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From : gigolo kerry

Q: kerrys facts just dont add up september 30 2004 by robert novak sun-times columnist john kerry in a press conference last week repeated his accusation that gen. eric shinseki was forced out as u.s. army chief of staff because he wanted more troops for iraq. the trouble is that the democratic presidential nominee was spreading an urban myth. the bigger trouble is that it was no isolated incident. sen. kerry last week also said the bush administration may push reinstatement of the draft when in fact that idea comes only from anti-war democrats. at the same time he said retired gen. tommy franks complained that iraq was draining troops from afghanistan when the truth is he never did. over a week earlier kerry blamed bush for higher medicare premiums when in fact they are mandated by law one kerry voted for. exaggeration is a familiar political staple but presidential candidates usually are held to a higher standard. kerrys recent descent into myth-making may reflect the campaigns anxiety in the final weeks. the immediate questions are whether he will engage in misstatements during todays first presidential debate and whether he will be challenged if he does. kerry is voicing inaccurate statements that have been repeated so often on the internet on talk shows and by campaign surrogates that they have come to be regarded as the truth -- for example the explanation for how shinsekis long and distinguished military career ended. kerry picked up the story april 13 during a campaign event in providence r.i. declaring gen. shinseki said very clearly we need 200000 troops. and what happened to him he was forced into early retirement. kerry reiterated this last week in columbus ohio gen. shinseki told this country how many troops wed need. the president retired him early for telling the truth. that is not true and even bush critics in the pentagon know it. the truth is that defense secretary donald rumsfeld demanding control of the army collided with shinseki on issues unrelated to iraq. in march 2002 rumsfeld announced that shinsekis term as chief of staff would end as scheduled in june 2003 without extension -- an unprecedented action that made the general a lame duck. it was after that not before it on feb. 25 2003 that shinseki told a senate committee the united states would need several hundred thousand soldiers not precisely 200000 for iraq occupation duty. in his philadelphia speech sept. 24 kerry declared all you have to do is ask gen. tommy franks how surprised he was that those troops moved out of there afghanistan when he was trying to do the job he was doing. as a former trial lawyer kerry should have known the answer to the question he was asking. he could have known by reading franks memoir american soldier in which he denies bush starved afghanistan for the sake of iraq. president bush had stressed his concern that we maintain momentum in afghanistan wrote franks who supports bushs re-election. indeed when kerry in a sept. 21 conference in jacksonville fla. suggested that bush had taken needed troops out of afghanistan franks that day said in an abc radio interview with sean hannity thats absolutely incorrect. one day after kerry misrepresented franks the associated press reported that the candidate at west palm beach fla. raised the possibility of a reinstated draft. that is an old saw on the internet even though there are no such plans at the pentagon. the only advocates of renewed conscription are liberal democrats led by rep. charlie rangel of new york who believe it would discourage u.s. military intervention around the world. earlier on sept. 8 in cincinnati kerry put the blame on bush for higher medicare premiums. in fact health care experts told me the premiums were mandated by a 1997 codification of the law on which kerry cast a favorable vote. on jan. 8 1976 i wrote a column detailing six major untruthful statements by jimmy carter -- about himself not his opponents -- during two public app

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From : sal

tbone wrote tbone wrote yup typical. then he posts a statement compareing a boost increase on a blower. to a wastegate adjustment on a turbo. how exactly do you think you control the boost on a turbocharged engine roy come on you can look it up. maybeee ....... change the pulley size please show me any turbo that is belt driven and ill show you what is actually a centrifical supercharger. you want to change the boost pressure from a turbocharger you work with the waste gate. and if you hadnt split the comment to continue bs spin then you would have to admit that is exactly what i said. it is of course nothing of the sort. you were just involved in your childish spin again trying to make something out of nothing. whats the matter jerry nobody wants to come out and play with you since you were commenting on over driving the blower you couldnt have been talking about a exhaust driven turbo which i dont think can be over driven so you must have been actually talking about a supercharger right. wrong. i was just using it as another example of a simple change causing dramatic results. you guys really need to stop reading more into things that what was there. and you need to stop the bullshit and stay on top of the subject in at least a single paragraph. lol i was on the subject. just because you were unable to understand it doesnt make it anything else. i didnt twist what you said but simply put your spin in the proper context. iow you are editing my words to suit your needs. you on the other hand have only one agenda and that is to spin and spin in the attempt to stretch a thread into a fun little troll game that you seem to lavish. lol hardly. the only one spinning in here is you. what really amazes me is being tagged as the ng troll seems to be a honor for you. perhaps you feel that way because i really dont give a damn what you think. it is a public forum and i can say what i please. if you want to label me as a troll because i unspin your bs and make you look like the idiot that you are so be it. i see you crying down in the cheney thread because no one is complaining about the ot post. lol you do have a way with bs. i hear a lot of whining and crying from you and others like you about trolling for posting a simple header with no insults in it at all but when someone on the conservative side does exactly the same thing for exactly the same reason then i hear nothing at all. why is that jerry -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : john z kerry

steve w. wrote exclusive saddam possessed wmd had extensive terror ties by scott wheeler cns.com staff writer october 04 2004 lol oh yeah thats a credible source of . probably a tad more credible than cbs and dan blather. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : tony broderick

on sat 02 oct 2004 115354 -0500 ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote on flat roads a 3.54 screw will drag a balanced 7-ton 5th wheel down the highway just fine. to minimize or at least reduce the amount of shifting over hill & dale just punch the o/d button on the dash. fuel economy will worsen but if you bought the rig for towing i doubt fuel economy is one of your main concerns. you are right about the o/d. i do that all the time and it really doesnt affect the fuel mileage at all. plus in direct drive at 60 mph hell be running at about 2200 rpm which is farther up in the power curve than at 1800 rpm in o/d which is too far down the power curve. iow when you hit the hill you are already making the power required to maintain the speed. greg .