Parroting for the Left

From : columbotrek

Q: your entire argument is based on one flawed assumption. that hydrocarbons are from fossils and are finite. space exploration has proven that hydrocarbons exist in huge amounts on far away worlds. methane oceans cover saturns moon titian. methane can be changed into more complex forms of hydrocarbons with heat and pressure. resources abundant within the interior of the earth. vast untapped petroleum fields exist under the gulf of mexico and in the arctic as well as off the coast of california. old thought to be tapped out wells are finding new life as they are brought back into production. the only peak oil problem we will have will be for a lack of drilling because of the likes of you. we have been drilling oil for over 100 years now and known sources of hydrocarbons are projected to last 200 years more. its hardly the emergency the communists hope to make the gullible believe in. past chicken littles have declared peak oil several times in the past. i am old enough to remember we were supposed to be out of oil by the early 80s. their is more known oil under ground now than has been pumped in the last 100 years. must have been a lot of primordial soup lakes do doubt to have supplied the multi trillions of barrels mined and yet to be mined. the high prices we see today are the result of all the useful idiots blocking every attempt at increasing domestic production creating false scarcity. the protests you are bemoaning are caused because people are realizing that this false scarcity is a sham and they want this game to be over. enough already wrote the sooner people get over the notion that they can protest finite resources the better. the earth is a limited sphere with a superficial crust relative to its total size. on average the crust is 20 miles thick vs. the planets 7900 mile diameter. under the oceans where the most desperate oil drilling occurs the crust is as thin as 3 miles. oil and other fossil fuels exist only within that crust and were depleted past the halfway peak in america around 1970. once peak production is passed extraction costs rise. there is no getting around it. the issue is when not if a peak will occur. the current high price of oil is likely signaling a peak in global supplies which means life is going to get more difficult and no amount of whining will create easy oil out of nothing. most of the oil we use was formed in two periods 90 and 150 million years ago and the existence of abiotic oil has never been proved. cheap oil created the illusion of resource plenitude by making people misunderstand the difference between capital and income finite vs. renewable energy. the huge scale of modern life was mostly built on finite oil with no assurance that other sources can replace it. after the global peak nature will set the price of oil and its probably happening now. that price includes tar sands bitumen and oil shale which require much higher energy inputs to extract usable liquid. in the case of shale they still havent found a way to break even and most of it wont yield pure gasoline just diesel kerosene etc.. tearing up vast areas of utah colorado and wyoming is not a sane solution. the economy is sick if it must be a constant land- parasite. thanks to mindless population growth of 75 million annually worldwide oil consumption will keep increasing unless radical conservation measures are taken. world oil consumption is about 87 million barrels per day an 11200 acre-foot lake and will easily top 100 million barrels/day as we blindly attempt to support 9 or 10 billion people by mid-century. replacement-level birth control is the best technological solution to resource shortages but people get offended at that notion. they cant think beyond their own wants. keep all of this in mind as you invent conspiracy theories and whine about your right to cheap easy fuel for ego-trucks and powerboats while your truck/suv hauls air most of the year or carries passengers who could live with something smaller or not hoard so much junk in the first place. people themselves are getting fatter in an ironic symbiosis with economic growthism. conservation is still a joke among most americans. they only do it when prices force them to. the ignorant tattooed masses listening to rush limbaugh while trying to one-up their neighbors horsepower are blind to whats really going on with oil. they are obsessed with money this money that but they should be studying geology and biology. many take pride in not knowing the fundamentals of life beyond their immediate needs. stop with that intelekshual stuff and pass me a beer! nature doesnt owe anyone a living and there is no birthright to v-8 engines and easy wages in the transport industry. no amount of sneering at environmental laws will change that fact. more drilling in alaska wont make us independent from anything. its all in the math. the u.s. uses 21 mi

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From : rodan

enough already wrote ..... standard communist harangue against enjoyment of the fruits of ones own labor. a call for cult-like self-denial and a return to a primitive lifestyle. a demand for severe government actions against immoral consumers to bring about the proper distribution of natural resources to the financially deprived masses ...... the only part of his planned solution he hasnt disclosed yet is the forced re-education camps for those who disagree. pol pot would have been proud. rodan. .