Poor Mileage
From : howard page
Q: howard page wrote my 04 hemi quad cab 4x4 is averaging 9-10 miles around town at best and not a heck of alot more on the highway. i have modified it as follows. k&n cold air intake system gibson dual extreme exhaust system. tonneau cover. i did add a set of bfg all terrain ta/ko tires. the tires are 265 size up from 245 70/17 i think about an inch taller and inch wider. i dont go peeling out at lights or really pushing it. is this common or should i be checking something truck has about 35k on the speedo. its a beautiful truck but gas mileage sucks big time. if your tires are an inch taller than stock you are travelling farther than what the odometer says and faster than what the speedometer says. your mileage probably isnt quite as bad as you think. -- ken .
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From : denny
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From : roy
roy wrote where is this cold air coming from usually from the engine compartment. how about outside the engine compartment anyway no matter where it gets the air it travels through a tube that is hot as hell yes but depending on the material used any transfer of heat in the split second the air travels through the tube is negligible. some of the all metal single layer tubes i suppose could conduct too much heat. .
From : jeffrey david miller
in all fairness and i really hate to say the snowidiot is correct shut up roy bg but hes right about the new trucks not having a disconnect. im thinking it may have been around 02-03 when dodge did away with it. but i dont think it drops the milage as much as he lets on it does. turning a differential over with no load against it doesnt take very much effort. denny i rarely say this but you are incorrect the 1500 dodge ram does disconnect the wheels at the front diff. as well as the tc. it does so with engine vacuum in 2 wd. please for the sake of the other readers get your facts correct before you reply. on my 96 5.9 gas 5speed i regularly saw 17.5 mpg by keeping speeds below 50 mph steve on sat 18 aug 2007 094547 +0200 steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote your truck should be getting between 15 and 17.5 mpg depending on your driving habits. maybe in your dreams or a 2wd one in a lighter truck with stock tires. i am not knocking dodge but if you want a chance at a gas 4x4 with decent mpg for its size you have to get a ford or gm because they unlike dodge do disconnect the front axle and differentail in 2wd. over 35 years ago when i first start buying 4x4 for myself they had lockout hubs and you could tell when hubs were left engaged and see it in mpg too. yes so wise arse will say it was a 40 year old truck but that does not matter because new truck drags axle same way since there is no disconnect. given todays energy concerns is is a bit of a farce that not a single dodge 4x4 made has a axle disconnect all to save them not you a little money building them. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : azwiley1
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From : bob
on fri 17 aug 2007 221558 -0400 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote just seeing if this stupid computer will post......aarrgghhh.... nothing personal buggs but in my years of consulting i never saw a stupid computer... were you by any chance getting an error code id 10 t mac please remove splinters before emailing .
From : bob
snoman wrote on fri 17 aug 2007 233001 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote the idiot is back!! yes you the idiot and troll is back i see! typical troll just wants to stir pot and not really help anyone. ----------------- thesnoman.com good grief! will you guys cut it out! you dont like each other we get that. every single thread quickly turns in to childish name calling. enough is enough. dont make me stop this truck! im going to have to seprate you guys if you cant behave. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : Annonymous
in response to mike simmons s post. i thought everyone should know in response to mike simmons s post. i thought everyone should know roy wrote miles you continue to ignore the question. you say it is moving fast enough to cool the tube and keep it cool. where are you finding all this velocity lets take the 5.7l hemi for instance. what is the volume of air it would draw in each revolution the formula for any four stroke engine is cfm = cid x rpm x ve /3456 where cfm = cubic feet/minute cid = cubic inch displacement rpm= revolutions per minute ve = volumetric efficiency to calculate velocity thru the air intake system cfm/intake area in square feet this does not take into account the very minor loses due to friction. more fuel to the fire..... ;^ mike ok mr gasoline man................. what is the ve of a new hemi -- chris hmmmm... good question chris! i dunno but ill find out. mike bad as a math teacher gives ya a word problem but not all the ness info to work the formula to reach the solution but you still fail the test ; p -- chris .
From : Annonymous
just in case anyone gives a damn i found out what was the problem with my truck--no thanks to this site and its visitors. it was a stinkin rear wheel sensor. what the heck dodge puts these danged things in your autos just so they can go bad and cost you a fortune to fix them. if you think im a itch in print you should meet me face-to-face! my post was i have idiot lights air bag engine brakes on but everything checks out o.k. the child protection door locks are supposed to lock up at 15 mph but now they dont. when the locks quit working the speedometer and milage meter quit too. battery tests okay. no blown fuses. help i hope dodge goes bust oldbag please let me apologize for my three very unpolite friends. they have nothing else to do but bitch and moan amongst themselves and snoidiot. if you would send me your address ill send you a sack of white castles to help with your obvious intestinal obstruction. have fun and happy dodgeing!!! denny .
From : roy
on aug 16 705 pm miles n...@nopers.com wrote shane wrote does anyone actually know if a vented tailgate actually helps increase gas mileage any if so by how much any information would be greatly appreciated thanks. decades old question that has been long since answered. a tailgate down or removed will actually increase the trucks drag rather than the expected decrease. in tests i have seen the resulting mpg change is negligible. if your intent is to increase mpg then youd be wasting your money with a vented tailgate. if anything it would go down but more likely no measurable difference. thanks to everyone who responded it really helps with a new baby. i dont want to be spending any extra money if its not going to help me save any money in the long run. what is everyones thoughts on a k&n http//www.knfilters.com/ products would anything like that help me get more mpg or would that be just a waste of money too i really dont care too much about the mpg if if its a drastic increase i wouldnt mind adding it to the truck. i used to have a diesel and i was putting $90+/- a week into it now im only putting $60+/- a week and that has been saving me a lot of money already. shane .
From : steve lusardi
howard page wrote my 04 hemi quad cab 4x4 is averaging 9-10 miles around town at best and not a heck of alot more on the highway. i have modified it as follows. k&n cold air intake system gibson dual extreme exhaust system. tonneau cover. i did add a set of bfg all terrain ta/ko tires. the tires are 265 size up from 245 70/17 i think about an inch taller and inch wider. i dont go peeling out at lights or really pushing it. is this common or should i be checking something truck has about 35k on the speedo. its a beautiful truck but gas mileage sucks big time. its a big heavy truck with a bigish engine. mileage is going to suck. but i agree with you it shouldnt be that bad. youve made a couple of engine mods have you checked your actual airfuel ratio ask around in your club someone must have an lm-1 or something similar. have you used a tuner like haltech or jet the highest setting will give you a tad more performance than the mid setting but your mileage will defiantly be worse. have you checked for proper air pressure if youre lucky you can find someone with a tire pyrometer to set the pressure more accurately. if you cant find one just add 5 psi to your current pressure and see what happens to your mileage. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : miles
just seeing if this stupid computer will post......aarrgghhh.... hey it did. i guess you all can start with the rabbit jokes again.... denny jokes you mean they wernt serious fmb north mexico .
From : snoman
on fri 17 aug 2007 233001 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote the idiot is back!! yes you the idiot and troll is back i see! typical troll just wants to stir pot and not really help anyone. you are soooo sad. ----------------- theidiot.com .
From : roy
beautiful truck but gas mileage sucks big time. .
From : snoman
roy wrote azwiley1 wrote save your money and dont waste it on the pos k&n filter. all hype pure bullshit. the filters are junk but their cai is ok and can improve performance on some vehicles. however i prefer other brands such as airraid. for permanent filters i prefer wix or napa gold. huh maybe if the engine is modified and the speed is close to 100mph. there are some vehicles that can benefit from a better air intake especially going from a hot to a cold intake. .
From : steve lusardi
on aug 17 720 pm denny wddo...@woh.rr.com wrote stupid computer will post......aarrgghhh.... hey it did. i guess you all can start with the rabbit jokes again.... denny stop eating wc over the keyboard and you wouldnt have all the damn problems! no castles for me this week. this is the week of the gigantic smorgasboard called the county fair. the only way it could be any better is if they had a wc booth set up somewhere. denny .
From : snoman
azwiley1 wrote save your money and dont waste it on the pos k&n filter. all hype pure bullshit. the filters are junk but their cai is ok and can improve performance on some vehicles. however i prefer other brands such as airraid. for permanent filters i prefer wix or napa gold. huh maybe if the engine is modified and the speed is close to 100mph. .
From : chris thompson
just seeing if this stupid computer will post......aarrgghhh.... hey it did. i guess you all can start with the rabbit jokes again.... denny .
From : roy
just seeing if this stupid computer will post......aarrgghhh.... .
From : roy
azwiley1 wrote save your money and dont waste it on the pos k&n filter. all hype pure bullshit. the filters are junk but their cai is ok and can improve performance on some vehicles. however i prefer other brands such as airraid. for permanent filters i prefer wix or napa gold. .
From : tboneroy
and that has been saving me a lot of money already. shane save your money and dont waste it on the pos k&n filter. all hype pure bullshit. azwiley tbone fmb roy... thanks for all your input after reading everyones comments it sounds like i better off not getting any of that and put my money towards gas. thanks again shane .
From : azwiley1
ah with buddism i gave the op a option. further while practicing buddism i am never wrong!!!! gbmfg roy but roy you gave him a black vs. white answer - the truck or any econo car. there are a multitude of options including a truck and an econo car and/or a bike bus service a skate board not going anywhere ask friends for rides hitchhiking etc.. perhaps buddism isnt that enlightening. however i must admit you werent wrong larry is use to saying the above.bfg huh cmon pay attention!! however i must admit you werent wrong .
From : ed h
ah with buddism i gave the op a option. further while practicing buddism i am never wrong!!!! gbmfg roy but roy you gave him a black vs. white answer - the truck or any econo car. there are a multitude of options including a truck and an econo car and/or a bike bus service a skate board not going anywhere ask friends for rides hitchhiking etc.. perhaps buddism isnt that enlightening. however i must admit you werent wrong larry is use to saying the above.bfg huh .
From : ed h
you have a couple of options imo. realize it is a 4x4 truck with a hemi in it that sounds nice but gets shitty mileage and enjoy it. or dump it and by econo car. it is what it is. roy how dare you suggest that someone trade it in for something this simple! careful the net nanny is reading and may chastize you! ah with buddism i gave the op a option. further while practicing buddism i am never wrong!!!! gbmfg roy but roy you gave him a black vs. white answer - the truck or any econo car. there are a multitude of options including a truck and an econo car and/or a bike bus service a skate board not going anywhere ask friends for rides hitchhiking etc.. perhaps buddism isnt that enlightening. however i must admit you werent wrong larry is use to saying the above.bfg - something to be said about buddism at least from the buddist view. bg yup the sure is!! g roy .
From : ed medlin
on aug 14 943 pm jenny3k...@msn.net wrote hi group 1995 1500slt 360 auto 2wd red. it just stopped and i coasted to a stop. i looked under the hood and everything seemed ok as in distributor cap was in place etc. got back in and it started up. closed the hood and drove 100 feet and it died again and it did that 3 more times before i agreed it had a problem. had it towed home and will attack it tomorrow afternoon. my first assumption is gas and probably the fuel filter. oh i live in a rural area and rats and mice are a big problem in vehicles. so far i have never had any issues with them but when it coasted to a stop and i walked around it a very fat rat ran out from under. i cant see any eaten anything but i have not had a really good look yet. i am still leaning towards the fuel filter because of the start after a delay thing. sounds like the rat has caused your problem. move the truck around as in when you towed it and the chewn wire makes contact again... drive the truck and hit a bump and it shuts off again. might be tough to find.. follow the rat pee smell and the turd trail and you might find a nest.. .
From : howard page
on aug 16 956 am gavin ga...@sentex.net wrote no 134. it is gone and now duracool is in its place. i still need an explanation as to why the cooling falls off in traffic. sorry i misunderstood. .
From : nosey
my 04 hemi quad cab 4x4 is averaging 9-10 miles around town at best and not a heck of alot more on the highway. i have modified it as follows. k&n cold air intake system gibson dual extreme exhaust system. tonneau cover. i did add a set of bfg all terrain ta/ko tires. the tires are 265 size up from 245 70/17 i think about an inch taller and inch wider. i dont go peeling out at lights or really pushing it. is this common or should i be checking something truck has about 35k on the speedo. its a beautiful truck but gas mileage sucks big time. you put on a wider taller heavier tire with a more aggressive tread that would cost a couple of mpg with the added rolling resistance and rotational weight. you also raised the truck higher that put more air passing under it. the k&n was waste unless you did a bunch of engine mods. your probably jumping on the gas to hear the exhaust and the woosh from the k&n. you have a couple of options imo. realize it is a 4x4 truck with a hemi in it that sounds nice but gets shitty mileage and enjoy it. or dump it and by econo car. it is what it is. .
From : john
im stumped here and would appreciate any tips. i have an 86 ramcharger with a 360. it is a carb intake and stock electronic ignition. at any random time the engine will suddenly stop. it is an immediate stop as if the ignition were turned off. most of the time it will start back up. sometimes though it will turn over without firing. if i wait some period of time again length is random it will fire up. i do not believe it is fuel related i have plenty of gas i have replaced the fuel pump and fuel is coming out at the carb. the carb itself was rebuilt last year it is a edelbrock performer if anyone needs to know. i believe it is a short based on this - i noticed smoke coming off the negative post on the battery when i tried to restart it with the hood open the other day and it wouldnt fire up no smoke when it does start - fuel air and timing are all ok but i have not confirmed spark once it stops it is hard to get it not to start - the stop is sudden like the ignition is turned off - there are no trouble signs like knocking stuttering smoke or squeals - gauges all read fine however i can not verify it is a short and i have no idea where else to look. because it acts like the spark is removed when it stops i traced back from the coil through the harness under the hood and cant find any melting chaffing where a wire might ground out or a connector is loose. i unwrapped most of the harness and checked for wires that may have crossed and found none. the voltage regulator orange box and ballast resistor and their connections are all ok. the distributor cap and wires are new with my last tune up about 8 months ago. coil was replaced last year. battery is 3 months old alternator is less than 2 years old. with the engine running i have jiggled and wiggled every wire and harness under my hood and dash and unable to get it to stop. what am i missing has anyone else had a similar problem .
From : ed h
you have a couple of options imo. realize it is a 4x4 truck with a hemi in it that sounds nice but gets shitty mileage and enjoy it. or dump it and by econo car. it is what it is. roy how dare you suggest that someone trade it in for something this simple! careful the net nanny is reading and may chastize you! ah with buddism i gave the op a option. further while practicing buddism i am never wrong!!!! gbmfg roy but roy you gave him a black vs. white answer - the truck or any econo car. there are a multitude of options including a truck and an econo car and/or a bike bus service a skate board not going anywhere ask friends for rides hitchhiking etc.. perhaps buddism isnt that enlightening. however i must admit you werent wrong - something to be said about buddism at least from the buddist view. bg .
From : azwiley1
you have a couple of options imo. realize it is a 4x4 truck with a hemi in it that sounds nice but gets shitty mileage and enjoy it. or dump it and by econo car. it is what it is. roy how dare you suggest that someone trade it in for something this simple! careful the net nanny is reading and may chastize you! ah with buddism i gave the op a option. further while practicing buddism i am never wrong!!!! gbmfg roy .