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From : mike simmons

Q: joe wrote while a rwd car can be made better in the snow with the help of studded tires and more weight in the rear a fwd is still better and doesnt require modification or pre-planning. what modification or pre-planning you just throw a sandbag or a couple cement blocks in back during the thanksgiving weekend then take them out come easter. if you think that fwd is really better in snow then youre a victim of sales/marketing bullshit over all these years. no just the physics of mass x g. by throwing those cinder blocks into the trunk youre doing exactly what the fwd has already done putting weight over the drive wheels. youre in effect doing a vw by putting weight over the rear drive wheels. didnt say this was a complicated thing to do just something you *need* to do to match what fwd has already done for you. i have owned nothing but rwd cars all of my life but when my furnace failed at the end of a blizzard and i needed to get parts for it my wifes little fwd honda civic got me there where my rwd trans-am couldnt even get out of my drive way and i knew better than to even try. well duh. a ta has absolutely no weight in the rear and the tires are way too wide for snow. the hondas skinny-ass tires cut right through the snow and it obviously had a better weight distribution on the drive wheels. here it is real simple when a fwd cars front wheels lose traction youve lost all control. with a rwd car youve only lost half control. but the traction is lost in rwd before it would be lost in fwd. weight over drive wheels thats as simple as it can get. you will lose control of any car at some speed. usually if youre paying attention the car will tell you when it is approaching that threshold of control loss. some people pay attention some dont. the fact that steering control can be lost when front wheel traction goes away is true for 4x4s as well. doesnt mean rwd is better than 4wd getting through snow or any sort of slick/slippery roadway. for years weve all gotten the hard sell on how great fwd is in bad weather. bullshit. i dont think it is. ive driven both and i think fwd is better on slick roadways. of course the quality of your tires and your driving skill can make fwd/rwd differences insignificant but for the masses fwd will get them farther up a snowy hill than rwd. smh .

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From : chris behrens

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From : ed

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From : mike simmons

if i had a two mile commute i would walk. when i had a five mile commute i road my bike. i have a ten mile commute now and still ride the bicycle in the summer and the motorcycle in the winter. just think heated jacket my first post to this group...hoping for some helpful advice. a couple of other things to consider. with the 10k miles you put on a year a cummins wont be broken in for close to two years. your 2 mile commute does it no favors either. roy .

From : jack

a honda civic is what i used to get the parts to fix my furnace and it did just fine especially for its size. perhaps you just didnt know how to drive it in the snow. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ... bullshit. when either car loses traction on the front wheels youve lost all control. the difference really is that in a rwd car you get off of the gas and hope that engine braking straightens it back out. if not you are sol. with a fwd you can give it a little more gas and if that doesnt work you can still try the rwd method with the emergency brake or a combination of both. gee it looks like the fwd has twice the ability to recover from a skid. for years weve all gotten the hard sell on how great fwd is in bad weather. bullshit. just because you choose not to believe it doesnt make it false. dude based on what youve said you dont have a clue what youre talking about and/or you dont have a clue how to drive in snow. years ago in the 70s i had an opal 1900. cant remember the year want to say about a 69 that i drove up to sun valley one winter. it was a rear wheel drive and the snow didnt slow it down one bit. in the morning it was the only 2 wheel drive car that made it out of the motel parking lot without having to be dug out. no chains btw at the same time i owned a 68 firebird convertible with wide tires that wouldnt even move in an inch of snow. i would have to say there are many factors that determine whether a car is a good snow vehicle or not. front or rear wheel drive is not the determining factor by any means. bill lol! and how many front wheel drive cars were in the lot at the time in the 70s i would say about none. if rear wheel drive vehicles are so capable in the snow why was yours the only one to get out all things being equal a front wheel drive vehicle will have superior performance in the snow period. i have also owned a 78 honda civic that wasnt worth a damn in the snow. too light i would have to say. bill .