down ole roy and stick his head in one of his beagle holes. vbfg denny stop yer bitchin! i was at $2.79 on monday a day ahead of you ya must be use to that.g on vacation this week and i aint turning a wheel. love to see ya bring yer chubby ass this way. hell old orchard beach is still recovering from your last visit. roy .
From : ted mittelstaedt
bdk wrote bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net says... mwarren wrote 2001 1500 5.2l not mine but curious if youre burning premium fuel all the time anyway would it be beneficial to install a chip or other modification designed for premium fuel i dont know that much about perf chips but from my understanding they are designed to get the most out of premium fuel... but will it on an 01. any advice appreciated.. it seems that opinions on these things vary widely. matt why are you burning premium all the time now i would imagine to keep the normally pinging 318 or 360 from sounding like its got a bag of ball bearings in it. bdk well i run mid grade in mine but only because i used a hypertech programmer. prior to that i used the cheap stuff without a problem. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - finally on the road! .
From : roy
lol unless those reports were written today they really dont mean shit. if the supply is fine as you say why would the president be considering opening some of the national oil reserve some of those reports were written today. find me anything that says there is a shortage of oil. all ive read says theres no shortage just a huge investor pool that likes to speculate. the futures market tells me all i need to see. unless supplies in the near future are going to be strained the price cannot be driven up like that and the today backs me up. as to the president we all know why hes considering it. political favor insurance in keeping a good economy etc. but i doubt itll have any real effect on pump prices since there is plenty of oil to be had. once again you are completely wrong. 3 refineries are under water and will not be restarting any time soon there is currently no production in the gulf at all the mars platform is severely damaged and will probably be down for months and an entire 50 million dollar rig is missing. now the president has said that he will tap the strategic reserves which would if the price was driven up by pure speculation cause a major price drop and again that didnt happen. a $2.00 price drop means nothing and today the price held at $70 a barrel. if the price was purely based on people in the futures market speculating to drive the price up the possibility of the president opening up the reserves would cause the price to plummet and that didnt happen. perhaps you missed that hurricane yesterday and the damage it caused to some major supply lines. you missed it the price did drop over $2 a barrel on that and despite the hurricane not suddenly disappearing. damage to major supply lines maybe but all the refinery spokespeople are claiming minor damage. there tune has now changed and $2 a barrel doesnt mean shit not when we are up $20. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : ted mittelstaedt
somehow i just dont believe that a few days of interrupted service will suddenly cause gas supplies to dwindle so low as to cause a panic. in my opinion its nothing more than price gouging. lack of current supply and ever increasing demand - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy .
From : shep
suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 30-aug-05 726 pm diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy here in the uk youre just now catching up to our normal on-base gas station prices both gas and diesel. gas on the economy is close to $7.00/gallon now. yick. that said if prices keep going up when we go back to the us in the spring i can see the dak making a nice lawn ornament. i could plant a vegetable garden in the bed jmc .
From : john s
timdanielewski91@msn.com says... i cant see paying $575 $212 + $350 labor + tax for a job that i can maybe do my own. it will cost me $100 for the part on the internet and im guessing a full saturday of sweat and aggravation. i just called the shop and the price of $350 for labor doesnt include replacing of the hoses. the tech said we dont replace the hoses unless theres something wrong with them. they can last the life of the car. my rule of thumb is that if i think i can do the job in one day i allow two days to complete the job. -------------- alex .
From : tim bur
almost makes me wish i had my little honda prelude back. almost. still love my durango though. maybe i could just have my prelude back to drive during the week - diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! $2.579 here same as it was last week actually it came down from $2.629 a week ago. i expect it to be up tomorrow but hey - what can you do its $2.79 at the independents and $2.89 at the big stations in tucson. 8/30/05 just put $65 in my truck al .
From : ryan underwood
the problem is as i see it cnn and cnbc is that it will be far longer than a few days as you seem to think. many oil platforms have been shut down and will require some repairs to return to full output and even after they do there seems to be extensive damage to the transportation network which could take months to repair. as for price gouging that goes without saying and when they actually have a valid reason..... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving somehow i just dont believe that a few days of interrupted service will suddenly cause gas supplies to dwindle so low as to cause a panic. in my opinion its nothing more than price gouging. lack of current supply and ever increasing demand - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy .
From : steve
the problem is as i see it cnn and cnbc is that it will be far longer than a few days as you seem to think. many oil platforms have been shut down and will require some repairs to return to full output and even after they do there seems to be extensive damage to the transportation network which could take months to repair. except that.... la. isnt the only terminus. hurricane reports on katrina have been coming in for almost two weeks enough time to prepare and have a reserve. typically dozens of tankers sit waiting for a place to offload. storage tanks on land are for what if not to store product in the event of needing to buffer a supply. granted oil companies tend to jack prices when they feel like it but.... anyone looking at the futures market knows that they are raising prices in a reaction to the market price of oil. fact is its demand on the futures market pushing the price. why because people are buying oil that doesnt exist yet as a commodity. and realistically if i said to you hey ill pay you more than market price for that widget you are making and ill buy five of them even though you havent got them yet. what are ya gonna sell it for market price or my offer and if you sell me a bunch of those widgets what price am i gonna sell them for more than what i paid or market price and if i buy five widgets at a time you are probably gonna make as many as you can to keep up with my demand so long as im buying. plenty of widgets but the price is determined by the investor not the market. and the spiral goes on..... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. the problem is as i see it cnn and cnbc is that it will be far longer than a few days as you seem to think. many oil platforms have been shut down and will require some repairs to return to full output and even after they do there seems to be extensive damage to the transportation network which could take months to repair. as for price gouging that goes without saying and when they actually have a valid reason..... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving somehow i just dont believe that a few days of interrupted service will suddenly cause gas supplies to dwindle so low as to cause a panic. in my opinion its nothing more than price gouging. lack of current supply and ever increasing demand - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy .
From : maxpower
td timdanielewski91@msn.com writes they just dont work. well... as expected it didnt. last night i finally took a peek under the van and saw the bottom of the pump casing is bubbly with rust. i can actually watch droplets of power steering fluid form where the rust is the weakest. i took pictures of the pump and would be willing to post them upon request. hopefully not too much of this rust mixed with the fluid. the rack seals are quite sensitive to contamination. replacing of the hoses. the tech said we dont replace the hoses unless theres something wrong with them. they can last the life of the car. are the hoses protected with rubber or are they bare metal in certain areas if you can visually examine any metal parts of the hoses and they appear fine it might be worth putting off this repair. if they are questionable you will probably be doing the procedure again in the future. questions can anyone please please provide any tips that will help how long average should it take to do a job like this or how long did it take you to do it any special tools for the pully what could reasonably be removed to make the job easier is it really worth replacing the hoses any replies would be appreciated. usually you need a puller for the pulley. those can be rented at autozone. rack rebuilders i have talked to recommend against atsco/ari or cardone rebuilds so try to find a higher quality brand. fwiw i have an ari in my car that seems fine so far. if there is a high pressure cut-off switch in your pump remember to transplant it into the rebuild because it probably wont come with one. when you are done thoroughly flush out the steering system with clean ps fluid. put the return line into a bucket and keep the reservoir filled while a friend turns the rack from one stop to the other until the fluid runs clear at the return. refill it with the manufacturers recommended ps fluid. using the wrong ps fluid can damage the rack seals. unfortunately since you have already used a stop leak product you may have to continue to use this product to prevent the rack from leaking. i would solicit advice from others who have used the particular product that you used. .
From : alex rodriguez
mitchell ltg says 1.6 hrs check autozone.com/repairinfo may have better instructions. im trying to get self prepared for a power steering pump replacement on a 1999 dodge grand caravan v6 3.0l. im reading that it is a p.i.t.a. job pain in the a$$. im armed with the hayes repair manual a little common sense basic tools and an instruction guide from this link http//www.cardone.com/english/club/products/steering/protech/installinstructions/93062720.asp ive also been scanning the groups and im surprised that there arent more posts on this considering the hole rusted through in 6 only years of use. i guess it was no match for the wi salt. i found a post that hits it dead on but it lacks information and the poster doesnt go into detail about installing. he mainly says how hard the pump was to get off. see it at this link history i discovered the leak for about 4 weeks ago. it leaves about a 12 spot of fluid every 10 hour sitting. out of desperation i tried one of those stop leak juices. in fact 3 full bottles. ive never used any type of stop leak remedy before because i feel they just dont work. well... as expected it didnt. last night i finally took a peek under the van and saw the bottom of the pump casing is bubbly with rust. i can actually watch droplets of power steering fluid form where the rust is the weakest. i took pictures of the pump and would be willing to post them upon request. i cant see paying $575 $212 + $350 labor + tax for a job that i can maybe do my own. it will cost me $100 for the part on the internet and im guessing a full saturday of sweat and aggravation. i just called the shop and the price of $350 for labor doesnt include replacing of the hoses. the tech said we dont replace the hoses unless theres something wrong with them. they can last the life of the car. questions can anyone please please provide any tips that will help how long average should it take to do a job like this or how long did it take you to do it any special tools for the pully what could reasonably be removed to make the job easier is it really worth replacing the hoses any replies would be appreciated. thanks tim ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .