Quadrajet choke problem

From : barry

Q: guys if you could replace your cummins 5.9 engine with another diesel...what would it be personally id go with a deutz liquid cooled 5.7 liter which produces 240 horses and 700 foot pounds of torque @ 1400 rpm out of the crate...no tuning baby. also it only uses 195 g/kwh! id think it would be the ultimate in economy and utility! think the model specifically is bf6m2013c. its four valve per cylinder turbo charged and direct injected. it has a bore/stroke of 98mm/126mm verses the cummins 102mm/120mm. diesel enthusiasts will immediately recognize the benefits. the original cummins 5.9 was designed as a naturally breathing monster...hence the shorter stroke and big bore allowing for more valve area. im not high on four valves but deutz makes the best of it. for you guys that buy horse power...may not be your cup of tea...personally i buy torque and economy. stuart .

Replies:

From : budd cochran

craig christian wrote craig christian wrote 3 eliminate income tax go to straight sales tax or flat tax. 5 larger tax incentives for people/companies that develop or use if you initiate #3 then turn around and do #5 then you end up with exactly what we have now. i dont believe so. for example if sales tax were the new way ... imagine all of the new tax income! the folks here illegally would start paying tax when they buy fuel or go to the grocery store! i imagine that is a huge sum of money that the current system cannot collect. the folks that vacation here will be helping to pay what we pay out of our paychecks. true but you just added a tax incentive. soon they add one here and one there and one more just over that way and well as you see you are right back where you started. jerry .

From : mike romain

aww look at budd. kissy kissy kissy. is jerry now going to be your bestest friend -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving in my honest personal opinion tom is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offer as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. sure troll-boy in your dreams . . so how come you have 3 or more people pointing out your screw ups all the time and i rarely get corrected by anyone gee its because you dont know anything. what 3 are you talking about as if you dont know another lie troll-boy i simply asked who and once again you were unable to answer how typical. i know who they are and so do you. spin and duck troll boy but you still made the implication. nope that was you but if you say im wrong prove it. this is not a long thread show me where. you claim youre not implying it so you prove youre not. lol sorry budd but you were the one who made the accusation. i simply said that you were once again lying and wrong. in this countyr people are innocent until proven guilty. you accused me i denied it and now you must either prove it or shup up. well as your so fond of pointing out when you need to cover your butt again this is the internet. now just for the fun of oit back up your point for once troll. no tommy-troll you lose. drag racing generally only allows one hour between rounds to make repairs re-tune or whatever. the turbo enthusiates will change a compressor a scroll a core a complete turbo or adjust a wastegate in that time period. a supercharger car has the same restrictions. heck aa/fd guys do a complete overhaul in that time frame. that is exactly my point they can do an entire overhaul in an hour. are you now saying that a pulley swap is at the same difficulty level and requires the same tools as an engine overhaul. who is talking about drag racing anyway we are talking about street cars here and the people who own them. sorry budd but you really tangled yourself up in your spin this time. no troll-boy in your effort to cover your butt you missed the point that changing a turbos output is doable at home and it doesnt take a rocket scientist . . .with training you could even do it. the only one twisting to cover their butt is you. i never said that it couldnt be done only that it was harder than changing a set of pulleys and therefore not in the same modificatin class. spin all you want you are still full of it and wrong. thats exactly where you lose the point and the discussion . . .it isnt any harder to do. point its not as difficult as you in your lack of knowledge or experience claim. i didnt say that it was. what i said despite your spin was that rebuilding a turbo is more difficult than swapping out a set of pulleys. and my point is that you dont know what youre talking about again. but the only point you have budd is on the top of your head. i said that the two are not in the same modification class and you know it but feel free to keep spinning its fun to watch. yes they are no matter how you try to spin it. stay on topic troll or shut up. lol where did i say i worked for dodge tommy-troll oh my error sorry about that. you said that you spent 6 months as the mopar v-8 tech on a turbocharging site. i thought that you had actual experience. i guess thats why you are hear now not knowing what actually regulates boost pressure. did that site shut down now please explain how the waste gate effects spool up times. unlike you i know of more than one way to regulate boost on turbo centrifugal and positive displacement systems. lol really name a few and stick with turbos. lol ok one radiator pressure caps. figure out how. explain why you think it doesnt effect spooling time. i knw why it doesnt. explain why you think it does. and why doesnt it and your knowledge of automotive mechanics is as usual underwhelming. and yet superior to yours in many areas. lol name a couple dozen troll-boy. i have yet to see any praises for your answers to questions. a couple dozen what i hve been thanked by many newbies in here. lol yeah right ... and they disappear because your inaccuracy cost them a ton of money and they got mad enough to not come back again. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : greg o

tbone wrote lol unlike you jerry i do have better things to do with my time. now lets see how much deeper you can dig yourself in today. didnt seem to stop the other bs posts you continued during that period. guess you dont have as much better time as you think. geez what a lame ass answer ........... if you are going to bullshit at least cover you ass a little bit. because unlike your lame attacks they actually have a point and are interesting. you are just being a baby and are completely off topic again. simply changing a waste gate setting will give you nothing except maybe more smoke. lol if you say so. well prove me wrong.......... you made the point now back it up. massive gains in power by simply adjusting the waste gate for boost huh............. better get back to you little search engine stupid. perhaps you should crack open a book and read a little before sticking your head completely up your ass. maybe you might like to explain how just the boost setting change can give you these massive gains in power. the word is can not always will and massive is a realitive term. if you get 15 hp by replacing the entire exhaust then 40 from tweeking the boost is massive. oh i see ...... didnt realize your were also talking about replacing a entire exhaust system. it was just another example moron. maybe you might point out where you said that or is that just something you were thinking and we were suppose to magically assume. so tweaking just the boost gives you 25 more hp huh........... gee jerry you really are dumber than dirt. i can see why you support who you support. i said and ill repeat it again for you if an expensive and time consuming exhaust system change will net a 15hp gain then a simple pully or waste gate change that can in some cases give 40+ hp increases by itself without the exhaust mod this is just a comparrison pinhead would be considered massive. you really are grasping now and your continued spin attempts continue to show just how dumb you really are. keep going though because the laughs are refreshing. funny i was thinking the same about you. never mind the fact that without a timing and/or fuel increase adjustment must also be done. you are a fucking idiot. do you kiss your mother with that mouth oh thats right you never met her. lucky for her i guess. aw...... the real tbone is surfacing again. would it make you better or maybe safer in your gutter world or even easier for you bail out if i talk about your mother. youre reaching new lows tommy boy........ no that would be wrong as you have spewed this type of gutter garbage before. i was talking about you not her. but being a conservative i could see with your natural paranoia why you would assume otherwise. the fuel and timing adjustments will be handled by the computer just like it was prior to the boost adjustment up to the limits of the fuel system and the computer tables. want to back that up ....... no you cant. the computer will see a over boost......then guess what happens. really and you have proof of this where what exactly do you think the computer would do in your overboost situation oops there goes the massive gains you dreamed about or more correctly bsed about. come on tommy troll i really would like a answer to the question about these massive gains from a simply waste gate adjustment....can you do it can you really come up with a answer........ or is another spin in another direction what i can expect. sorry jerry but the only one spinning here is you. how do you think it works in the lightning moron. who gives a crap troll boy you should pinhead because it once again proves you dead wrong. if you need more then you can flash the computer and upgrade the fuel system. nice spin try troll boy .............. this is great really is. now you are suggesting you meant computer flashing and fuel up grades. lol wrong. i said that if you crank the boost beyond the headroom that the computer or fuel system has you would need to make corrections or modifications. once again jerry the waste gate was just a comparison in modification types and the stress that they can place on the motor especially a motor that is already under more stress than it was originally designed for. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : bowgus

for what its worth ... i installed a manual choke conversion kit on every carburated vehicle i ever owned ... until i began sharing the vehicles with the wifes -. i was doing the opposite! i was installing automatic chokes on older vehicles that never came with them! greg .

From : john kunkel

the statement the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. is incorrect. what i intended with that statement was to refute the original posters implicit claim that his oil consumption was so high *because* of what he perceives as his engines inappropriately-high operating speed on the highway. .

From : rv

heres a little q-jet rebuild article fyi ... http//www.carcraft.com/howto/57178/ . i have a q-jet on my boat ... gotta first of all love the sound of that uneven-fire engine cruising along at 3000 rpm ... and then if that isnt enough the sound of the q-jets secondaries opening up ... 4 pipes and no mufflers - just bought an 87 dodge pickup. whenever i drive it and its hot outside after i shut it off the truck seems to get vapor lock and refuses to start again. so i popped the hood... and what seems to be happening is the choke closes all the way whenever the engine is shut off.... which makes it darn near impossible to start. my solution is to jam the choke open with a screwdriver until it starts. also im only getting 7 miles to the gallon litterally although the truck seems to run fine. im goin to rebuild the carb but how do i know if the electric choke ever functions correctly i mean how do i test *that* or is it totally screwed up and i should save time by installing a manual choke the trucks an 87 dodge ram 360 engine. the qjets numbers are 17085431 / 1746. from what im reading that may not be the carb that came with the truck. im not a newbie but havent worked on my own cars for about twenty years and the carb thing is a new one for me. any advice greatly appreciated... and if youre in oregon it might be worth some beer. .

From : bowgus

with the debate tonight having a live audience of undecided voters candidate john kerry is having a difficult time deciding whether to be up on the stage with president bush or sitting in the audience with other people who cant make up their minds in every election there seems to be catch phrases that continually appear in this one flip-flop is being beat to death and kerry is taking the blunt of the criticism. for a balanced view do a google search using bush flip-flop and see that kerry isnt the only flip-flopper. i am not a kerry supporter i am anti-bush. .